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(08-26-2015 11:32 AM)Bad Hussar Wrote:  Nice datasheet HCE. What are your thoughts of travelling from Nairobi north into Ethiopia? Is it possible by reasonable public transport? Is it advisable? And then further north through Sudan to Egypt. I have a vague desire to travel from Cape Town to Cairo overland, but have heard that you run into deep logistical problems and safety issues as soon as you hit northern Kenya.

I would strongly advise against it. There are still some buses or matatus on this long route (Nairobi-Moyale-Addis Ababa), but border areas in both countries are sparsely populated and impossible to thoroughly monitor by the police/military. Kenyan teachers and other public employees often give up their jobs rather than travel to these areas.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/201...96802.html

As beautiful as such a trip would be, I think it's setting you up for a whole lot of trouble.

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No visa on arrival anymore? oh well, next country for me. I think soon all these countries will make it hard for people to enter. It's a growing trend.
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(08-27-2015 10:51 PM)DejudeandRice Wrote:  No visa on arrival anymore? oh well, next country for me. I think soon all these countries will make it hard for people to enter. It's a growing trend.

Huh?

Kenya now has an electronic visa, same as Turkey. It's just as easy as a visa on arrival.

https://immigration.ecitizen.go.ke/index.php?id=5

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(08-27-2015 10:51 PM)DejudeandRice Wrote:  No visa on arrival anymore? oh well, next country for me. I think soon all these countries will make it hard for people to enter. It's a growing trend.

If you're commenting on the fact that, as a US citizen you must pay for the visa...

A lot of smaller countries charge visa fees. Sometimes they can be quite expensive - especially to US , European and Aussie travelers. It's a way of getting in some revenue. I can assure you that if a Kenyan wanted to travel to the US he would be paying a lot more than US50/US$100 for his visa. Especially considering he would probably need to travel to an interview. Anyway, there are many counties US citizens can travel to without paying for a visa, so you can consider yourself lucky. If you only have a "third world" passport and are planning on going on a round the world type trip you're looking at well over US$1,000 for just the visa's. Let alone the cost of travelling to innumerable "interviews" were usually no true interview takes place, but biometric data is collected.

Luckily I have a "first world" passport so am OK, but a friend of mine without one is planning a round the world trip, and the paperwork is...extensive. Even for a relatively "tame" trip. Europe (Schengen), UK, USA, Canada, Australia. All separate visas. And all bar one want to physically hold the passport while the application is being processed. Which could take a few weeks. It's retarded.
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(08-28-2015 04:24 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  
(08-27-2015 10:51 PM)DejudeandRice Wrote:  No visa on arrival anymore? oh well, next country for me. I think soon all these countries will make it hard for people to enter. It's a growing trend.

Huh?

Kenya now has an electronic visa, same as Turkey. It's just as easy as a visa on arrival.

https://immigration.ecitizen.go.ke/index.php?id=5

Oh ok, that's even better.
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Just got back from Kenya a couple weeks ago. Wish I'd found this post BEFORE I went but nevertheless had a great time.

Thought I'd add a few comments:

1. I pipelined in Badoo for a few weeks prior to arrival and, essentially, had my choice of 20+ year-olds. Many Butterfaces, but with the sheer numbers, arranging at least a date a day was really no problem. Girls ranged from dead stupid to fun and interesting. English is spoken by everyone.

2. No sign of western entitlement. I have a standard line I use with girls about "...being a dominant guy and needing a submissive woman..." that weeds out about 20% of the women I meet in SEA and about 60% of the Western women. Of the 30 or 40 women I chatted with in Kenya, exactly ONE woman took offense. Three or four sent me meme's about what a JOY it is to be a submissive woman to your man. I absolutely LOVED the women's attitudes here! The expect to serve their men and expect that their men like to fuck.

3. As mentioned in the OPs datasheet, Westlands is the main nightlife area. I'm not a clubber so didn't get over there except one evening when a 6' tall model led me there (story in "I just got laid" thread"). We (I was travelling with a buddy), got a three bedroom apartment in Lavington, a couple miles southwest of the center of Nairobi, while Westlands is a couple miles north east of same, for 75$ a night, the security of a gate guard and the extra space (along with the gym and pool) was a slam dunk. A couple girls bitched about it being "far". I just told them to "get an Uber" and they always arrived soon after.

Traffic in Nairobi is BRUTAL so I generally had girls come to me so I didn't have to sit in traffic. If you want to hit the clubs daily, make sure you're closer to Westlands.

4. Uber is the way to go. Don't mess with the Matatas unless you have an escort. They do tend to come slowly, but we jsut got used to calling an Uber before we paid the bill and they usually arrived shortly after we finally hit the street.

5. Don't know if it's been mentioned anywhere but T-mobile is god's gift to the travelling pussy hound. Having FREE DATA and TEXTS in EVERY country is a godsend for quick trips. (no free data in Tanzania). All the same apps I use in America work perfectly in Kenya, Phillipines, HK, China, it's fucking amazing.

6. Java House is a Kenyan Starbucks with an "international" menu. Made for a GREAT meeting place and I LOVE their Marsala tea.

7. The Kenyan version of Marsala tea is made with enough Ginger to make it spicy hot. Highly recommend it...

8. Mombasa is a cool city over on the east coast. Different city, same story. Lovely, available girls, low prices, shitty roads, bad traffic.

9 I didn't do any chasing in Tanzania (we were there to climb Kilimanjaro), but believe that it would have been just as easy as Kenya. I DID get my TZ flag from a Tanzanian living in Mombasa.

In summation, I don't know why Kenya and Tanzania have not gotten more love on this forum. The +4 SMV for white guys is absolutely real. The attitude about older men dating young women is at least as good as in SEA. The education level of women is great. I'm a big fan of Asian women, love the tiny little bodies, but the Kenyan girls have amazing asses that are making me rethink.

Without doubt, every older white guy on this forum should be considering visiting (and/or retiring) here. It's every bit the pussy paradise of SEA but far less cliche...

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After a 2 month stint in Kenya I'll give my breakdown:

The good

- very easy to get laid. Easier than SEA I dare say without the ladyboys. Almost all my lays came from Tinder. I'm mid 30s and was banging in the low 20s exclusively. Nightgame is good too but having to be on guard for whores gets annoying after a while.

- Safaris. Massai mara (joins with Serengetti) is the main one but there's also a national park in Nairobi.

- Beaches. I went to Diani and Nyali which are both part of greater Mombasa. There's also Watamu and Malindi 50 km north of Nyali. Wind surfing is the big thing in Kenya because if the consistent winds. The beaches arent typical in the sense that people are laying out getting sun. It's too windy and the sand is quite hard from being wind-swept. The water is bice and warn but a bit rough. Not ideal for swimming. Flights from Nairobi to the beaches is around $100 return and 45 min. The bus takes 12 hours.

- If you like black girls you'll like Kenya. They aren't fat like in the US. I fucked one girl with a giant ass on a slim body and different petite girl with enormous tits. If you're in to these crazy proportions it's a good time.

- Weather in Nairobi is perfect in Jan / Feb. 28 C and sunny every day and 13 C at night for comfortable sleeping. The coast is a bit hot, similar to SEA. Was 37C most days in Diani.

- The people are generally nice and friendly. Lots of expats around to make friends with.

The bad

- Traffic. Huge hassle getting anywhere during the day. No sidewalks so walking is not enjoyable.

- The threat of disease. Not much malaria in Nairobi because of the altitude but lots else where including at the coast. Condoms are a must. Lots of HIV. I broke a condom in one girl and was freaking out for a couple days. Turned out it was all good.

- Nothing works. It's Africa. Lots of power outages. Little nuisances. Uber if frustrating. They have a hard time driving to where you are on the map.

- Prostitution. I generally don't pay for whores. In Africa if you're at a bar and a girl is talking to you, she's alone, she's trying to get you to buy drinks, she's asking where you're staying, there a 99% chance she's a whore. I fell for it once where I took one home because she never mentioned anything about paying her....until the morning. That's a scam they run. They know if they mention paying up front they'll likely get shot down.

- Getting begged constantly. The daily guilt trip started to get to me. Sometimes I just want to walk around and be left the fuck alone. Kids would follow me for blocks sometimes. The guys at the beach always trying to sell you cheap shit, whores and drugs.

- Cost. You might be thinking Africa is cheap. Not so in Nairobi. Restaurants are western priced. My apartment was $650 a month. Not bad. Eastern Europe or SEA are both cheaper.

Clubs

Brew Bistro - most popular right now. It's good but I ended seeing girls I fucked previously so it started to get weird.

K1 - place to be on Tuesday.

Alchemist - a more white crowd because the DJ plays electronic music.

Tune hotel and Sankara both have nice rooftop bars.

Havana - nice bar to take dates.

Vineyard - another decent bar for dates

Gyms

Racing gym - my preferred gym. Reasonable price, has everything you need.

Arena in Sarit mall. Expensive but nice.

Everything I've mentioned here is in Westlands. I didn't spend much time outside of Westlands. Apparently there's a club called Bclub in Killmani that's decent.

Malls

Westgate - high end
Sarit - older
Galleria - far away
Yaya - in Killmani. Pretty nice.
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This seems very intriguing.. I'm not into African American gals so much, but something about an african girl from the motherland seems intriguing to me, along with the language accent is a big plus. i switched my location on tinder here and my phone started blowing up just after 20 minutes of swiping, after not getting many matches anywhere else--bkk, bogota, kiev. my shit was blowing up even faster then when i was set to manila.. more stories from guys that have been here would be great!
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I'm gonna be in Nairobi for 3 weeks or so, if any of you playas are around hit me up!
I'll update this thread with some more data once I get there later this month.
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Look forward to your write-up TT! Btw where are you from and whats your background?
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Here now and loving Nairobi so far.
And I am trying to decide where to go for a week getaway to the beach.
Has anyone been to Malindi, Mombassa or Diani? Any recommendations?

Kenya girl-wise: beautiful slender dark women with friendly attitudes and a lot of them are educated, have real jobs and great personalities too.
Everything the playas above commented about Nairobi is spot on.

(01-01-2018 11:22 AM)AmericanPharoah Wrote:  Look forward to your write-up TT! Btw where are you from and whats your background?

AmericanPharoah I'll def post something up when I gather more intel about this place.
And I'm from NYC and just a white dude.
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I checked just to see if it might be worth visiting.
I'm getting closed to convinced. A month of Kenya in March and early April.
Thank you guys for the info.

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@twinturbo keep us posted, man. I'll be in Nairobi for a weekend next month and trying to decide on which Westlands hotel to stay in that doesn't have cockblocking staff. Also plan to check out the nightlife spots that have been mentioned in this thread, looking forward to your observations.

Zanzibar may also be an option for a beach trip, it's a quick flight.
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(01-29-2018 10:03 AM)Friar Wrote:  @twinturbo keep us posted, man. I'll be in Nairobi for a weekend next month and trying to decide on which Westlands hotel to stay in that doesn't have cockblocking staff. Also plan to check out the nightlife spots that have been mentioned in this thread, looking forward to your observations.

Zanzibar may also be an option for a beach trip, it's a quick flight.

I would get an airbnb instead of an hotel, because its cheaper, more convenient and you won't have any trouble getting girls up.

Location wise: Ideally in or around this area in the center of this map, because the city is laid out badly enough that even to grab a quick bite you may need to get an uber otherwise.
https://www.google.com/maps/@-1.2635179,...,17z?hl=en

I'll be here for another 3 weeks or so , hit me up if you are going to be here at the same time.



And yes definitely going to Zanzibar in the next month or so, looks incredible (although I hear its not really a good place for game and the locals are 99% muslim, so just BYOB aka bring your own bitch)
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(01-28-2018 02:25 PM)BacanT Wrote:  I checked just to see if it might be worth visiting.
I'm getting closed to convinced. A month of Kenya in March and early April.
Thank you guys for the info.

Yeah do it man.
Its definitely fucking Africa up in here here, but in a good way.

I would say the main caveat is the cost - living your day to day life here is just as costly as the USA for example. Basic lunch at a normal no frills cafe will run you $10-12 and a shitty local beer at any bar will be $3-4, up to $5-6 in nicer bars.
A lot more than south africa for example, where I spend the last 3 months. But it is what it is.

There's a growing big middle class here and they spend all their extra money and food and drinks basically.
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(02-01-2018 04:33 AM)TwinTurbo Wrote:  
(01-28-2018 02:25 PM)BacanT Wrote:  I checked just to see if it might be worth visiting.
I'm getting closed to convinced. A month of Kenya in March and early April.
Thank you guys for the info.

Yeah do it man.
Its definitely fucking Africa up in here here, but in a good way.

I would say the main caveat is the cost - living your day to day life here is just as costly as the USA for example. Basic lunch at a normal no frills cafe will run you $10-12 and a shitty local beer at any bar will be $3-4, up to $5-6 in nicer bars.
A lot more than south africa for example, where I spend the last 3 months. But it is what it is.

There's a growing big middle class here and they spend all their extra money and food and drinks basically.

How does the cost of living compare to South Africa? What city in SA did you spend time in?
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Well those are big. Looks like Nairobi should be a fun time.

I found South Africa to be cheap, unlike many other places in the continent where you have to pay up for Western amenities. Car rental was like $30/day, steak dinner for two w/ drinks for $35, good wine at supermarket for $6, meal at Nando's for like $8. Might have changed a bit with the dollar weakening, but felt good to live it up in both Cape Town and J'oburg.
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Kenya is great. Nairobi and Mombasa are very different cities though. MBA is coastal,humid and Muslim, although it has a large pro-scene north and south of it. NBO is often surprisingly cold, can be very expensive if you want it to be.
No way beers in a local bar are $3 though ; more like half that
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(02-01-2018 06:35 PM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  Good ol Kenya
FUCK YEAH!
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(02-01-2018 10:33 AM)Heart Break Kid Wrote:  
(02-01-2018 04:33 AM)TwinTurbo Wrote:  
(01-28-2018 02:25 PM)BacanT Wrote:  I checked just to see if it might be worth visiting.
I'm getting closed to convinced. A month of Kenya in March and early April.
Thank you guys for the info.

Yeah do it man.
Its definitely fucking Africa up in here here, but in a good way.

I would say the main caveat is the cost - living your day to day life here is just as costly as the USA for example. Basic lunch at a normal no frills cafe will run you $10-12 and a shitty local beer at any bar will be $3-4, up to $5-6 in nicer bars.
A lot more than south africa for example, where I spend the last 3 months. But it is what it is.

There's a growing big middle class here and they spend all their extra money and food and drinks basically.

How does the cost of living compare to South Africa? What city in SA did you spend time in?

The cost of living is probably relatively similar to Joburg/Cape Town, a bit higher perhaps to live similarly. I found food in SA to be very affordable, even eating well and also beer/wine of course is way cheaper. I hear kenya outside of nairobi is a lot cheaper though.
Some things that are way more expensive here than in SA: car rentals ($100/day I was looking at), hotels. Uber/Taxify and airbnb the way to go.
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(02-02-2018 02:34 PM)tungsten Wrote:  Kenya is great. Nairobi and Mombasa are very different cities though. MBA is coastal,humid and Muslim, although it has a large pro-scene north and south of it. NBO is often surprisingly cold, can be very expensive if you want it to be.
No way beers in a local bar are $3 though ; more like half that

Please tell me where you can find beers for cheaper than $3?
Maybe in a road-side cafe where construction workers go, but at any bar I've been to in nairobi you're looking at exactly $3 for a Tusker - and around $5 if its a night club.

BTW I love the weather in nairobi, its always warm to moderate, chilled at night but still I never wear a jacket or long sleeves.
I think its quite funny when the locals keep complaining about how hot it is. I'm like really ?? For real hot try singapore or southern spain in the summer.
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Twin Turbo, I had to check with a girl in Nairobi to be sure but she says a Tusker Lager in a standard bar is $1.80 (180 Ksh) and $2.50 in the CBD bar she works in (Tribeca.) That said, I remember a Westlands bar - I think it was Hypnotica - where the clientele were 98% local and the prices were like London.
Around Mombasa where there are a lot of busted old mzungu living on pensions you can find beer for 165Ksh.
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Standard practice is a mark up of 100-200% if you’re in a spot that is mostly expats.

A spot that caters to locals will have beers and shots for the dollar.

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(02-01-2018 06:35 PM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  Good ol Kenya

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