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(05-15-2019 11:15 AM)giama Wrote:  drunk anglo girls cry rape. be careful with that a lot of guys in prison for that. the sloppy drunk white girls arent high quality in London anyway. high quality women carry them self like ladies and know there limit.

99.9% of hook ups happen when the girls are tipsy / drunk, yet only idiots go to jail. Don't think your statement makes much sense.
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@ sarcofago

As you wish, i just personally wouldn't be sexual with a drunk english white woman. Everyones circumstances are different.

Drunk sloppy english women can stitch you up seen it happen to people, not something i would play with but to each his own.

In England, the only women that i see getting sloppy drunk are white women. They have zero accountability. They will throw you under the bus to save there embarrassment. Check this story out for example.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09...ed-accept/

Theres a certain physchology and system that would make a woman feel comfortable doing this.


Theres a big difference between being tipsy and being sloppy drunk, the sloppy drunk ones are the ones that are HIGH RISK IMO.

I get what you mean about drunk/tipsy make outs. I guess its worth me pointing out that im black and black people dont have the same relationship with alcohol that white people do. The saying white girl/boy wasted springs to mind. So i guess culturally that would explain why i guard against it. Then add the combination of sober black man and drunk white woman that dont look good in front of a judge/jury
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Giama, I agree totally

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@Giama: don’t feed the troll.

Regarding the wasted chicks, I never touch them, I know some guys target them in priority as they are easier but to me there is no glory in that, I like seducing a woman who is perfectly aware of what she’s doing and who is simply surrendering to my charm, this seduction is important to me.
Plus I also like the girls who know how to carry themselves, a tipsy woman can be very charming but a wasted dirty one who pees and shits in the streets while still holding a bottle of booze and singing is one of the biggest turn offs I can think about....but yeah, to each his own.
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(05-18-2019 02:39 AM)Lino Wrote:  @Giama: don’t feed the troll.

Regarding the wasted chicks, I never touch them, I know some guys target them in priority as they are easier but to me there is no glory in that, I like seducing a woman who is perfectly aware of what she’s doing and who is simply surrendering to my charm, this seduction is important to me.
Plus I also like the girls who know how to carry themselves, a tipsy woman can be very charming but a wasted dirty one who pees and shits in the streets while still holding a bottle of booze and singing is one of the biggest turn offs I can think about....but yeah, to each his own.

Why so upset? Because you didn't do well in the UK, where you rent an expensive flat in London (as you said) and chased by the police for harassment but then you could not afford paying 1600 euros in Central Paris? That's a paradox. OK, I get it, you are French with origin from North Africa and hate Anglophones, especially British and Americans, and local white people. That makes more sense...

What I post here is solid and backed up by evidence.

Regarding the sweet, traditional girl stereotype you talk about, good luck with that, is like trying to find a dinosaur..
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(05-18-2019 06:57 AM)sarcofago Wrote:  
(05-18-2019 02:39 AM)Lino Wrote:  @Giama: don’t feed the troll.

Regarding the wasted chicks, I never touch them, I know some guys target them in priority as they are easier but to me there is no glory in that, I like seducing a woman who is perfectly aware of what she’s doing and who is simply surrendering to my charm, this seduction is important to me.
Plus I also like the girls who know how to carry themselves, a tipsy woman can be very charming but a wasted dirty one who pees and shits in the streets while still holding a bottle of booze and singing is one of the biggest turn offs I can think about....but yeah, to each his own.

Why so upset? Because you didn't do well in the UK, where you rent an expensive flat in London (as you said) and chased by the police for harassment but then you could not afford paying 1600 euros in Central Paris? That's a paradox. OK, I get it, you are French with origin from North Africa and hate Anglophones, especially British and Americans, and local white people. That makes more sense...

What I post here is solid and backed up by evidence.

Regarding the sweet, traditional girl stereotype you talk about, good luck with that, is like trying to find a dinosaur..
I am not upset at all and only hate idiots, it’s not my fault if you’re stupid and constantly come sniff my ass and react to all my posts. You’re like these obsessed chicks who constantly run after me to get my cock.

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Personally I would avoid London unless you are planning on staying here for 2/3 years in order to make some progress with your career.

There has been a lot of gentrification over the years since I was young but ultimately large parts of the city still resemble ghettos and I would never consider raising a kid here. The teenagers carry knives and really don't care who they stab, there are no rules or boundaries for them. This creates an air of menace which ironically a lot of the transient well earning professionals fail to pick up on until they are robbed themselves or can't get home from work at night because there is a large crime scene blocking their road after somebody has been brutally maimed or killed.

Properties are extremely expensive, so unless you are on over £50K a year, expect to be flatsharing with strangers. Even people in the past that I know of, who are high figure salaries, still end up house sharing because they can't justify throwing the money away on renting a studio. Which raises issues in itself as a large chunk of the city's population have mental health issues. So there is a high probability that you will be sharing a house with someone who is unstable.
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I used to live in Kentish Town. Weird place. Half yuppie middle class, half crime scene

When I lived in London boots on the ground I felt much safer than simply reading about it on the news outside in. I genuinely think white middle class professionals are orders of magnitude safer than black teenagers in council blocks
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As a middle class yuppie you’re unlikely to be the victims of knife crime, most likely act of crime against you is possibly a mugging if you look an easy target, I would imagine most guys using this forum should be street smart enough for this to be highly unlikely, I’ve never had an issue in London although have only lived there a year.
As an Englishman I’m always disappointed how everyone goes to London and fails to realise there’s life beyond Clapham junction, I believe the south west has a lot to offer depending on what you’re after, it’s one of the few places which hasn’t bowed to pc culture and represents traditional English culture.
I currently live in Exeter a small city in Devon, things I love about it are accessibility to the countryside, I can be in Dartmoor National Park within 10 minutes drive and beaches close by too, if you’re into surfing then Cornwall has many great spots in beautiful towns and villages, great historic spots such as stone henge and the Jurassic coast, the home of cider and lots of great sports.
As far as females go ye it’s not Colombia but there’s more to life than women and I think a lot of yanks who want to explore their roots will like it.
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(05-17-2019 02:42 AM)Elmore Wrote:  
(05-16-2019 01:44 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 04:42 PM)Elmore Wrote:  Absolute state of the place these days... Man detained and fined 90 pounds for covering his face whilst walking past a Facial Id scheme in London. Suffice to say the same treatment isn't dished out to the countless bhurka clad muslims... Fucking disgusting what UK's become.

https://twitter.com/JamieJBartlett/statu...5090361344

Can you elaborate on what a facial ID scheme is for us non brits? It sounds positively Orwellian.

If you follow the link it contains video of it. In this instance a surveilance van with cameras mounted that videos passersby, presumably logging their faces and looking for matches with suspects. Taken at base level you might think, well that's not such a bad thing, but do they log non offenders and keep that data? I'd be sure they do. So if for whatever reason they looked at you, they might be able to pull up your face, and then look for matches in the last six months, and have your movements and images in front of them.

Wow.


And who voted for that?
Has there been any civil liberties pushback?
Is this only done in gnag conflict areas of cities or countrywide?

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RE: The United Kingdom really sucks?
I've had a terrible time in London over and over again in terms of quality of life.

Yeah, if you have $500-$1,000 to blow in a weekend and want to get wrecked, it's great...but you could have 3x the experience in most other countries for the same price. What about the UK really interests you?

That being said, British women are foul. Genetically, they lack any real semblance of beauty. Fortunately, it's diverse and you can find girls from other countries.

Everything is expensive as shit, wages are generally lower than in the USA. Unless you have high income skills, I see no reason to go there for working.

Weather is bad.

London is dangerous. Crime rates higher than most of USA.

Visa policies with the USA are pretty awful. Many, many people I know have actually been refused entry when they told the redneck retard border police they were staying for more than a week or so under suspicion of "working."

Lastly, the multicultural shitstorm has soaked London. It's crawling with refugees.

0/10 would not bang London.
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Sounds awful

(05-18-2019 11:02 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  Personally I would avoid London unless you are planning on staying here for 2/3 years in order to make some progress with your career.

There has been a lot of gentrification over the years since I was young but ultimately large parts of the city still resemble ghettos and I would never consider raising a kid here. The teenagers carry knives and really don't care who they stab, there are no rules or boundaries for them. This creates an air of menace which ironically a lot of the transient well earning professionals fail to pick up on until they are robbed themselves or can't get home from work at night because there is a large crime scene blocking their road after somebody has been brutally maimed or killed.

Properties are extremely expensive, so unless you are on over £50K a year, expect to be flatsharing with strangers. Even people in the past that I know of, who are high figure salaries, still end up house sharing because they can't justify throwing the money away on renting a studio. Which raises issues in itself as a large chunk of the city's population have mental health issues. So there is a high probability that you will be sharing a house with someone who is unstable.
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(05-17-2019 09:14 AM)sarcofago Wrote:  
(05-15-2019 11:15 AM)giama Wrote:  drunk anglo girls cry rape. be careful with that a lot of guys in prison for that. the sloppy drunk white girls arent high quality in London anyway. high quality women carry them self like ladies and know there limit.

99.9% of hook ups happen when the girls are tipsy / drunk, yet only idiots go to jail. Don't think your statement makes much sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CybGo6hALVo

(sorry, nothing to do with UK, but 'only idiots'?)
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I'd say that if you want to have a life, that is to say, live in your own flat in a half decent area, dine out, go to the theatre, foreign holidays, etc., then £50k won't even come close - think twice that.
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(05-20-2019 07:26 PM)ArloDash Wrote:  I've had a terrible time in London over and over again in terms of quality of life.

Yeah, if you have $500-$1,000 to blow in a weekend and want to get wrecked, it's great...but you could have 3x the experience in most other countries for the same price. What about the UK really interests you?

That being said, British women are foul. Genetically, they lack any real semblance of beauty. Fortunately, it's diverse and you can find girls from other countries.

Everything is expensive as shit, wages are generally lower than in the USA. Unless you have high income skills, I see no reason to go there for working.

Weather is bad.

London is dangerous. Crime rates higher than most of USA.

Visa policies with the USA are pretty awful. Many, many people I know have actually been refused entry when they told the redneck retard border police they were staying for more than a week or so under suspicion of "working."

Lastly, the multicultural shitstorm has soaked London. It's crawling with refugees.

0/10 would not bang London.

This is incorrect.

London is alot safer than most cities in America.

There is a reason why so many rich people in America live in gated communities.

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(05-21-2019 04:04 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ...
This is incorrect.

London is alot safer than most cities in America.

There is a reason why so many rich people in America live in gated communities.

True, but for precisely that reason one feels the aggression and hostility all more palpably on the streets.

In the UK, the lumpenprole freely mix with the bourgeoisie, so the filthy chavs and knackers can physically intimidate whomever they desire.

Since America is ghettoised, it efficiently conceals the reality of its reprehensible inequality; for those who can afford it.
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When was the last time they had a mass shooting in the UK?

Most of London, is safe except for a few shitty areas.

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London has never really interested me outside of a short holiday. Seems a lot like a tourist hellhole like many capital cities. Unless you're making bank I don't see the allure. Like someone said, I assume most people live in flatshares because of how outrageously expensive it is and that's one thing I wouldn't like to endure for months or years. The cost of living frightens me more than the perceived crime or very real immigration.

What about Glasgow or Belfast? I know people say Scottish women are grim and that's probably true in many cases, but what about Irish? I'm considering both cities for at least a year before EU nationals aren't able to be (TM's words) queue jumpers post-Brexit. I would be working that time so obviously that has an impact. In my case I'm Ameriburger by birth but I have an EU passport. I would like to think or hope I would encounter less hostility, if any.
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(05-21-2019 10:58 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  When was the last time they had a mass shooting in the UK?

Most of London, is safe except for a few shitty areas.

Sorry buddy, respectfully, I can't agree with that.

I think a lot depends on one's job and interaction with the city.

My job and my experiences were like a murder trail through various parts of London.

I'll accept that London has always been a bit rough as a capital /world city but nothing compared to Manila, Washington-as-was, St Louis, LA, Johannesburg, Rio etc. etc.

Probably the gap in violence between London and those cities is still there.

After the London Riots - riots that I had the privilege of being present in - a US gang specialist said that in comparison to the States.. London gangs were pretty soft and disorganised.

The issue is the change in just a few years.

Black policewomen I knew left Hackney after they joined. They couldn't imagine living there once they saw the change that was going on. They'd been happy to lead pretty low key lower middle class lives leading up to the Change.

I'd struggle to think of areas in Zones 1, 2 and 3 that are untouched by threat, gangs and violence.

I lived on a street in Ealing West London that had nice houses and Range Rovers but unfortunately I knew the new-arrival Afghan and his little shop that ran that street for all the basement dwellers. Vicious and violent man that everyone feared.
The yummy mummies and the bankers wouldnthave known who he was.
Every street has its re-housed people.
police coming into my building after the Polish prostitute ring in operation. Property Management company sent round their new-arrival Indian janitor to look into it but of course the Polish are paying him off and he's then their snitch.
Bulgarian drug dealer threatening me with a machete on the stairs.
Bar owners threatening me because I was new and they thought I was a dealer moving on their turf.
All I'd done was move into a building.
Stand off between my buddy and I and some postcode gang scrotes who tried to threaten us of an evening. Tried to surround us on a main fucking road with cars going past. Tabitha and ma-ma getting into their land cruiser down the road.. Off to piano lessons.
We backtracked to our van and got axes out. They shat themselves and left.
Sure, in America we probably would have been shot in an exchange like that.

But back in the 90's there might have been the murder mile and the Yardies but most of London wasn't like that.
Stabbings galore in Ealing whilst I was living there.

I used to train at the Linford Christie Stadium in Acton, West London where most of the people I trained with were black Londoners. In the late 90's they were joking about the violence and saying don't respond to the kids in Harlesden, "they'll just stab you because they don't want to get blood on their Mosch"

Fast forward a few years and then the Somali kids turned up. Cheeky little shits interrupting our training right inside the stadium, the guys just went up and went toe to toe with them.
They shat themselves cos none of them can fight.
Fast forward and we're dealing with knife threats, vandalism, break ins and we're getting cars into and out of the stadium, buddy system for walking to the tube.
Back in the 90's that just didn't exist.

It is getting off the scale and the police and council are now officially useless.

Forest Gate was walking the gauntlet when I lived there briefly. middle of the day on the high street getting shoulder barged by Africans offering me out, at the same time getting called a batty boy by Pakistanis from the back of their cars. I started calling it racist gate in my mind.

I worked with a Ukrainian cleaner in Hounslow who was gaming the system. Brought his family over. He was so depressed. He felt like he was living amongst rats.
Russian migrant in Stamford Hill complaining to me what a violent shithole London was. Had his wife and kids over with him and a drug dealer just out of jail making threats opposite.
The guy crashed his car into the nearby wall and it was about to collapse on the courtyard.
Oh! Smile the correspondence with the Iranian staffed property management company! Smile You think they did ANYTHING about it?
They couldn't even write letters in English.
some South American bitches dropping bags of flour from 5 floors above trying to catch the Russian's 3 year old son as he tottered around in the courtyard. Big puff of flour. just missed him. Looked at me in surprise and realised that I had watched them do it from across the road. just big grins "Perdon!" Big shrugs "Lo Siento!" shut the window.
I mean sure the Russian father plays his music far too loud but still.. That was some Patrick Bateman shit.

Saw some Latina girls refuse to give up the pavement to an older black Londoner in Canning Town. He gives them this long lecture as they giggle.
He calls after them "Hispanic Bitches!" They freeze.. Turn and Start waving one high heel each. (?) "You! YOU! say that Chango!! But you're a Fucking N****r!!

Stabbings in Holland Park on my watch, stabbings in Wembley, in Mill Hill, Shepherds bush..

Everyone I worked and lived with had a story. Polish ex-gang members telling me their London war stories, playing a game with Turks, 'how long is it since you last pulled a knife on someone?" "3 weeks.." "10 days.."
"when was the last time someone was killed in your ends?"

Nowhere as bad as some US inner cities.

But..
London is now a tower of Babel full of some genuine psychos and lots of soft-as-shit wannabe thugs who are mostly lazy chancers with knives and acid to hand.
It wasn't before.

I've seen the change. Maybe it takes being homeless and constantly moving between boroughs and shit-hole accommodation enough to trash one's credit rating to see it happen in full.

But I'm no expert, we're all naive and sheltered compared to what some other person has seen.

Yes, It's getting stupid. and nowhere is immune..
Thats why the London Riots happened. It happened almost everywhere. Barnet, Bethnal Green, Homerton, Finchley, Ealing - fucking everywhere.
And kids are getting stabbed all the way out in the commuter belt now, Berkhamsted, Hemel Hempstead, kids being murdered - the ultimate middle class Home Counties towns are not dealing with Friday night Fighters anymore - they are getting advice on how to deal with the newly arrived gangs.

Maybe these discussions should be on the RIP London thread and not a general one about the UK.

Anyway plus £100,000 a year and it all becomes invisible.

I know an organic cafe on a shithole street in Forest Gate run by a moderately wealthy gay couple.
They sell Artisanal Bread - whatever that is.
They're really excited about how hip the area is going to be. They've never even been in a fight.
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Gotta say I also respectfully disagree rudebwoy. London overall definitely doesn't have the crime levels of an American city, but the crime it does have is far more relevant to the average middle class person's lifestyle. In London unless you're extremely wealthy you get public transport, and walk around on the streets, a lot. And good areas are sandwiched in next to rough areas. Which means it just comes down to random chance running into some chavs as you're walking home from the gym or work, or if they decide to break into your house.

In the US the crime in the actual ghettos is far worse - far more guns, far more deaths etc. But the middle class areas are far away from that in most cities. And because everyone drives everywhere (outside of NYC/Chicago) you're far more insulated from street crime. Its way less common in my experience to hear of random muggings or street crime happening to middle class people there. As opposed to in London, where its a case of "when" not "if" - most people I know who've lived there long enough have a bad story or two to tell.
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^ Crime isn't only in the ghettos in America.

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I know, but crime is definitely far more concentrated in working class and ghetto areas in the US than it is in the UK for cultural/geographic/transportation reasons. In the UK things like street crime and burglaries bleed over far more into middle class areas unfortunately.
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RE: The United Kingdom really sucks?
12 pages in, so I missed the bulk of the discussion. Anyway, I would like to give my opinion on the UK, as a Brit.

Basically, it's a mixed bag. It can either be brilliant or awful. Other European countries are more consistent in that respect.
Nature-wise, it's beautiful - especially in Scotland. Architecturally, it is also beautiful (e.g. Bath, York, Cambridge, Edinburgh etc.).

In terms of the women, it's basically down to WHERE you go in the UK. If a girl is from a poor or generally "rough" area, expect her to be uncultured and eating crap food.
If she's from a good background, I think the UK can definitely hold its own against other European countries in terms of standards.

Genetically, the UK is a Germanic/Celtic mix, so Brits normally have a fairer complexion. I maintain that genetically there is no issue really. It's all about the education, mentality and health - it varies and these days it's hard to generalise.

London is a good bet for meeting British professionals who have ambition and have been successful.
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RE: The United Kingdom really sucks?
(05-22-2019 07:25 AM)crystalcastle Wrote:  London has never really interested me outside of a short holiday. Seems a lot like a tourist hellhole like many capital cities. Unless you're making bank I don't see the allure. Like someone said, I assume most people live in flatshares because of how outrageously expensive it is and that's one thing I wouldn't like to endure for months or years. The cost of living frightens me more than the perceived crime or very real immigration.

What about Glasgow or Belfast? I know people say Scottish women are grim and that's probably true in many cases, but what about Irish? I'm considering both cities for at least a year before EU nationals aren't able to be (TM's words) queue jumpers post-Brexit. I would be working that time so obviously that has an impact. In my case I'm Ameriburger by birth but I have an EU passport. I would like to think or hope I would encounter less hostility, if any.

If you're thinking of Ireland, specifically Dublin, it is even more expensive than London. I've lived in both cities and renting or buying in Dublin today is both expensive and competitive.
05-22-2019 04:34 PM
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