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Honestly, all this talk of Alpha/Beta is ridiculous when half the forum is constantly texting women or using social media. This shit is a way out for men who have been afraid of approaching women in the past. You lump yourself into the same category of spineless wimps by default when you match their behavior.

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(10-21-2015 09:46 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Hooligan Harry

Honestly, all this talk of Alpha/Beta is ridiculous when half the forum is constantly texting women or using social media. This shit is a way out for men who have been afraid of approaching women in the past. You lump yourself into the same category of spineless wimps by default when you match their behavior.

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(02-01-2013 09:42 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  This reads like a fat chick demanding that her wonderful personality and masters degree should be able to overcome mens natural programming and attraction to hot, young women.

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(02-17-2013 10:27 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  
(02-17-2013 02:15 PM)basilransom Wrote:  How is money getting you laid?

I live in a city reputed for its women being money hungry, and I still don't see it. Money has no impact on whether I can bring home the girl I'm talking to - I wouldn't be doing much different if I was making 10-50% more. I've experimented with implying I'm rich or of family money, and it doesn't have much impact. My wingmen say the same thing.

Power and connections are a whole different story though. There are rich men with no connections that are just as hard up as men of more modest means. I can see money helping in less conventional ways - traveling of course, throwing parties, couchsurf hosting, etc.

Im just going to repost what I posted in a previous thread.

Hooligan Harry Wrote:People tend to miss the point with money. Its not about buying the cars and the boats all the time, its about the LIFESTYLE more than anything else. Women dont actually care about the car or the boat, they care about the LIFESTYLE and SOCIAL STATUS that comes with it.

Thats all its about with them. This is why you will always see broke bitches hanging out in the swankiest clubs and bars. Its not that they are looking for a whale all the time (although they know they have better chances of finding them there), its that woman are fucking snobs and they love shiny shit and opulence.

Money opens up a LIFESTYLE to them that is on a different level to what they can afford, and even though the basics of game remain the same it makes things so much easier.

Take logistics. Everyone is always talking about finding a decent apartment that is close to nightlife and makes it easy to get women back. Location is key. Now if you are staying in a 5 star hotel suite instead of some average apartment in the city, it gives you a substantial advantage. By just being able to order up room service at 3 in the morning alone or have a laundry service, hell a breakfast in the morning prepared by some decent chef, these are things that fuck with their brain in a positive way for men.

Its not just the 5 star hotels. Its the hottest clubs, hottest restaurants, box tickets to major games, etc. All of this puts you in the face of women that are going to be way hotter than your average chud at a backpacker bar or college booze fest, and if you are taking a stupid bitch to these things it helps get the panties off faster too.

You dont need to buy a yacht, you just charter it. But when you have cash to burn, you could charter a monster in the Med for a week or two. You are not going to struggle to pull bitches out of a club in any southern European town if you and a few mates have a super yacht in the harbor.

You dont fly cattle class, you fly first class. When you get to the next level, you are charting flights. You get off the flight far fresher and with less frustration than the chumps in the back of the bus.

You dont throw a party at some suburban home, you throw a party in a house on an estate with massive views and endless booze and drugs. You dont have to worry about cops rocking up because you are disturbing the neighbors, the neighbor is so far away he wont give a fuck.

You get the idea.

This is why I dont even bother debating game and money anymore, too many guys miss the point completely. People make the mistake of thinking that a guy making X a year or driving X car is not seeing extra action, therefore money means shit. They dont understand that its not what you earn or own, its the lifestyle you lead with the money you have. This is what they are drawn to. Chicks dont give a fuck about the car, they care about the fact that a guy who drives a car like that might be the sort who stays in 5 star hotels and flies first class.

Chaps, you need to stop thinking that shit like money does not matter.

Its like listening to fat chicks talking about real men who love curves.

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(11-01-2015 08:35 AM)Dino Wrote:  I think a lot of people think game excuses bad manners.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-51391...pid1140460

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You are correct that this thread is depressing. This is why there needs to be some sort of neo-masculine response to the Brave New World that the progressive élites are creating and the sobering fact that White people will have no homeland to call their own in contrast with most other peoples.

The depression comes in when you feel that your responsibility for something is much higher than your power over the events. Each of us needs to increase our power to influence our own lives which is pretty much what this forum is about.

The white elephant in the room is that young women are poorly represented in protectionist, traditionalists geo-political movements. Those who are involved get surrounded by White Knights thanks to their rarity. I would not be surprised if these women's fertility rates were not much higher than the general nihilistic population of women. Modern women in general are more likely to be found in a soulmate camp. This is where the social value is at the minute thanks to decades of MTV etc and cosmopolitan university degrees that women like (linguistics, International Relations etc) We need to produce a movement of value to women by increasing our own personal worths.

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I want Hooligan Harry to return so bad.

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I just stumbled across this one while searching for flight deals - it saved me a bit of time, since I was looking into the airline points game for long-haul flying - but in economy:

(08-02-2015 07:54 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  For a little background, I have flown over a million miles on United alone. I have lifetime gold status. I use to live on Flyertalk and do mileage runs if I was close to a certain status level (did the math and the rewards outweighed the costs of the run). This isn't meant to brag, it is meant to give you perspective where I am coming from. I am the guy that used to have seatguru up when booking tickets. I was the guy that ran a spreadsheet when I was trying to figure out status. I was the guy that would hump it to wherever the fuck was the cheapest $ per status mile even if I had been there before. I have done the runs where you don't even leave the airport.

The name of the game, in travel and in life, is to maximize value. And when it comes to maximizing value from airline points, it is usually in the premium cabins. If you look at the incremental differences between price (going from coach to business let's say) and the same corresponding move in points, the gap in price is generally huge when compared to point moves. That is why it makes sense to focus on premium cabin deals. There really isn't much opportunity to game economy.
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(11-13-2015 02:48 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  The first blush of married love always wears off. Give it a few years or so. You won't be as impressed with her looks or her pussy, but hopefully you'll have some intimacy with her and sense of being safe and respected with her that it makes up for it.

Marriage is basically a long domestic business partnership -- with all that entails. It's a special kind of partnership because one of the partners has the upper hand legally and financially: the woman. Marry her in most Western countries and you are basically putting yourself into a contractual position that is not equal in that respect. For that reason, lawyers (HankMoody and Merenguero can tell you the horror stories) don't recommend that men marry: you are not entering into an equal partnership legally or financially, which no lawyer can ever in good conscience advise you to do.

You need to ask yourself very coldly, very objectively (and preferably after you've jerked off so you're not thinking with your dick): if you had to trust someone with half your shit, half your bank, and all of the children you might have, would this person be worthy of that level of trust from you? If the answer is no to any of those questions, then you don't marry her, any more than you'd enter a business partnership with someone that you didn't trust completely.

If the answer is yes to questions, you need to ask yourself that question again. Several times. Very carefully, remembering every annoying habit and every white lie she ever told you. Honest in small things, honest in large for the most part. If she's prepared to lie about where the money came from for those $50 shoes, I promise you she will be lying about where the money comes from for the fur coat or new dress or pearl earrings she'll be wearing later down the track.

You might well say in reply "Oh come on, everyone lies, everyone is human." Dishonesty or lies might be forgiveable if they're inconsequential and the power in the relationship is equal. Fact is, it's not -- and consequently, you have to hold your woman to a higher standard than a civilian. A civilian can't take half your house off you and banish you from seeing your kids while still paying for them for 18 years. A woman can -- by moving out, and she can do much worse by making one phone call to the cops.

There is nothing wrong, and a lot to be said for, holding her to a high standard in this area. Remember: you are the catch.

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From the Parisian thread. Unreal phrasing.

(11-13-2015 08:21 PM)Kabal Wrote:  The Greeks had to at least come up with the Trojan Horse to get within Troy's walls.

The Muslims were waved into Europe with the fervor of a coked out Third-Base Coach.

Innocent Europeans lost their lives today thanks to the Multiculturalism ideology.
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Recent from the Lizard of Oz. For the tl;dr crowd,

-you should spend your youth being young and worry about old age when you are old
-If you are burned out, in your thirties already, you aren't pushing yourself hard enough

(11-14-2015 09:38 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  The idea that dudes in their 20s and 30s -- hell, even dudes in their 40s and 50s -- should devote even a millisecond of their time to worrying about "illness", "old age", and "dying alone" is a laughable absurdity, and it testifies better than anything else to how weak-minded and spoiled the men of these generations have become.

If you are a healthy man in his prime, and by that I mean anything under 60, and you ever catch yourself even for an instant whining about the supposed prospects of "old age" and "dying alone", you should slap yourself across the face -- hard -- and shame yourself out of this idiocy once and for all. Your mind should be concentrated on the things of life, on pussy, money, work, friendship, and just the random things that happen every day that make life interesting and enjoyable. Leave the troubles of age to those who have earned them -- and that would be the old. You aren't one of them, so there is no need for you to deal with that nonsense.

I don't understand what the deal is with dudes of this generation being positively hungry to feel old at the earliest opportunity. It's a dismal and unpleasant mystery. I read about guys in their thirties -- even as early as guys in mid to late twenties -- already whining about how they're "burned out", how they're "tired of the game", how it all suddenly seems "empty" or "meaningless" or some such nonsense: you'd think they've had the weight of the world on their shoulders, instead of living the most comfortable and cosseted lives ever lived by human beings in history. Fuck that -- I'm in my very late 30s, and I feel like I'm just barely getting started. At least Hollywood at its height would have the decency to cast an old cop in his early 50s with a solid gut to earn the right to utter the sublime and immortal phrase, "I'm getting too old for this shit". Because anyone younger saying that would just show him up as a weakling.

None of that has anything to do with marriage, by the way. As I wrote in a thread a while back, most men should -- and will -- eventually marry and have kids, that is how it's always been and likely always will be. But marry because you want to have children and a family and a woman to come home to (and hopefully she can fix you a decent meal while she's at it). Don't do it because of the canting fear of "dying alone" as if that piece of word garbage could possibly have a real meaning to a man in his prime. It doesn't, and no one should pretend otherwise.

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(11-14-2015 09:17 PM)Aurini Wrote:  When you marry somebody, you're giving up the right to be happy; your duty is to make HER happy, to protect and cherish her, regarldess of how it makes you feel. It's her duty to submit and obey you, and work hard to please you, whether she wants to or not.

If you both give up on being happy, you'll be ridiculously happy with each other; if you try and be happy, you'll both wind up miserable. If she can understand this, she might be worth marrying.

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Posting Koski's quote on here:

(11-18-2015 01:34 PM)kosko Wrote:  In 2015 your average escort is in better sexual health then your typical 20 year old American girl. Escorts don't fuck without rubbers, many don't even suck a dick without a rubber, many get tested weekly or every other week. Contrast this to you average young girl who thinks she is invisible because she had a HPV vaccine shot.

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(11-18-2015 07:34 AM)Ocelot Wrote:  I'd exchange all my 'male privilege' for a mute button for childless women over 40.

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If you've had enough doom and gloom, here's one from Gio, prompted by yours truly:
(11-16-2015 01:36 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  
(11-05-2015 02:42 PM)262 Wrote:  My guess is Gio's playfulness is a part of his success with college girls as a 40?-something guy.

Of course!

Playfulness is a big part of my philosophy.

This thread needed more playfulness.

Guys get frustrated with women. Guys get frustrated with life.

This thread is about a man who LITERALLY GAVE UP WOMEN BECAUSE THEY WERE TOO FRUSTRATING FOR HIM!!!

He was too serious about women, not PLAYFUL enough.

Being playful increases the quality of my life!
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(08-20-2015 02:33 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  You know what I miss? Fleeting thoughts.

You used to have a bizarre thought pop into your head, like, "I wonder what happened to the actress who played Christie Love in the show 'Get Christie Love'," and then mentally shrug your shoulders, and that would be it.

Or you might think, "Man, my dad is mean and doesn't understand me." And then think, "Oh well," and that would be it.

Fleeting thoughts are completely gone, because we have the internet now, and it only takes me an instant to find out what the actress Theresa Graves is doing now, whereas in say, the 80's I would have had to really expend some energy to find out, so I didn't bother. Now there are probably "Get Christie Love" worship groups where white gay guys dress up like her. There are a million Theresa Graves options available to me now.

There is no Internet Nazi to get in my face and say, "No bandwidth for you! Stop wasting your time."

I can instantly find a group of other guys whose dad didn't understand them in a similar way to me, and we can all agree to have a sex change together while cannibalizing someone who looks like my mom which is what she deserves for not having intervened.

Twenty years ago, if you wanted to be a weirdo, you really needed to have initiative. Now it pretty much takes care of itself, you just have to opt in. And it is not just the way it warps your personality a bit to be following your own mind down its own self created rabbit holes whenever you want, it is also the time you waste that you could have used doing something else.

Think of all the freaks we contend with online and in real life. If they had to leave the house and engage in order to make their weirdness a reality, most wouldn't bother, and the true outliers would stay where they belong, in their own little subcultures and on the margins, instead of being encouraged in their unbalanced ideas almost simultaneously as they have them.

They would have a weird thought, examine it for a sec, then say to themselves, "That was weird," dismiss it, and move on with their lives.

Only the true freaks would see their freakishness through, and the rest would just get on with life.

That's what I miss. I am nostalgic for a particular habit of mind.

A fleeting thought.
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Best one-liner I've seen on the forum since MiXX.

(10-17-2015 12:03 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  I have become the orbit, not the orbiter.
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(11-21-2015 10:49 PM)wi30 Wrote:  Best one-liner I've seen on the forum since MiXX.

(10-17-2015 12:03 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  I have become the orbit, not the orbiter.

So he's become the collection of all orbiters?? Or the curved path followed by orbiters, never connecting with the planet? How's that any good?

Maybe he meant : I have become the planet, not the orbiter ?
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Ah you ruined it for me. I was drinking and didn't even pick up on that. The entire thing was a great inner game post.
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Days Of Broken Arrows:

Quote:This post has rubbed me the wrong way since it was posted, and I want express my unhappiness with its content and tone.

It's posts like these that make me think this board is turning into a reverse image of Jezebel.

Jezebel ignores all positive stories and innovations by men and instead focuses on men that abuse women or commit crimes. In my opinion, we spend too much time going on about how nasty women are and we're becoming willfully blind to the fact that there are ones who are dedicated to their husbands throughout their lives.

I think the "hypergamy doesn't lie" idea is the manosphere's version of "all men are rapists." I don't buy it. There's truth in it, sure, but I think men see what they want to see and ignore what doesn't fit their worldview.

I am willing to concede I made bad decisions when it came to women. But I'm not willing to buy into a worldview that paints all of them as inhumanly hypergamous, always jumping to the next best thing.

And the reason for that is that (as mentioned) I've seen the opposite in the lives of friends and family members.

Dismiss my rantings as being "NAWALT" (Not All Women Are Like That), but in doing so, you run the risk of sounding like feminists who dismiss anyone who questions any sexual assault as a "rape apologist."

Things are not always black and white. Life is more complicated than that.

Yes, feminism eroded relations between men and women. Yes, it's damaged society. Yes, it's screwed some of us over personally in school and in our personal lives. Yes, it allows women to live down to their worst natures (i.e. hypergamy).

But no philosophy can or will upend basic biology. And if men and women could meet and marry successfully in 1920, they can do it today. We might have feminism, but they had world wars and were in the dark ages technologically speaking. In my opinion, it's easier to dismiss online idiots or deal with the issues of modern women than it was for Great Granddad to make it through a winter with minimal heat (to cite one example).

On top of all that, I think Rollo's writing lacks humanity and reduces people to ideas and concepts. While Heartiste and Roosh aren't exactly warm and loving in their styles, there's a sense of humor and impishness in their writing that I don't get from Rollo.

I take everyone with a grain of salt to some degree, but when writers (or professors or pundits or even musicians) have no sense of joy, alarm bells go off. It feels more like I'm getting propaganda than a slice of life.

While I buy into some of his ideas here, I think they're just that: his ideas. There's truth, but it's his truth. I have friends that you could spend weeks with and you'd come away with completely different "truths."

What I've read here and what I've seen in the real world have some connection, but do not ultimately jibe. Which brings me back to my original point: we're getting like Jezebel.

We need to be better thinkers. It's not helping anyone to spew this much negativity about human nature and females in general. Maybe this works for people who are younger and haven't seen women in their age group grow old. But it doesn't work for someone like me who has made it into his forties and knows scads of actual real life females who have spent decades NOT behaving this way.

And I know I'll get responses like "They're all hypergamous, you just don't see it." Well, if someone doesn't see something time and time again, maybe it's not really there after all. Perhaps you all are superimposing philosophies on people will little regard or understanding of the actual people.

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11-24-2015 03:28 AM
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WIA on Crushing the opponent

(11-18-2015 03:21 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  1) Taking a shot at the throne is alpha behavior.

So you gotta respond like a king and crush him.

I've been in these situations at work.

Hold on Josh, what did you say, please repeat it.

That's not what happened, but Josh were you trying to hurt my feelings? Make me feel low?

Were you just making conversation? Is that your idea of conversation, just talking about people's business all reckless? Is that the kind of friend you are.

Were you trying to make more look bad in front of our friends?

Don't try to play this off Josh, tell us all how you feel about me?

I see your fists balling up,
Your eyes are squinting though..
Are you going to attack me now?

You don't know what to do now, do you?____________________

Keep going into his motivation. Most men can't handle a verbal dismantling.

If you got dirt on him, or if you have the stomach to get dirty.

"Is this about Stacy? We're all just friends here, I'm not pursuing her. "

"We were all having such a good time Josh, why did you ruin it?"

Thing is, i learned a lot about arguments and communications over the years. Group and individual psychology comes with learning game, if you push yourself.

Guys that don't learn how to neg properly or home in on insecurities and vulnerabilities can't ever be alpha or dark triad.

2) Also, if a dude thinks he can come at you girly mouthed you need to get in the gym.

WIA

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11-24-2015 05:10 AM
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WIA... Again. The truth needs to hit us up every day until we're sick and tired of hearing this shit. Keep the trophy if you want, throw the rest back.

Hit the green arrow to get the full presentation.

(11-17-2015 08:20 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  If a chick got a problem with you, but doesn't want to say so, but wants to manipulate you into trying to drag it out of her, bounce!

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(10-19-2015 09:25 AM)tynamite Wrote:  
(05-22-2015 08:20 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Any forum for men in which women are allowed to participate -- let alone become prominent posters -- is bound to fail. And this is not even because of the shortcomings of women as posters and thinkers (though they are vast) but simply because the interactions of men with each other in the presence of women -- even in their virtual presence -- inevitably degenerate into a worthless struggle for the all-important prize of female attention and admiration. This utterly destroys the great and age-old virtues of discourse between men at their ease: plainspokenness, rationality, camaraderie, and humor.

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The male virtues of honour, dignity and meritocracy will fly out the window.

(01-18-2015 01:15 PM)scorpion Wrote:  
(01-18-2015 12:48 PM)Pride male Wrote:  Will a real good fucking keep a woman from straying? I know we talk a lot about techniques, shit tests and being alpha. But maybe Paul sucked balls between the sheets and Bryce was fucking her through the mattress. Get viagra and literally fuck the shit out of your wife.

No, it won't. I've posted about this before: the fallacy that porn star sex inspires loyalty in women and that it's therefore desirable to always rock a woman's world in bed.

The reality is that this chick was not in love with Bryce because he was a sex god, she was in love with him because he was the kind of guy who would fuck a married woman, leave immediately after busting his nut then justify his behavior by simply saying the chick had a good pussy. In other words, he is Dark Triad as fuck. His behavior is what makes him attractive, unforgettable and irresistible to her, not what he does with his penis when he's with her.

This is difficult and counter-intuitive for us to understand as men, because we are so focused on the act of sex itself. So when we read about this woman's obsession with Bryce, we are immediately attempted to project our own bias to make sense of her obsession. That is to say, we assume that she must be obsessed with the sex itself, so Bryce must have a 9 inch dick and fuck her tirelessly to multiple orgasms each time they're together. But this is wrong. She's isn't obsessed with having sex with Bryce, she's obsessed with Bryce the man. She's obsessed with the way he acts: his casual indifference, his dark triad traits, his untamed nature, etc...

It is the way you behave outside of bed that will drive women crazy and inspire loyalty, not what you do in bed. A woman would rather get fucked in a gas station bathroom for 30 seconds by a dark triad alpha like Bryce than engage in an hour-long fuckfest in a penthouse suite with a beta husband type like Paul. The former would be thrilling for her, the latter would feel like a chore. Why? Because female sexual arousal is primarily mental and emotional rather than physical. The woman is not primarily aroused by sex itself, but by the desirability of the man she is having sex with. If she perceives the man as alpha, she will tend to be satisfied by the sexual experience regardless of how physically stimulating it actually is to her (i.e. whether or not she has an orgasm or how long the sex lasts). The primary erotic attraction of sex for women is the mental and emotional satisfaction of having sex with an alpha male. That's it. The sex itself is secondary, the alpha male presence is the primary factor.

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That's absolute gold.
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