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(12-01-2019 09:09 AM)budoslavic Wrote:  

Perfect campaign - feminist empowering, body-positive, diverse, not rewarding the male gaze there, turning a 30+ year old woman into a childish behavior. It would look stupid with a man doing that, but with an old fat not attractive woman who triest to look tough it's even worse.

Disney is blasting out the ads like crazy now. They are spending hundreds of millions in marketing. It truly seems that they will have a break-even at 1.5 bio. to 2.0 bio. $. Good - let them target the wine mom segment for Star Wars. I hope that not too many will go see it.

Knives out by the way is more successful than hoped and this might mean that Rian Johnson will be allowed to do another Star Wars movie. Good - let it all burn.
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Disney is not only SJW infested, but at the same time incompetent and clueless.





The baby Yoda looks cute and everyone could have told them that they could have made tens of millions at least if they produced some baby Yoda merch.

But no - Disney likely got burned by all those unsold Rey and Tico merch, so why should people buy baby Yoda? Get this - dozens of counterfeit Baby Yoda products already came out because Disney has nothing. They are so incompetent and dumb.

Disneystarwarsisdumb is absolutely correct on many levels.

Also rumors are that a strong woman will replace Mando the fake Mandalorian midway of the show. This buff-looking actress will simply take his armor after he dies - bait and switch we are. The show already does not make much sense anyway.
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The woke & broke thing is not a bug, it's a feature. They have been doing the same thing for almost a decade, progressively pushing the wokeness, not minding the fact they are breaking even or losing money. They are fully aware of what they are doing. When they make huge profits they use it to subvert the laws and culture of their host nation. If they don't make a profit and break even they win because they further pushed the cultural Overton Window towards the left. If they lose money, it's just a tax write off for future years and (((they))) are the only game in town anyway so they can afford to keep doing so funneling all the expenditures to their tribesmen like JJ. The ultimate goal is subversion of your culture and your laws to better consolidate their power over your country. If they end up making lots of profit, then that's obviously good for them too.
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It's very telling isn't it?

George Lucas interests: anthropology, lineage and the human condition, reconnecting people with a greater source

JJ Abrams interests: remaking and piggybacking on his favourite 70's and 80's films.

What's his world view? This guy has been the hot stuff for a decade and a half and yet there's nothing to him but well shot scenes, getting good performances but his creative capacity is very limited

The man shouldn't be a more than a cinematographer. He's a journeyman director and producer.
I could listen to Lucas musing for hours on things that aren't even films.









I'll actually give Rian Johnson credit, he seems to have cracked a book or two and the Last Jedi borrows liberally from good samurai and war films (badly) so he would at least be a good conversationalist in something other than thrash pop culture. The man at least seems influenced by a broader range of things because unlike Abrams he started from nothing.

Looking at his resume, He was definitely a more esoteric pick than Abrams. Abrams always seemed ill-fitted to Star Wars despite protestations to the contrary, his best film is Mission Impossible 3 which is fluff, but damn good fluff.

We need more Werner Herzog/Lucas types, end of. These men hardly saw a film until their teenage years. They were LIVING. They had time to think. From the ether. Their synapses weren't overstimulated like most of us in the 80's/90's to today where there are screens everywhere. So that creative outlet in all of us gets sublimated.
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(12-02-2019 10:35 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  The woke & broke thing is not a bug, it's a feature. They have been doing the same thing for almost a decade, progressively pushing the wokeness, not minding the fact they are breaking even or losing money. They are fully aware of what they are doing. When they make huge profits they use it to subvert the laws and culture of their host nation. If they don't make a profit and break even they win because they further pushed the cultural Overton Window towards the left. If they lose money, it's just a tax write off for future years and (((they))) are the only game in town anyway so they can afford to keep doing so funneling all the expenditures to their tribesmen like JJ. The ultimate goal is subversion of your culture and your laws to better consolidate their power over your country. If they end up making lots of profit, then that's obviously good for them too.

I think there's something more - it's obviously subversion, but that subversion is also translated into profits, if indirectly. Consider, for example, that even a movie that nobody sees will still be talked about, will still be shunned, people will actually contribute to the 'movie business' by shitting on it. The entertainment-driven mindset is as served by a good movie as by a bad - and if it's extremely bad, it's even better. People will be demanding better entertainment, instead of considering they should be less entertained, why they crave so much entertainment in the first place, etc. The fact that all these corporations are ultimately in the hands of the same people, they lose money here but get it there, the only objective is to promote sterile, consumerist activities - they might lose money with this movie, but they will make it in the next movie, or Netflix, or HBO, or whatever else. It's the same with trans dolls or whatever: there isn't really a high demand for it, but the people will then steer their consumption to other companies - which use the same plants, the same materials, the same distributors. They win that money in the end, even if they seemingly let smaller companies win for a bit, they will be incorporated, bought off or sinked through the debt market. They have all the power. Someone pointed out when the Gillette thing came up that boycotting them was futile, because the same corporation at the top also owned pretty much all of their competitors, and even the ones they do not, another giant owns them, and many of their tentacles push the same stuff. They are merely testing the waters, seeing what works, and they won't lose any money. The only way to win is to stop and consider why you are buying most of these products in the first place, not from one company in particular, but from any company.

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I noted the Gillette boycott was socially relevant but financially irrelevant. Tanking their sales acts as a banner waving on the hill to rally the traditionalist troops but financially it means nothing to the oligarchy.

And you're absolutely on point about people being desperate to be entertained. There are times that I sadly come to conclude that my thought processes are so much different from 99 percent of other people because I consume a fraction of the video content they do. While they watch, I read and write (or type at least).

Without exaggeration the youtube videos posted here trashing the new films have a collective runtime ten times longer than the films themselves. IIRC one "takedown" by itself is actually as long as the film it critiques.

Quote:The entertainment-driven mindset is as served by a good movie as by a bad - and if it's extremely bad, it's even better. People will be demanding better entertainment, instead of considering they should be less entertained, why they crave so much entertainment in the first place, etc.

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Mess with people's endorphin hits and their diversions and they get angry. They can frame it in politics but nobody losing sleep over Star Wars films is going to be storming the Bastille any time soon.

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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/star...16232.html

‘Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker’: Finn and Poe Aren’t Boyfriends, but J.J. Abrams Hints at LGBTQ Representation

Quote:Striking a lightsaber into the hearts of “Star Wars” fans, it appears that a romance between Poe Dameron (Oscar Isaac) and Finn (John Boyega) will not materialize in “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.”

But that does not necessarily mean there won’t be any LGBTQ representation in the final film in the Skywalker saga, either.

The “Star Wars” fan community latched onto the notion of a romantic connection between Finn and Poe almost immediately after the premiere of “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” in 2015, ‘shipping the characters with hashtags like “FinnPoe” and “Stormpilot.”

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“And in the case of the LGBTQ community, it was important to me that people who go to see this movie feel that they’re being represented in the film,” Abrams said.

These people are fucking delusional! Yeah, the lack of fags and trannies in Star Wars is what the fans have been complaining about! Can't wait to see the box office numbers for this shit show!

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You would think they learned a lesson with the sales of Fat Asian Mechanic™️ toys. But no, just a few more LGBTXYZ characters and everyone will be dying to see the movie.
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(12-02-2019 08:35 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  The baby Yoda looks cute and everyone could have told them that they could have made tens of millions at least if they produced some baby Yoda merch.

But no - Disney likely got burned by all those unsold Rey and Tico merch, so why should people buy baby Yoda? Get this - dozens of counterfeit Baby Yoda products already came out because Disney has nothing. They are so incompetent and dumb.

Nowhere is the lack of competent corporate leadership for Lucasfilm more obvious than the fact that they don't have enough Baby Yoda merchandise ready for Xmas for kids. Putting on your Man in the High Castle hats, do you think George Lucas would have made that mistake if he were still in charge? He was Captain Merchandising™. I still think the decision to have Ewoks instead of Wookiees in Return of the Jedi was less practical and more marketing based. There is no way this opportunity would have escape him or anyone who actually learned about the business from him. Kathleen Kennedy is obviously inept and didn't learn anything from Lucas.

I know Lucasfilm's licensees are gun shy these days thanks to ugly sales from prior Disney Star Wars productions, but showing some footage of Baby Yoda likely would have turned that around.

To be fair, it's not that they have absolutely NOTHING available. I was able to find a licensed plushy Baby Yoda for sale. But there is definitely not anywhere near enough and they are going to miss out on millions this Xmas season because of it.

(12-02-2019 10:35 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  The woke & broke thing is not a bug, it's a feature. They have been doing the same thing for almost a decade, progressively pushing the wokeness, not minding the fact they are breaking even or losing money. They are fully aware of what they are doing. When they make huge profits they use it to subvert the laws and culture of their host nation. If they don't make a profit and break even they win because they further pushed the cultural Overton Window towards the left. If they lose money, it's just a tax write off for future years and (((they))) are the only game in town anyway so they can afford to keep doing so funneling all the expenditures to their tribesmen like JJ. The ultimate goal is subversion of your culture and your laws to better consolidate their power over your country. If they end up making lots of profit, then that's obviously good for them too.

While I agree there are people in the entertainment industry who are absolutely out to subvert culture while madly pushing a political agenda and that these people do not care if they make or lose money (Kennedy and Rian Johnson are two), there are still a lot of people in that industry who want to make money more than anything else - at least for the moment. These two forces are definitely at war in Hollywood right now, but for the moment the money grubbers have more influence than the cultural subversion squad.

This is why a predict Kennedy will lose her job (because she's a strong independent woman they will say it's voluntary) after Episode IX. I think she lost a lot of her power over the company already when Soylo lost money, if the rumours are true. They money grubbers will tolerate your far left political messaging (and even ally with you the way Jar Jar Abrams does) if it makes a tonne of money. Not so much if you don't.

The industry may flip to full subversion, however. Especially with the various monopolies cropping up.
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No, they'll "promote" her into some useless back office job.
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As for Kathleen Kennedy - she is in her 70s already. It's just that her Star Wars final job is more of a disgrace than a rise to glory.

The rumors all true about stupid JarJar-McGuffins like magic Sith-daggers. It was never ever anything about Star Wars. Even the lightsabers were nothing special because only force users would be able to use them - anyone else would better have a blaster.

I just hope that JarJar and his crew gets imploded, but somehow I doubt it - they are part of the tribe and are marxists. Plus they fired many Hollywood execs who were banging lots of starlets. So only the safe incels/pedos and incompetent women remained.
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(12-04-2019 02:15 PM)DannyAlberta Wrote:  
(12-02-2019 08:35 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  The baby Yoda looks cute and everyone could have told them that they could have made tens of millions at least if they produced some baby Yoda merch.

But no - Disney likely got burned by all those unsold Rey and Tico merch, so why should people buy baby Yoda? Get this - dozens of counterfeit Baby Yoda products already came out because Disney has nothing. They are so incompetent and dumb.

Nowhere is the lack of competent corporate leadership for Lucasfilm more obvious than the fact that they don't have enough Baby Yoda merchandise ready for Xmas for kids.

I think dozens of memos to sign off on baby Yoda products probably passed across her desk but she scanned them as they arrived, saw the word "baby" and reflexively replied with "abort", likely not even remembering the events except for a curious and temporary fog of the mind.

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At this point(after solo) I expect the film to be bad but I’m just hoping the video games are good/great. Battlefront 2 for ps4/Xbox one was a fantastic game (to me ) at least so I’m hoping we get something good to play

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Battlefront multiplayer stayed out of politics and without the OT and prequel trilogy characters and locations, then no one would even care about that shit.

The new game Fallen Order was also more as a coincidence and fixed in the working old Star Wars universe which isn't that difficult to replicate frankly. You can write so man good stories if you really wanted to. And women can of course be powerful since the force is not a male or female muscle, but you cannot make a character into a Mary Sue. Also the hero journey is badly applied to women. It simply does not work with them well.

In the Hunger Games the heroine is good and well in the beginning, shit just happens. The Luke trajectory follows the male hero myth because 18yo men don't have value - women at age 18 have in contrast the highest value by default. Now you could have still made it work by making Rey into some extra-tragic, extra-gritty backstory while adding the male archetype to Finn - a stormtrooper who happens to be force sensitive and rising to Jedi Mastership together with Rey.

But whatever - Disney Star Wars employs mainly SJWs and hacks like Abrams who love to mystery-box everything. That fucktard for example never had a clue or idea where to go to with Lost. The morons just made shit up. And Alias was a generic story design where they added travelling around and magic McGuffins - none of that meant anything or made much sense.

Guess it's actually better in the long run because Disney cannot put up so much clever propaganda up that way.
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(12-04-2019 02:04 AM)Reaper Wrote:  https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/star...16232.html

‘Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker’: Finn and Poe Aren’t Boyfriends, but J.J. Abrams Hints at LGBTQ Representation

Quote:Striking a lightsaber into the hearts of “Star Wars” fans, it appears that a romance between Poe Dameron (Oscar Isaac) and Finn (John Boyega) will not materialize in “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.”

But that does not necessarily mean there won’t be any LGBTQ representation in the final film in the Skywalker saga, either.

The “Star Wars” fan community latched onto the notion of a romantic connection between Finn and Poe almost immediately after the premiere of “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” in 2015, ‘shipping the characters with hashtags like “FinnPoe” and “Stormpilot.”

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“And in the case of the LGBTQ community, it was important to me that people who go to see this movie feel that they’re being represented in the film,” Abrams said.

These people are fucking delusional! Yeah, the lack of fags and trannies in Star Wars is what the fans have been complaining about! Can't wait to see the box office numbers for this shit show!

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"World's first multicultural society", are we supposed to pretend all those multiethnic empires and states that broke apart along ethnic and sectarian lines never existed?
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(Yesterday 03:39 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  The morons just made shit up. And Alias was a generic story design where they added travelling around and magic McGuffins - none of that meant anything or made much sense.

It's hard for me to not finish watching a TV series once I've started, but JJ Abrams's Alias has managed to worm its way into that exclusive club. The breaking point, other than the general accumulated idiocy of the characters constantly teleporting around the world into random action sequences with zero context or logic, was the episode in which a supposedly threatening and fearsome terrorist character was played by an actor with the charisma of a wet sponge. To this day, I have never seen a role so badly both miscast and poorly written; even the most abysmal D-grade budget movies do a better job than Alias did.





To his credit, JJ Abrams did a good job in the series Person of Interest, creating a genuinely original story that, while also often straining credibility, takes itself seriously and explores something new and interesting in an internally consistent world. I think that's the only work of his entire career where he can honestly claim that he actually produced something creative.

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(Yesterday 06:15 PM)Yatagan Wrote:  "World's first multicultural society", are we supposed to pretend all those multiethnic empires and states that broke apart along ethnic and sectarian lines never existed?

Yes. Also imagine that the world would be an utopia if women were in charge - they are the better leaders, fighters, soldiers, scientists - and thy can have children and are not toxic. Get it in your head!

Also - the movie Knives Out by Ruin Johnson is super-bad, it's hilarious Orange Man bad, White Man bad, West bad, non-West good, non-White good propaganda. It's sledgehammer indoctrination on the level of the Last Jedi - on top of being a lousy movie. Though everyone who wore a pussy-hat, is celebritard-infatuated and loves Hillary, hates Trump and is happy with Antifa - she/they will love it. The other people who went into it were blindsided by the marketing. It's also very dumb dialogue and story-telling - and a hilariously bad Southern-accent drooling Daniel Craig - it did not fit the persona at all.
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