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(07-27-2019 02:12 PM)firenetune Wrote:  It's important to me knows who would be at my side.. Just the keepers stay. It's the same about friendship. The test don't need to be dramatical, you can use little things, but of course I won't write tutorials.

Ah ok, I guess I misunderstood. As a small test, it makes sense.
Just thought, you'd keep Colombian girls pay for your expenses even though an average salary there is around 300-400$.

I've met a girl in Colombia who works 6 days a week in a call center for about 300$, and she wanted to pay as well (even though I invited her to the bar). Of course, I insisted picking up the tab that maybe is like 15-20$ after an evening of drinking.
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(07-27-2019 09:30 AM)Deepdiver Wrote:  So do not underestimate the value of White God Factor

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(07-27-2019 10:08 AM)Kentemo Wrote:  
(07-27-2019 08:44 AM)firenetune Wrote:  [b]the loyalty proof is normally say to the girl after some time that you're broke. One of my cases is with a chica from the interior of Colombia who worked hard to pay my expenses to live with her.


She worked hard to pay your expenses? That's just a dick move, and if that's your criteria of a good girl, no wonder you don't find anyone.

Completely agree. I would never act poor. With no money?

To go broke in a foreign country. That goes against any rules of travel.

Plus I enjoy making money too much. I wouldn't stop to test a woman. Nor would I pretend to be making a meager income or make the same wage as a poor person.

No need to flaunt my money either. That's stupid.

If you have dated and gone out with enough women the truth comes out soon enough. No need to go about these tactics.

With time you notice the signs.

Some may not be self aware or a good judge of others.

But if you can make money then there is a good chance you can judge others. Don't rush into things.

Always know that you are in the "driving seat." Then find a woman that understands that. The rest will come with time.

No need to go broke, That is crazy. Life is way to short to go broke. Plus I would never set the inital scenario that a woman has to take care of me financially.

This would all take way too much time. You could "test" woman way quicker than going broke as a test.

When you date enough you can see and look for the signs and traits of a woman that will stay with you through "thick and thin". Admitedly they are rare but that's why you don't waste time.
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(07-27-2019 02:52 PM)Kentemo Wrote:  Ah ok, I guess I misunderstood. As a small test, it makes sense.
Just thought, you'd keep Colombian girls pay for your expenses even though an average salary there is around 300-400$.

I've met a girl in Colombia who works 6 days a week in a call center for about 300$, and she wanted to pay as well (even though I invited her to the bar). Of course, I insisted picking up the tab that maybe is like 15-20$ after an evening of drinking.

Nice gesture of yours. They make very little money, that's sad. I've met some families (4 people or even more) who survive with 260$ monthly in Brazil.

(07-27-2019 03:02 PM)stpete Wrote:  [quote='Kentemo' pid='2004952' dateline='1564240123']
No need to go broke, That is crazy. Life is way to short to go broke. Plus I would never set the inital scenario that a woman has to take care of me financially.

This would all take way too much time. You could "test" woman way quicker than going broke as a test.

You didn't understood. It's not about literally get broken, it's just say that and see what happens, a bluff. My personal exemple was extreme, probably it made some misunderstood. I consider that you're a smart dude, but there are so many naive men lost. Help them is my intention cuz I've seen so many hard work dudes losing their money and hope.

I already saw women changing complety just after marriage, after visa... the guys were business men, US military, smart people. But anyways they couldn't find the thruth at time. Women can fake for a long time.

I lived in Brazil. That was savage. If you are not ultra-smarter people will eat you alive. 60k homicides annually. Some knowledges that I've learned about social changed my life and they apply for any area, including women. Simple moves make you not waste your time and that's my point.

But in Brazil these same simple moves keeps you alive. A wrong word or actitude can make you robbed, kidnaped or worse. I did this cuz I wanted to deal with the worst scenarios to have extremely resilience, superior social skills, equilibrium and smartness, the brazilian way teached me a lot. Don't recommend it of course. Do you!

Why date a girl for months if in a week can you know her true intentions? Not always you'll see the truth without some pressure. But always you'll see the truth with some pressure

This is what a police lieutenant BOPE said me once (best urban warfare police). I've met smart guys being complety messed up by long fake love.

I lived in a real hell and did well. Don't want to sell nothing, just help some fellas. Who wants to contact me feel free.
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So have anyone here been successful in getting a gf / wife from another country? So I know this depends on the country you live in, as well as the country the girl is from, but suppose you travel to another country for 1-2 months and you meet a girl there, how do you go about getting her back to your country for a tryout visit? Does someone roughly know how it works? You could talk in a general sense or explain how it is for your own country / situation I guess.

What I've been able to gather so far is that you actually have to sponsor /give an invitation for a visitor's visa for her, if it gets accepted she can stay for 90 days or so. When she arrives in your country, she also has to "prove" that she has enough money for the stay as well as the trip back to her home country. If she doesn't have that kind of money, you have to fill out a "guarantee" of some sort, which says that you'll provide for her (+ a few more responsibilities)

I guess my question at this point would be: Does anyone have a clue of what this stuff actually costs? Does sponsoring the visitor's visa cost you money? What about the guarantee? Are there any "big" fees apart from obviously giving her a place to live, food to eat and a plane ticket back? Is there a limitation on the amount of times you can sponsor these visas a year, and the amount of guarantees you can write? Consider this situation as well, you meet 2 quality girls during your 1-2 month trip, and would like to have them both visit you for 3 months. Could you invite the first one first, and when she leaves you invite the next one?
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(08-06-2019 04:56 AM)jackthenerd Wrote:  Is there a limitation on the amount of times you can sponsor these visas a year, and the amount of guarantees you can write?
Yes as what you've been referring to is the fiancée visa which has a 90 day limit ending in marriage or she leaves, you can't sponsor multiple times or at least you can't in the UK.

You wouldn't want to sponsor a variety of girls either, you'd want them to come on a tourist visa and not mention you, they'll get rejected otherwise or your costs shoot up but then you come under closer scrutiny.

I've been through the process for an unmarried partner's visa, I had an ex who I met in the UK, she was from a 3rd country (non-EU) so in order for her to stay (after her current visa expired at the time) we had to submit an application, prove our relationship was subsisting with bills, rental agreements and other shared responsibilities being detailed for the previous 2 years as well as proving our relationship through photos, family and friend's witness statements etc. proving we'd been in a relationship for longer than 2 years prior.

Financially it cost a fortune, I think we'd shelled out close to £10k by the end, the income requirements are straight forward, £18,600 is the minimum yearly amount although if you've got savings of over £60,000 you don't have the salary requirement, it's actually quite a decent financial requirement compared to other countries just the fees are horrendous.

I'd recommend those in the UK use the premium service if you do this, they can check everything over and do it there and then, we didn't and it was rejected first time around as the idiots at the Home Office got her previous residence (she studied in the US prior to coming to the UK) mixed up with her country of origin, we won on appeal but it added £6,000 to the overall fees.

I don't think this is something I'd ever do again, I'd sooner move to her country than do it in the UK, especially in the current climate.
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(08-06-2019 04:56 AM)jackthenerd Wrote:  So have anyone here been successful in getting a gf / wife from another country?

Yes, I bought one off her mom in Thailand. A week of negotiations through an interpreter, they didn't speak any English, I didn't speak any Thai, then lived together for a week to see if we got on, then we married. I sent her to high school, then university, she speaks good English now and I speak bad Thai.

We're still together 10 years later with an 8yo son.
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(08-06-2019 04:56 AM)jackthenerd Wrote:  So have anyone here been successful in getting a gf / wife from another country? So I know this depends on the country you live in, as well as the country the girl is from, but suppose you travel to another country for 1-2 months and you meet a girl there, how do you go about getting her back to your country for a tryout visit? Does someone roughly know how it works? You could talk in a general sense or explain how it is for your own country / situation I guess.

What I've been able to gather so far is that you actually have to sponsor /give an invitation for a visitor's visa for her, if it gets accepted she can stay for 90 days or so. When she arrives in your country, she also has to "prove" that she has enough money for the stay as well as the trip back to her home country. If she doesn't have that kind of money, you have to fill out a "guarantee" of some sort, which says that you'll provide for her (+ a few more responsibilities)

I guess my question at this point would be: Does anyone have a clue of what this stuff actually costs? Does sponsoring the visitor's visa cost you money? What about the guarantee? Are there any "big" fees apart from obviously giving her a place to live, food to eat and a plane ticket back? Is there a limitation on the amount of times you can sponsor these visas a year, and the amount of guarantees you can write? Consider this situation as well, you meet 2 quality girls during your 1-2 month trip, and would like to have them both visit you for 3 months. Could you invite the first one first, and when she leaves you invite the next one?

This is a challenge I have had to consider as well. Typically I would want to date/court her for at least 6 months, probably a year, or something like that, before deciding to marry her, and it is hard to do that if you're living in different countries. And it's hard for me to earn a living going over to a foreign country for 1 year.

One way to get your foreign girlfriend a visa would be to help her get enrolled in a local American college or university. The downside to this is it would be limited to women who speak good English. Also, if she attends a college she would be around a bunch of guys. And then it would be expensive. Maybe a community college would be the way to go.

Also sometimes there are work programs that allows foreigners to come work in the U.S. Sometimes foreign workers come work as nannies or babysitters; they call them "au pairs." I once dated a girl who did this, although she was already here doing that and I didn't set that up for her. The advantage to this is she is working with kids, which is a desirable feminine trait, and is not training to become a strong and independent career-oriented woman or something like that. Also the host family can often provide housing for her and she helps the parents with supervising the kids.

I have considered this because I don't like the idea of a man and woman living together when they aren't married. I imagine it could save money in the short run, but I think having a pure marriage would be more important. Also if the relationship doesn't work out, at least you didn't violate her purity and maintained your own purity.

I have considered either putting an ad on Craigslist or a similar site, or going to some women at a church, or something like that, and telling people that I am bringing a girlfriend over from another country and because I am Christian I don't want to live with her before I'm married. I would then ask them if they are willing to provide her with housing/have a roommate, so that I don't have to live with her while we're not married. I would hope I could find somebody willing to do that.
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(08-11-2019 08:46 AM)BigFellow Wrote:  I have considered either putting an ad on Craigslist or a similar site, or going to some women at a church, or something like that, and telling people that I am bringing a girlfriend over from another country and because I am Christian I don't want to live with her before I'm married. I would then ask them if they are willing to provide her with housing/have a roommate, so that I don't have to live with her while we're not married. I would hope I could find somebody willing to do that.

Good idea and you definitely could. During a recession more people will be renting out rooms in their homes.
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Eastern Europe for sure.
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Damn, so it has been a while since I've checked in on this thread, going off the comments it seems like it is way more complicated than I anticipated....

(08-10-2019 08:03 AM)Salame Wrote:  Yes as what you've been referring to is the fiancée visa which has a 90 day limit ending in marriage or she leaves, you can't sponsor multiple times or at least you can't in the UK.

You wouldn't want to sponsor a variety of girls either, you'd want them to come on a tourist visa and not mention you, they'll get rejected otherwise or your costs shoot up but then you come under closer scrutiny.

But can't you sponsor a tourist visa? Or isn't that a thing? It's just a visitors visa which is the same as fiancee visa? Can't you sponsor a "friend"?. Also here's the thing with the tourist visa though (from what I've seen). When she arrive, doesn't she have to "prove" that she has enough money to survive for the stay plus the plane ticket back?

If you're in a expensive 1st world country and she's from a 3rd world country I don't see how she'd have that kind of money. This can potentially open yourself up to scams (you transfer money to her so that she can prove that she can "survive". At this point she could just ditch you and there it is, scam completed. In some expensive countries the number is quite high as well. Just searched this up for Switzerland right now and you apparently have to "prove" that you have 100 CHF for each day you're there (which is equal to 102 USD). If she's staying for 30 days we're already up to 3k at that point.

This is also why I like the concept of a "guarantee" way better. You don't have to physically give her the money or transfer money to her, opening yourself up to scams, you literally just write a "guarantee" and that's it (from my understanding). You don't have to pay her a penny in that regard, just comply with the guarantee and that's it (plane ticket, house to stay, food and a few more responsibilities).

(08-11-2019 08:46 AM)BigFellow Wrote:  This is a challenge I have had to consider as well. Typically I would want to date/court her for at least 6 months, probably a year, or something like that, before deciding to marry her, and it is hard to do that if you're living in different countries. And it's hard for me to earn a living going over to a foreign country for 1 year.

So much this. It's like you took the words right out of my mouth. This is exactly what I'd like to do as well. I often hear people say to go live in her country or whatever, but that's even more difficult (and annoying). It's already hard enough to land a job in my home country, I can't imagine how hard it would be in a different country where I don't even speak the language. I'd probably get even lower tier jobs in that country and if I'm in the 3rd world I'd potentially be living in shit conditions, with bad healthcare etc.

On top of all of that, if you're privileged enough to live in a 1st world country, part of the "leverage" and "negotation power" we have when wife hunting abroad is literally that a lot of these girls fucking hate their countries. A lot of them wanna leave badly to improve their quality of life. They wanna get out of the shit hole they're stuck in. Apparnetly in Colombia they work 10 hours a day (every single day), that's very different than the 30-40 hour work weeks in Europe (with paid vacation and free healthcare). Apparently there's a record amount of Russians who wants to leave their country. Here's a quote: "Since 2014, the percentage of working-age Russians who say they would like to move has at least tripled, jumping from 14% to 44% among 15- to 29-year-olds" Source: https://news.gallup.com/poll/248249/reco...ussia.aspx

Starting to see my point? Obviously maybe I'm exaggerating a bit, there's probably plenty of colombians, russians, southeast asians or whatever that absolultely love their country, but I feel like if you're willing to moving to their country, you lose some of that x-factor. On top of the quality of life drop you'll be taking, so I just don't feel like this is an option really, but maybe that's just me.
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(08-17-2019 08:47 PM)jackthenerd Wrote:  Damn, so it has been a while since I've checked in on this thread, going off the comments it seems like it is way more complicated than I anticipated....

(08-10-2019 08:03 AM)Salame Wrote:  Yes as what you've been referring to is the fiancée visa which has a 90 day limit ending in marriage or she leaves, you can't sponsor multiple times or at least you can't in the UK.

You wouldn't want to sponsor a variety of girls either, you'd want them to come on a tourist visa and not mention you, they'll get rejected otherwise or your costs shoot up but then you come under closer scrutiny.

But can't you sponsor a tourist visa? Or isn't that a thing? It's just a visitors visa which is the same as fiancee visa? Can't you sponsor a "friend"?. Also here's the thing with the tourist visa though (from what I've seen). When she arrive, doesn't she have to "prove" that she has enough money to survive for the stay plus the plane ticket back?

If you're in a expensive 1st world country and she's from a 3rd world country I don't see how she'd have that kind of money. This can potentially open yourself up to scams (you transfer money to her so that she can prove that she can "survive". At this point she could just ditch you and there it is, scam completed. In some expensive countries the number is quite high as well. Just searched this up for Switzerland right now and you apparently have to "prove" that you have 100 CHF for each day you're there (which is equal to 102 USD). If she's staying for 30 days we're already up to 3k at that point.

This is also why I like the concept of a "guarantee" way better. You don't have to physically give her the money or transfer money to her, opening yourself up to scams, you literally just write a "guarantee" and that's it (from my understanding). You don't have to pay her a penny in that regard, just comply with the guarantee and that's it (plane ticket, house to stay, food and a few more responsibilities).

(08-11-2019 08:46 AM)BigFellow Wrote:  This is a challenge I have had to consider as well. Typically I would want to date/court her for at least 6 months, probably a year, or something like that, before deciding to marry her, and it is hard to do that if you're living in different countries. And it's hard for me to earn a living going over to a foreign country for 1 year.

So much this. It's like you took the words right out of my mouth. This is exactly what I'd like to do as well. I often hear people say to go live in her country or whatever, but that's even more difficult (and annoying). It's already hard enough to land a job in my home country, I can't imagine how hard it would be in a different country where I don't even speak the language. I'd probably get even lower tier jobs in that country and if I'm in the 3rd world I'd potentially be living in shit conditions, with bad healthcare etc.

On top of all of that, if you're privileged enough to live in a 1st world country, part of the "leverage" and "negotation power" we have when wife hunting abroad is literally that a lot of these girls fucking hate their countries. A lot of them wanna leave badly to improve their quality of life. They wanna get out of the shit hole they're stuck in. Apparnetly in Colombia they work 10 hours a day (every single day), that's very different than the 30-40 hour work weeks in Europe (with paid vacation and free healthcare). Apparently there's a record amount of Russians who wants to leave their country. Here's a quote: "Since 2014, the percentage of working-age Russians who say they would like to move has at least tripled, jumping from 14% to 44% among 15- to 29-year-olds" Source: https://news.gallup.com/poll/248249/reco...ussia.aspx

Starting to see my point? Obviously maybe I'm exaggerating a bit, there's probably plenty of colombians, russians, southeast asians or whatever that absolultely love their country, but I feel like if you're willing to moving to their country, you lose some of that x-factor. On top of the quality of life drop you'll be taking, so I just don't feel like this is an option really, but maybe that's just me.

It is important to remember that visa rules vary between countries. I am from an EU country and have noticed that the interpretation of visa rules differ between countries even if they all issue the same Schengen visa. Especially the interpretation of trip funds required differs as you describe. Some countries accept a guarantee from the inviter while some require the applicant to have the funds in their own bank account for the past 3 months prior to the visa application. The amount of funds required also varies between 30-100 €/day depending on each country's guidelines. To make matters even more complicated EU countries seem to be very strict with the applicant's proof of return to their home country. This means that a return flight ticket usually isn't enough. The applicant must show either proof of employment or university (or equivalent) attendance in their home country.

If you still are able to get your girl a visa things will get even more complicated if you decide to get married. It is unlikely that you will be able to get married in Europe on a visitor visa, as if you mention marriage in the visitor visa application the embassy will probably immediately refuse the visa as the wedding will be interpreted as your girl not fulfilling the proof of return to her home country (this is different in the US, EU countries don't have any marriage visa like the US does). On the other hand if your girl applies for a tourist visa instead of a visitor visa she will need to have all the required funds in her own bank account for over 3 months and a precise itinerary including hotel bookings of her upcoming trip.

From a bureaucratic point of view it is usually easier to marry in the girl's home country (as you will probably have visa free entry to her country). However, even after getting married your wife will not get a visitor visa as she still doesn't fulfill the Schengen visa requirement of proof of return. Instead you will need to make a residency permit application, which is slower and more expensive to process than a visitor visa. At least the upside of a residence permit is that it is usually valid for 1 year and can be extended in your country after you finally get your wife there.

Hope that helped.
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