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The United States of too many men...
I'm sure everyone here is aware of the ratio problem in America. It only seems to be getting worse. This a lengthy post, but it's accurate. I've been to other countries, nowhere has this problem the way you do in America, well maybe China, but at least it's documented there. It's well known the Anglosphere is bad, but America takes the cake here, by a wide margin, and in more ways than one.

Basically, among non-married people, even when you include gay men, men in jail, men overseas...there's still a massive abundance of single straight men. America is one big sausagefest outside of some college campuses. At this point, it's the United States of Hillshire Farm. Male/female ratios in the US when adjusted to include fat women (who might as well be men) are probably worse than mainland China, or easily within 1 standard deviation (it's never been scientifically quantified but doesn't need to be). To be fair, there's lots of fat men too. At least the average Chinese woman has a BMI within normal limits. If the average American woman sits on you, there's a good chance you might end up Shanghai'd.

107:100 is the worldwide birth ratio (105 or 106:100 in some countries). I knew as a kid there were way more boys than girls. It was depressing to know that fact at a young age. The birth ratio explains it. Years ago, I worked with a guy in Chicago who told me in 3rd grade, his class was all boys. I didn't believe him, so he brought in his class picture from back then. 20 boys, not 1 girl, a co-ed school.

No one talks about this, immigration in the US has always been overwhelmingly male, probably going back to the days of Ellis Island. I'm not sure where the statistic is, but when Mexicans & Central Americans were crossing the Rio Grande en masse, it was something like 70% male. The Indians coming here for their H1B visa to churn out computer codes all day...almost exclusively male. The current situation is this. Any woman who isn't fat, at least average looking, doesn't matter if she's on food stamps, welfare, multiple "baby daddy's", criminal record - she will have a revolving door of men every time she unlocks her smartphone main screen. Whether its standard text, facebook likes, facebook messages, kik, snapchat, instagram, whatsapp, skype...it's never ending. Men have never had to deal with this before. The extremely lopsided ratios don't help either. Attention typically reserved for strippers on the clock is now commonplace for any American woman who isn't fat, at least average looking, and happens to be on social media, which most everyone is on in some capacity.

I've gone out with women who were attractive, but had baggage (there's not much choice in Middle America), have kids, on several antidepressants, etc. Some have had over 400 unread messages in a week. A lot are repeat messages, but they are there nonetheless. It was easier 10 years ago in the days of AOL instant messenger and nokia phones. Today, it's become impossible (or exceedingly difficult) to really keep a woman. Marriage or a long-term relationship is simply a losing proposition. I do know some happily married people but they're exceptions. My friends who are in long term relationships seem to be in this never-ending cycle of her threatening to leave, and having to constantly deal with that.

Attraction (or simply not being fat and at least average) has trumped fertility. I've gone out with women ranging from early 20s to late 40s, and regardless of age, they all had several men-in-orbit ranging from guys in their early 20s to men in their 60s (orbiting goes up exponentially if a woman has been on a dating site even one hour). Conventional wisdom would say an attractive woman in her 20s has the most worthy suitors after her - it's simply not true. Men might see them as too difficult and will go for one who is slightly older first. Even fat women unless they're Humpty Dumpty personified get attention from regular guys several points above them. It's really that bad. I will use 3 examples of women I've talked to lately that messaged me first on a popular dating site. I entertained the conversations out of curiosity although I typically wouldn't bother responding to them.

1. 52 year old woman. Would be considered attractive for her age. Confirmed what I knew, tons of messages from younger guys telling her how much they love older women. Brags that she can get men half her own age easily. Seemed offended I wasn't interested.

2. Overweight blonde woman early 30s (probably hovering around 180 standing 5'5). Confirmed she gets messages daily telling her "I love your curves", "voluptuous women are sexy", "I want a woman like you to keep me warm in winter". Keep in mind, this woman would be eligible to step in the ring with Lennox Lewis. There's a ton of these, usually seem to specialize in the "if you don't love me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best" mentality. A pass to be mean and inconsiderate whenever she wants. I told her it's stupid to think that way and to buy a treadmill.

3. Attractive white/hispanic girl with genital herpes, mid 20s. She mentioned it in the first message. I asked her how its affected her dating life. She says it hasn't at all. Gets messages saying "hey I dont mind that you have it, I think it makes you special". "If other guys don't want you for it, I will". "I don't judge you and will only care for you more", or "If I get it from you lets be together".

The men telling these women those things are doing so mainly as a shortcut. They don't really want them but the disproportionate male sex drive combined with lack of prostitution gives them more options than they could dream of. The 3rd one is attractive (a legit 7) so guys supplicate heavily on the fact she has herpes hoping she gives them a chance. The inverse would not be true for a man. Twice as many women have it as men but there are obviously guys willing to get it so they essentially can try to lock her down.

The fat women probably know most of those guys don't want them for more than a one-night stand or short term fling, but it has to be very validating receiving that attention constantly from men several points above them. A below average woman gets more attention than a very above average man does unless he's famous. Legalize prostitution, and watch the fat woman's pseudo-desirability sink like the Titanic.

Stuff that worked back in the day like playful jokes in the first message can potentially get you blocked right away now. They want you to supplicate for their own ego, and they get a lot of it. As a man, you are just a number, a commodity she can bring out of a box and put back whenever she wants. There's been a massive change in the past 2 years now that absolutely everyone has a smartphone and the constant connection to social media. I'd estimate using my own data there's probably about 15-20 normal, in-shape men ranging from average looking to very good looking for every 1 woman who is not fat & considered at least cute anywhere from 20s to 40s. If you count the men who are complete tools, its probably closer to 100 men for 1 attractive woman.

The gender imbalance is starting to manifest itself in some strange ways. I'm going to address these individually. It's making men stupid, men are turning gay just to get off, excessive drugs/drinking, rioting, cuckoldry/polygamy (rise of the SMF), societal rudeness, now or never (using their slew of options against you), posting updates asking for favors, having a "list". Men are nothing more than commodities these days.

- Guys are getting stupider. A guy gets a woman's number online, instantly texts her a picture of his junk. I've had women personally tell me they were surprised I didn't do that. Basically, there's a large subset of American men who can't even think correctly these days.

- As a somewhat androgynous very dapper guy, I seem to attract interest from society-deemed straight men on occasion. This has happened in the past, but it's almost a given these days. I'll be at a bar, some guy will start talking to me, ask if I'm gay/bi (I'm not) and tell me it's something he wants to try. Some will jokingly ask me off the bat if I will dress up in drag, i.e. they'd rather project an attractive female in a male than actually be with a fat or unattractive real female. These guys are either single, in sexless marriages, or they are not satisfied after their wives put on weight or generally hit the wall. Facebook accounts of passable transgenders have orbiters these days I've noticed from men who identify as straight.

- Craigslist DL. Look in any town of at least 100k people in the m4m casual encounters section. There's men openly admitting they are willing to go gay because they couldn't find a woman at the bar that night, men that struck out sending their usual barrage of copy/paste messages online to any woman who isn't fat and at least average. There's even gay men trying to court straight men. Be prepared though, you'll see some weird stuff and overtly perverse taglines.

- Excessive drinking. You see it all the time. Closing time is nearing, the lights are about to go on, so they decide to order a shot of tequila with a beer, because they know they're just gonna end up at home watching porn. Lots of them get behind the wheel and endanger the general public. Some also turn to excessive drug use. Even if you do meet one, good luck getting her away from her friends since women only go out on "girls nights" these days it seems. They'll probably try to delay you by getting food. If I had it my way I'd make every IHOP close early.

- Rioting during any unpopular racially-charged verdict usually involving a white cop and black male. All these men doing that probably wouldn't if they had a good woman in their lives. In the past year it's happened in Baltimore & St. Louis. These are essentially mini civil wars led by unhinged men.

- "The Single Married Female". Lots of men unfortunately are learning to accept cuckoldry. For some, it's a fetish, for others they know she is constantly bombarded with male attention, so she'll just do what she wants anyways. I've met a few of these women. They are paradoxically easier to get in bed than a woman who has so many options she can't decide. It's usually just a one time thing.

- Societal rudeness. Those from the baby boomer generation overall seem much more pleasant than whatever generation/s after that is. Women become entitled, men get desperate. Men are constantly on edge because even if their girlfriend/fiance/wife is a couple points below them (or has a lower SMV), she still has way more options than him. The only exception here is being a celebrity, and a sex symbol male celebrity at that.

- Woman tells you to meet her, but it has to be right now or exactly when she tells you. This is your only chance sometimes. If you don't, the revolving door of men is right there and it's not closing. They will use that against you as well using terminology like "Well I have about 40 guys who want to hang out so fine I won't meet you then if you can't when I'm available".

- Using men only for favors. A woman will put on her tinder or plentyoffish page in the headline "Someone bring me chipotle/starbucks/vacuum my apartment right now". Within seconds, men jump on it like a jug of water in the middle of the Sahara. It means they'll get a minute alone with her. I actually know women who have done this, then bragged about in facebook, to get comments from orbiters saying "Hey next time you need something tell me first". It's gotten to a point the orbiters start praising her amongst each other not realizing they're making themselves look like a bigger stooge than Octavio the clown. Arguably the biggest goofball ever shown on film.

- Accepting you're just a guy on "her list". She is concurrently seeing other guys or has a buffer stock of men to choose from at any given time. One guy she cuddles with, another guy goes down on her (sometimes gets nothing in return sometimes does), another guy is strictly a booty call (this is what you should always go for), another guy pays her cell phone bill in exchange for blow jobs. Banging a woman is essentially nothing more than a handshake with too many women these days. You'll be laying next to her in bed, and it's text/text/text/text from other guys. Women also have orbiters from faraway places. These poor saps hope they can somehow use the distance to show their appreciation, i.e. the knight in shining armor from afar.

In my current town (a mid-sized city in middle america in the middle of nowhere) there's constant headlines "XYZ county sets record for arrests in one year". "Vote for prison expansion today". "The sheriff wants to arrest even more this year than last". Expect all crime under the sun to rise when you have this many additional males.

The mainstream media has started to address this imbalance slightly. During a discussion of one of those recent shootings, a famous psychologist on CNN said the situation in the USA simply isn't good for straight men and brought up the ratio and how it's not talked about. Unfortunately, we are only going to see more of this behavior in the future. The left only cares about Bruce-becoming-Caitlyn or gay teens being bullied, and the right is still puritanical.

Don't get me wrong, anyone being bullied is a problem, and I support equal rights for all. If anything, it would help if questioning men choose that alternate persuasion. Even if all of them did, it still wouldn't be nearly enough.

Fixing the ratios would call for a worldwide immigration program granting women immediate legal status in the US (must have BMI within normal limits). Also the deportation of illegal men would have to happen, and some sort of financial incentive to get American women back in shape with additional incentive if they keep it off. Waive their college loans. Something. Obviously this won't happen, but until it does don't expect things to change in the US anytime soon. This is sadly the most violent developed country on earth. As irrational as the Hivemind is (they might as well be sent to Pluto), there's no way they can be in favor of an unstable society. News flash...the US is already there.

You have to essentially prove to women these days you don't need them and not let them use their fan club against you. There might not be a better time to work in porn or own a strip club. You have to "proof" yourself against their bargaining chip, which is the fact they have way more options than you, even if you're a high value man (which I assume many of you here are).

The left & right both will blame each other on the economy all day long. Both need to wake up and realize they're both wrong. A lot of American men cannot really feel motivated to work or be productive when even to keep an average-not-fat-woman is difficult and she has about 50 more options at any given time than you do. While it's a different topic for a different day, the average working man cannot make enough money to even support a family these days.

I'm convinced if the left/SWPL/SJW/liberal hivemind lets celebrate Bruce-becoming-Caitlyn crowd had their way, they'd personally unleash Torquemada on all straight men. A single straight man above 30 not married with no kids will most likely be viewed as strange or some kind of social idiot unless in a major coastal city where you aren't expected to be married in your 20s. Yet across America, a single gay man above 30 checking grindr or craigslist every 5 minutes looking for a new "bud" as they call it should be looked at with reverence now.

It was different before smartphones & social media. Social media itself didn't create the orbit problem, Women had orbiters, but nothing like today. Essentially, men & women have gone rogue. Too many women would rather brag about "binge watching" Orange Is The New Black while downing a pint of Ben & Jerry's, post that on facebook, and watch the incoming tsunami of likes or instant invitations via the chat box now that it's announced she doesn't have plans that particular night. To be fair again, I have met some women who aren't like, and happen to be American. Thankfully, not everyone is susceptible to the Hivemind.

The most prized commodity in the US isn't even gold at this moment. It's single, thin, attractive, feminine, non-bitchy women. Any presidential candidate who addresses this ratio and wants to fix it would win the male vote minus the SWPL contingent. Meaning, they'd easily win. Trump should address it if he wants to win (assuming voting is real which it probably isn't).

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RE: The United States of too many men...
Ireland is far worse - believe me.

I have never been on a non-alcohol date with an Irish Woman, even though they insisted we meet for coffee. Flaked every time when I arranged a coffee date.
C'est la vie.

Thank God for Foreign Women.
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RE: The United States of too many men...
(08-11-2015 04:07 AM)toysoldier Wrote:  - As a somewhat androgynous very dapper guy, I seem to attract interest from society-deemed straight men on occasion. This has happened in the past, but it's almost a given these days. I'll be at a bar, some guy will start talking to me, ask if I'm gay/bi (I'm not) and tell me it's something he wants to try.

In all seriousness, this sounds like your problem.

I've never had a man try and hit on me.
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Dress like a man, act like a man and see the pussy flow.
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I have, only a couple of times, it weirded me out tremendously the first time. I was actually talking to a guy about how much I hated the speaker we had to sit through.

He had conservative politics too, I think there is something to establishment Republicans being homos.

That's why they squeal at being called cucks. Cause its true, or they're gay which isn't much different.

But yea, if that's happening a lot, that's strange.
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Dressing like a man means dressing like a complete idiot where I am. Anything stylish is still seen as queer, there's just no way around it.
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(08-11-2015 05:05 AM)toysoldier Wrote:  Dressing like a man means dressing like a complete idiot where I am. Anything stylish is still seen as queer, there's just no way around it.

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Those godfather gifs are money.
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(08-11-2015 04:56 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  
(08-11-2015 04:07 AM)toysoldier Wrote:  - As a somewhat androgynous very dapper guy, I seem to attract interest from society-deemed straight men on occasion. This has happened in the past, but it's almost a given these days. I'll be at a bar, some guy will start talking to me, ask if I'm gay/bi (I'm not) and tell me it's something he wants to try.

In all seriousness, this sounds like your problem.

I've never had a man try and hit on me.

Apparently androgyny is in now fellas, mens fashion is headed for a gender bender moment. Huh

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Threads like this are usually popular on the RVF and with good reason.

However, there's a point where just discussing it isn't enough.

The problem isn't going to go away any time soon. As men capable of self-improvement, our focus should be on responding to the problem. We aren't going to change demographics, politics or large-scale culture any time soon.

But we can change ourselves and we can change our location.

I can't tell you how to build a life in Brazil or Russia if you're focused on sex with a certain type of woman, but I absolutely have the knowledge to help many man build a life here in China. It took me several years to build that knowledge, but I could get a new guy up to speed in much less time.

It's not an easy path. Few things worthwhile are easy. But it's definitely do able. If you really can not stand the state of affairs somewhere in the Western word, there are other options.

PM me. I respond to those types of messages all the time.

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(08-11-2015 05:44 AM)Suits Wrote:  PM me. I respond to those types of messages all the time.

The OP is a previously banned troll who's clearly gay trolling here.

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(08-11-2015 05:46 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  
(08-11-2015 05:44 AM)Suits Wrote:  PM me. I respond to those types of messages all the time.

The OP is a previously banned troll who's clearly gay trolling here.
Had he been given three more posts, the trolling would've been obvious.
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This is a very nice post and what you've been describing is almost identical to my experiences before leaving to Asia. However, I would like to address one particular point you made:

(08-11-2015 04:07 AM)toysoldier Wrote:  Fixing the ratios would call for a worldwide immigration program granting women immediate legal status in the US (must have BMI within normal limits). Also the deportation of illegal men would have to happen cc

Unfortunately the problems we are facing are global. Even though not everywhere is the situation as hopeless as in the U.S./eu sphere, everyone who has traveled and paid a bit of attention will notice the same patterns all around the world: with 7+ billion people we are not only facing a dramatically overpopulated planet, but it is male overpopulation in particular that is the driving force behind all the misery we are confronted with today.

No amount of migration wil help and if we take a historic perspective of where the future will lead...

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Here is a recent article by dr. Peter Frost on the topic:
http://evoandproud.blogspot.com/2015/06/...ingle.html


It's not looking good....
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Here's a great interactive map of the single ratio in cities around the US.

http://jonathansoma.com/singles/
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(08-11-2015 07:36 AM)dads Wrote:  Had he been given three more posts, the trolling would've been obvious.

Aint nobody got time for that! You see how much this dude wrote? Holy shit. I've read full stories in the WSJ that were shorter than that.

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This is interesting. I used to work with a woman who had genital herpes and she told me on a herpes dating site there were lots of guys who didn't have it but figured it would be easier to get with women who do have it if they said they do. The dating pool for them is much smaller and more women have it than men, so in a sense, dating with herpes provides a favorable ratio for a man with it. She also said a lot of guys don't care. Not too surprising, the ratio situation in America is deplorable.

I've personally realized in the past 2 or 3 years the ratio seems to continually get worse, then you have too many women today whose social life really does revolve around netflix. Probably 25% of women on tinder mention netflix as their "goto activity".

The current ratio is creating some gay underground class of men who don't claim it. This can easily be verified in craigslist across the Great USA. I agree with the writer, it doesn't matter who is in office, it could be Hillary or Trump, the ratio will continue to get worse.

Legalization of prostitution would help women. You have so many "borderline attractive women" who get chased by guys who promise them the possibility of more but just need to sarge. These guys would be better paying a woman $100 for a night then not have any strange residual feelings the next day or have to worry about some sort of regret on her part.

The average man proabably gets 0-3 tinder matches a day, the average woman gets 70-100 tinder matches a day. Online isn't what it once was. Half the women won't even see your message these days since they have so many.
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Hold on wait a minute there. The 200,000 Syrian guys coming will make the rest of us natives look that much more appealing.

Also those millions of HB-1 visas.

We will look like kings next to all these fags.

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RE: The United States of too many men...
Craigslist right now (tier 2 or tier 3 city depending who you ask).

- Gays courting drunk straight men who didn't bring a woman home or struck out online
- Men who claim straight offering themselves to couples looking for a bi male saying they are cool with being bi (lots of these)
- Couples saying the men who claim they're bi actually don't to hold their end of the deal when it comes down to it, so the first session is male-only
- Men who claim straight specifically looking for a passable crossdresser or TS, but that they prefer a TS
- Men who claim straight looking for other men who claim straight to jerk off with or "blow n go"
- Men offering to go down on women saying they want nothing in return (yet you know they're hoping for it)
- Men saying they prefer BBW (besides very few, they don't)
- A new real ad of a man looking for a woman about every 3-4 minutes, compared to only 2 ads that look real (i.e. obviously aren't fakes) of a woman looking for a man in casual encounters, and they're nasty.

* if you don't believe this, simply look at craigslist in your own town.

This girl I've been talking to on OkCupid just confirmed she got 84 new messages +/- an hour of bar close. She's a solid 7.

I chatted up some less attractive women, they all claim to be getting spammed as well.

I really don't think those in foreign countries (even Anglosphere countries) understand the situation in the USA. The problem in the US isn't even about promoting feminism or SJW stuff to the extent it gets made out to be. The SJW's are typically in favor of legalization of marijuana for example and promoting promiscuity, but only among LGBT & women.

Sure, any guy in the US can go on backpage and find an escort, but it's impossible to know what ad is part of a sting or not (they make them look equally real). In the US, society will publically hang you for any minor crime and it will most likely follow you forever. They might as well bring back town criers in most of the US. There are tons of backpage escort ads opposed to very few real craigslist non-escort ads of women looking for men. I knew a stripper who was on backpage, and checked her emails from her smartphone during smoke breaks at the strip club. Easily over 500 in a day, and keep in mind in any decent sized city there's a revolving door of backpage escort ads (a lot of them starting at $200 for half hour, they know they can charge basically anything, men are that desperate in the US). Another thing, prostitution stings for whatever reason rarely if ever target gays, the SJW's would probably go into a full chant if that ever happened.

I've also noticed online there's a new thing going on legitimate dating sites and tinder/blendr where you have girls who claim they're 21, but after a few messages tell you they're 17. Being a straight guy in the US is a slippery slope these days. When you do find an LTR (I think more guys than not still want that) you have to deal with her constantly getting bombarded by male attention. It's hypergamy at the press of a button.

Will be interesting to see if this gender imbalance ever makes it the mainstream.
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RE: The United States of too many men...
(10-10-2015 08:42 PM)shayneToxic Wrote:  I used to work with a woman who had genital herpes and she told me on a herpes dating site there were lots of guys who didn't have it but figured it would be easier to get with women who do have it if they said they do. The dating pool for them is much smaller and more women have it than men, so in a sense, dating with herpes provides a favorable ratio for a man with it. She also said a lot of guys don't care. Not too surprising, the ratio situation in America is deplorable.

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That's a type of game I have NEVER heard of before. Guys without STDs chasing women with STDs for more favorable ratios. Jesus, that's a wrap.
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RE: The United States of too many men...
The phrase "buyer's market" for women never rang so true. I'd wager to say women's smartphones have more problems than men's smartphones just from the sheer amount of incoming data from other men in one way or another.
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I'm scared to death of getting herpes... can't even imagine chasing women with it on purpose for any reason. Jesus. That's how bad shit is today.

"I think it makes you special" LOL what the fuck.
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RE: The United States of too many men...
(10-11-2015 03:54 AM)shayneToxic Wrote:  Craigslist right now (tier 2 or tier 3 city depending who you ask).


This girl I've been talking to on OkCupid just confirmed she got 84 new messages +/- an hour of bar close. She's a solid 7.

I chatted up some less attractive women, they all claim to be getting spammed as well.

then again, it's not always as bad as it seems. I set up a fake OKC profile with a "hot' girl on it to research exactly how bad dudes are on the dating sites.


The true part: they get spammed like crazy. Messages were up in the dozens daily.

The false part? There's a ton of viable options. Most of the messages set a pretty low bar....ugly, obvious betas(some with missing teeth, I shit you not), with profiles that consisted of one or two sentences under every profile and a single shitty profile pic, writing lines of nothing more than "what's up?".


The thirst is real and it is very much a situation where the few good looking, alpha males are cleaning it up while everyone else straggles behind.
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For those of you who don't know, anyone can search Craigslist "casual encounters" without having to click on the subcategories.
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(10-11-2015 10:44 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  
(10-11-2015 03:54 AM)shayneToxic Wrote:  Craigslist right now (tier 2 or tier 3 city depending who you ask).


This girl I've been talking to on OkCupid just confirmed she got 84 new messages +/- an hour of bar close. She's a solid 7.

I chatted up some less attractive women, they all claim to be getting spammed as well.

then again, it's not always as bad as it seems. I set up a fake OKC profile with a "hot' girl on it to research exactly how bad dudes are on the dating sites.


The true part: they get spammed like crazy. Messages were up in the dozens daily.

The false part? There's a ton of viable options. Most of the messages set a pretty low bar....ugly, obvious betas(some with missing teeth, I shit you not), with profiles that consisted of one or two sentences under every profile and a single shitty profile pic, writing lines of nothing more than "what's up?".


The thirst is real and it is very much a situation where the few good looking, alpha males are cleaning it up while everyone else straggles behind.

That's a good point, a lot of those men are very unimpressive. Quite a few are average to above average as well though just off the sheer numbers. The competition among good-looking alphas for plain decent women in the US is staggering.

The middle class of women these days is basically gets as much attention as the upper class, at least in the US.
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