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(09-06-2019 02:52 PM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 02:01 PM)Syberpunk Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 11:30 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  What if those moronic idiots did not repeat endlessly of how awful the Prequels were. Compared to the Sequels they were masterpieces, but the morons don't get it. The globohomos liked the hatred of the Prequels because George Lucas - an independent - owned the biggest franchise. They also hated the real-life plot of seizing power via false-flags - of controlling both sides - of the emperor. That was a bit too close to home.

I couldn't agree more...

...It was as groundbreaking as what was done in the 70's....

heres the KEY: inspired from films and stories that are NOT Star Wars. Flying races , politics, whimsy, assasinations, war, drama, complacency, psychology, resentment and then tragedy.

Now all Star Wars is only inspired by Star Wars.

Respectfully and resignedly..

Mr Strangelight and Mr Punk..

I couldn't disagree more.

The prequels were terrible:

You could print off all the most insightful political commentary there is, that (((The Joooos))) don't like, lay it end to end and film it - that would still result in a shit film.

Lucas telling everyone beforehand that he'd based Episode II (2002) a large part on Film noir and detective movies .. then we get a tracking shot into an actual American Diner complete with a bunch of holographic Aliens playing American Football in the foreground. Great suspension of disbelief.

The Gladiator (2000) scenes from 2 years before that were copied shot for shot except no-one gave a shit about these copied scenes cos it was all (acting included) so cartoony.

The ESPN style commentators during the pod-racing in episode I. It was like watching South Park and not in a good way.

All Lucas' bad chickens came home to roost.

Not least the fact that he can't get his actors to emote.
He sits or stands them in circles and
one talks, everyone stands still and stares, the one finishes, the others all nod, then someone else starts up, they all look on in freeze mode, she finishes, they all nod etc. etc.

Ive already documented on this thread how Terence Stamp tried to work on his acting chemistry with Natalie Portman and instead he was told that she wouldn't be there for their scenes together - he had to talk to a smily face on a stick instead.

Cos it was all green screen..

All of it.

And the actors were given crude prompts as to the 'mind-blowing!' scenes that were unfolding around them.
That they had to react to..
Cue the most wooden and comical acting seen for many a year.

As the spoof magazine cover said.. Amazing special effects that even at the time - "Still Look Kind of Fake"

During Episode III, watched in a packed cinema in a poor neighbourhood in the UK, the audience laughed all the way through - just at all the wrong bits.
Especially at Hayden Christensen's 'Faustian" 'tortured' over-acting.

I particularly liked his and Natalie Portmans romance scenes in Episode II - just.. witty, seductive and beautifully acted.. and all at the same time.

I could go on .. but TL: DR - it was just shit.

I think you'll enjoy these as I did (they're excerpts from longer spoofs which have a coherent story)







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The Prequels did not destroy the Star Wars lore.

The Prequels still manifested countless toys which sold like crazy and many still are collectibles.

The Prequels created countless fan fiction movies.

Furthermore the Prequels DID NOT DESTROY STAR WARS.

Apart from that they had groundbreaking never-before seen scenes and manifested a huge sprawling world of the Star Wars universe.

Yes - some ideas were corny and the acting advice of Lucas were a bit too stilted at times etc. Somewhat flawed movies don't make really bad movies like Farce Awakens or The Last Turd.

Despite the flaws the prequels were fine for Star Wars despite some people getting their panties in a bunch over it. The current Sequels are the ones which destroy the franchise so that no one gives two shits about it anymore.

The hatred is ill-adviced. I still remember the Red Letter Media crapheads defending Episode VII because the morons built their channel on Prequel hatred and now couldn't well admit that Disney created a steaming heap that was far inferior to the Prequels. They only had to admit defeat after Episode VIII.

Whatever - it does not matter anyway. It's gone and dusted. They will continue to pump out one turd after another while getting ever more woke until no one cares anymore. They will redo a woke version of the Original Trilogy likely in 7-8 years if anyone cares at that time. They have to put in so much agenda in it that they will inevitable bomb the entire franchise.
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(09-06-2019 02:52 PM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 02:01 PM)Syberpunk Wrote:  
(09-06-2019 11:30 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  What if those moronic idiots did not repeat endlessly of how awful the Prequels were. Compared to the Sequels they were masterpieces, but the morons don't get it. The globohomos liked the hatred of the Prequels because George Lucas - an independent - owned the biggest franchise. They also hated the real-life plot of seizing power via false-flags - of controlling both sides - of the emperor. That was a bit too close to home.

I couldn't agree more...

...It was as groundbreaking as what was done in the 70's....

heres the KEY: inspired from films and stories that are NOT Star Wars. Flying races , politics, whimsy, assasinations, war, drama, complacency, psychology, resentment and then tragedy.

Now all Star Wars is only inspired by Star Wars.

Respectfully and resignedly..

Mr Strangelight and Mr Punk..

I couldn't disagree more.

The prequels were terrible:

You could print off all the most insightful political commentary there is, that (((The Joooos))) don't like, lay it end to end and film it - that would still result in a shit film.

Lucas telling everyone beforehand that he'd based Episode II (2002) a large part on Film noir and detective movies .. then we get a tracking shot into an actual American Diner complete with a bunch of holographic Aliens playing American Football in the foreground. Great suspension of disbelief.

The Gladiator (2000) scenes from 2 years before that were copied shot for shot except no-one gave a shit about these copied scenes cos it was all (acting included) so cartoony.

The ESPN style commentators during the pod-racing in episode I. It was like watching South Park and not in a good way.

All Lucas' bad chickens came home to roost.

Not least the fact that he can't get his actors to emote.
He sits or stands them in circles and
one talks, everyone stands still and stares, the one finishes, the others all nod, then someone else starts up, they all look on in freeze mode, she finishes, they all nod etc. etc.

Ive already documented on this thread how Terence Stamp tried to work on his acting chemistry with Natalie Portman and instead he was told that she wouldn't be there for their scenes together - he had to talk to a smily face on a stick instead.

Cos it was all green screen..

All of it.

And the actors were given crude prompts as to the 'mind-blowing!' scenes that were unfolding around them.
That they had to react to..
Cue the most wooden and comical acting seen for many a year.

As the spoof magazine cover said.. Amazing special effects that even at the time - "Still Look Kind of Fake"

During Episode III, watched in a packed cinema in a poor neighbourhood in the UK, the audience laughed all the way through - just at all the wrong bits.
Especially at Hayden Christensen's 'Faustian" 'tortured' over-acting.

I particularly liked his and Natalie Portmans romance scenes in Episode II - just.. witty, seductive and beautifully acted.. and all at the same time.

I could go on .. but TL: DR - it was just shit.

I'm somewhere between you and Simeon on the prequels. They definitely weren't great. I'd hesitate to even call them good. At the same time, I don't think they're as bad as the general public insists. There was some really good stuff. That car chase in Corsucant in II was cool, as was pretty much all of McGregor's Obi Wan. Darth Maul was awesome (I agree with the video I linked above that killing him off in I was the biggest mistake of the whole trilogy). I liked that bug creature that was Anakin's slave master too. Even Jar Jar wasn't that much more annoying than C3-PO, imo.

Just, for various reasons, the sum of the parts didn't come together to make cool movies that you feel like watching over and over and characters that you care about deeply like the originals. Still, the prequels had some things going for them.

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Taken by themselves with no context as generic sci-fi films the prequels would have sat around 2.5 to 3 stars as "a bit bland but with good special effects (for the time)".

People that just wanted new Star Wars movies were happy. People who set the bar high for their beloved franchise were not happy. Lucas sure screwed the pooch on a lot of stuff there, but when something is that popular and your fan base in literally inter-generational you're never going to please everyone. Frankly to some extent I think he just said "screw it, it's my film and I'm going to make it for me, and if anyone doesn't like it they can suck eggs."

Now will someone please make a pod-race spoof where they replace Anakin with Dominic Toretto.

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Riddle me this...let's say you are on board with the wokeness of the new trilogy and you are even cool with the way Luke and Han were treated...and you like the new characters...even if you are that brain-dead:

How the hell can you not see that the new trilogy has no overall arc, structure or direction?! It goes nowhere. Worst. Storytelling. Ever.

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(09-06-2019 03:28 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  The Prequels did not destroy the Star Wars lore.

The Prequels still manifested countless toys which sold like crazy and many still are collectibles.

Furthermore the Prequels DID NOT DESTROY STAR WARS.

Apart from that they had groundbreaking never-before seen scenes and manifested a huge sprawling world of the Star Wars universe.

The hatred is ill-adviced.

Whatever - it does not matter anyway.

Me (Denis Hopper) telling Simeon (Christopher Walken) that the Prequels weren't very good (swap out Sicilians for Germans and sprinkle in some IQ slurs)





(09-06-2019 09:05 PM)bucky Wrote:  Even Jar Jar wasn't that much more annoying than C3-PO, imo.

You lost me there.

(09-06-2019 03:16 PM)Syberpunk Wrote:  I think you'll enjoy these as I did (they're excerpts from longer spoofs which have a coherent story)




That video was awesome. Smile

(09-06-2019 03:28 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  The Prequels did not destroy the Star Wars lore.

>>>They kind of did<<<

Furthermore the Prequels DID NOT DESTROY STAR WARS.

Despite the flaws the prequels were fine for Star Wars despite some people getting their panties in a bunch over it. The current Sequels are the ones which destroy the franchise so that no one gives two shits about it anymore.

Personally, I wish the prequels had never been made. Just leave it at the slightly disappointing ROTJ.

No Soy-lo, no Terrible Fucking Rogue One with its wanker fucking "strong female lead", its muslim terrorist hero picked to continue his role from Four Lions (Disney doesn't get satire obviously), No fucking animated cereal-box toy selling shit..

Well, the "sequels" have done the job for us in their own way.

Maybe the Bug-Man has created amazing Rey movies in his mind - but we will never see them.

We will never see Episode IX.
We will read about it. We will laugh about it.

Raw God is right - they don't even have the basics required of movies.

When people say "You're/he's/it's.. dead to me" its usually with emotion and upset.
Not this movie. I am singularly uncurious.
the long telegraphed death of Star Wars ended for me with the pre-advice about TLJ. Never watched that movie, never will.

I hate all the endless comic book sequels and re-boots but I'm pretty excited to see the new Joker movie. Derivative or not, pretentious or not, the trailers deserve an Oscar on their own.

As for "wanker wanker fuck-stick" or whatever the latest Star Wars movie is called, I keep forgetting its coming out.
Its going to be like the Aussie soap Opera "Home and Away' for British viewers.
We used to be glued to it in the late 80's and early 90's.
Now?
They're still making it apparently - just nobody watches it anymore.
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To me there was one really good Star Wars movie: the first one. It was great entertainment in the theater when it came out and remains watchable today as a good popcorn film w/a bit of heft (thank you, Alec Guinness). The 2nd one started out well and was OK, if overrated... then the series went way downhill from there. I gave up on it a few movies ago. In retrospect I should have given up on it 35 years ago. It's too shallow to hold much interest.
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I actually liked some of the over-arching themes in the prequels and I think that SS is correct in saying that they touched a bit too close to home for some of the other (((Hollywood moguls))). Palpatine playing two sides against each other in order to install himself as the Emperor was pretty satisfying to watch, even knowing exactly how it would end. Not "movie of the century" type stuff but IMO it absolutely cleared the bar for enjoyable and rewatchable.

Sadly the hokey Anakin/Padme garbage meandered from boring to legitimately creepy. C3P0 was annoying in the original trilogy but in a comic kind of way whereas the Aquatic Jamaican in the prequels was total cringe, in no small part because the special effects never really convinced you he was actually there, being seen, felt and engaged with by the human characters. I think you could make one really good movie out of the three prequels or two excellent movies but over the course of 3 movies a lot of it just felt gratuitous on Lucas' behalf.

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I'm subscribed to this Scotish composer's channel and he has a good analysis of how the music from the films actually mirrors the decline of the series.

I actually think the prequels were deeper (and the music better), despite Jar Jar Binks and Hayden Christensen, than the original trilogy. The final confrontation between Anakin and Obi Wan was very above average in terms of intensity and depth.

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Some people in this thread ought to read up on the Darth Jar Jar theory.

Jar Jar was supposed to be the Phantom Menace, the Sith lord orchestrating all the events of the prequel trilogy.

They wanted him to be the Star Wars version of the Mule from Asimov's Foundation series.

When the first movie was released, the backlash over the character was so enormous that they (felt they) had to rewrite the whole plot.

Which killed the prequels.

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(09-06-2019 09:37 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Taken by themselves with no context as generic sci-fi films the prequels would have sat around 2.5 to 3 stars as "a bit bland but with good special effects (for the time)".

People that just wanted new Star Wars movies were happy. People who set the bar high for their beloved franchise were not happy. Lucas sure screwed the pooch on a lot of stuff there, but when something is that popular and your fan base in literally inter-generational you're never going to please everyone. Frankly to some extent I think he just said "screw it, it's my film and I'm going to make it for me, and if anyone doesn't like it they can suck eggs."

Now will someone please make a pod-race spoof where they replace Anakin with Dominic Toretto.


Personally I think the overarching plot was a great backdrop. The Old Republic is portrayed as a regime where the galaxy has grown complacent through peace, and is too weak to effectively respond to provocations like a blatant attack on a member state, while being attacked from within through subversion and subterfuge.


Lukas's capabilities as a scriptwriter and director completely failed to do justice to that story arc.
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(09-06-2019 03:28 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  The Prequels did not destroy the Star Wars lore.

The Prequels still manifested countless toys which sold like crazy and many still are collectibles.

The Prequels created countless fan fiction movies.

Furthermore the Prequels DID NOT DESTROY STAR WARS.

Apart from that they had groundbreaking never-before seen scenes and manifested a huge sprawling world of the Star Wars universe.

Yes - some ideas were corny and the acting advice of Lucas were a bit too stilted at times etc. Somewhat flawed movies don't make really bad movies like Farce Awakens or The Last Turd.

Despite the flaws the prequels were fine for Star Wars despite some people getting their panties in a bunch over it. The current Sequels are the ones which destroy the franchise so that no one gives two shits about it anymore.

The hatred is ill-adviced. I still remember the Red Letter Media crapheads defending Episode VII because the morons built their channel on Prequel hatred and now couldn't well admit that Disney created a steaming heap that was far inferior to the Prequels. They only had to admit defeat after Episode VIII.

Whatever - it does not matter anyway. It's gone and dusted. They will continue to pump out one turd after another while getting ever more woke until no one cares anymore. They will redo a woke version of the Original Trilogy likely in 7-8 years if anyone cares at that time. They have to put in so much agenda in it that they will inevitable bomb the entire franchise.

Simeon, I've watched Red Letter Media and some of their videos. They come across as a bunch of middle-aged fanboys and failed filmmakers. Just the way they talk they act like some washed-up athlete reminiscing about their glory days. It was funny to see them complain how Star Wars is no longer good considering they had a huge hand in making that happen.
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Quote:I still remember the Red Letter Media crapheads defending Episode VII

They defended specific aspects of it and maybe didn't shit on it as much as everyone wanted them to. Big deal.

Quote:It was funny to see them complain how Star Wars is no longer good considering they had a huge hand in making that happen.

They are just critics that posted criticism, some of which is excessive, a lot is rude, and some is outright wrong. But most of it is true. If the new filmmakers are too awful to parse the good criticism from the bad, that's not the fault of the critics. The prequels are not good movies. They have redeeming qualities, they are better than the new movies and didn't "destroy Star Wars," but it's not RLM's fault that Kathleen Kennedy was put in charge at Lucasfilm. It's not RLM's fault that Disney decided to shit out movies as fast as possible without as much as an outline for where the story was going to go.
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(09-09-2019 06:16 PM)Blaster Wrote:  
Quote:I still remember the Red Letter Media crapheads defending Episode VII

They defended specific aspects of it and maybe didn't shit on it as much as everyone wanted them to. Big deal.

Quote:It was funny to see them complain how Star Wars is no longer good considering they had a huge hand in making that happen.

They are just critics that posted criticism, some of which is excessive, a lot is rude, and some is outright wrong. But most of it is true. If the new filmmakers are too awful to parse the good criticism from the bad, that's not the fault of the critics. The prequels are not good movies. They have redeeming qualities, they are better than the new movies and didn't "destroy Star Wars," but it's not RLM's fault that Kathleen Kennedy was put in charge at Lucasfilm. It's not RLM's fault that Disney decided to shit out movies as fast as possible without as much as an outline for where the story was going to go.

Abrams's friends watched RLM and Plinkett Star Wars Reviews (Damon Lindelof tweeted them for example), Rian Johnson watches and said he was scared shitless by them, RLM got a lot of unexpected popularity and respect for those reviews from big shots, and I wager that has them slightly uneasy on turning their guns on the very same Abrams/Bad Robot/Disney wheelhouse for not being better.....but actually worse.

They don't want to going back to being (relatively unknown) nobodies in a warehouse and are older anyway. Though they are fairly scathing of The Last Jedi and the whole nerd culture hysteria around which I do find refreshing and endlessly amusing, the dead eyed cynicism of consumerism to fill the void in the spiritually hollowed west.





His statement about Kennedy getting up there pounding the podium and frothing is hilarious and sad.




Somebody else picked the mantle of those reviews in that voice, no punches pulled, and its brilliant, 2 parts, I didn't think anymore could be said about this film, but he dives into why it doesn't work on a emotional level without diving into aspie territory as many do:



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(09-09-2019 06:16 PM)Blaster Wrote:  
Quote:I still remember the Red Letter Media crapheads defending Episode VII

They defended specific aspects of it and maybe didn't shit on it as much as everyone wanted them to. Big deal.

Quote:It was funny to see them complain how Star Wars is no longer good considering they had a huge hand in making that happen.

They are just critics that posted criticism, some of which is excessive, a lot is rude, and some is outright wrong. But most of it is true. If the new filmmakers are too awful to parse the good criticism from the bad, that's not the fault of the critics. The prequels are not good movies. They have redeeming qualities, they are better than the new movies and didn't "destroy Star Wars," but it's not RLM's fault that Kathleen Kennedy was put in charge at Lucasfilm. It's not RLM's fault that Disney decided to shit out movies as fast as possible without as much as an outline for where the story was going to go.

Please - they literally said that Rey is no Mary Sue, she was just "confused" when she whopped Krylo Emo's ass with no training. She just happened to be better at fixing his own ship than Han Solo!

They changed tunes only later.

I saw the writing on the wall almost instantly.

The scene where Mary Sue complains that she is a strong wahmen and does not need no man's help. Why do they need to do this? They could have not done it, but they did it to push a strong feminist point - deliberately. Then they turned Finn into a sweating mass of cowardly janitor and not the force-sensitive black stormtrooper. But you cannot have srong men next to the Mary Sue.

The sheisters likely saw it, but then realized: "Oh shit - this is a hundred times worse than the Prequels and we built our channels on Prequel bashing, let's pretend that this crap isn't so bad."

Only later did they turn around.

Though - who cares - no on is perfect and those guys do have valid critiques where they haven't boxxed themselves into corners like the prequels.

Their assessment of Star Trek Discovery was great and so is most other movies even if no one sees everything the same. They thought that Bladerunner was boring and uninspiring - heh.





Those guys are still legion better than all the other shill paid-for critics out there.
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(09-07-2019 10:07 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  Some people in this thread ought to read up on the Darth Jar Jar theory.

Jar Jar was supposed to be the Phantom Menace, the Sith lord orchestrating all the events of the prequel trilogy.

They wanted him to be the Star Wars version of the Mule from Asimov's Foundation series.

When the first movie was released, the backlash over the character was so enormous that they (felt they) had to rewrite the whole plot.

Which killed the prequels.

Sad!

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It's a funny idea, but I thought no one really took it seriously.

Am I the only one who thought that sure, Jar Jar was annoying, but not really much more annoying than C3PO? I didn't really hate the character. Seemed like he might have been OK if they'd dialed him down a bit in II and III.

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The Last Jedi makes the prequels look like like award winning film-making.
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RE: The Star Wars thread
(09-10-2019 09:33 AM)Enoch Wrote:  The Last Jedi makes the prequels look like like award winning film-making.

Disagree. I thought that too after I saw TLJ so went back and (tried to) watch Episode 1. I found it utterly unwatchable and couldn't make it even 1/3rd of the way through.

This isn't to say that TLJ is BETTER than Episode 1. They are both really horrible movies. But at the very least TLJ has some okay cinematography and action set pieces. I think Episode 1 really only has the Darth Maul duel of the fates fight. Everything else is horrible.

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RE: The Star Wars thread
It's interesting that the Prequel hate was led and directed by the mainstream media. Ahmed Best from Jar Jar fame got bullied not by fans because then there were hardly any loud media outlets like Youtube or Twitter.

It was all led by Huffpo writers and even a book was written by a Huffpo writer:

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You may not like it personally, but the Prequels have millions of fans and I personally don't mind them, they are still Star Wars and they expanded the universe.

When I see mainstream media talking points repeated, then I perk up when I hear criticism.

You will see what you have with the sheisters destroying a franchise. Disney created supposedly multiple endings and they screen-tested them. They are currently doing reshoots 3 months before the publication. I guess that the reactions were all bad from the test screenings.

They are likely throwing everything into the frey, but it won't amount to anything having to be woke and being led by the hack of JJ Abrams who only is good in terms of visuals.

I have mentioned it - Hollywood absolutely hated Lucas because he was independent. Ah well - does not matter - it's gone now - sperging out about some inconsistencies in innovative movies like the Prequels won't matter. The NPC media specifically piled on it - and they funnily enough did not like the original Star Wars either, but had no chance against the fan support.
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RE: The Star Wars thread
(Yesterday 06:16 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  ...
I have mentioned it - Hollywood absolutely hated Lucas because he was independent. ...

Maybe that's it...

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Or maybe it's something else...

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RE: The Star Wars thread
Yeah - that take was noted by (((them))) for sure:

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* greasy merchant - check
* slave holder - check
* fairly strong mental powers impervious to brainwashing - check
* causing his own demise by his greed - check

And the false flag plot by the emperor was NOT ABOUT BUSH per se. It was around the time of 9/11 and the entire plotline struck a bit too close to home.

No wonder that fucking Huffpo journalists wrote BLOODY HIT-PIECE BOOKS against the movies! They were the most notable critics from 2000-2006. No one gave a shit about Facebook blogs back then. The current social media landscape started only later. Otherwise the toys would not have sold like crazy with new popular games being released. You wouldn't find Anakin figurines rotting in the shelves 3 years later being discounted for 49 cents.

The "fan uprising" was just the usual (((critics))) and globohomo pushers who got their marching orders from above.
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RE: The Star Wars thread
The slaveowner was an obvious semitic caricature, which is rare in Hollywood. Mind you we were also treated to the "((Jaw))-as" in A New Hope (which was lost on me because I was kid).

It was a shit caricature in the prequel because it was so obvious and so fake and so unfunny - where were the strange and mysterious creatures living in a galaxy far far away .. a long time ago?
Where's the suspension of disbelief?

Instead it was just George Lucas' shitty caricatures, the puppet strings leading back to him and his crappy humour at the same time that he was showing us his limited creativity.

The thing is - one can't argue a musical piece into being incredible if it isn't.
Can't present how anti-group-think a painting is ... and that's why it should be beautiful.
But its not beautiful..
But look at the ideas behind it - it should be beautiful.
But it isn't.
By the way here are all the incredible reasons why this music should be beautiful to listen to.
But it isn't.

Badly acted, fake special effects, terrible dialogue, klunky/boring plots, total disappointment, total lack of engagement for the viewer..

Face it Simeon, the whole world wasn't hoodwinked by a (((gigantic)) (((conspiracy)))..


No, the prequels were SHIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiT. They were so shit...

But, each to their own.
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RE: The Star Wars thread
Meh.

I think the Battle of Coruscant was worth the price of admission alone.




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RE: The Star Wars thread
Have Rey "come out of the closet", and get into a relationship with the Asian chick. We find out the reason for Kylo's angst is because he is a woman stuck in a man's body. Rey gives him a "sex change" with her lightsaber, and he starts wearing a dress and makeup. Have the story revolve around an evil orange hair Sith, who wants to build a space wall, blocking off half the galaxy from the poor side. The climax comes when Rey and Kylo blow the wall up by using the Force to project good feelings at it.

Also Rey will learn not only how to become the greatest force user; she will then teach the force to be "better".
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(Today 10:44 AM)Syberpunk Wrote:  Have Rey "come out of the closet", and get into a relationship with the Asian chick. We find out the reason for Kylo's angst is because he is a woman stuck in a man's body. Rey gives him a "sex change" with her lightsaber, and he starts wearing a dress and makeup. Have the story revolve around an evil orange hair Sith, who wants to build a space wall, blocking off half the galaxy from the poor side. The climax comes when Rey and Kylo blow the wall up by using the Force to project good feelings at it.

Also Rey will learn not only how to become the greatest force user; she will then teach the force to be "better".

I like this video creator, this is a good nuanced exploration, they have no grasp of what good storytelling is, how Rey ought be a lot more rough around the edges, giving her background:



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