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Not much to add to the great advice you have received.

One thing though - you should actually visit places before you rule them out.

Philippines is a polluted shithole? You have gotta be kidding me! This country has some of the best nature you can experience. I agree on the bad quality though for the most part, not to mention you have to do some hardcore filtering.

Japan and its weird culture? Nah, that is mostly media hype. Your average person is pretty boring. But the women are some of the most feminine on the planet and there is practically zero gold-digging risk.

Also, you liked Taiwan. Well it's pretty similar to Japan in many ways. I should add that Taiwanese women tend to go sexless after marriage too. Ask some expats there! It's more of an East Asian thing than a Japanese thing per se.

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(08-31-2015 01:55 AM)dreambig Wrote:  Not much to add to the great advice you have received.

One thing though - you should actually visit places before you rule them out.

Philippines is a polluted shithole? You have gotta be kidding me! This country has some of the best nature you can experience. I agree on the bad quality though for the most part, not to mention you have to do some hardcore filtering.

Japan and its weird culture? Nah, that is mostly media hype. Your average person is pretty boring. But the women are some of the most feminine on the planet and there is practically zero gold-digging risk.

Also, you liked Taiwan. Well it's pretty similar to Japan in many ways. I should add that Taiwanese women tend to go sexless after marriage too. Ask some expats there! It's more of an East Asian thing than a Japanese thing per se.

Japanese women are the most feminine! HAHAHA. Not after marriage baby. After marriage they are the worst ball breakers on the planet.

If you guys are really so serious about wife-hunting, you should start looking behind the facade that women give off before getting married. Many overseas women, Russian and Asian included, are only submissive till they get married. You gotta be a detective and get behind that BS curtain.

Again my favorite are middle american girls. They just are what they are. But they get fat.
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(08-31-2015 11:39 AM)MrLemon Wrote:  Japanese women are the most feminine! HAHAHA. Not after marriage baby. After marriage they are the worst ball breakers on the planet.

If you guys are really so serious about wife-hunting, you MUST start looking behind the facade that women give off before getting married. Many overseas women, Russian and Asian included, are only submissive till they get married then they are horrid. You gotta be a detective and get behind that BS curtain that women project.

Again my favorite are middle american girls. They just are what they are.

Specifically what clues do you look for to get behind that facade they put out before marriage?
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(08-31-2015 11:43 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  
(08-31-2015 11:39 AM)MrLemon Wrote:  Japanese women are the most feminine! HAHAHA. Not after marriage baby. After marriage they are the worst ball breakers on the planet.

If you guys are really so serious about wife-hunting, you MUST start looking behind the facade that women give off before getting married. Many overseas women, Russian and Asian included, are only submissive till they get married then they are horrid. You gotta be a detective and get behind that BS curtain that women project.

Again my favorite are middle american girls. They just are what they are.

Specifically what clues do you look for to get behind that facade they put out before marriage?

Look at how their moms treat their dads.
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(08-31-2015 11:39 AM)MrLemon Wrote:  
(08-31-2015 01:55 AM)dreambig Wrote:  Not much to add to the great advice you have received.

One thing though - you should actually visit places before you rule them out.

Philippines is a polluted shithole? You have gotta be kidding me! This country has some of the best nature you can experience. I agree on the bad quality though for the most part, not to mention you have to do some hardcore filtering.

Japan and its weird culture? Nah, that is mostly media hype. Your average person is pretty boring. But the women are some of the most feminine on the planet and there is practically zero gold-digging risk.

Also, you liked Taiwan. Well it's pretty similar to Japan in many ways. I should add that Taiwanese women tend to go sexless after marriage too. Ask some expats there! It's more of an East Asian thing than a Japanese thing per se.

Japanese women are the most feminine! HAHAHA. Not after marriage baby. After marriage they are the worst ball breakers on the planet.

That's a bit harsh. What about Jewish women? Laugh

Japanese women may be many negative things, but confrontational they are not. The decent ones are extremely domestic, anti-careerist, anti-feminist and always put family first. That places them far, far ahead of most Anglosphere women. And yes I'd define those traits as distinctly feminine.

The sexless tendency is not absolute destiny, but rather something that you need to avoid in advance. Game is required for handling these women.

I know plenty of guys in solid marriages with Japanese women and others in very bad ones. The former do what they want, when they want. The latter invariably act like pussies at home and accordingly get punished for it. It's all about the frame and effective communication.

Anyway, I don't want to sound like a broken record on this topic. I've written extensively and repeatedly on J-girls before. Japanese women are a great marriage choice for the right kind of guy. Having a cool temperament and not requiring constant validation and affection may be necessary. These women are definitely not for everyone. I suspect the same guideline applies to most countries and their women.

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OP, I have a few inputs...

1) You're naming three different regions of the world (Europe, LA and SEA). It's good to not be too picky about girls, but seriously, choose a culture/country. Narrow it down asap. You're a white American guy from SoCal? Mexico/Latin America would culturally, linguistically, economically, and logistically work much better for you than Asia or Europe. From So Cal, you're within driving distance of Mexico and cheap, short flights to Mexico and Central America. If you marry a Mexican/Latin wife, you could more easily bring her into Southern California, where there are mostly Mexicans and Mexican stuff and routine vacations to go back and visit her family would be easier than spending $1000 and flying 18 hours to take a family vacation to Vietnam. Also, if you ever move away from So Cal to some other region of the USA, a Mexican/Hispanic wife would be easier to tow with you. Outside of a few of the biggest cities, Asians and Eastern Europeans are very niche ethnicities in most parts of the United States. Mexicans have been an integral part of USA culture for several generations and are now widespread throughout most of the country, urban areas and rural areas. Possibly for this reason and some other reasons, white man-hispanic wife just seems to be more accepted in the USA. Most Hispanic women are mestizo (part white, part american indian) or are even full-stock white/European genealogy, so you and your wife and kids will get less flack from racist haters, both in the US and abroad. I know from experience, white guy with Asian female does get more flack/friction from both families and strangers. White men who get with black women also tend to face similar stigmas. Spanish and Portuguese are Western European languages that are easier to pick up for an English speaker than Russian/Polish/Czech/Serbian let alone Chinese or Vietnamese. These are all the things I considered when I narrowed down my search to Latin America, white or mestizo stock females. It might be different for you, but just some factors to consider.

2) Once you've got your short list, start out by testing the waters with online dating/pipelining in the countries you desire to find a woman. Online is not nearly ideal, but it's a quick and cheap way to at least partly gauge certain regions and you never know, you might luck out and meet someone online (I did). Then, if you can, take a trip to said region and get to know the culture and women a little more, make sure it's what you want. It is very good that you've got the opportunity to go to Colombia for a month. Do work on your Spanish conversation skills (you'll pick up a lot just from chatting with girls you meet online). When you do meet someone (online or on the ground in the country), you'll want to get strong in the language and local customs and spend ample time with the girl and her family/friends in her local area. It's great that you've got the option to work remote, I'm working on ways to get mobile as well since I'm really shackled with my 14 days vacation and can go nowhere else for now than to visit my gf for my days off from my office gig.

3) Try to be somewhat more flexible about age range. Of course we all love a young, attractive, energetic wife, and younger the better; but you'd be surprised how well many foreign women keep themselves together beyond the mid-twenties compared to the girls stateside. My current girlfriend is Mexican, 28, very conservative/religious (I'm actually her first boyfriend), slim, fashionable, and looks youthful and attractive for her age. She has youthful energy and a femininity, passion, and taste for romance that even early-20s American girls do not possess. So don't automatically assume anything >24 is crap. It's a different world in these other countries.

4) Start studying your chosen culture and the Game required to date/court said women. You'll find that it's a noticeably different game with foreign women compared to American women. For example, Latin American women LOVE compliments, they require genuine compliments and a healthy serving of emotional generosity. They also tend to crave passion, romance and they are receptive to strong displays of masculinity, decisive leadership, traditional gender role nuances... These are behaviors that would be considered beta game or politically incorrect in the USA and get you chewed up and spat out by many American women, labeled a pussy or a misogynist. I don't know much about Eastern European and Asian women, but I'm guessing it's also a very different ballgame than when dealing with Americans. These people interpret words, actions, facial expressions, etc. differently, so familiarize yourself with the customs and the necessary game tactics you'll need to lock down a solid frame on one of these girls.

5) Start finding ways now to save $$$ for your travels abroad. Take a peruse through your house/apt, your closet, your garage. Get a bit more minimalist and sell some shit that you simply don't need. There's probably enough useless shit laying around your place that you could sell off on ebay/amazon/craigslist to raise funds for at least one international airfare. I started saving little chunks of change by just packing my lunch to work and eating less fast food. I sold some of my clothes and a few old CDs. Evaluate your lifestyle, there are probably some adjustments you could make that could quickly start saving you some $$$ that can be saved or go to better use later.
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(08-29-2015 05:39 PM)Travesty Wrote:  ^ Yes I doubt anywhere in the U.S. has as many young 7's on average per capita. Great for banging, bad for relationships. That's why I chose to live here up until now.

LA, OC, SD, NYC high end has more talent no doubt. Those places don't seem the best for a wife of course hah.

I want to find a Santa Barbara place (tons of young 7's) without the party girl side haha.

Chicago has quite a few 7's that are actually more my style than NYC 7's. I am more into the Scandanavian, Anglo-Saxon look which Chicago has and dislike the Italian and Jewish looks which NYC I noticed has a ton of.

I will have to visit Minneapolis myself to see what it has to offer.

Chicago does have a lot HB7+, blond-ish, well-dressed white women. Also a good amount of attractive asians, south asians, educated black women, hispanics and eastern euro ethnics. If you have a good job and get a nice place in the Loop or the trendy north side, you'll probably kill it. Lots of young talent in the city looking for fun and lots of bars/restaurants and great public transport make for seductive date nights with excellent logistics. If you wanna be urban American playboy and have job prospects with a sane COL, I cannot think of a better place than Chicago, Illinois.

Just know that Chicago women rival New York women for their snobby-ness and general sex-and-the-city attitudes. Everyone parrots the "Midwest friendliness" cliche and Chicago being some sort of unicorn big city with attractive chicks who are also laid-back and traditional (sarcastically laughs out loud). Roughly speaking, Chicago is a smaller, cleaner, cheaper, user-friendly version of NY. It's a classy, affordable global city with by far the best aesthetic talent in the Midwest, but it still suffers from a lot of same stuff you'll find in other major US metros: city/zip code snobbery approaching level 10 (don't plan on getting many girls from "the city" if you live in the suburbs or less trendy parts of Chi proper), feminism, careerism, dog-eats-dog big city mentality, women always looking for the better option. Chicago has perhaps become the quintessential "SWPL", "Millenial" city; it's a haven for Midwest yuppies who wanna live sex and the city without paying out the ass for it in NY. It's also becoming the go-to/backup plan city for late-20s/30s NY women who are tired of the NY carousel and think moving to Chi will get them a "wholesome Midwestern husband". It has it's trendy/gentrified neighborhoods, ghetto neighborhoods, meh whatever neighborhoods, and mostly family-centric suburbs. I live in and have my roots to the Chicago suburbs, I could go days, weeks without seeing attractive girls out here if I didn't go out of my way to find them. Also, despite Chicagoland's immense ethnic diversity, it's consistently rated amongst the top 3-4 most segregated cities in America, so if you're into dating outside your ethnic group, that's a bit harder to do in Chi than more genuine melting pots like Miami, NY, Texas, California.
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I'm generalizing but Jewish women can be some very mean spirited and goldigging individuals. I say this as someone who was raised Jewish where pressure from parents and synagogues not to intermarry is constantly drilled in to students and children. I dated a few when I lived in NYC and the first question they ask when you meet them is what do you do for a living. I don't now what they are like in Israel as I've never been. I am not a member of any established religion now. I go for non Jewish women now and it's a big difference.
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I'd throw out another area of the US to consider: Kentucky and Tennessee. Nice mix between Southern women and midwestern, less of the southern-belle crap. Kentucky women are still frontier women, they take no crap but they treat their men well. If you want to live in the woods away from civilization and brew beer with your manly bros, they will be perfectly happy to let you be manly while they raise the kids. But you'd better have a job.
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Thread title opportunity missed. Could have been:

"Finding a broad abroad"

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You asked about visiting a church when you travel, yes I highly recommend that, it's easier for you to find girls there who are family oriented.

Not sure why many guys here talk shit about Colombia, actually I think there are many girls there who would be ideal wives, maybe I am comparing them to dominican girls, colombian women on average tend to be more conservative but of course you need to choose wisely.

Marry a girl that both of her parents are still married or only death separated them. I notice that girls whose parents are still married are more likely to stay longer in a marriage and their parents are more likely to convince her to stay in it even if things are not going so well.Also, as stupid as this may sound but I believe marriage values are usually transferable to another generation. A girl who her mother had lived with 3 different men is way less likely to stay in a marriage.

Watch out for women who pretend to say that they love you. Look at their body language if you want to know if they are truly into you, ignore what they say.

Don't treat any girl as if you were looking for a marriage. Treat her as you would treat any other girl, a marriage is something that should be decided based on how your relationship is moving and your chemistry between one another, don't rush to marriage, don''t see it as an accomplishment even though it can be a good thing.

Lastly, I would recommend you to sign up in a local university and attend classes if you are going to be living there. School environments always has a good number of conservative women, attend classes such as medicine classes, where women tend to be more caring and altruistic. You also have more time to truly observe them and they have more time to see your potential.

My book about my almost deadly experience in DR.

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I'm midway through my journey into OPs question and entering the execution phase. Here is some background to my methods:

1. I did a scouting trip that included two countries (Russia/Ukraine) and a few cities to decide where to focus my interest. I also went to a couple of western countries that were not in the running for long term consideration.
2. I had a test relationship of sorts that included a mini relationship with a Russian girl that involved her coming to the USA for 3 weeks to spend time with me. Although I told her we would not work out for marriage at the end of her trip, I gained valuable information about what it is like to have a foreign citizen with you in the USA. Yes, it was short term and not truly indicative of a long term relationship (marriage) but I did learn.
3. I discovered through my journey that it is invaluable to have a reason to be and a longer length of time at a given location. To accomplish this, I enrolled in a major university in Moscow.
4. By reading this forum, I have been encouraged to change my attire and hit the gym hard. For the last 3 months I have changed my wardrobe and obtained a more athletic body. I have built a solid online profile with professional photos.

So here I am OP, joining you on your journey. I leave for one year in Moscow in 48 hours. I will report progress here or on the Russia thread.
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(08-23-2015 01:37 PM)Travesty Wrote:  
(08-23-2015 01:20 PM)Chevalier De Seingalt Wrote:  In the apartment building where I live now in the U.S. there's an engaged couple from Aguascalientes. I've never seen the fiancee not dressed up ultra-nice even when just getting groceries, she's always pleasant and polite with everyone, and when I've been out with them once or twice is always very respectful to her fiance. In other words seems like that perfect wife material, even after having been in the U.S. for several years there's no sign of any Americunt attitude.

I was planning on visiting DF and GDL initially. I haven't researched safety outside major cities in MEX.

Now this seems like it may be a bad idea. DF at least.

Anyone have insight on the current safety of Northern Mex (Monterrey and Hermosillo mentioned by coverdoc)?

Can't speak for northern/rural Mexico, but GDL, DF and other major Mexican cities are fairly safe if you stick to the city centers, touristic spots, and middle/upper class neighborhoods. In other words, it's not to different from a major US city. Good neighborhoods, bad neighborhoods.

My girlfriend is from GDL. It's a cool city, more user-friendly than DF and a better representation of genuine Mexican culture than the more international DF. The big cities in Mexico all have more western-savvy/first-world lifestyle Mexicans. This is a plus in that you don't have to worry as much about getting scammed as you would if you looked in the poor, rural areas; but you also have to beware of the growing liberal/secular/materialistic values in many of these urban Mexican women. My girlfriend complains to me about most of her university friends being liberal/agnostic, promiscuous, into drugs, don't believe in marriage, etc (sound familiar?). Mexico definitely has some career types, and Mexican university environments are definitely not much different from American universities. Still, even your "fresas" are better looking and probably better quality than your average American female.

It is good that you've got a level head on your shoulders about looks when it comes to finding a serious life partner. I wasn't terribly impressed with the aesthetic talent of Guadalajara, nor with Tijuana/Ensenada. Mexico rivals the US for obesity rates. A lot of girls even in Guadalajara look visually interchangeable with your average Chicana hood-rat in Chicago, Los Angeles, Houston... Still, with a little spit and elbow grease, I'm sure you can find a quality 6-7, there's also a good variety of heritage/genes in GDL: mestizo, castizo, white/european. Still, if you're looking for a bigger percentage of slim, good-looking 7+ women, Colombia I hear is noticeably better.
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I wrote this in another thread but I think it's appropriate here or for anyone considering getting married or how to choose a wife


http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-49934-...pid1096998

(08-24-2015 02:14 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  The one quality I think is essential for any girl to have as a LTR candidate is what I call "the happy gene". Is her natural equilibrium an upbeat / happy /laughs easily kind of demeanor ? Or is she prone to states of moroseness/crabbiness or acerbity that needs to be actively entertained/stimulated into being "happy"?

Before I knew better I exhausted a lot of time, money and energy on "sourpussy" because they were hot. I spent 5 years and I dont know how much money on one because she was smoking (tall blond bikini/ lingerie model) before I had enough and pulled the plug

If a girl doesn't have that "happy gene"...she's not long for my world anymore. If there was only piece of advice I could give a guy thinking about wifeing up,,,make sure she has that quality

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Love this thread, plenty of great advice by several guys on here.

(08-24-2015 02:14 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  If a girl doesn't have that "happy gene"...she's not long for my world anymore. If there was only piece of advice I could give a guy thinking about wifeing up,,,make sure she has that quality

Totally agree, a few months ago I was with one of the prettiest girls I have ever been with, if not the prettiest and at first I was planning on making it a long term/more serious thing just because she was so pretty but she was the most humorless, boring, ultra sensitive, crabby, "sourpussy" (love this word) girl I've ever met. I couldn't stand her at all and it only lasted a few weeks. A happy girl is just so much better.
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Here's a post I made about what to look for in a wife

(03-11-2015 01:41 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  Indian culture is very red-pill when it comes to choosing the ideal wife, here’s some bare basics of what a wife should be like. A lot of this stuff is universal to all Asian cultures.
  • She must be physically attractive, young, and of fertile age
  • She cannot be divorced - If she's had one divorce, she may be willing to go through another one
  • She cannot be a single mother – A man shouldn’t be raising somebody else’s kids
  • She shouldn’t smoke, drink or do drugs
  • She must respect her parents - a sign of class and good manners
  • Her parents are not divorced – If her parents are divorced, she might think about it too
  • Her siblings are not divorced - If any of her siblings are divorced, she might think about it too. They have to be in stable marriages.
  • She cooks and cleans for her family
  • She’s a virgin – this is to make sure she hasn’t ridden the cock carousel
  • She wants children and she’s willing to give up work to raise children – her career comes second to family life
  • She has good manners and is well spoken
  • She cannot come from a family where anybody has been to prison – this is a sign of shitty family
  • She must respect her future husband's close and extended family
  • She must always keep any issues with her future husband and family “in house”, and not gossip about it to others since this is disrespectful
  • She must treat her future husband well. Be nice to him and cook for him
  • She must treat any guests that come to the house well. Offer them drinks and food.
Ignoring the virgin requirement (which is almost impossible in this day and age) - how many western women could meet even half of the above?!

I'm banging a Chinese-American woman right now who was raised very traditionally. Her mother told her that she must cook for all guests, serve them, and then eat last. Again, how many western women would do that?!
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(09-01-2015 05:36 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  Here's a post I made about what to look for in a wife

Good post. I like how you list the concrete things to look for in a wife, rather than the "intangibles" discussed often.
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(08-24-2015 02:14 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  If a girl doesn't have that "happy gene"...she's not long for my world anymore. If there was only piece of advice I could give a guy thinking about wifeing up,,,make sure she has that quality

I met a Korean-American lawyer a few days ago for a coffee, and whilst she was perfectly pleasant she was very serious most of the time. I managed to get her laughing but it was bit of an effort. I’d rather be around women who are in a pleasant state of mind, rather than me having to try to put a smile on their face.

She asked me if “Straight Outta Compton” covered their misogyny and I mentally nexted her after that. I’ve no time for SJW bullshit. When she said goodbye she shook my fucking hand, which to me shows that she’s a pretty passionless person. I usually get a hug when a woman says goodbye. I’m almost certain she’s a dead fish in bed.
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(08-31-2015 05:37 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Thread title opportunity missed. Could have been:

"Finding a broad abroad"

I was finally waiting for someone to play on the title. I thought it would be like page 1 or 2.Idea

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(05-19-2016 12:01 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  If I talk to 100 19 year old girls, at least one of them is getting fucked!

WestIndianArchie Wrote:Am I reacting to her? No pussy, all problems
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Is she reacting to me? All pussy, no problems
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I will have to say the guys warning about falling too easily I am a pretty cold fucker when it comes to love and trust. I got burned badly early in my dating life do to my own doing which has set me. In fact I need to change to be more open to dating seriously in general. I've dated a stripper, drug/alcoholic model wannabe, molly rave girls into the drug scene, alcoholics. Never was dumb enough to get too involved with any of them, never lost money or friends over bitches. I'd sure always hear the drama these chicks had gone through with their other guys.

Also dated a few good girls as well who unfortunately have been just quite not good enough looking or a tad too bland to be mother of my children material.

It's a blue moon event for me to get excited and tell my family or friends about how cool or great a new girl has been. Been this way my whole life.

I guess I will be looking out more for the good girl front abroad. I think I'm experienced enough to not get blindsided easily.

I have heard quite a few reports about Mexico that talk about low average quality and fat often unless you find the right venue or right social circle. I'll have to see for myself.

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(05-19-2016 12:01 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  If I talk to 100 19 year old girls, at least one of them is getting fucked!

WestIndianArchie Wrote:Am I reacting to her? No pussy, all problems
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Is she reacting to me? All pussy, no problems
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(09-01-2015 06:06 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  
(08-24-2015 02:14 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  If a girl doesn't have that "happy gene"...she's not long for my world anymore. If there was only piece of advice I could give a guy thinking about wifeing up,,,make sure she has that quality

I met a Korean-American lawyer a few days ago for a coffee, and whilst she was perfectly pleasant she was very serious most of the time. I managed to get her laughing but it was bit of an effort. I’d rather be around women who are in a pleasant state of mind, rather than me having to try to put a smile on their face.

She asked me if “Straight Outta Compton” covered their misogyny and I mentally nexted her after that. I’ve no time for SJW bullshit. When she said goodbye she shook my fucking hand, which to me shows that she’s a pretty passionless person. I usually get a hug when a woman says goodbye. I’m almost certain she’s a dead fish in bed.

Just cause she aint LTR material doesn't mean she can't be an anger fuck target.

I remember one chick ago I went out with years ago. First date she starts talking all kinds of nonsense but she had a great body and phenomenal real tits.

In particular she starts telling me about some poor chode that she went out with once or twice. She was making fun of the poor fucknugget because he fell in love with her after two dates and no bangs , started calling her, even wrote her a letter.

Basically she was, apparently unknowingly, telling me that she was a cold heartless cunt that was full of herself. I knew right away this girl was only going to be a cum pocket for me...banged her out 1/2 dozen times. Last couple times I only let her blow me and didn't fuck her. After I stopped returning her calls she one day showed up with a tray of home baked cookies. Didn't really occur to me right away but I should of said "Now you know how what's-his-name (chode) guy felt"

I never start banging a chick with the expectation of an LTR or not. There is something however liberating about banging a chick you know you'll never take seriously and even dislike.

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The Korean-American was never a potential LTR, she was always a pump and dump. I get the sense that she would have been a lot of work to get into the bedroom and once we were there it probably would be crap anyway. She was also a pretty strict Catholic, so that might have been hoops to jump through. I'd rather next a woman than take her out a couple of times to get a shitty bang.

The whole thing was no big deal, I've got a couple of more dates lined up over the next few days.

This reminds me - just because a woman is religious that doesn’t necessarily mean she’s wife material. I used to see a Korean-American woman who would sleep over at my place on a Saturday and then visit church on Sunday morning just after I had unloaded inside her (she was on the pill). There are women who hamsterise their sluttiness by going to church every Sunday.
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(08-31-2015 06:19 PM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  I'm midway through my journey into OPs question and entering the execution phase. Here is some background to my methods:

1. I did a scouting trip that included two countries (Russia/Ukraine) and a few cities to decide where to focus my interest. I also went to a couple of western countries that were not in the running for long term consideration.
2. I had a test relationship of sorts that included a mini relationship with a Russian girl that involved her coming to the USA for 3 weeks to spend time with me. Although I told her we would not work out for marriage at the end of her trip, I gained valuable information about what it is like to have a foreign citizen with you in the USA. Yes, it was short term and not truly indicative of a long term relationship (marriage) but I did learn.
3. I discovered through my journey that it is invaluable to have a reason to be and a longer length of time at a given location. To accomplish this, I enrolled in a major university in Moscow.
4. By reading this forum, I have been encouraged to change my attire and hit the gym hard. For the last 3 months I have changed my wardrobe and obtained a more athletic body. I have built a solid online profile with professional photos.

So here I am OP, joining you on your journey. I leave for one year in Moscow in 48 hours. I will report progress here or on the Russia thread.

I'm glad my amazing posts in the delete thread and NFL thread helped you so much. But I cannot take all the credit. There are other amazing contributors on this board besides myself Laugh

Setting aside my stupid comments above, that is awesome that you have made the commitment. Can't wait to read what you share with us about your adventure.

If time ever allows, I'd be curious what you learned during those three weeks with that one Russian lady.

I guess your flight is today, so safe travels.

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(08-30-2015 11:15 AM)jimukr104 Wrote:  Actually Russians/Ukies are the worst o bring back. Here is the problem. They play the long game. So they will suck you in and then you bring them back. Problem is they already have calculated OPTIONS in case things go to hell.

It doesn't help that their own media educates them to play the game. It also doesn't help that MOST large cities in America has a Russian church group where the church members whisper constantly in their ear how they are NOT being treated right by their American man and that they need a Russian man.

Then you have the "5 year" plan syndrome. Although they live in the moment, MOST of them can struggle because they are hopeless romantics. They were educated that there will be constant improvements.

So what happens is you move to an area where homes cost 300k on average and they expect you to get the home for 350k. After all you have to be BETTER than the neighbors.

One day after shopping on the way home you pass an area with 1 million dollar homes. Your wife gets into a fight about why you don't have a million dollar home. Although she knows you cant afford it she still insults you for not beingf a man and getting one. She wants to know that YOUA will do everything to make this dream come true , within a few years.

A few years goes by, you move into a million dollar home. She then complains why you don't have a 3 million dollar home with a pool.

This cycle repeats itself! They will always measure themselves based on who has more. They will cheat on you for revenge for not being a real man. They will cheat with the guy who lives in a trailer park who seems like he will be on a "5 yr" plan. Russian girls always look to what they don't have, NEVER enjoying what they do have.

Your PUA game of cocky comments, and demonstrating value isn't going to be a turn on. She doesn't care how many people you know. She cares more about how many people are envious and are jealous of her!

IMO it is much easier with a non white because you can have white god factor. That is value!

Geez...way to "tell it like it is" and kill my buzz jimukr!! Laugh

I don't think you can bring 'em back really. The US dating / marriage culture is toxic and heavily skewed in favor of women on the social and legal side of things. Every woman eventually gets corrupted on some level. "Divorce rape" is real, tangible and terribly destructive financially & emotionally from what I've seen.

Dalrock did a recent piece on how bad it's gotten with US women in terms of their "marriagabilty" (or rather lack thereof) that I think everyone should read just to get a better sense of the real situation:

Losing Control of the Narrative

Most of all, the "I can have it all" & "you don't need a man!" narrative that American foists on women is utterly degenerate and makes marriage in the US an incredibly risky proposition for men.

So I just think that all the guys in this thread saying "check out the Midwest or Chicago or wherever" are chasing unicorns and there just are not enough marriageable women left anymore in the US in the 20-30 age range. Sad to say but Dalrock nailed it. Sure there are some exceptions, but I don't think Travesty wants to move to Oklahoma City or Des Moines or wherever for a year to find one of the very few "diamonds in the rough" there (and then have her turn into a manatee post 30 and tell him to just "deal with or or get a divorce").

And "bringing one back" particularly aint' going to work with Russians /Ukrainians these days as jim wrote, not unless you've got great Russian language skills and can basically blend into the culture. Russians in particular are no longer all that impressed with America now, will hate being away from their mothers and families and will hightail it to the local Russian asap the minute things break down.

(08-30-2015 11:37 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  I enjoyed GK's posts a great deal but just take it all with a grain of salt.

Heh that's putting it mildly SSS! Smile

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(08-30-2015 07:17 PM)cowboy Wrote:  2-3 kids later I am sure that the Ukrainian wives were still weighing their options but they probably concluded that it would be tough to move up on the status/money scale. Wealthy, physically fit, international type guys with style are in short supply in corn country. Those couples appear happy and appear to still be in good shape. However, I agree with Jim it is one hell of a risk.

Ok well if this is even a half truth really... do you want life partner that is constantly thinking about moving up like that?

The FSU divorce rates are high... well you probably don't have the parents and family shaming the girl to keep her in check when their relationship lives have always been in shambles.

Again though guys are thinking if I bring something back I am dumb enough to bring something I couldn't lock down here.

That's why in my OP I said I'd aim for low to mid 7 especially if I was bringing them back.

I'd only go for an 8 if I decided to live in a foreign country permanently where my white American factor and relative wealth give me that extra edge compared to local competition.

Hence why I think logically somewhere like Vietnam or Taiwan is a better long term pick for a tall pale white motherfucker like me, whether I import or not. Also am I not blessed for thinking Asians can be extremely attractive as a white guy? I mean it seems like a no brainer on the brownie points you score and combined with their sense of loyalty and family, and more traditional gender roles.

It feels like FSU is playing with M-80's. I can do that here in the U.S. why leave? This is one of the biggest risks in life. It isn't a mini LTR I am after. Time will tell.

Now if I already had a kid that was grown up and my relationship went to shit with the mom, FSU by the sound of it starts looking pretty amazing.

I'm a big fan of the mid-7s or below for marriage and I think Ukraine/Russia offer great value for wives as long as you don't bring 'em back. All the 8+s here know it and are prissy/bitchy about it - maybe not like US girls but in a different way, always rubs me wrong. Would much rather have a sweet nice 7 who's cool and still slim and feminine than some bitchy 8-9, particularly for marriage. I think the pool of "7" talent here is massive and the real sweet spot of the market.

Need to seriously screen for motherly behavior and dedication to family of course.

(09-01-2015 07:07 PM)Travesty Wrote:  It's a blue moon event for me to get excited and tell my family or friends about how cool or great a new girl has been. Been this way my whole life.

Unfortunately it's only going to get worse as you get older re "being impressed" by women. So many add so little value to me other than their pussy - I guess after so many bangs/short-term relationships you just naturally see all their flaws and judge them (which is probably good on the whole, but also takes away the wow factor and really being into a woman, which I kinda miss, even if it was a bs emotion).

That said, if you get a great motherly wife who loves to care for children it should give you a whole new feeling once you settle down a bit and have kids (or so I hear!).

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I try to focus on a few things in a woman. Such as if she can cook, does she show grand respect for me, and how she talks about her family. Its hard enough to find those things as it is so everything else is just fluff.

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