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All I can say is don't bother coming to New Zealand.

One of my buddies has just married his American girlfriend and she is very sweet. He met her at some family camp fire thing in the middle of no where when he was in the USA. He made a good choice.
She is definitely a country girl, into line dancing and country music etc.

I'm sure there would be some gems hidden away in the US.

Hmm maybe I should do a road trip.
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(08-29-2015 05:11 PM)Travesty Wrote:  ^ For all the guys touting Colorado I lived there for 5 years in Boulder and Denver (the two best cities for chicks in the state).

As an example I went to a university Catholic church for a year or so. Out of 100 girls there was maybe 2 or 3 legit 7's and they had attitudes and game playing knowing they are the hottest chicks.

Denver is even worse.

For example in SoCal you can possibly find an a few 8's that act like 7's and 7's that act like 6's. There are so many here girls can act a point below. That said, there are so many male options they can easily give you a shot then move on quickly. California divorce rate is 70%+.

Look up Colorado on in search: Don't Bang Colorado by Hencredible Casanova... Int'l Playboy had another post.

I lived there 5 years and have chosen to write nothing on the state LOL.

Beyond there being a severe lack of 7's the girls dress and style plain as fuck. Also beyond this! Yes there aren't as many fatties it is more like many girls is 5-15lbs overweight instead of 20-40lbs which counts as obese in these studies.

Now on the other hand I think Colorado is an amazing place to raise children with the COL and the mountain/nature activities and outdoor culture. It was a depressing place for me to meet girls though.

I didn't get a chance to read all the posts in this useful thread, but I personally never recommended Colorado as a place to wife hunt haha. I only suggested it as a place to bring a foreign (or American transplant if you decide on that) due to the outdoorsy options & emphasis on fitness there.

(08-29-2015 05:11 PM)Travesty Wrote:  I will visit Austin myself to find out. I get along well with Texas girls in general.

I had a chance to visit Austin again last May. Though I think the city is meh, the "Hill Country" (areas surrounding Austin) is absolutely beautiful. Great school districts, high real estate costs, and the outdoorsy options normally keeps the wives there in rather good shape. I'd say great place to raise a family.

The one thing Austin doesn't have that say a Dallas/Ft. Worth or Houston possess would be all the great ethnic food neighborhood options.

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(08-29-2015 06:02 PM)Sooth Wrote:  All I can say is don't bother coming to New Zealand.

Too late, already been there on the South Island. Didn't see much talent.

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(08-29-2015 10:36 AM)Akula Wrote:  I think you could probably say this about many girls from the Deep South now too. They tend to let themselves get really fat after marriage and to generally let themselves go. I don't know too many older Southern white women who are not at least a bit overweight. This has been true for decades now too - so many slim & beautiful girls I knew in college are beasts now.

@Travesty - after seeing the students back in town here in Kiev these past few days I think you really need to put Ukraine on your list. It's one of the last bastions of thin, feminine & sexy women who want a man and to get married & settle down. Yesterday just seemed like an endless procession of 7s, 8s and 9s walking around this place.

My original Europe plan was Poland, Serbia, Romania, and maybe Hungary.

It seems like Bosnia, Serbia, Ukraine, Russia, Belarus is a better bet.

It strikes fear into me that Roosh although he prefers Ukranian women, goes to rest up in Poland as far as living standards, as he seems much more of a minimalist and seasoned traveller than I will ever become.

It feels like living long term in Ukraine doesn't seem to be a great option. What are your thoughts on this?

I mean the compromise is taking a girl from Ukraine and taking her to a more marriage friendly part of the U.S. or another European country.

If you are going to export a chick though I am guessing everyone would agree having a couple where neither is the native culture is adding an entire new level of complexity to a relationship.

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Is she reacting to me? All pussy, no problems
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(08-29-2015 09:34 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Concur with Brosemite and 262. Be careful with Texas chicks. While they are considerable better, friendlier, more approachable than DC or Toronto, they aren't necessarily better for LTRs than anywhere else:

1. They get fat easily from too much mexican food and the car culture
2. They do try to act masculine out of Texan pride
3. They can drink anyone under the table
4. They ride the carousel hard especially before getting married or soon after a divorce... or worse, DURING marriage.

They can be fun and friendly, but marriage material? Caveat emptor.

With relevance to numbers 1 and 3, let me add

5. They love happy hours at places like Fuzzy's or Torchy's Tacos downing a combo of A) heavy draft beers, B) "frozen margs," C) chips & salsa, D) queso, and E) taco tuesday specials only to fall into sedentary comas afterwards...
6. Instead of being active on weekends, it's all about brunch with the girls where they A) down mimosas, B) overpriced potato sides, C) greasy dishes one can make at home easily, and D) adore being seen in the scene only to eventually feel it around their clothing sizes
7) Their only leisure time away from the grind will involve going to some bitches out of town wedding several times per year....your feelings aren't relevant while attendance is "mandatory"

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(08-29-2015 07:24 PM)Travesty Wrote:  It feels like living long term in Ukraine doesn't seem to be a great option. What are your thoughts on this?

It's a tough environment to live in for long periods. It can be a huge grind. Shorter stays is more manageable or taking vacations outside of Ukraine will help. It helped reset my bullshit clock.

The problem with Ukraine is no matter how much money you make, you won't be able to use it to make life more enjoyable.
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Wow I thought Texans would be proud of their women and mount a defense like there's nothing like a woman from Texas.

Well looks like Chicago and Minneapolis have the most support.

I will say this holds true to me. I went to a public college that had the most out of state students of any school in America.

From my experience of all my friends and acquaintances there sums it up:

East Coast & New England - great senses of humor probably the best, assholes/snide, rush conversations, want to get to a point, overvalue wit, very into keeping it real and in your face and dare I say overly logical, extremely loyal once they become your friend though and would go to the gates of hell (men), take or leave it attitude, also a decent amount of shadier unlikeable characters

Southerners - kind, hospitable, trustworthy, charming, warm

Texans - proud, loud, fun - charming but can rub people the wrong way by being too brazen
Oklahoma - backwater Texans God bless them

Midwest (IL, MN, OH, MO etc...) - most down to earth by far could make a true friend after 10 minutes -- I am guessing why this area produces the best wives in the U.S..

Upstate New York / Maine - like a mix of Midwest and New England

Pacific Northwest - emotional, passive agressive, think someone else is an asshole first before trusting them - on the other side some extremely cool, almost too cool and artsy a bit distant...

NorCal - the hippy version of New England people

SoCal - clowns, showy, attention getters, attitudes, get hot girls, friends when it is convenient

Mountain West - hearty, trusting, plain in style and words

Hawaii - absolute kooks and characters, want everyone to be happy - like what would happen if the laid back nature of SoCal had some down to earth Midwest injected into it

Anywhere in Flordia except Gainesville and Jacksonville (which seems more like part of the real South) - fucked up Laugh

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(08-29-2015 07:24 PM)Travesty Wrote:  I mean the compromise is taking a girl from Ukraine and taking her to a more marriage friendly part of the U.S. or another European country.

Many members of this forum will tell you that it is a terrible idea. Bringing a beautiful Ukrainian woman to the USA or London, will 90% of the times result in her dumping you, fast. Unless you are a handsome millionaire. And even then: there always are richer and younger millionaires.

Only solution, apart from living in Ukraine (Kiev is very livable by the way and currently darn cheap), would be to bring her with you to a 2d tier country, where she wouldn't get funny ideas (find Ukrainian chick in Ukraine, bring her to, say Costa Rica or Cambodia or South Africa)
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I do have a quick question... that I think many guys reading will have the same issue.

Ok I have 3 weeks vacation it may be bumped to 4 soon a year. Let's say I don't have the ability to work remote, and I don't have an online business set up yet (boat most guys are in).

Do I spend 1 week each in a country on scouting missions? 1.5 weeks? or 2?

Because when you only get 3 or 4 weeks while working on the way to either a remote gig, online biz, or finding the country you want to work in for an international you only get so much scout time.

What say you all?

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(05-19-2016 12:01 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  If I talk to 100 19 year old girls, at least one of them is getting fucked!

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Is she reacting to me? All pussy, no problems
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(08-29-2015 10:33 PM)Travesty Wrote:  Wow I thought Texans would be proud of their women and mount a defense like there's nothing like a woman from Texas.

For short-term fun yes...to put a ring on it long-term...well...at this stage in my life at least...no

Not to mention Texas is a big state with lots of people and many different breeds. Big city gals here are much different from the small town folk ones

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(08-29-2015 11:02 PM)Travesty Wrote:  I do have a quick question... that I think many guys reading will have the same issue.

Ok I have 3 weeks vacation it may be bumped to 4 soon a year. Let's say I don't have the ability to work remote, and I don't have an online business set up yet (boat most guys are in).

Do I spend 1 week each in a country on scouting missions? 1.5 weeks? or 2?

Because when you only get 3 or 4 weeks while working on the way to either a remote gig, online biz, or finding the country you want to work in for an international you only get so much scout time.

What say you all?

Very interesting question. Ok, considering that:

1- The more time you spend in any country, the more access you'll get to good women (high quality normal women, not pre-pipelined online girls). Because as time passes, you get your bearings, and build up a small social circle, yes even in 3 weeks time, if you are a sociable dude...

2- But, you are thinking : "How will I know that X or Y country is good for me, before committing my 3 weeks of holiday"? Well: by carefully reading this Forum!

So, you do your scouting right here on RooshV forum, and you then decide where to go, and you go there for 3 weeks, so as to build interesting relations and get quality bangs.
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(08-29-2015 10:48 PM)Going strong Wrote:  
(08-29-2015 07:24 PM)Travesty Wrote:  I mean the compromise is taking a girl from Ukraine and taking her to a more marriage friendly part of the U.S. or another European country.

Many members of this forum will tell you that it is a terrible idea. Bringing a beautiful Ukrainian woman to the USA or London, will 90% of the times result in her dumping you, fast. Unless you are a handsome millionaire. And even then: there always are richer and younger millionaires.

Only solution, apart from living in Ukraine (Kiev is very livable by the way and currently darn cheap), would be to bring her with you to a 2d tier country, where she wouldn't get funny ideas (find Ukrainian chick in Ukraine, bring her to, say Costa Rica or Cambodia or South Africa)


This is a misconception and certainly not a rule. This notion is predicated on a rationale that is fear-based. Don't bring this beautiful girl home with you because you will lose her once she gets a sense of her options. Instead go live in some jungle where she will have limited access to others. This is the wrong frame to have, possessed by those who don't have confidence of keeping a quality woman.

Of course we need to exercise caution and good judgment for any kind of marriage, whether she is from the US or abroad. If your frame is fear-based, you are destined to lose her anyway. This is why I advocate that you must develop solid Game in your own country with quality women before looking abroad for a wife. Yes, you can date younger and a bit more attractive in some of these countries, but you are in for a rude awakening if you think you are going to pull a 20 year old 9 in Kiev when you can't even get laid in your own country. Now, a man who is able to pull quality in his own country and others, who has high value, will not fear losing a girl he decides to bring back to his own country.
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(08-30-2015 08:55 AM)Dantes Wrote:  
(08-29-2015 10:48 PM)Going strong Wrote:  
(08-29-2015 07:24 PM)Travesty Wrote:  I mean the compromise is taking a girl from Ukraine and taking her to a more marriage friendly part of the U.S. or another European country.

Many members of this forum will tell you that it is a terrible idea. Bringing a beautiful Ukrainian woman to the USA or London, will 90% of the times result in her dumping you, fast. Unless you are a handsome millionaire. And even then: there always are richer and younger millionaires.

Only solution, apart from living in Ukraine (Kiev is very livable by the way and currently darn cheap), would be to bring her with you to a 2d tier country, where she wouldn't get funny ideas (find Ukrainian chick in Ukraine, bring her to, say Costa Rica or Cambodia or South Africa)


This is a misconception and certainly not a rule. This notion is predicated on a rationale that is fear-based. Don't bring this beautiful girl home with you because you will lose her once she gets a sense of her options. Instead go live in some jungle where she will have limited access to others. This is the wrong frame to have, possessed by those who don't have confidence of keeping a quality woman.

Of course we need to exercise caution and good judgment for any kind of marriage, whether she is from the US or abroad. If your frame is fear-based, you are destined to lose her anyway. This is why I advocate that you must develop solid Game in your own country with quality women before looking abroad for a wife. Yes, you can date younger and a bit more attractive in some of these countries, but you are in for a rude awakening if you think you are going to pull a 20 year old 9 in Kiev when you can't even get laid in your own country. Now, a man who is able to pull quality in his own country and others, who has high value, will not fear losing a girl he decides to bring back to his own country.

What I highlighted (in bold) in your post, is undoubtedly excellent, golden advice.

Concerning the Ukrainian women, well, the situation is complicated. How to say it?:

I would not be afraid to bring back home in my first world country, a very beautiful, say Colombian, Chilean, Filipina, Romanian, Polish woman... But, a pretty cunning Ukrainian HB8 or moreDodgy... She would be too cold-blooded, intelligent, strong-willed, and... sharkish, in all likelyhood. I would not trust her, even if I am indeed confident. Not an Ukrainian girl.
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(08-30-2015 09:25 AM)Going strong Wrote:  
(08-30-2015 08:55 AM)Dantes Wrote:  
(08-29-2015 10:48 PM)Going strong Wrote:  
(08-29-2015 07:24 PM)Travesty Wrote:  I mean the compromise is taking a girl from Ukraine and taking her to a more marriage friendly part of the U.S. or another European country.

Many members of this forum will tell you that it is a terrible idea. Bringing a beautiful Ukrainian woman to the USA or London, will 90% of the times result in her dumping you, fast. Unless you are a handsome millionaire. And even then: there always are richer and younger millionaires.

Only solution, apart from living in Ukraine (Kiev is very livable by the way and currently darn cheap), would be to bring her with you to a 2d tier country, where she wouldn't get funny ideas (find Ukrainian chick in Ukraine, bring her to, say Costa Rica or Cambodia or South Africa)


This is a misconception and certainly not a rule. This notion is predicated on a rationale that is fear-based. Don't bring this beautiful girl home with you because you will lose her once she gets a sense of her options. Instead go live in some jungle where she will have limited access to others. This is the wrong frame to have, possessed by those who don't have confidence of keeping a quality woman.

Of course we need to exercise caution and good judgment for any kind of marriage, whether she is from the US or abroad. If your frame is fear-based, you are destined to lose her anyway. This is why I advocate that you must develop solid Game in your own country with quality women before looking abroad for a wife. Yes, you can date younger and a bit more attractive in some of these countries, but you are in for a rude awakening if you think you are going to pull a 20 year old 9 in Kiev when you can't even get laid in your own country. Now, a man who is able to pull quality in his own country and others, who has high value, will not fear losing a girl he decides to bring back to his own country.

What I highlighted (in bold) in your post, is undoubtedly excellent, golden advice.

Concerning the Ukrainian women, well, the situation is complicated. How to say it?:

I would not be afraid to bring back home in my first world country, a very beautiful, say Colombian, Chilean, Filipina, Romanian, Polish woman... But, a pretty cunning Ukrainian HB8 or moreDodgy... She would be too cold-blooded, intelligent, strong-willed, and... sharkish, in all likelyhood. I would not trust her, even if I am indeed confident. Not an Ukrainian girl.

Going Strong,

Point taken

One needs quite a bit of experience with the country and culture of Ukraine before such a consideration. Ukrainian girls are always a few steps ahead of you in the chess match.
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(08-30-2015 09:36 AM)Dantes Wrote:  Ukrainian girls are always a few steps ahead of you in the chess match.

Even Roosh I think would agree on that...

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No doubt what Dantes says is true about fear based behavior.

To me, you never know, no matter how awesome you are with women etc. Shit happens.

So just make sure you do what you can to protect your financial assets. She starts getting too nosy about that shit bounce her.

If your heart is torn apart you can always come to RVF and start sorting your life out.

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Actually Russians/Ukies are the worst o bring back. Here is the problem. They play the long game. So they will suck you in and then you bring them back. Problem is they already have calculated OPTIONS in case things go to hell.

It doesn't help that their own media educates them to play the game. It also doesn't help that MOST large cities in America has a Russian church group where the church members whisper constantly in their ear how they are NOT being treated right by their American man and that they need a Russian man.

Then you have the "5 year" plan syndrome. Although they live in the moment, MOST of them can struggle because they are hopeless romantics. They were educated that there will be constant improvements.

So what happens is you move to an area where homes cost 300k on average and they expect you to get the home for 350k. After all you have to be BETTER than the neighbors.

One day after shopping on the way home you pass an area with 1 million dollar homes. Your wife gets into a fight about why you don't have a million dollar home. Although she knows you cant afford it she still insults you for not beingf a man and getting one. She wants to know that YOUA will do everything to make this dream come true , within a few years.

A few years goes by , you move into a million dollar home. She then complains why you don't have a 3 million dollar home with a pool.

This cycle repeats itself! They will always measure themselves based on who has more. They will cheat on you for revenge for not being a real man. They will cheat with the guy who lives in a trailer park who seems like he will be on a "5 yr" plan. Russian girls always look to what they don't have, NEVER enjoying what they do have.

Your PUA game of cocky comments, and demonstrating value isn't going to be a turn on. She doesn't care how many people you know. She cares more about how many people are envious and are jealous of her!

IMO it is much easier with a non white because you can have white god factor. That is value!
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Can anyone discuss the differences between Ukrainian and Russian girls for LTR?

From what I've gathered Russian women are more intelligent but it seems like Ukrainians are more cunning. Accurate? Is one culture more loyal in general?

I'm specifically interested in knowing if Greek Kamaki's assertion that Slavs, and I think he was referring specifically to Russians having a win-lose mentality and how that may affect dynamics in a LTR.
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My experience with slavs (at least Ukranians and Russians) has shown me even if they might be better than western european girls for an LTR; if things get dangerous, they will also be MUCH MORE dangerous.... I would group them in the "to bang" bin... Big Grin

And even though I've only been to the US once I can imagine the hassle it could be to bring them to the US of A... Especially if it's a girl from a larger city. Also, the hotter they are, the more dangerous too..

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(08-30-2015 11:23 AM)TheThinker Wrote:  Can anyone discuss the differences between Ukrainian and Russian girls for LTR?

From what I've gathered Russian women are more intelligent but it seems like Ukrainians are more cunning. Accurate? Is one culture more loyal in general?

I'm specifically interested in knowing if Greek Kamaki's assertion that Slavs, and I think he was referring specifically to Russians having a win-lose mentality and how that may affect dynamics in a LTR.

I enjoyed GK's posts a great deal but just take it all with a grain of salt.

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(08-29-2015 10:48 PM)Going strong Wrote:  
(08-29-2015 07:24 PM)Travesty Wrote:  I mean the compromise is taking a girl from Ukraine and taking her to a more marriage friendly part of the U.S. or another European country.

Many members of this forum will tell you that it is a terrible idea. Bringing a beautiful Ukrainian woman to the USA or London, will 90% of the times result in her dumping you, fast. Unless you are a handsome millionaire. And even then: there always are richer and younger millionaires.

Only solution, apart from living in Ukraine (Kiev is very livable by the way and currently darn cheap), would be to bring her with you to a 2d tier country, where she wouldn't get funny ideas (find Ukrainian chick in Ukraine, bring her to, say Costa Rica or Cambodia or South Africa)

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(08-30-2015 01:08 PM)offthereservation Wrote:  
(08-29-2015 10:48 PM)Going strong Wrote:  
(08-29-2015 07:24 PM)Travesty Wrote:  I mean the compromise is taking a girl from Ukraine and taking her to a more marriage friendly part of the U.S. or another European country.

Many members of this forum will tell you that it is a terrible idea. Bringing a beautiful Ukrainian woman to the USA or London, will 90% of the times result in her dumping you, fast. Unless you are a handsome millionaire. And even then: there always are richer and younger millionaires.

Only solution, apart from living in Ukraine (Kiev is very livable by the way and currently darn cheap), would be to bring her with you to a 2d tier country, where she wouldn't get funny ideas (find Ukrainian chick in Ukraine, bring her to, say Costa Rica or Cambodia or South Africa)

You just gave me an idea.......... Strip

I guess some Kievan hottie is going to think someone is bringing her to PR (US territoryBanana), but instead, will end up in DRAngryConfused... ?

That would be a genius move... having an Ukrainian HB9 with you, drinking daiquiris topless on a caribbean beach, but no way for her to ditch you. She better behave or you ditch her, and she ends up stuck in DR with no Spanish... is this your idea?
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(08-30-2015 02:04 PM)Going strong Wrote:  
(08-30-2015 01:08 PM)offthereservation Wrote:  
(08-29-2015 10:48 PM)Going strong Wrote:  
(08-29-2015 07:24 PM)Travesty Wrote:  I mean the compromise is taking a girl from Ukraine and taking her to a more marriage friendly part of the U.S. or another European country.

Many members of this forum will tell you that it is a terrible idea. Bringing a beautiful Ukrainian woman to the USA or London, will 90% of the times result in her dumping you, fast. Unless you are a handsome millionaire. And even then: there always are richer and younger millionaires.

Only solution, apart from living in Ukraine (Kiev is very livable by the way and currently darn cheap), would be to bring her with you to a 2d tier country, where she wouldn't get funny ideas (find Ukrainian chick in Ukraine, bring her to, say Costa Rica or Cambodia or South Africa)

You just gave me an idea.......... Strip

I guess some Kievan hottie is going to think someone is bringing her to PR (US territoryBanana), but instead, will end up in DRAngryConfused... ?

That would be a genius move... having an Ukrainian HB9 with you, drinking daiquiris topless on a caribbean beach, but no way for her to ditch you. She better behave or you ditch her, and she ends up stuck in DR with no Spanish... is this your idea?

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I have posted on this topic before. I know several guys that married Ukrainians/Russians and brought them back. Many of them are still married, however the geography of where they brought the girl back was key. The guys who were good looking, successful (at least moderately), strong local connections (respected), and brought their Ukrainian hottie back to Oklahoma City or Omaha were okay. This is because they brought them back to a family oriented place where as men they were in the top tier element of society. They had alpha like qualities and they knew the game. They had the pre-nuptial agreement and covered themselves the best they could. 2-3 kids later I am sure that the Ukrainian wives were still weighing their options but they probably concluded that it would be tough to move up on the status/money scale. Wealthy, physically fit, international type guys with style are in short supply in corn country. Those couples appear happy and appear to still be in good shape. However, I agree with Jim it is one hell of a risk.

The guys that brought smoking hot Ukrainians/Russians back to places like Dallas and Scottsdale and infused them into the upscale social scene were fucked. What Jim says is right on. The guy I knew in Dallas had his wife corrupted by the local Orthodox Church and he was done. The interesting thing was she was the least attractive of all of the Ukrainian imports.
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(08-30-2015 07:17 PM)cowboy Wrote:  2-3 kids later I am sure that the Ukrainian wives were still weighing their options but they probably concluded that it would be tough to move up on the status/money scale. Wealthy, physically fit, international type guys with style are in short supply in corn country. Those couples appear happy and appear to still be in good shape. However, I agree with Jim it is one hell of a risk.

Ok well if this is even a half truth really... do you want life partner that is constantly thinking about moving up like that?

The FSU divorce rates are high... well you probably don't have the parents and family shaming the girl to keep her in check when their relationship lives have always been in shambles.

Again though guys are thinking if I bring something back I am dumb enough to bring something I couldn't lock down here.

That's why in my OP I said I'd aim for low to mid 7 especially if I was bringing them back.

I'd only go for an 8 if I decided to live in a foreign country permanently where my white American factor and relative wealth give me that extra edge compared to local competition.

Hence why I think logically somewhere like Vietnam or Taiwan is a better long term pick for a tall pale white motherfucker like me, whether I import or not. Also am I not blessed for thinking Asians can be extremely attractive as a white guy? I mean it seems like a no brainer on the brownie points you score and combined with their sense of loyalty and family, and more traditional gender roles.

It feels like FSU is playing with M-80's. I can do that here in the U.S. why leave? This is one of the biggest risks in life. It isn't a mini LTR I am after. Time will tell.

Now if I already had a kid that was grown up and my relationship went to shit with the mom, FSU by the sound of it starts looking pretty amazing.

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