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r/K Selection Theory, Why Conservative and Liberal Values Are In Our Genes
I recently just discovered this theory and I'm still coming to terms with the idea.

It describes mating strategies and how society eventually fall into an r or K paradigm. An oscillating struggle between the genes. Through a YouTube philosopher (Stefan Molyneux: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N3FF_3KvU), I found an interesting blog that discusses this theory like a ROK article would. I hope you find it as interesting and illuminating as I have. The video I posted is equally as fascinating.

http://www.koanicsoul.com/blog/a-critiqu...on-theory/

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** Intro of the r vs. K concept

r/K selection theory is an incredibly powerful paradigm, capable of flaying a liberal’s mind faster than any other concept on the planet.

r stands for reproductive focus – the rabbit strategy of pumping out lots of cheap offspring and fucking whatever moves. It’s a response to overwhelming predation.

K stands for competitive focus – the wolf strategy of mating for life and raising pups together, teaching them to hunt and integrate socially with the pack. It’s a response to selective pressure for individual excellence.

** A racist example

Since I’m a straight to the point kind of guy, I’ll start with the most racist example possible.

Negro Sub-Saharan Africa is r-selective. Selection pressures overwhelm individual merit, taking random individuals and population swathes. Fecundity rapidly repopulates to carrying capacity. A farmer who attempts to build or save will be attacked by his neighbors because he threatens their long-term r investment.

White glacial Europe was K-selective. The smart survived. The dumb froze or starved. Fecundity focused on stable, slow growth. Hence, Neanderthal man evolved the capacity for thought.

Confused? Keep this glossary in mind for future reference throughout this post:

r = fecundity selection = liberal = Sapiens = extrovert
K = competitive selection = conservative = Neanderthal = introvert

Also, this entire post is written in reaction to the free content written by Anonymous Conservative at http://www.anonymousconservative.com. If you’re unable to access his site, and you get a “missing index file” error, try using this proxy: http://www.freewebproxy.asia.

** Mechanisms of r/K expression shifts in society

There are three primary mechanisms by which the ratio of r/K expression shifts in a society:

1. Environmental cues alter psychology and biology during childhood development
2. Changes in the population’s underlying genetic ratio
3. Changes in social promotion

Together, these produce the cycle of history, in which hardship creates a superior K selected group, which conquers, prospers, becomes r-selected, and collapses.

r/K theory also fully explains the American political bipolar spectrum of left-liberal vs. right-conservative. However, the story is a little more complex, because America is a decadent empire in decline, so both sides are mostly r.

Let’s start by talking about some of the simpler implications of r/K theory first, before we tackle hairy topics like contemporary America.

** Sex

Simple enough for ya?

*** Homosexuality is a dishonorable mating strategy

In one of the pdfs, AC (Anonymous Conservative) describes the complex and chivalrous mating combat of the Australian Giant Cuttlefish. A subset of males cheat at this competition, adopting the coloration and appearance of a female in order to skip the combat, mate quickly, and sneak away.

This example finally provides an evolutionary justification for homosexuality. Mimicking a female gives the Anticompetitive cuttlefish access to females, which he would otherwise never acquire. Likewise, almost all human fags are bisexual, and many men become gay only after failing with women. Being gay permits the occasional “experimental” bang with a girlfriend. Hence the K male’s aversion to fags and fag hags. To quote:

“the Anticompetitor is designed to avoid engaging in these competitions, while still seeking advantage within the competitive environment through violations of the rules of honor which govern the competition.”

*** Hatred for liberals is genetic

These quotes are all coming from AC’s website:

“…Competitors who evolved to revile those who violated the Competitive strategy. These groups would easily dominate such a group competition. Individuals that were imbued with a fierce contempt for cowardice, a hatred for selfishness, and aversions towards such behaviors as interference in free competitions between men, opportunistic advantage taking, rule breaking, sexual sneaking and disloyalty to the group would form, and function within, successful groups unusually well.”

In other words, homophobia is not latent homosexuality, it is a rational genetic strategy. As is hating hippies.

*** Feminism is r-type

“In r-type populations, females exhibit more male traits, such as increased size, aggression, and competitiveness. In this milieu, this is an effective aspect of an r-strategy, as r-females need to both provide for their offspring, and fend off threats, due to male abandonment.

It is interesting that modern feminism, so often associated with the left, exhibits a denigrating view of the rewards offered by offspring rearing, an embrace of sexual liberation for women (ie promiscuity), a denigrating view of men which would facilitate short-term mating relationships, as well as an increased drive to compete aggressively alongside males, in traditionally male endeavors.”

Likewise, r-type males will become more effeminate.

** A deeper look at r-selected psychology and childhood development

Next let’s look at those twisted little minds.

*** Liberalism is brain damage

“Amygdala damage in monkies produces total loss of threat aversion, hyper-sexuality with inappropriate partners, and diminished child rearing investment.” (All of which are r-type strategies.)

*** An unstable childhood makes for a liberal adult

“an Anticompetitor is likely to be an individual who has received cues in childhood indicating that as an adult, they will prove uncompetitive with Competitor peers.”

Whereas, if the environment was more hospitable,

“Individuals would then adopt a psychology geared towards an adherance to social rules, diminished personal selfishness, monogamy, formation of stronger, more loyal pair bonds between mates (itself an exhibition of competitive intent), and they would actually delay the onset of puberty, possibly in an effort to optimally increase maturity and ability prior to competing for a mate”

So a liberal is someone who,

“…during the earliest years of an individual’s life, would detect cues within their environment that survival was going to prove difficult, and their life would likely be short and harsh. These individuals would develop a psychology geared towards opportunistic advantage taking, rule breaking, promiscuity, depersonalization of mates, and they would also enter puberty earlier. It was proposed that the adoption of this psychological and biochemical path was an attempt to simply mate and reproduce as quickly as possible, with as little investment in childrearing as possible”

In other words, a born loser.

Danger sign

*** Younger brothers tend to be more r-type

The older brother or sister dominates him in childhood, signaling that he will be outcompeted.

Thus, the first child should be a son to maximize K.

(Take that, little bro.)

*** Liberals are fattie-fucking losers.

A summary of the liberal mind:

“One strategy will pessimistically avoid the fear of a competition that they feel destined to lose, while mating desperately with any mate available.”

*** Liberals cannot face the world without government protection.

“What is described in the paper is a desire to restrict individual actions through rules, so as to eliminate uncertainty in interpersonal outcomes.”

T. Gondii exacerbates this – cat ownership. Ouch.

*** Meat eating is conservative, vegetarianism is liberal

Herding or hunting are high skill, high investment competitive activities for apex predators. Foraging isn’t. The brain responds to the diet by shifting in either direction. Neanderthals were herders; Sapiens foragers.

*** “Watership Down” understands liberalism perfectly

If you’ve read “Watership Down”, you’ll remember the episode of the barrow of the snare. The protagonists were instantly welcomed, though they were outsiders. The vivid sickness of the barrow’s mad poet. The wrongness and easy sex of the place – all driven by overwhelming predation. The horror of the natives when the snare was defeated – liberals don’t want to win.

For a perfect example of the sickness of our contemporary poets, see the music video “The Wall” by Pink Floyd. He wallows in his agonized pleasure as his one night stand bangs another r-type. He despises and caricatures fascist K values. He’s obsessed with the mass warrior culling of WWI, and with creating a socialist society, and with rebelling against social rules. A perfect journey through a crippled and pathetic psyche.

*** The Neanderthal female

If all that was too depressing, here’s a lighter note. Once upon a time, women judged a man for his chivalric grace in defeat, as much as his prowess in victory. With the return of K-selection, that time will come again.

“a Competitor male’s willingness to shoulder the risk of failure in competition likely arose as a sacrifice, wisely demanded by the females looking to maximize their own competitive advantage.”

** Who’s more warlike: K’s or r’s?

K’s get a bad rap because they’re warriors. But warriors do less fighting than cowards, at the end of the day. Here’s why.

*** The pyschopathic leader problem of r-societies

One of the main reason r societies tend to commit so much government violence is that they are dominated by psychopaths. These psychopaths must stay in power, despite ruling an incompetent population that demands perpetual abundance. The solution is always to kill a bunch of people.

AC writes of Communism/Socialism/Marxism:

“…every such movement has its leaders chosen by individuals with deficient amygdalae, who cannot see the threat until it confronts them openly, and are programmed to appease any such threat once it is perceived.”

Hello, Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot/ *snort* Kim Il Jong.

*** K’s are not the war party

AC (AnonymousConservative) identifies K’s as the War Party. This is not quite correct. K’s are not AFRAID of war. r’s are. However, r’s will tend to engage in far more war than K’s. This is because K’s are fundamentally isolationist, while r’s are fundamentally universalist.

When you combine r’s universalism, tendency to promote predatorial leaders, and general incompetence, you get a recipe for psychopaths misdirecting attention from home misrule by blaming and demonizing the Other and engaging in endless wars of aggression or internal democide.

The same pattern simply does not occur in K-dominated societies. A rational K is unlikely to engage in wars of aggression unless he possesses an overwhelming military advantage that renders cost negligible. An r will engage in wars regardless of cost. And a K will never commit democide because it violates chivalry and sanctity of life, while an r values neither.

The classic example of a supposed K-driven war is the 4th Reich’s blitzkreig, eventual overreach and collapse. One could also point to the Napoleonic wars. However, these were actually patinas of K-rhetoric painted over heavily r-driven societies. Both were broken, weak, heavily socialist, and needed misdirection to permit the psychopaths at the top to maintain power over the r masses. For comparison, the Soviet Union was far bloodier, despite employing a purely r rhetoric.

More accurate examples of K driven wars would be European colonization of the territories of the low-IQ races, and the Mongol conquest of Asia. These were rationally justified wars supported by the rhetoric of competitive superiority. Likewise, we can see in Sparta a strong K-selective pattern, while Athens in its fall was seduced to stupidity by r dynamics which led to the rise of a foolish and predatory leadership.

The mainstream conservative movement in America employs a mixed r- and K-rhetoric to justify a mostly r platform, that is only K by comparison to the American leftist movement, which employs purely r-rhetoric to justify a more extreme version of the same thing. Contemporary America does not have a mainstream K movement, because it is a decadent empire.

*** Liberals practice total war, Neanderthals practice chivalry

Amongst themselves, K’s engage in ritual limited combat and abide by the results without envy, to permit the fittest to breed.

Liberals are programmed to break such rules. Thus their wars are total, and they frequently practice both genocide and democide on unspeakable scales.

r’s do not value life, since it is easily replaceable by promiscuous breeding. K’s value life, since they want to keep their group strong to defeat other groups.

The exception – K’s are willing to genocide inferior populations, as in colonialism and the Mongol hordes. r’s are psychologically horrified by genocide for inferiority’s sake (except when under the extreme duress characterized by modern socialist fascism), but will eagerly genocide in the name of righteousness, fairness, equality, etc.

*** Darwin was right, Dickens was wrong

“Conservatism will produce a society in which there will be a certain constant, low level of discomfort among those who lack ability, effort and determination. Those who fail to succeed will receive little help from the government, and will be forced to endure privation, while exerting themselves mightily.”

This is the only effective form of eugenic birth control – the constant low-grade stress of privation. Let the poor reproduce until they cannot stand the scarcity any longer.

The alternative?

“By contrast, Liberalism will tend to produce periods devoid of discomfort, as they redistribute resources to the more r-type psychologies, and other less successful individuals within the society. However, as the r-type individuals increase in number, you will see a gradual reduction of the population’s abilities, and a concomitant diminution in production. If history is a guide, this will produce a sudden collapse of the society, and sudden massive increase in discomfort for all. Thus where Conservatism would produce a small level of constant discomfort, Liberalism will produce alternating waves of greater comfort, and enormous misery.”

This is the true intended purpose of the Federal Reserve – to create a perpetual “period devoid of discomfort,” while preventing “a sudden collapse.”

Thus, r domination = guaranteed collapse, absent heavy predation. Whereas K domination = guaranteed stable growth.

“In short, Reagan was right. There is no left or right, there really is only an up or down. One strategy promotes pro-socialty, (K-type) morality, success, and Darwinian advancement, through simply granting men freedom. While a complementary ideology supports anti-sociality, (r-type) immorality, failure, and Darwinian devolution, through the imposition of uniform government oppression.”

And of course, instability and collapse guarantee war.

** How genetic shifts in r/K ratio work

So how fast can a population shift its genetic ratio of r vs K genes?

*** Pro-K genetic shifts in r/K ratio happen slowly

AC assume that a society can shift its genetic r/K ratio rapidly. I disagree. While it’s possible that major events like wars or class purges can decimate the K population, the r population is essentially ineradicable.

In fact, the only way to move the needle on r is to subject an insular breeding population to several hundred years of intense selection, ala the Ashkenazim.

Why? Because the population ratio is not 50/50. It’s 80/20, favoring r. And since K doesn’t do fecundity blooms, this means that it’s possible to LOSE K quickly, but not possible to GAIN it quickly.

So aside from genocide-level events and the rare accidental evolutionary hothouse, we need a different explanation for the shifts in societal tenor that occur so regularly throughout history.

We can arguably see permanent K-loss in many previously successful empires that seemingly exhaust themselves and sink into oblivion, never reviving, but instead being absorbed by other, more vigorous peoples. However, this explanation only applies to a small percentage of cases.

The major explanation for the “phases of empire” that Sir John Glubb has so astutely expounded, is not changes in genetic r/K ratio, but changes in social promotion. Early rising empires promote K’s to power and influence; late decadent ones promote r’s.

*** r societies never fully eliminate K’s

Even with the r’s in charge, things rarely get bad enough that the K’s can’t reproduce. r’s mostly fight amongst themselves – or prey on each other. Thus the genetic population ratio remains stable at around 80/20.

** How to permanently defeat the r’s

Getting pretty damn tired of the r’s by now? Me too. So how do we get rid of those pesky cock-a-roaches?

*** Space might be the solution

If humanity ever manages to GET to space, we might enter a phase of permanently K-driven evolution. Space is a lot like glacial Europe – hostile to life.

How many think Obama is going to put a man on Mars?

Better start looking for plan B.

*** r’s are better at internal competition in large groups

The problem is that r’s have one natural superiority over K’s – a greater aptitude for navigating large dynamic social groupings. Thus, the more a society leaves environmental K pressure behind, the greater the probability that the r’s will take over.

*** K’s can neutralize r’s by becoming the Distant Other

r’s are psychological ninjas when it comes to defeating the Near Other, who does not detect the threat. But they are hardwired to appease the Distant Other.

When K’s forcefully assert their absolute distinctness from r’s, and begin to mercilessly ostracize and antagonize them, the r’s will flip to appeasement.

The best argument against Liberalism is that Neanderthals are a separate species. By underlining our implacable enmity and difference, we become sympathetic and non-threatening.

Makes no sense? Well, that just means your amygdala is working.

Hence the name of this post – “Death to the Extroverts.”

I’m dead serious. If it worked for the Black Panthers, it can work for us.
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I'm more impressed/intrigued by his argument for the origin of cognitive dissonance.

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Sorry, I was listening to another one of his podcasts. Disregard my previous comment.

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Anonymous Conservative's ground-breaking book on r/K selection is available for free download today, get it here.

It's hard to overstate the importance of this theory, which explains nearly all of the social changes we've observed in the west over the past century or so. This excerpt summarizing the r-selected psychology perfectly encapsulates the mindset of today's typical liberal/SJW:

Quote:Of greatest import to our treatise here, r-selected organisms will exhibit a psychology that is programmed with five primary traits. They will be driven to avoid all competitions and conflicts, and to be as comfortable as possible within an environment devoid of any intra-species competitive stresses. They will be programmed to mate promiscuously, as early in life as possible, as often as possible, and with as many mates as possible. The r- psychology will be programmed to embrace low-investment child-rearing, such as single parenting, and lack concern for the competitiveness of the children reared under such schemes. Such a psychology will also exhibit a simultaneous tolerance for early sexualization of offspring. Finally, it will also exhibit a reduced perception of in-group and out-group, as well as a reduced perception of any conflict between such groups.

-Conservative, Anonymous (2013-07-06). The Evolutionary Psychology Behind Politics: How Conservatism and Liberalism Evolved Within Humans (Kindle Locations 475-480). Federalist Publications. Kindle Edition.
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I'm a member of Stefan's message board, and I don't think he (or very many men) grasp the modern version of r/K.

Specifically, sexuality is no longer tied to reproduction because of birth control. I cannot emphasize how important this is, and how ill-informed peoples' conclusions become when they don't know this!

There are now four possibilities instead of two:

(1) r-sexual and r-reproductive: Examples: poor American ghettos and trailer-parks. Characteristics: Anti-intellectual, extremely impulsive, teenage mothers, promiscuity, women age frightfully quickly and become government-dependents, male shiftlessness and lack of ambition.

(2) r-sexual and K-reproductive: Examples: White middle-class and upper-class neighborhoods. Characteristics: Somewhat-intellectual, but constantly keep scientific-knowledge of female sexual behavior suppressed; "alpha fucks beta bucks"; women go to college and ride the carousel fully expecting a beta husband to marry her two days before she hits the wall; low birth rates; males work hard to maintain the economic infrastructure but they're beaten down and don't self-improve, Non-Violent (except through mob rule and hashtag activism).

(3) K-sexual and K-reproductive: Examples: religious theocracies. Characteristics: Anti-intellectual, Anti-educational, Anti-homosexual, Anti-feminist, Anti-women-working, Violent (because not many men in these cultures have access to females).

(4) K-sexual and r-reproductive: Examples: None exist, because the technology doesn't yet exist to support this environment. But think Gattaca, 1984, Brave New World and/or Ender's Game, wherein all members are genetically-selected for rather than allowing individuals to freely reproduce. (Yes, you can bang whomever you want in these societies, but you cannot reproduce without the intervention of the State.)

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The ultimate secret of the modern world is that its women embrace r-sexuality when they feel like it, followed by K-reproduction when they feel like it. Modern women don't think long-term, don't naturally empathize with the modern man's hopes and dreams, and don't feel particularly loyal to their own culture.

And the only way for a man to compete in an r-sexual, K-reproductive culture is to maximize his ability to induce hypergamous desires. He must work out. He must dress well. He must have tight game. He must have a great sense of humor. He must, must, must.

Ironically, the majority of the members of Stefan's board are aware of a woman's hypergamous desires, but they envision "the great collapse" that finally "puts women back into their rightful place" or "finally makes women behave better".

But they have it all wrong. (1) The great collapse will not put women back into their place; it'll send the world into constant warfare which Stefan's board members are in no position to fight. (2) To maximize your own ability to trigger a woman's hypergamous desires is to make yourself happy!

There's no "selling out". There's no "dishonesty and manipulation". There's no "putting women on a pedestal". It's guaranteed happiness, because you get the direct benefit of your self-improvement and any woman who shares in it does so at your invitation.

Our modern society is the best that has ever been, but the majority of men don't take advantage of it. Worse, they secretly long for it to be destroyed.
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(06-30-2015 12:37 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  Our modern society is the best that has ever been, but the majority of men don't take advantage of it. Worse, they secretly long for it to be destroyed.

Good post, but that statement is too simplistic. Freedom is being eroded, family formation is almost in ruins, women have become married to the state, jobs are much harder to get than they were 50 years ago. A collapse is coming whether we want it to or not. No amount of hard working men can please the current system, we'll just be paying into an even more decadent, war mongering system.

There is also no guarantee for the vast majority of men who don't know game. They can work hard, get married and then have it all taken away by a bitter woman
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(06-30-2015 11:10 PM)zombiejimmorrison Wrote:  
(06-30-2015 12:37 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  Our modern society is the best that has ever been, but the majority of men don't take advantage of it. Worse, they secretly long for it to be destroyed.

Good post, but that statement is too simplistic. Freedom is being eroded, family formation is almost in ruins, women have become married to the state, jobs are much harder to get than they were 50 years ago. A collapse is coming whether we want it to or not. No amount of hard working men can please the current system, we'll just be paying into an even more decadent, war mongering system.

There is also no guarantee for the vast majority of men who don't know game. They can work hard, get married and then have it all taken away by a bitter woman


I agree with you, but I think women get bitter because their husbands have sucked for a very long time. I oppose the welfare state and the erosion of freedoms just like you do, but I'd trust Roosh to get married and not have his wife get all bitter on him.

Heartiste argued that the true surplus is of lazy bitter males, and I agree with him.

If anyone disagrees with me, I'm glad to hear counter-arguments - especially because I know that the men on this forum are both civil and passionate in their rebuttals.
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(06-30-2015 11:53 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  I agree with you, but I think women get bitter because their husbands have sucked for a very long time. I oppose the welfare state and the erosion of freedoms just like you do, but I'd trust Roosh to get married and not have his wife get all bitter on him.

Heartiste argued that the true surplus is of lazy bitter males, and I agree with him.

If anyone disagrees with me, I'm glad to hear counter-arguments - especially because I know that the men on this forum are both civil and passionate in their rebuttals.

If you go back 50 years ago, women had bad husbands but they weren't divorcing them in droves. As to men being lazy, most of the cushy jobs are dominated by women, most welfare, healthcare is consumed by women but they pay less into the system and live longer than men on average.

http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/23/women-s...alth-care/

Anyone who is aware of game and has practiced game for 1 year successfully is immune to bitter women. You can successfully game women into giving you money, that's how effective game is, it completely reverses the mainstream idea of relationships.

A lot of bitter lazy males do exist, but they're not the ones women are pining after, the natural alphas are the ones that women sleep with, have kids with and then get everyone else to pay for them or marry a beta. Alpha widows abound, even if they don't have kids. The media, government, society in general are telling men the exact opposite of what is true. You need to be a little inquisitive or even fucked by the system to actually want to change.

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As to your main point about their being too many bitter males? Yes, there are a lot of them. There are certainly too many in the minds of hot chicks, but we have an unsustainable debt laden empire that's about to collapse and the disincentives that have been put on the average dude is killing America. If you don't have buy in from the average guy, your civilization is going to collapse or get conquered.

I disagree with you that K's are "anti-intellecutual". Anti-intellectual?

I don't think you understand the r/k theory. K's are from glacial Europe where the smart i.e. intellectual survived whereas the r's are from nearer to the equator where resource savers were murdered and r's survived.


I am a very K selected individual. I am tall, good looking, northern European, and smart. Liberals instinctively hate me. Women who are older, bad looking, and have been burnt by alphas instinctively treat me poorly, but my girlfriends and girls I hook up with are very attractive. I have long dryspells though.

K people are not "anti-intellectual". You are falling for the psuedo-intellectual hipster bullshit that derp derp right wing extremists are dumb derp derp routinely try to pass off as humor as they laugh insecurely as Jon Stewart takes Rand Paul out of context in an attempt to smear the one man with any shred of integrity left in the US Senate. Just an example.
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There are many slight variations of the r/K selection theme.

Desire is always r-selection, while humans overall are k-selected overwhelmingly. Even dogs are highly k-selected.

But as I said there are multiple definitions.

In terms of seduction it always pays to be r-selected as lover vs k-selected as provider.

R-selection wardrobe & behavior is certainly leading to tingles and fast sex, while k-selection makes a good impression in front of her parents, but is counterproductive for sexual strategy.

The concept in itself is real, but we have to recognize that it may mean a few different things to other people.
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I bet you guys have no idea what r/K selection actually means in biology.

Isn't Jim Morrison the definition of r-selected?
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This theory is old; goes back to evolutionary biology of the 1970's but I think it's overall premise is sound and worth exploring.

The few problems I have with the r/K theory is that it fails to account for how r's become K's and vice versa. It makes it sound like r's and K's only come from their own fellow r's and K's, or that only the environment can produce r's and K's. This ignores the transformative effects of human technology.

It is totally possible for K's to be consumed by r's. However, the r's will then consume each other and the r's who survive the dark ages become the next K's. When the K's reproduce more than their society and level of technology can handle, the children become the next batch of r's ready to listen to the next dictator for their salvation.

Seems to be a constant pattern of human history.

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RE: r/K Selection Theory, Why Conservative and Liberal Values Are In Our Genes
From the Molyneux video I got the impression that the human genome possesses coding for both evolutionary strategies, and childhood environmental triggers set off epigenetic flags to encourage either r or K behavior in individuals. There may be a difference in the amount of r or K genes based on Neanderthal DNA or just basic speciation among humans, but when this gets into a "haw haw look at black people they're a prey species" argument, it's ignoring all those tribes in Africa that don't live with low-hanging fruit to feed on, like the bushmen. Realistically any subgroup of humanity that hasn't been wiped out by now would need the genes to adapt to either an r or K environment.
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