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(09-07-2015 01:05 AM)RawGod Wrote:  ...it'll never be 1977 again.

I realised that in 1984.

>13 years old
>Return of the Jedi at the Drive-In
>Midget Teddy Bears on screen
>Hear two hot older girls in lycra skirts walking past the car saying "this is for babies"
>Realise they're right
>Realise even Harrison Ford seems to think they're right
>Head down to the playground beside the concession stand to where the cool older girls are all smoking on the climbing pyramid
>Try to look sexy moody edgelord by not swinging on the swings like a kid
>Really want to swing on the swings like a kid
>Still clueless enough that a 13 year old boy is invisible to 15 year old girls anyway
>Realise I can see right up their skirts from where I'm sitting
>See hints of something that looks like a Wookie
>Realise this is a far better use of my time than Star Wars
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(09-06-2015 10:38 PM)Veloce Wrote:  
(09-06-2015 08:33 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Ah, who cares at this point. Star Wars is done; it has made its permanent contribution to the world's art and culture during a period of unparalleled artistic genius and verve. The Star Wars films that mattered were made in the late 70s and early 80s. It's done and left for us to absorb, savor, and reference in loving memes.

Any attempt to extend it to this time is destined to be equally stillborn, presenting a texture as deadly and evacuating as the original was rich and nourishing. Nothing more appropriate than for a DYKE to be the avatar of this blankness.

Man I remember when Phantom Menace came out. The 90s were coming to an end and everyone was so excited for the 2000s to be upon us. New Star Wars movies using computer animation!

I hated it from the get-go. I think it took some people a little time to admit to themselves that the movies are just bad. In a way, Episodes 1-3 were a harbinger of things to come from Hollywood over the next decade.

You have to admit though the episode I choreography was the best:


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(09-07-2015 12:17 AM)Bacchus Wrote:  Star Wars is a property owned by Disney. Disney is actively promoting the SJW agenda. For example, ABC, which is owned by Disney, broadcasts Modern Family. And ABC Family, another Disney property, broadcasts The Fosters, about an interracial lesbian couple who are also foster parents.

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(09-07-2015 03:37 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  
(09-06-2015 10:38 PM)Veloce Wrote:  
(09-06-2015 08:33 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Ah, who cares at this point. Star Wars is done; it has made its permanent contribution to the world's art and culture during a period of unparalleled artistic genius and verve. The Star Wars films that mattered were made in the late 70s and early 80s. It's done and left for us to absorb, savor, and reference in loving memes.

Any attempt to extend it to this time is destined to be equally stillborn, presenting a texture as deadly and evacuating as the original was rich and nourishing. Nothing more appropriate than for a DYKE to be the avatar of this blankness.

Man I remember when Phantom Menace came out. The 90s were coming to an end and everyone was so excited for the 2000s to be upon us. New Star Wars movies using computer animation!

I hated it from the get-go. I think it took some people a little time to admit to themselves that the movies are just bad. In a way, Episodes 1-3 were a harbinger of things to come from Hollywood over the next decade.

You have to admit though the episode I choreography was the best:



Plinkett shows us side by sides of original lightsaber duels and the ones from the new Star Wars, and why the new Star Wars duels suck.

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(09-06-2015 05:31 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  What's next, the first openly gay Jedi fighting a religious, right-wing Sith lord?

well, the bad guy's sword in this one is a cross...

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I recently re-watched Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, only the second time I've seen it in about a decade. My god, could they have been any more ham-fisted with the whole Jedi/Sith modern political parallels? Every second lightsaber swing it seemed Ewan Mcgregor was yelling about "democracy!!!" or something to Hayden Christensen's equally ham-fisted angsty face.

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(09-07-2015 02:28 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  
>Realise I can see right up their skirts from where I'm sitting
>See hints of something that looks like a Wookie
>Realise this is a far better use of my time than Star Wars

You just ruined both Wookie and glorious natural bushes for me...

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I had no desire to see episode VII as soon as I knew they were making one.

It wasn't just that the prequel trilogy sucked (though I was too young to realize it at the time). At least the prequel trilogy though actually fit into established Star Wars canon from George Lucas.

But this "Force Awakens" bullshit doesn't, and I knew this was going to be yet another way to cheaply milk an established franchise for more money while delivering shit quality and lazy writing, sprinkled with some special effects to mask it. I knew it was going to be nothing more than an attempt to abuse Star Wars' franchise authority for a quick cash grab.

When I saw them begin to pander to SJW's earlier in the year, it redoubled my assessment, though with yet more impetus not to see the movie because of my distaste for the narrative.

Lucas sold out.

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I didn't like the first three. I didn't like the second three. I won't like this one.
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I hate how inconsistent they portray Jedi powers.

That goes for all superhero movies.

The Plinkett critique is fun to watch and he nails everything thats wrong with the last Star Wars.

We were meant for far more than to suffer in our self created prisons only to die alone. It doesn't have to be that way. It never did.
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(09-07-2015 12:37 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  Vader 1980: No. I - AM - YOUR - FATHER.
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(09-07-2015 10:29 AM)Fisto Wrote:  I hate how inconsistent they portray Jedi powers.

That goes for all superhero movies.


The Plinkett critique is fun to watch and he nails everything thats wrong with the last Star Wars.

I hate that about the whole genre. Powers change as the plot demands, absolutely no consideration for continuity.
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Quote:>Realise I can see right up their skirts from where I'm sitting
>See hints of something that looks like a Wookie

I once tweeted, legit question: "How do we even know Chewbacca is male?"

First response I got? "Well, he parked the MIllenium Falcon."

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(09-06-2015 07:51 PM)CRR Wrote:  I always thought C3P0 was kinda gay.

Anyway, it's already happening:

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Quote:According to the sci-fi website Big Shiny Robot, the upcoming novel "Lords of the Sith" will feature a capable but flawed Imperial official named Moff Morswho "also happens to be a lesbian."

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(09-07-2015 07:40 AM)UroboricForms Wrote:  I recently re-watched Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, only the second time I've seen it in about a decade. My god, could they have been any more ham-fisted with the whole Jedi/Sith modern political parallels? Every second lightsaber swing it seemed Ewan Mcgregor was yelling about "democracy!!!" or something to Hayden Christensen's equally ham-fisted angsty face.

If you think about it Star wars is really about communism vs fascism. The empire are fascists and the "rebels" are Che Guevara type revolutionaries. The Jedi are ideal space communists..ideologues who forego earthly desires for ideological purity and communal sacrifice.

The republic fell because it became too tainted with corrupt capitalists which is why the fascists were able to take over. The noble jedi communists and their comrades swoop in at the end to save the galaxy.

George Lucas is a communist.
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Quote:Moff Morswho "also happens to be a lesbian."

"Happens" my arse.

What "happens" actually means: the character was deliberately-designed to fill a diversity quota to force the acceptance of progressive ideology down the throats of the fandom.
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This SJW stuff that gets injected into everything just sort of automatically turns me off the stuff it infects. For example, The Walking Dead used to be my favorite show of the past decade, but when they aired the episode with the fags kissing, it just died to me. That was the last episode I ever watched, and I didn't even bother to finish it.

Thing is, I didn't have to try not to watch that show. I didn't have to exercise any self-control. I just simply didn't want to watch it anymore.

The same thing may be happening to me with Star Wars now. It's bad enough they had to bull-doze the expanded universe to make room for these new movies, now these new movies are likely going to be very sub-par propaganda films.
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(09-09-2015 12:15 AM)SirTimothy Wrote:  This SJW stuff that gets injected into everything just sort of automatically turns me off the stuff it infects. For example, The Walking Dead used to be my favorite show of the past decade, but when they aired the episode with the fags kissing, it just died to me. That was the last episode I ever watched, and I didn't even bother to finish it.

Thing is, I didn't have to try not to watch that show. I didn't have to exercise any self-control. I just simply didn't want to watch it anymore.

The same thing may be happening to me with Star Wars now. It's bad enough they had to bull-doze the expanded universe to make room for these new movies, now these new movies are likely going to be very sub-par propaganda films.

But I would have been excited to see a Thrawn trilogy. Imagine if, instead of all of this SJW BS, we had a movie about a strong admiral - a military genius - who actually had a way to defeat the alliance and restore the empire! And even had a way to render Jedi useless!

They could have been some of the greatest scifi movies ever. But no, we get a recycled story about a guy who didn't know he was a jedi and a "strong" female all fighting a generic bad guy.
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If i want to watch anything, it's before 2000 or the 90s.

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(09-09-2015 01:04 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  
(09-09-2015 12:15 AM)SirTimothy Wrote:  This SJW stuff that gets injected into everything just sort of automatically turns me off the stuff it infects. For example, The Walking Dead used to be my favorite show of the past decade, but when they aired the episode with the fags kissing, it just died to me. That was the last episode I ever watched, and I didn't even bother to finish it.

Thing is, I didn't have to try not to watch that show. I didn't have to exercise any self-control. I just simply didn't want to watch it anymore.

The same thing may be happening to me with Star Wars now. It's bad enough they had to bull-doze the expanded universe to make room for these new movies, now these new movies are likely going to be very sub-par propaganda films.

But I would have been excited to see a Thrawn trilogy. Imagine if, instead of all of this SJW BS, we had a movie about a strong admiral - a military genius - who actually had a way to defeat the alliance and restore the empire! And even had a way to render Jedi useless!

They could have been some of the greatest scifi movies ever. But no, we get a recycled story about a guy who didn't know he was a jedi and a "strong" female all fighting a generic bad guy.

Yeah, and it's looking like the Han/Luke/Leia/Chewie bunch may be getting shoved into the background. I used to like how in the expanded universe, they kept those characters at the front, and then built on them. e.g., Luke got rid of all traces of whiny-ness and became a bad-ass Jedi Master. Oh well.
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How am I supposed to relate to Rey? She's a tomboy. This is a movie for boys and the main character-presumably Rey- is a girl. That makes zero sense. I am not black but at least Finn is a guy and I can relate to him to some extend.

I mostly relate to Kylo Rey, a strong man. However, why is he the villain? Is masculinity the enemy? Why does shattered empire features gay characters how can I relate to them? It's a movie and franchised targeted towards YOUNG BOYS. Why all these women and LGBT characters?
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I get the hesitation in regards to this movie due to them putting the female main character front and center in the poster, but really guys? Movie isn't even out yet and everyone's already acting like they've seen the whole movie sh*tting on it like a Dubai sponsor sh*tting on a $10 instagram-whore. Why don't we wait until the movie comes out and some of us are actually brave enough to watch this supposedly PC-extravaganza before we decide if it's as bad as everyone here makes it out to be. I mean, couple months ago the same thing was happening in the Mad Max thread, only for some to come back here after it released saying it wasn't THAT bad. Let's not judge a movie by it's poster now.

On another note, imo, I highly suspect this isn't really targeted at young boys, but more of the crowd who grew up with Star Wars, was disappointed at the prequel trilogy, and making this as the second coming of the first trilogy, and aiming more towards the nostalgia of Star Wars. For sure, those audience will indeed bring their kids (the young boys) to watch it to create a new gen of fans. But I think the primary target is the nostalgic OG fans.
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Quote:Imperial official named Moff Mors who "also happens to be a lesbian."

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(09-09-2015 12:15 AM)SirTimothy Wrote:  This SJW stuff that gets injected into everything just sort of automatically turns me off the stuff it infects. For example, The Walking Dead used to be my favorite show of the past decade, but when they aired the episode with the fags kissing, it just died to me. That was the last episode I ever watched, and I didn't even bother to finish it.

To be fair, it was in the comic. Later on in the series, one of the gay dudes gets his leg blown off and dies, leaving the other one to lament about how he's the last gay man on Earth.

If they decide to make Carl gay or they introduce some random alpha male badass character who "happens" to be gay, then yeah, they're definitely getting subversive.

It still beats the hell out of (LGBT)Z Nation.

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