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RE: Wife Hunting Abroad
(09-08-2018 10:23 PM)Parras Wrote:  I want a submissive, low IQ, traditional woman who takes care of my house and cooks me a nice dinner when I get home from work.

On a serious note, if all you want is a domestic servant and you do NOT think about your offspring, this is the attitude. (But I don't understand why you would marry it and not just hire it out?)

But if you seriously consider having and raising kids, the intelligence of the woman is VERY important. You gotta think about what kind of mother you are giving to your kids, and what kind of built-in firmware they will have from the start.

Heritability is making a comeback in the modern age via 'IQ', but practically everyone in older times recognized it and talked about it all the time. Loosely speaking, the older belief was that intelligence is inherited from the mother and character from the father. It's more or less accurate.
09-10-2018 08:28 AM
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IQ is 70%-80% heritable. You can expect some regression towards the mean, so if you and your wife are Mensa members, your kids may not qualify, but they will most likely still be well above average.
09-10-2018 08:49 AM
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RE: Wife Hunting Abroad
Honestly, you guys are way too obsessed with IQ. For real, if I wanted IQ that badly, I'd be with American broads that are more university educated than anywhere else in the world. It's not everything. I understand you don't want to be with someone that's a complete airhead, but to obsess over an IQ stat is a bit nuts to me when the priority should be a feminine women with motherly qualities for potential offspring that you connect/vibe with.

I've dated a serious Filipina in my past that I wouldn't consider to have the highest IQ, yet I considered her much closer to marriage material than a Chinese girl or American girl I dated that both were pretty smart girls. What you guys aren't factoring in is street smarts and attitude towards life. IQ can't measure those. For example, I think my former Filipina girlfriend is probably more resourceful than any girl I have ever dated. The other two weren't bad with money or materialistic, but the Filipina was the best at making her stuff last or putting the most with the least like packing a week's worth of clothes in a bag the size of a purse versus American girls that'd need two bags for the same.

In terms of life attitude, the Filipina was incredibly optimistic even in the worst of situations, leveled out my cynicism towards some things, and really was not one that gave a shit about identity politics or divisive things like that.

I understand some guys on the forum really don't care for Filipinas, but you don't have to use them necessarily. This is just one example of how IQ may not be the be all end all. I have a Bachelor's Degree and I know a friend that has more overall intelligence that doesn't even have a high school diploma than most people I know who get Bachelor's. I learned a lot of game/hustle/bullshit stuff from him when he was in his prime.

My point is there's just other factors that I think you guys making the IQ argument need to consider that can contradict what you're saying...

As far back as I could remember, I always wanted to be a player.

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09-10-2018 09:24 AM
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Thor Offline
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RE: Wife Hunting Abroad
I´ve been seeing this girl for a while. Things have been going great etc. She´s from EE, has har own apartment which she owns, car and a good job that pays well. We´ve been talking about living together and I see she is bringing up a lot that she just wants to stay at home, raise kids etc and that work is not for her. She would get depressed blah blah.

I already fell into that trap before, supporting someone and aint ever doing it again. I have told her this exactly. The reaction was not positive. I´m thinking maybe I need to wrap this one up and move along but before I do that I´d be interested in hearing if any others have been in a similar situation and how they handled that and what the outcome was.
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09-10-2018 10:32 AM
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RE: Wife Hunting Abroad
(09-10-2018 10:32 AM)Thor Wrote:  I´ve been seeing this girl for a while. Things have been going great etc. She´s from EE, has har own apartment which she owns, car and a good job that pays well. We´ve been talking about living together and I see she is bringing up a lot that she just wants to stay at home, raise kids etc and that work is not for her. She would get depressed blah blah.

I already fell into that trap before, supporting someone and aint ever doing it again. I have told her this exactly. The reaction was not positive. I´m thinking maybe I need to wrap this one up and move along but before I do that I´d be interested in hearing if any others have been in a similar situation and how they handled that and what the outcome was.

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Keep banging her until the wheels fall off. And they probably will fall off sooner rather than later, in my experience anyway, since she needs to move on to her next sucker, I mean option. Dodgy She's made up her mind and appears to fully locked into provider hunting mode. Not much else you can do since you clearly stated you have zero interest in assuming said provider role. I doubt that you can easily move her into an FWB situation since you seem to have been on the husband track up to this point. Having said that, if you do pull the trigger and get hitched, you may want to investigate as to how an asset disposition and/or alimony would play out legally in your EE country. IOW, would you be entitled to half of her assets: car, apartment, etc. like you would in some US jurisdictions.
09-10-2018 08:56 PM
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RE: Wife Hunting Abroad
(09-10-2018 09:24 AM)yankeetravels Wrote:  My point is there's just other factors that I think you guys making the IQ argument need to consider that can contradict what you're saying...

Couldn't agree more, Yankee. Here's a cheat sheet for all the high IQ guys here who can't put 2 and 2 together when it comes to high quality girls.

1. When you're having lunch at your place, and your glass is empty, does she get up and refill it? Does she even refill her own glass?

2. When she sees you cracking pistachios open, does she take the bag away from you and start cracking them for you, or does she take the bag away and start cracking them open for herself?

3. When you try to give her money, does she immediately take it, and maybe even ask for more, or does she say thank you, but declines?

4. Does she tell you to buy her pricey gifts? Or does she instead tell you not to buy her pricey gifts and instead encourages you to save your money for the wellbeing of your future children?

5. Does she argue with you in public, or does she gracefully leave the matter for a private discussion later?

6. When there's a disagreement, does she raise her voice, or does she stay calm?

7. Does she know when your birthday is? And when your birthday comes, in the weeks prior, does she spend large amounts of time making custom gifts for you like a cake with an image of your favorite pastime on it that she drew herself, or a video montage that took days of editing to complete, for example?

8. Does she think she's the luckiest girl in the world when she's around you?

9. Are you the man that can help her accomplish her goals in life, to get her where she wants to be, and vice versa?

10. Does she have self-respect?

There you go. Type that list up on a small piece of paper and store it in your pocket protectors.

Refer to it every so often, it could save you from a lot of self-inflicted difficulties in life.
(This post was last modified: 09-10-2018 11:26 PM by Spaniard88.)
09-10-2018 11:22 PM
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RE: Wife Hunting Abroad
I believe most of us agreed, during the IQ conversation, that IQ really only matters if you want to have kids. Since IQ can be 60% to 80% genetically heretible, and it predicts major positive life outcomes, you should want your kids to have high (at least above average) IQs.

If you don’t want to have kids, then intelligence in a woman is just personal preference - with pros and cons.
09-11-2018 01:26 AM
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RE: Wife Hunting Abroad
2nd tier Ukraine seems super good for wife hunting. Met one woman who had a medical degree and was working as a gynecologist (imagine the irony if you get a STD from her). And another chick who had a Masters' Degree and was working in IT. Maybe it's easier to get degrees in Ukraine but otherwise these two women must had been smarter than most in their country.

Their claims about their education was corroborated easily when I internet stalked them on Google.

Both of them were super negative about local men (calling them drunks and dumb tradies in a nutshell)


Still these are probably gold diggers who just want to marry a foreign western man for a passport (2nd tier Ukraine seems to rival Africa in lifestyle and I been to Zambia and Zimbabwe!), someone to sponsor her and/or to divorce rape him.

I also suspect these women aren't going to easily give up on their careers either. So you're forced to move to a 2nd tier Ukrainian city that has potholes everywhere and high crime (from local drunks and mentally ill people just cruising the streets all day).


I honestly think I'm still too young to get hitched to a random bish in Ukraine. Maybe when I am in my late 30s or 40s I might be tempted to do a 90 day tour.
09-13-2018 08:24 AM
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RE: Wife Hunting Abroad
(09-11-2018 01:26 AM)Cam Newton Wrote:  If you don’t want to have kids, then intelligence in a woman is just personal preference - with pros and cons.

There are just cons to dating girls with IQ substantially lower than yours. She doesn't read, think or see anything the same way you do. She doesn't even get the same references from dumb movies.
You can't discuss anything work related with her.

Life is complicated and the way she will choose to go about it will soon start to annoy the living shit out of you. She will miss stuff that will be super obvious to you.

Most of the things "IQ deniers" list can easily be done by a cheap maid and are not IQ but agreeableness related anyway.
09-13-2018 10:13 AM
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