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Been to the cities you mentioned.

If you like thin, tall-ish, white Mexicans then you're in the right spot.

Are you willing to live there? From my experience, the ones we want have no interest in moving to the US.

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^ I don't know because I haven't been. Living abroad for me I think would be less of an issue than for most though. I don't have a sense of home and my work can be done remotely.

Which cities in Mexico have good long term material that would be willing to move to the U.S.?

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(12-09-2015 05:10 PM)Travesty Wrote:  This list was kindly given to me by a member I respect in PM I wanted to share it with others:

Culiacan
Mazatlan
Aguascalientes
Chihuahua
Hermosillo
Guadalajara
Monterrey

As I am new to Mexico and still somewhat of a pussy when it comes to Latin Danger my plan is to hit Monterrey, GDL, then Aguascalientes. From what I gather the others are a little too hot-to-trot for me. I will report back after visiting them. Any thoughts are appreciated.

You should definitely consider Mazatlan. It is a tourist city on the beach, yet is in Sinaloa, which has the best women in Mexico. It also has a lot of short-term rentals. If you skip Mazatlan, you may very well be missing out.
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Quote:Defer non-essential travel to the state of Sinaloa except the city of Mazatlan, where you should exercise caution, particularly late at night and in the early morning. One of Mexico's most powerful criminal organizations is based in the state of Sinaloa, and violent crime rates remain high in many parts of the state. Travel off the toll roads in remote areas of Sinaloa is especially dangerous and should be avoided. We recommend that any travel in Mazatlan be limited to Zona Dorada and the historic town center, as well as direct routes to/from these locations and the airport.

Looks like they say Mazatlan is ok, but watch your ass and stay in safe part of town. I think if I go here it would be fourth in the order so I have the most comfort with Mexico and Spanish. Thanks for the tip.

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(12-09-2015 08:14 PM)Travesty Wrote:  U.S. Travel Dept.

Quote:Defer non-essential travel to the state of Sinaloa except the city of Mazatlan, where you should exercise caution, particularly late at night and in the early morning. One of Mexico's most powerful criminal organizations is based in the state of Sinaloa, and violent crime rates remain high in many parts of the state. Travel off the toll roads in remote areas of Sinaloa is especially dangerous and should be avoided. We recommend that any travel in Mazatlan be limited to Zona Dorada and the historic town center, as well as direct routes to/from these locations and the airport.

Looks like they say Mazatlan is ok, but watch your ass and stay in safe part of town. I think if I go here it would be fourth on the order so I have the most comfort with Mexico and Spanish. Thanks for the tip.

There is a big Canadian expat community there. A few years back, I met a girl whose parents own some restaurants there and I was going to go there to see her, but never made it. I seem to do better with Sinaloa girls than with other Mexicans. If anything, I do better with quality girls in general, than with the average and slightly above average ones. I think the ones in the middle get really suspicious of me/think I'm trying to scam them in some way.
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Been in Moscow for about 3.5 months and I have identified a good girl. She is an 19 YO 8 who I met from social circle (I'm mid 30s). We have been dating now for two months (yes I know it isn't long) and I will attempt to highlight the positives and negatives of my thoughts on her as I only have 6 more months left in Russia and do not want to waste my time here and make sure I'm on the right path. I go back to California for a couple weeks soon, and I'm also interested in my feeling on reverse culture shock. Will I come back to Russia with renewed vigor? I'm feeling complacent after some time here.

Positives: She is young. For me the age gap is uncharted territory. The way she feels is wonderful and something I haven't had in 10 years. She isn't on the internet much, maybe 20 VK and FB friends in total. She maybe has one drink and is drunk, a very healthy girl who goes to the gym 5 times a week. I recently got her a one month pass to my gym, we worked out together and I observed her dedication to staying fit. Her plans for New Years are to stay home with family instead of parties with friends. She spends most of her time talking about family and rarely mentions friends. I am the first boy she has told her parents about, but I'm not sure if her first. I never asked as I don't want to know about past relationships. I make this clear in the beginning to all women I date regularly. She is smart and speaks perfect English. Her father is a prominent Russian government official (he is supportive of the relationship although I have never met him). One day in the morning I told her I wanted sex really bad that day. She told me she couldn't make it. Later that evening she called me and told me how bad she felt that she didn't come. I do think she aims to please. If I tell her to meet me, she usually comes to my location. Lastly, she isn't from Moscow, but moved here in the last 5 years from a smaller city.

Negatives: She is young. How will my family approach this age gap? I have floated it out there, but no one has really recognized her. I also ask her to do things and she seems to be a bit incapable or shy (i.e. get me a dr. to see because i'm sick. it didn't happen.) She never invites me to do anything. She always waits for me to invite or plan an outing or date. When I do, she is almost always available though. Maybe she is extremely submissive? My birthday came and went for the most part and what little we did, I planned. No gift, which I find strange for a Russian girl. Even her best friend gave me something. Outside of her best friend, I have met zero of her friends. I'm mostly worried that when I leave in July of next year there will be no way to continue the relationship as she will have to give up on university to be with me. I think this is too much for her young mind to wrap around but I did introduce the idea to her. I told her to think about what that means and that I would revisit the topic in a few weeks.

Final Thoughts: Even in a much better culture for men than the USA, it is still difficult here to find quality women who meet many of the perimeters I lay out in the positives above. I'm also thinking that someone 21-24 would be more ideal. Someone who either just started working or in the final year of the school program. The funniest thing she has said yet was, "When I first met you, I was scared of you." Angel She must be a good girl.

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(12-11-2015 11:36 AM)The Ligurian Wrote:  ^^ The I was scared of you line is something I heard a few times this summer from girls I saw. I wonder what the deeper meaning of that statement is?

From my understanding, from polish girls, they said this when you are too confident. They are usually surrounded by betas and if suddenly someone with high confidence starts to arrange something, they might be scared.
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(12-11-2015 10:13 AM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  Been in Moscow for about 3.5 months and I have identified a good girl. She is an 19 YO 8 who I met from social circle (I'm mid 30s). We have been dating now for two months (yes I know it isn't long) and I will attempt to highlight the positives and negatives of my thoughts on her as I only have 6 more months left in Russia and do not want to waste my time here and make sure I'm on the right path. I go back to California for a couple weeks soon, and I'm also interested in my feeling on reverse culture shock. Will I come back to Russia with renewed vigor? I'm feeling complacent after some time here.

Positives: She is young. For me the age gap is uncharted territory. The way she feels is wonderful and something I haven't had in 10 years. She isn't on the internet much, maybe 20 VK and FB friends in total. She maybe has one drink and is drunk, a very healthy girl who goes to the gym 5 times a week. I recently got her a one month pass to my gym, we worked out together and I observed her dedication to staying fit. Her plans for New Years are to stay home with family instead of parties with friends. She spends most of her time talking about family and rarely mentions friends. I am the first boy she has told her parents about, but I'm not sure if her first. I never asked as I don't want to know about past relationships. I make this clear in the beginning to all women I date regularly. She is smart and speaks perfect English. Her father is a prominent Russian government official (he is supportive of the relationship although I have never met him). One day in the morning I told her I wanted sex really bad that day. She told me she couldn't make it. Later that evening she called me and told me how bad she felt that she didn't come. I do think she aims to please. If I tell her to meet me, she usually comes to my location. Lastly, she isn't from Moscow, but moved here in the last 5 years from a smaller city.

Negatives: She is young. How will my family approach this age gap? I have floated it out there, but no one has really recognized her. I also ask her to do things and she seems to be a bit incapable or shy (i.e. get me a dr. to see because i'm sick. it didn't happen.) She never invites me to do anything. She always waits for me to invite or plan an outing or date. When I do, she is almost always available though. Maybe she is extremely submissive? My birthday came and went for the most part and what little we did, I planned. No gift, which I find strange for a Russian girl. Even her best friend gave me something. Outside of her best friend, I have met zero of her friends. I'm mostly worried that when I leave in July of next year there will be no way to continue the relationship as she will have to give up on university to be with me. I think this is too much for her young mind to wrap around but I did introduce the idea to her. I told her to think about what that means and that I would revisit the topic in a few weeks.

Final Thoughts: Even in a much better culture for men than the USA, it is still difficult here to find quality women who meet many of the perimeters I lay out in the positives above. I'm also thinking that someone 21-24 would be more ideal. Someone who either just started working or in the final year of the school program. The funniest thing she has said yet was, "When I first met you, I was scared of you." Angel She must be a good girl.

Thoughts?

I'm in a similar situation like you, although my girlfriend is Ukrainian and is divorced with a 5 year old son. Although we have a 19 year age gap between us she is the girl I have enjoyed spending the most time and the sex with is off the charts. I have been with many Ukrainian girls and a few Russians and can tell the difference between the gold diggers and real genuine ones like her.

At the same time I would NEVER bring her permanently to Canada or the US if I lived there.

Things change and people change. I've been around the block to know she will have way more options in the West and most smart girls realize that.
Such a relationship will only work if I were to move to Ukraine (which I would never do) or move to a neutral third country like Thailand, Dominican Republic, etc

If you really want to bring somebody back to the US, make sure to see a lawyer to have your assets covered. That way worst case scenario is that she only gets immigration.
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(12-11-2015 12:36 PM)rishboy77 Wrote:  
(12-11-2015 10:13 AM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  Been in Moscow for about 3.5 months and I have identified a good girl. She is an 19 YO 8 who I met from social circle (I'm mid 30s). We have been dating now for two months (yes I know it isn't long) and I will attempt to highlight the positives and negatives of my thoughts on her as I only have 6 more months left in Russia and do not want to waste my time here and make sure I'm on the right path. I go back to California for a couple weeks soon, and I'm also interested in my feeling on reverse culture shock. Will I come back to Russia with renewed vigor? I'm feeling complacent after some time here.

Positives: She is young. For me the age gap is uncharted territory. The way she feels is wonderful and something I haven't had in 10 years. She isn't on the internet much, maybe 20 VK and FB friends in total. She maybe has one drink and is drunk, a very healthy girl who goes to the gym 5 times a week. I recently got her a one month pass to my gym, we worked out together and I observed her dedication to staying fit. Her plans for New Years are to stay home with family instead of parties with friends. She spends most of her time talking about family and rarely mentions friends. I am the first boy she has told her parents about, but I'm not sure if her first. I never asked as I don't want to know about past relationships. I make this clear in the beginning to all women I date regularly. She is smart and speaks perfect English. Her father is a prominent Russian government official (he is supportive of the relationship although I have never met him). One day in the morning I told her I wanted sex really bad that day. She told me she couldn't make it. Later that evening she called me and told me how bad she felt that she didn't come. I do think she aims to please. If I tell her to meet me, she usually comes to my location. Lastly, she isn't from Moscow, but moved here in the last 5 years from a smaller city.

Negatives: She is young. How will my family approach this age gap? I have floated it out there, but no one has really recognized her. I also ask her to do things and she seems to be a bit incapable or shy (i.e. get me a dr. to see because i'm sick. it didn't happen.) She never invites me to do anything. She always waits for me to invite or plan an outing or date. When I do, she is almost always available though. Maybe she is extremely submissive? My birthday came and went for the most part and what little we did, I planned. No gift, which I find strange for a Russian girl. Even her best friend gave me something. Outside of her best friend, I have met zero of her friends. I'm mostly worried that when I leave in July of next year there will be no way to continue the relationship as she will have to give up on university to be with me. I think this is too much for her young mind to wrap around but I did introduce the idea to her. I told her to think about what that means and that I would revisit the topic in a few weeks.

Final Thoughts: Even in a much better culture for men than the USA, it is still difficult here to find quality women who meet many of the perimeters I lay out in the positives above. I'm also thinking that someone 21-24 would be more ideal. Someone who either just started working or in the final year of the school program. The funniest thing she has said yet was, "When I first met you, I was scared of you." Angel She must be a good girl.

Thoughts?

I'm in a similar situation like you, although my girlfriend is Ukrainian and is divorced with a 5 year old son. Although we have a 19 year age gap between us she is the girl I have enjoyed spending the most time and the sex with is off the charts. I have been with many Ukrainian girls and a few Russians and can tell the difference between the gold diggers and real genuine ones like her.

At the same time I would NEVER bring her permanently to Canada or the US if I lived there.

Things change and people change. I've been around the block to know she will have way more options in the West and most smart girls realize that.
Such a relationship will only work if I were to move to Ukraine (which I would never do) or move to a neutral third world like Thailand, Dominican Republic, etc

If you really want to bring somebody back to the US, make sure to see a lawyer to have your assets covered. That way worst case scenario is that she only gets immigration.
Good Luck !

One thing (if true) changes everything in this case, I think: Her father is a prominent Russian government official

It means the girl has options. If she wants to go study abroad, father will help.
Also, if you fuck with her, father might very well castigate. Keep that in mind, man.

You'd have to know more about the father's exact government job. It does impact his daughter's possibilities and future choices in life, a lot.
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I am still not understanding the back and forth of whether or not Russia and Ukraine are livable long term.

It seems 80% in the NO column and 20% in the YES.

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(12-11-2015 10:13 AM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  Been in Moscow for about 3.5 months and I have identified a good girl. She is an 19 YO 8 who I met from social circle (I'm mid 30s). We have been dating now for two months (yes I know it isn't long) and I will attempt to highlight the positives and negatives of my thoughts on her as I only have 6 more months left in Russia and do not want to waste my time here and make sure I'm on the right path. I go back to California for a couple weeks soon, and I'm also interested in my feeling on reverse culture shock. Will I come back to Russia with renewed vigor? I'm feeling complacent after some time here.

Positives: She is young. For me the age gap is uncharted territory. The way she feels is wonderful and something I haven't had in 10 years. She isn't on the internet much, maybe 20 VK and FB friends in total. She maybe has one drink and is drunk, a very healthy girl who goes to the gym 5 times a week. I recently got her a one month pass to my gym, we worked out together and I observed her dedication to staying fit. Her plans for New Years are to stay home with family instead of parties with friends. She spends most of her time talking about family and rarely mentions friends. I am the first boy she has told her parents about, but I'm not sure if her first. I never asked as I don't want to know about past relationships. I make this clear in the beginning to all women I date regularly. She is smart and speaks perfect English. Her father is a prominent Russian government official (he is supportive of the relationship although I have never met him). One day in the morning I told her I wanted sex really bad that day. She told me she couldn't make it. Later that evening she called me and told me how bad she felt that she didn't come. I do think she aims to please. If I tell her to meet me, she usually comes to my location. Lastly, she isn't from Moscow, but moved here in the last 5 years from a smaller city.

Negatives: She is young. How will my family approach this age gap? I have floated it out there, but no one has really recognized her. I also ask her to do things and she seems to be a bit incapable or shy (i.e. get me a dr. to see because i'm sick. it didn't happen.) She never invites me to do anything. She always waits for me to invite or plan an outing or date. When I do, she is almost always available though. Maybe she is extremely submissive? My birthday came and went for the most part and what little we did, I planned. No gift, which I find strange for a Russian girl. Even her best friend gave me something. Outside of her best friend, I have met zero of her friends. I'm mostly worried that when I leave in July of next year there will be no way to continue the relationship as she will have to give up on university to be with me. I think this is too much for her young mind to wrap around but I did introduce the idea to her. I told her to think about what that means and that I would revisit the topic in a few weeks.

Final Thoughts: Even in a much better culture for men than the USA, it is still difficult here to find quality women who meet many of the perimeters I lay out in the positives above. I'm also thinking that someone 21-24 would be more ideal. Someone who either just started working or in the final year of the school program. The funniest thing she has said yet was, "When I first met you, I was scared of you." :angel: She must be a good girl.

Thoughts?
Vet, I am of the opinion that in order for a long term relationship to function or marriage specially, both partners should know or learn each other's language. How good is your Russian now?
If that is too hard for some, then knowing her language, instead of her knowing yours, is usually better.
With all the young women, I met in Brazil this last month, I am glad that none spoke a lick of English and If I ever decide to date one, I will not care to teach them or for them to know any English.
But it took time to get to that level of fluency in Portuguese....wasn't easy.
Next year I will go to Russia, Uzbekistan, and Ukraine one more time. But this time, I will put a lot more effort on my Russian.
Hopefully, I will see some rewards for that work I will put in, like in Brazil.
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Washedupvet,

I think that you know deep down that those negatives mean something. Namely:

1. No birthday present
2. Not introducing you to her friends

Seems like she is a bit on the unsure side about the seriousness of the relationship. No birthday present is a huge deal in my book (if you are dating exclusively). Perhaps she has other suitors that her parents are pushing onto her. Or maybe she is doing her experimental phase with you. But red flags are still red flags my friend.

She does sound like a nice girl. If I were you I'd try not to get too attached just yet. Let's always remember not to make excuses for women when they are giving clear signals. Are you pursuing other options? A little distance on your part could be an idea.

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(12-11-2015 01:01 PM)Travesty Wrote:  I am still not understanding the back and forth of whether or not Russia and Ukraine are livable long term.

It seems 80% in the NO column and 20% in the YES.

Much like the back and forth on that 1,500 a month budget thread, everyone is different. I also think the livability long-term is also dependent on language skills and ability to build a social circle.

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Was perusing through Netflix last night and decided to watch a movie called "The Best Offer" (2013) with Geoffrey Rush because it had 4 stars and the poster looked interesting, though I didn't read the summary so I had no idea what it was about before I watched it. It had an affect on me and it's relevant to the thread. I don't want to ruin the movie in case anyone wants to watch it.

Uncanny how I would pick that movie to watch at this moment in time. Thinking more about it, it's an age-shaming movie from America so it makes sense I would be drawn to it since it's such a concern of mine.
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(12-11-2015 10:13 AM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  Been in Moscow for about 3.5 months and I have identified a good girl. She is an 19 YO 8 who I met from social circle (I'm mid 30s). We have been dating now for two months (yes I know it isn't long) and I will attempt to highlight the positives and negatives of my thoughts on her as I only have 6 more months left in Russia and do not want to waste my time here and make sure I'm on the right path. I go back to California for a couple weeks soon, and I'm also interested in my feeling on reverse culture shock. Will I come back to Russia with renewed vigor? I'm feeling complacent after some time here.

Positives: She is young. For me the age gap is uncharted territory. The way she feels is wonderful and something I haven't had in 10 years. She isn't on the internet much, maybe 20 VK and FB friends in total. She maybe has one drink and is drunk, a very healthy girl who goes to the gym 5 times a week. I recently got her a one month pass to my gym, we worked out together and I observed her dedication to staying fit. Her plans for New Years are to stay home with family instead of parties with friends. She spends most of her time talking about family and rarely mentions friends. I am the first boy she has told her parents about, but I'm not sure if her first. I never asked as I don't want to know about past relationships. I make this clear in the beginning to all women I date regularly. She is smart and speaks perfect English. Her father is a prominent Russian government official (he is supportive of the relationship although I have never met him). One day in the morning I told her I wanted sex really bad that day. She told me she couldn't make it. Later that evening she called me and told me how bad she felt that she didn't come. I do think she aims to please. If I tell her to meet me, she usually comes to my location. Lastly, she isn't from Moscow, but moved here in the last 5 years from a smaller city.

Negatives: She is young. How will my family approach this age gap? I have floated it out there, but no one has really recognized her. I also ask her to do things and she seems to be a bit incapable or shy (i.e. get me a dr. to see because i'm sick. it didn't happen.) She never invites me to do anything. She always waits for me to invite or plan an outing or date. When I do, she is almost always available though. Maybe she is extremely submissive? My birthday came and went for the most part and what little we did, I planned. No gift, which I find strange for a Russian girl. Even her best friend gave me something. Outside of her best friend, I have met zero of her friends. I'm mostly worried that when I leave in July of next year there will be no way to continue the relationship as she will have to give up on university to be with me. I think this is too much for her young mind to wrap around but I did introduce the idea to her. I told her to think about what that means and that I would revisit the topic in a few weeks.

Final Thoughts: Even in a much better culture for men than the USA, it is still difficult here to find quality women who meet many of the perimeters I lay out in the positives above. I'm also thinking that someone 21-24 would be more ideal. Someone who either just started working or in the final year of the school program. The funniest thing she has said yet was, "When I first met you, I was scared of you." Angel She must be a good girl.

Thoughts?

Have you asked her why she didn't give you any birthday present?
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^ Seriously sex doesn't even cost her money bro. Eatpuss

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(12-11-2015 06:17 PM)Onto Wrote:  Was perusing through Netflix last night and decided to watch a movie called "The Best Offer" (2013) with Geoffrey Rush because it had 4 stars and the poster looked interesting, though I didn't read the summary so I had no idea what it was about before I watched it. It had an affect on me and it's relevant to the thread. I don't want to ruin the movie in case anyone wants to watch it.

Uncanny how I would pick that movie to watch at this moment in time. Thinking more about it, it's an age-shaming movie from America so it makes sense I would be drawn to it since it's such a concern of mine.

Thanks for the recommendation. There are aspects that are applicable to this thread. I don't want to spoil the movie, but I found the ending to be powerful and quite a statement on how strong the desire is for a young, beautiful woman.
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(12-11-2015 06:17 PM)Onto Wrote:  Was perusing through Netflix last night and decided to watch a movie called "The Best Offer" (2013) with Geoffrey Rush because it had 4 stars and the poster looked interesting, though I didn't read the summary so I had no idea what it was about before I watched it. It had an affect on me and it's relevant to the thread. I don't want to ruin the movie in case anyone wants to watch it.

Uncanny how I would pick that movie to watch at this moment in time. Thinking more about it, it's an age-shaming movie from America so it makes sense I would be drawn to it since it's such a concern of mine.

Thanks for the recommendation. There are aspects that are applicable to this thread. I don't want to spoil the movie, but I have the ending to be powerful and quite a statement on how strong the desire is for a young, beautiful woman.
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I just had another wake up call to American women in general.

Before going to Colombia I got the phone number of a clothing store girl a 20yo 7. Last night I went on my first date with her. She seemed nice. She was underage so we played pool. I usually would bring an airplane bottle or two of vodka and sell her on having a screw driver with me at the bar. This time I took it easy didn't prepare. I floated the idea of going and getting some liquor from the liquor store, she said she needed to drive, I could have done what I have been trained to do and pushed harder to drink, escalate faster.

We played pool and talked, laughed. It felt good. We got ice cream afterwards and sat in a booth. Her body language was good she sat close to me and leaned in with her leg touching me. I learned she comes from a good family, lives at home, goes to school, isn't a heavy drinker, smoker, drug taker or any of that. She seemed like she had some potential. I bought her ice cream. We walked talked more. I probably was more honest than with more girls and more open, I wanted to try something different. She seemed nice after all. The conversation was probably at a clip of 60 her 40 me. My usual is 90 her 10 me.

We left and walked down the street. When we were separating for our cars, I kissed her good bye. It was a classy kiss. She seemed to enjoy it and I walked away. I just didn't want to go to the full war of getting her back to my place and trying to bang her sober. I just wanted a nice date.

Normally I'd wait 2 or 3 days to text. This afternoon I gave her a small text saying I enjoyed last night. Nothing back. My gut tells me that is that from past experiences with similar situations. Most of my success with American girls here is usually by showing up 15 minutes late with 2 or 3 drinks in me. Pushing the idea of drinking. Escalating like an animal inside a bar and sloppy makeouts and ass grabbing on the street. Trying to get them back to my place. I've banged virgins this way.

I guess I don't like that it seems to be the way to success here. In Colombia I would have girls texting terms of endearment, wondering how I am. Even if it is half bullshit at least it is an effort. I came back here and remember girls when things are new can take 6 hours to 2 days to text back a 1 to 3 word sentence.

In America too a girl that seems this "nice" and "good" seems to come around probably once every 6 months or so.

Just more food for thought for me whenever I feel like pussing out on trying to find a girl abroad.

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WestIndianArchie Wrote:Am I reacting to her? No pussy, all problems
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Is she reacting to me? All pussy, no problems
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(12-11-2015 10:17 PM)Dantes Wrote:  
(12-11-2015 06:17 PM)Onto Wrote:  Was perusing through Netflix last night and decided to watch a movie called "The Best Offer" (2013) with Geoffrey Rush because it had 4 stars and the poster looked interesting, though I didn't read the summary so I had no idea what it was about before I watched it. It had an affect on me and it's relevant to the thread. I don't want to ruin the movie in case anyone wants to watch it.

Uncanny how I would pick that movie to watch at this moment in time. Thinking more about it, it's an age-shaming movie from America so it makes sense I would be drawn to it since it's such a concern of mine.

Thanks for the recommendation. There are aspects that are applicable to this thread. I don't want to spoil the movie, but I found the ending to be powerful and quite a statement on how strong the desire is for a young, beautiful woman.

That is a perfect way of putting it, and really the take-away from the movie.
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(12-11-2015 06:11 PM)dreambig Wrote:  Washedupvet,

I think that you know deep down that those negatives mean something. Namely:

1. No birthday present
2. Not introducing you to her friends

Seems like she is a bit on the unsure side about the seriousness of the relationship. No birthday present is a huge deal in my book (if you are dating exclusively). Perhaps she has other suitors that her parents are pushing onto her. Or maybe she is doing her experimental phase with you. But red flags are still red flags my friend.

She does sound like a nice girl. If I were you I'd try not to get too attached just yet. Let's always remember not to make excuses for women when they are giving clear signals. Are you pursuing other options? A little distance on your part could be an idea.

Good advice, namely number 2. And yes, let's not make excuses. I am pursuing a few other options at this time as well, but I have few free evenings so the options are limited to pursue multiple women. I agree that she is in the experimental phase with me. I have a trip coming up to California in a couple weeks. This could be a defining time for us. On a positive note, she did the dishes before leaving this morning. Heart
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(12-11-2015 11:36 AM)The Ligurian Wrote:  ^^ The I was scared of you line is something I heard a few times this summer from girls I saw. I wonder what the deeper meaning of that statement is?

From what I have heard, you are a large human (correct me if I'm wrong). I'm built like a small tank so I think it may be a physical fear at some level. Once trust is built, it should go away for us I think.
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(12-11-2015 12:56 PM)Going strong Wrote:  
(12-11-2015 12:36 PM)rishboy77 Wrote:  
(12-11-2015 10:13 AM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  Been in Moscow for about 3.5 months and I have identified a good girl. She is an 19 YO 8 who I met from social circle (I'm mid 30s). We have been dating now for two months (yes I know it isn't long) and I will attempt to highlight the positives and negatives of my thoughts on her as I only have 6 more months left in Russia and do not want to waste my time here and make sure I'm on the right path. I go back to California for a couple weeks soon, and I'm also interested in my feeling on reverse culture shock. Will I come back to Russia with renewed vigor? I'm feeling complacent after some time here.

Positives: She is young. For me the age gap is uncharted territory. The way she feels is wonderful and something I haven't had in 10 years. She isn't on the internet much, maybe 20 VK and FB friends in total. She maybe has one drink and is drunk, a very healthy girl who goes to the gym 5 times a week. I recently got her a one month pass to my gym, we worked out together and I observed her dedication to staying fit. Her plans for New Years are to stay home with family instead of parties with friends. She spends most of her time talking about family and rarely mentions friends. I am the first boy she has told her parents about, but I'm not sure if her first. I never asked as I don't want to know about past relationships. I make this clear in the beginning to all women I date regularly. She is smart and speaks perfect English. Her father is a prominent Russian government official (he is supportive of the relationship although I have never met him). One day in the morning I told her I wanted sex really bad that day. She told me she couldn't make it. Later that evening she called me and told me how bad she felt that she didn't come. I do think she aims to please. If I tell her to meet me, she usually comes to my location. Lastly, she isn't from Moscow, but moved here in the last 5 years from a smaller city.

Negatives: She is young. How will my family approach this age gap? I have floated it out there, but no one has really recognized her. I also ask her to do things and she seems to be a bit incapable or shy (i.e. get me a dr. to see because i'm sick. it didn't happen.) She never invites me to do anything. She always waits for me to invite or plan an outing or date. When I do, she is almost always available though. Maybe she is extremely submissive? My birthday came and went for the most part and what little we did, I planned. No gift, which I find strange for a Russian girl. Even her best friend gave me something. Outside of her best friend, I have met zero of her friends. I'm mostly worried that when I leave in July of next year there will be no way to continue the relationship as she will have to give up on university to be with me. I think this is too much for her young mind to wrap around but I did introduce the idea to her. I told her to think about what that means and that I would revisit the topic in a few weeks.

Final Thoughts: Even in a much better culture for men than the USA, it is still difficult here to find quality women who meet many of the perimeters I lay out in the positives above. I'm also thinking that someone 21-24 would be more ideal. Someone who either just started working or in the final year of the school program. The funniest thing she has said yet was, "When I first met you, I was scared of you." Angel She must be a good girl.

Thoughts?

I'm in a similar situation like you, although my girlfriend is Ukrainian and is divorced with a 5 year old son. Although we have a 19 year age gap between us she is the girl I have enjoyed spending the most time and the sex with is off the charts. I have been with many Ukrainian girls and a few Russians and can tell the difference between the gold diggers and real genuine ones like her.

At the same time I would NEVER bring her permanently to Canada or the US if I lived there.

Things change and people change. I've been around the block to know she will have way more options in the West and most smart girls realize that.
Such a relationship will only work if I were to move to Ukraine (which I would never do) or move to a neutral third world like Thailand, Dominican Republic, etc

If you really want to bring somebody back to the US, make sure to see a lawyer to have your assets covered. That way worst case scenario is that she only gets immigration.
Good Luck !

One thing (if true) changes everything in this case, I think: Her father is a prominent Russian government official

It means the girl has options. If she wants to go study abroad, father will help.
Also, if you fuck with her, father might very well castigate. Keep that in mind, man.

You'd have to know more about the father's exact government job. It does impact his daughter's possibilities and future choices in life, a lot.

Yes, and she has already spent 3 months studying in London and has many options. I know quite a bit about the position her father has. It is big enough position that his title would be recognized by anyone. And believe me, I have to tread lightly on this one. However, he seems to be supportive of us and could be a help in a bind. As long as he is on team vet. If not, all bets are off.
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(12-11-2015 10:13 AM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  Been in Moscow for about 3.5 months and I have identified a good girl. She is an 19 YO 8 who I met from social circle (I'm mid 30s). We have been dating now for two months (yes I know it isn't long) and I will attempt to highlight the positives and negatives of my thoughts on her as I only have 6 more months left in Russia and do not want to waste my time here and make sure I'm on the right path. I go back to California for a couple weeks soon, and I'm also interested in my feeling on reverse culture shock. Will I come back to Russia with renewed vigor? I'm feeling complacent after some time here.

Positives: She is young. For me the age gap is uncharted territory. The way she feels is wonderful and something I haven't had in 10 years. She isn't on the internet much, maybe 20 VK and FB friends in total. She maybe has one drink and is drunk, a very healthy girl who goes to the gym 5 times a week. I recently got her a one month pass to my gym, we worked out together and I observed her dedication to staying fit. Her plans for New Years are to stay home with family instead of parties with friends. She spends most of her time talking about family and rarely mentions friends. I am the first boy she has told her parents about, but I'm not sure if her first. I never asked as I don't want to know about past relationships. I make this clear in the beginning to all women I date regularly. She is smart and speaks perfect English. Her father is a prominent Russian government official (he is supportive of the relationship although I have never met him). One day in the morning I told her I wanted sex really bad that day. She told me she couldn't make it. Later that evening she called me and told me how bad she felt that she didn't come. I do think she aims to please. If I tell her to meet me, she usually comes to my location. Lastly, she isn't from Moscow, but moved here in the last 5 years from a smaller city.

Negatives: She is young. How will my family approach this age gap? I have floated it out there, but no one has really recognized her. I also ask her to do things and she seems to be a bit incapable or shy (i.e. get me a dr. to see because i'm sick. it didn't happen.) She never invites me to do anything. She always waits for me to invite or plan an outing or date. When I do, she is almost always available though. Maybe she is extremely submissive? My birthday came and went for the most part and what little we did, I planned. No gift, which I find strange for a Russian girl. Even her best friend gave me something. Outside of her best friend, I have met zero of her friends. I'm mostly worried that when I leave in July of next year there will be no way to continue the relationship as she will have to give up on university to be with me. I think this is too much for her young mind to wrap around but I did introduce the idea to her. I told her to think about what that means and that I would revisit the topic in a few weeks.

Final Thoughts: Even in a much better culture for men than the USA, it is still difficult here to find quality women who meet many of the perimeters I lay out in the positives above. I'm also thinking that someone 21-24 would be more ideal. Someone who either just started working or in the final year of the school program. The funniest thing she has said yet was, "When I first met you, I was scared of you." Angel She must be a good girl.

Thoughts?

I am surprised by that statement...from my personal experience the women in EE are in every level superior to those of the west, especially of USA. I am still shocked how when I travel abroad I have more intellectual conversations with Russian 21 year olds than 30 year old college-educated American women. I think your only issue is overcoming the age-gap, if your girl was 5 years older I'm sure marriage questions would be creeping into your mind. Idea
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