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Pedophilia crimes and sexual abuse thread
Over the past couple of months there has been an increasing amount of propaganda from the left trying to normalize pedophilia. I've been noticing this trend going on and it's slowly picking up steam.

It started in July with an article about "treating" pedophiles with child sex robots and picked up steam a few days ago when Salon published a whiny piece from a self-admitted pedophile justifying his disgusting degeneracy and trying to make himself look like a victim in an article titled "I'm a pedophile, but not a monster." Then today cuckservatve Charles W. Cooke, who writes for National Review and describes himself as a "conservatarian" defended the propaganda piece. He is an atheist and tries to guilt Christian readers into accepting pedophiles because apparently he thinks it's what Jesus would do.

All of this made me recall that a bunch of posters here predicted that this would be the next thing the degenerate SJWs latched onto and they were right. It appears it's finally happening. The mask has slipped and the groundwork is currently being laid by the powers that be to try to normalize this deviant bullshit.

Milo over at Breitbart has written a good article on this that I'll post below.

Quote:HERE’S WHY THE PROGRESSIVE LEFT KEEPS STICKING UP FOR PEDOPHILES

Today, Salon gave a platform to a self-confessed pedophile to explain his urges in sympathetic terms. “I’m a Pedophile, But Not A Monster” reads the headline. It’s a long, self-pitying screed that ends with a call to be “understanding and supportive” of adults who crave sexual intimacy with children.

Forgive me if I’m not first to start the standing ovation. In fact I’m pretty sure most people will find the existence on Salon’s website of this post both shocking and distasteful.

The timing of Nickerson’s post, barely a week after multiple high-profile progressives rallied around progressive activist Sarah Nyberg, couldn’t be more suspect. Over the past two weeks, an alarming number of left-leaning commentators have rallied around the self-confessed transsexual pedophile and progressive activist who defended white nationalism.

In other words, progressives who got fired up about whether green and purple was a “rapey” colour scheme were suddenly fine with discussion of incestuous pedophilia from a 22-year-old in a chat room full of teenagers. It has been a somewhat grotesque spectacle to watch.

But these two incidents are merely just the latest in a disturbing trend of pedophilia activism on the Left, which has gone out on a limb time and time again to normalise child abuse. From the 1970s to the present day, organised pedophilia has been a recurring problem for the supposedly progressive movement.

The North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) had early support from Allen Ginsberg. In the UK, the Pedophile Information Exchange (PIE) sought acceptance on the Left by affiliating itself with the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), then run by prominent Left-wingers. Leading members of the Labour party, including Patricia Hewitt and Harriet Harman, were tarnished by their association with PIE, but many of them remain in positions of power in the Labour party.

There are plenty of decent left-wingers who are horrified by the attempts of pedophiles to piggyback on their movement, of course. It was former Labour minister Barbara Castle who sought to draw attention to the alleged pedophile rings of the British establishment in the 1980s. And the LGBT movement made an effort to ostracise NAMBLA after it tried to join the big tent of alternative sexualities.

Those few trendy progressives who actually have kids aren’t exactly runaway successes as parents and enthusiastically include them in drug-fuelled desert orgies or force them to swear in political broadcasts or take them to “Slut Walks.” But you get the sense that the majority of campaigners don’t have children of their own, or they’d speak rather differently.

Pedophilia itself is of course not confined to one side of the political spectrum. But defending it does seem to be. Pro-pedophile activism continues to surface on the Left in a way that it simply doesn’t on the Right. Salon is one of the worst offenders: the left-wing website runs sympathetic features on pedophilia with alarming regularity.

In 2012, the site ran a story entitled “Meet the Pedophiles Who Mean Well“ about a group called “Virtuous Pedophiles,” who resolve never to have sex with children. (Sarah Nyberg made reference to this group in her leaked chat logs.) In the aftermath of Ariel Castro’s initial court appearance in 2013, Salon ran an op-ed entitled “Our Approach to Pedophilia Isn’t Working,” which argued that pedophilia ought to be treated as a medical issue rather than a moral one.

Yet, incredibly, Salon is by no means alone. In the aftermath of the Jimmy Savile scandal in the UK, the Guardian published a feature carrying the disturbing claim that there is “not even a full academic consensus on whether consensual paedophilic relations necessarily cause harm.” Even left-wing comedy websites are complaining about society’s “misunderstanding” of pedophiles, and their writers post pictures of their own children to pedophiles in “support” when the self-confessed perverts are outed.

What’s happening here? Why are defences of pedophilia so rampant on the Left? And why are pedophiles so attracted to the progressive movement, as opposed to conservatism, libertarianism, or even anarcho-capitalism?

The most likely answer may be difficult for left-leaning readers to accept. For decades, moral relativism has underpinned radical left-wing thought. This is particularly clear when we look at how abuses in Muslim communities are treated. When the Conservative government in Canada labeled female genital mutilation and forced marriages as “barbaric cultural practices,” they were criticised by leading Canadian leftists.

See also: the breeziness with which feminists ignore abuses against women all across the Muslim world, and the timidity of gay rights campaigners to challenge Muslims on gay rights. Not Islamists, you understand, but mainstream Islamic society, in which simply being gay can get you killed in a dozen countries or more. Oh, and Rotherham, where moral relativism and the fear of being seen as “racist” got 1,200 white girls raped.

In the U.S, where a left-wing administration is in charge, relativism has even seeped into the military. As was recently reported, American soldiers in Afghanistan are now being instructed to ignore the sexual abuse of boys by Afghan allies. Campaigners against religious barbarism like the UK’s National Secular Society have condemned the relativism at the heart of radical left-wing identity politics, but to no avail.

It’s easy to see why pedophile activists would be attracted to a movement that makes excuses for practices like FGM. If the mutilation of little girls can be defended on the grounds of cultural relativism — “that’s just how they are” — what can’t be defended?

Anarcho-capitalists and libertarians may wish to dismantle many social and legal checks on personal behaviour, but they draw a hard line around behaviour that harms or violates the rights of others. Relativists have no such rules: by definition, they don’t believe in universal rules at all.

Horrifyingly, there are signs of a new pedophile acceptance movement forming on the Left. Just as Allen West warned, the gay rights movement is being used as a template. First comes the argument that pedophiles are just “born that way,” absolving them of any moral responsibility for their desires. Then comes the argument that pedophiles are just normal people, like the rest of us, but somehow impoverished or victimised by their own condition.

Inevitably, our society’s current ostracisation of pedophiles will be portrayed as an injustice: an oppression from which pedophiles must be liberated, or for which they deserve our sympathy. And woe to the oppressors! Quietly, in progressive columns and academies around the world, progressives are losing their footing and sliding down that slippery slope. Publications like Salon are abetting the turpitude.

“Acceptance” and relativism are essential tools of the partisan Left, which abandons all sense of moral consistency when one of its own is accused. The furious defence of Sarah Nyberg was redolent of the Lena Dunham scandal, in which similarly bizarre and disturbing revelations about Dunham’s relationship with her sister were defended to the hilt by media luvvies.

You know, a bit like how the BBC covered up for Savile for all those years. Just about the only kiddy-diddlers leftists don’t stick up for are Catholic priests, for reasons best known to themselves.

Compare this to conservative molester Josh Duggar, who can only muster support from has-beens like Mike Huckabee. The rest of the conservative movement, from National Review to Breitbart, were unequivocal in their condemnation of the Duggars. But for the hysterical defenders of Nyberg and Dunham, principle — not to mention the safety of children — can’t be allowed to come before politics.

Aggressive public displays of virtue are where the morally deplorable hide. The trend of social justice warriors with closets full of skeletons is common enough to be a meme at this point. It might even be part of the job description. Whether by cleansing progressives of sin through virtue signalling, or simply enabling them to hide in plain sight, slacktivism provides a welcoming environment for scammers and the unsavoury, which is why progressives protect their own: they know it could be any of them next.

The one silver lining is that such people are set to lose the support of the centre. Nyberg’s defenders hoped that the story would be contained in anti-establishment publications like Breitbart. But now it’s spreading to the mainstream, with critics of Breitbart stepping into the fray to admit that the response from the Left has been hypocritical and troubling.

Eyebrows were raised when the media elite collectively decided to make transgenderism “the next civil rights frontier,” because although most people are deeply sympathetic to that condition, the science is very much out on treatment pathways. But this is really, as we say in England, something else.

It is particularly crucial to protect children from pedophiles in the age of the internet, when adults have unprecedented access to minors via internet forums, chat rooms and gaming. Children get phones and tablets earlier and earlier, and nearly all kids play such social games.

Twenty-first century pedophiles aren’t hanging around school gates with candy: they’re lurking online, like Sarah Nyberg. And parents are in some cases decades behind the times when it comes to protecting their little ones.

Radical leftists may be planning to make pedophilia another front in their civil rights battles, but it won’t happen without a fight. Nor should it.

"Men willingly believe what they wish." - Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico, Book III, Ch. 18
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RE: The Push to Normalize Pedophilia Begins
On the one hand, there are rumors that many powerful men are pedophiles. Clearly they would benefit from such a normalization. On the other hand, it is foreign to think pedophilia could ever be normalized. Think of all the legislation passed under the cry "won't you please think of the children"?

My gut says it is black propaganda.

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^ What they will try and do is make it popular for pedo relationships to form. Just a matter of time before some celebrity announces his young boyfriend on the cover of Vanity Fair. Then you'll see young girls who are sold to powerful men. It's already happening en masse in Europe but very covered up.

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RE: The Push to Normalize Pedophilia Begins
They can normalise it all they want. Any man who would sexually assault a child of any decent man wouldn't live for very long if he was caught.

I believe the act of pedophilia is such a vile act that many people close their minds to it.
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This is one crime that I doubt will ever have any mainstream sympathy especially from parents with children. This is known as one of the worst crimes humanity has for a reason. In prisons they have to separate them because people hate them more than murderers.

It's so vile, disgusting and unnatural that these people that commit these acts should be put to death immediately.
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(09-22-2015 05:42 PM)realologist Wrote:  This is one crime that I doubt will ever have any mainstream sympathy especially from parents with children. This is known as one of the worst crimes humanity has for a reason. In prisons they have to separate them because people hate them more than murderers.

It's so vile, disgusting and unnatural that these people that commit these acts should be put to death immediately.

Ah but how much power do parents have over raising their children today? Step out of line and the Government comes and takes your children. More and more children are owned by the state. . .
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All the pushing the gay agenda talk is one thing, the fear mongering to pedophiles is next is whackadoodle talk.
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RE: The Push to Normalize Pedophilia Begins
"They" won't be advocating child abuse to begin with.

As per the recent Salon article, "They'll" be promoting victimhood of paedophiles.
They'll promote the "plight" of paedophiles.
"Understanding" & "non-shaming".

Of course, the only understanding we'll need to know about paedophiles; is whether they've been castrated or not.
Don't give a damn if castration changes their innate desires or not.
Castrate the fools anyway.

Yet also bear in mind, that "normalization" of paedophilia is just one aspect of the broader range program
to subvert & undermine traditional western civilization.
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I think others have mentioned it before that this is the next step the liberal left have for their LGBQTPWTFBBQ agenda. I can't see this really ending. After pedophilia what is next? Animals? Dead people? Aliens? Plants?

I can never see this ever being normalised. Despite how much power the liberal left have no one sane is going to be remotely okay with this.

What is even more fucked up is that there are no reports of a lynch mob going around to this sick fuckers house yet when some dentist shoots a giant cat the leftist cunts form a lynch mob there. Fucking hell their priorities are fucked and never a good hard kick in the teeth to sort themselves out.
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(09-22-2015 05:35 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  They can normalise it all they want. Any man who would sexually assault a child of any decent man wouldn't live for very long if he was caught.

I believe the act of pedophilia is such a vile act that many people close their minds to it.

I want to believe this. I remember in my youth that there was a real risk that two gay dudes walking down the street at night would be beaten, now they can have a parade.

My only hope for this is that they roll out the pedo acceptance too early and the pendulum swings back hard, and takes back more ground beyond just shutting the door on having a pedo bear balloon in the macy's thanksgiving parade.

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(09-23-2015 05:59 AM)JordanH Wrote:  I think others have mentioned it before that this is the next step the liberal left have for their LGBQTPWTFBBQ agenda. I can't see this really ending. After pedophilia what is next? Animals? Dead people? Aliens? Plants?

Of course it doesn't end. Many people falsely see the Left as being a 'group' of people advocating some ideas. However this is looking at it on the per-person level. If you zoom out to the species level, Leftism is merely 'social degeneration'.

The Left doesn't stop because they are not merely a group of people seeking to achieve an aim. The Left is a sociological phenomenon. It is like a fire. And fires do not stop once they've burned down 60% of a building, or some other arbitrary amount, they continue so long as there is any building remaining.
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There's no doubt 'normalization' of paedophilia will be a more difficult pill to swallow for the west.
Which is why the current focus will be 'understanding' & providing 'support' to those that don't quite abuse children (supposedly).
Yet those that promote this lunacy, are in it for the long game.

The ends justify the means.

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A nice summary from MikeCF's twitter:
1. Organize
2. Humanize
3. Legalize
4. Legitimize
5. Litigate
6. Repeat

I'm sure you can recognize all the steps as we went through it with homosexuals, and I guess it is pretty obvious that we are in second stage with pedophiles. Be warned.
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The push for homosexuality occurred when resources were plentiful. With resource scarcity however people will not be so forgiving.
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I'm not sure if they would be capable of normalising male paedophilia whilst keeping the current rhetoric going surrounding rape and consent. What's very possible, however, is that they will be successful in normalising female abusers, as others have said in the past.

People are much less willing to see women as the perpetrators of violent or sexual crimes, so that's probably where the frontier will be. People talking about "understanding" paedophilia are just there to shift the Overton window:

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(09-23-2015 06:52 AM)FilipSRB Wrote:  A nice summary from MikeCF's twitter:
1. Organize
2. Humanize
3. Legalize
4. Legitimize
5. Litigate
6. Repeat

I'm sure you can recognize all the steps as we went through it with homosexuals, and I guess it is pretty obvious that we are in second stage with pedophiles. Be warned.

Yep. Same old play-book.
Push the envelope this > < far.
Switch to a new political battle.
Then repeat the playbook.

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(09-23-2015 07:13 AM)Ocelot Wrote:  I'm not sure if they would be capable of normalising male paedophilia whilst keeping the current rhetoric going surrounding rape and consent. What's very possible, however, is that they will be successful in normalising female abusers, as others have said in the past.

People are much less willing to see women as the perpetrators of violent or sexual crimes, so that's probably where the frontier will be. People talking about "understanding" paedophilia are just there to shift the Overton window:

Trying to make paedophiles as victims make me think about the next step: Make women rent their uterus
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Jesus tap dancing Christ. How have we gotten here? Ok, I'll concede that peadophiles should get something from society at large:

1. Due process under the law.
2. Lethal injection.
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Liberalism:
-Pedophelia is O.K.
-Dating college girls is creepy.

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(09-23-2015 08:46 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  Liberalism:
-Pedophelia is O.K.
-Dating college girls is creepy.

Leftists hate developed breasts on a thin, healthy body. Fat bodies past a tipping point are about as genderless as pre-pubescent children, so they've been pushing fat acceptance. A generation of western women do not really know how to be attractive, to the point they mostly dress like pre-teens. They have pre-teen attitudes about relationships and home care. These attitudes are progressive. Consciously or not, the public at large is having their perceptions of the opposite sex pushed into earlier and earlier stages of life, and I cannot help but see a connection there to the push for pedophile acceptance now.

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(09-23-2015 08:46 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  Liberalism:
-Pedophelia is O.K.
-Dating college girls is creepy.

I guess the conclusion we can draw from this is that no one can date/bang a woman under the age of 27 and no one can date/bang a man under the age of 6 months.
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RE: The Push to Normalize Pedophilia Begins
(09-22-2015 05:35 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  They can normalise it all they want. Any man who would sexually assault a child of any decent man wouldn't live for very long if he was caught.

I believe the act of pedophilia is such a vile act that many people close their minds to it.

Paedophilia isn't an act - it's the state of being attracted to children. Child abuse is the crime.

Paedophiles are sick, many of them know that, which is why I believe they should be given some mental help and we should try to find some way of changing it (after reading some experiences, I believe that excessive porn consumption has a role to play).

If they follow through with their attraction and fiddle kids, though, they deserve everything they get.
09-23-2015 10:47 AM
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RE: The Push to Normalize Pedophilia Begins
Plus we have a whole thread on teachers sleeping with their students. Once this gets normalized you'll have all of them plus future candidates jumping on the bandwagon.

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