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After the previous post about Mindfucking here is 2 greats posts:

(01-18-2015 01:15 PM)scorpion Wrote:  
(01-18-2015 12:48 PM)Pride male Wrote:  Will a real good fucking keep a woman from straying? I know we talk a lot about techniques, shit tests and being alpha. But maybe Paul sucked balls between the sheets and Bryce was fucking her through the mattress. Get viagra and literally fuck the shit out of your wife.

No, it won't. I've posted about this before: the fallacy that porn star sex inspires loyalty in women and that it's therefore desirable to always rock a woman's world in bed.

The reality is that this chick was not in love with Bryce because he was a sex god, she was in love with him because he was the kind of guy who would fuck a married woman, leave immediately after busting his nut then justify his behavior by simply saying the chick had a good pussy. In other words, he is Dark Triad as fuck. His behavior is what makes him attractive, unforgettable and irresistible to her, not what he does with his penis when he's with her.

This is difficult and counter-intuitive for us to understand as men, because we are so focused on the act of sex itself. So when we read about this woman's obsession with Bryce, we are immediately attempted to project our own bias to make sense of her obsession. That is to say, we assume that she must be obsessed with the sex itself, so Bryce must have a 9 inch dick and fuck her tirelessly to multiple orgasms each time they're together. But this is wrong. She's isn't obsessed with having sex with Bryce, she's obsessed with Bryce the man. She's obsessed with the way he acts: his casual indifference, his dark triad traits, his untamed nature, etc...

It is the way you behave outside of bed that will drive women crazy and inspire loyalty, not what you do in bed. A woman would rather get fucked in a gas station bathroom for 30 seconds by a dark triad alpha like Bryce than engage in an hour-long fuckfest in a penthouse suite with a beta husband type like Paul. The former would be thrilling for her, the latter would feel like a chore. Why? Because female sexual arousal is primarily mental and emotional rather than physical. The woman is not primarily aroused by sex itself, but by the desirability of the man she is having sex with. If she perceives the man as alpha, she will tend to be satisfied by the sexual experience regardless of how physically stimulating it actually is to her (i.e. whether or not she has an orgasm or how long the sex lasts). The primary erotic attraction of sex for women is the mental and emotional satisfaction of having sex with an alpha male. That's it. The sex itself is secondary, the alpha male presence is the primary factor.

On what women will never tell you because they don't even know:

(05-27-2014 03:40 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  
(05-27-2014 12:23 AM)bacan Wrote:  Women like to feel loved, cared for, and special.. Like in your eyes they are the only girl in the world..

That's what women say they want.

I've been formulating this theory lately, early days yet. I'll ponder it some more:

What women want is men who offer them absolute destruction of their personality.

The first aspect:

- allowing themselves to become a subservient extension of the man's will, which the man in question being dominant, masculine, and enviable by other women, whilst the girl never being entirely sure how he feels for her because sometimes he's nice to her and other times he seems self-interested.

If she's attracted enough, you will never meet a happier woman than one being guided by and attending to a strong, socially-dominant man.

Women who get offended at this concept are stuck in relationships with men they don't respect and are slightly-repulsed by, and always have a suspicion they're settling and could do better. (Hell, any Players know what girls will do for us sexually that they'd be repulsed at doing to their boyfriends).

The second aspect:

- surrendering to wild, animalistic emotion. They want to exist outside themselves, not having to temper or control what they're feeling. They want to not feel, but become fury, passion, jealousy, excitement, hysteria, sex.

For example: girls aren't screaming and crying over boy bands out of actual love for the band, but because it gives them excuse to become pure screaming, crying emotion in a socially-acceptable context, normalised by their friends. They get to exist outside themselves. Hate Reading is a similar concept - I was shocked to realise that the Jezebel crowd are self-aware about it, and know that it's unproductive and destructive, but do it anyway.

The third aspect:

Debasement. If you offer a woman a choice between a good, stable man who could honour her and lead her to grace, or a self-interested man who can offer her ruination, she'll always choose the latter. No girl wants stability - it's 'boring'. And no girl wants to be good. Some may try, but they all lack the willpower to do so. Giving in to their emotions over common sense is a foregone conclusion. Deep down, I suspect they loathe the very concept of virtue because the effort it requires is beyond them, and women crave what is easy. Therefore, they ache to debase and destroy every trace of virtue within themselves with a man they're attracted to.

You can see this reflected by women's current choices in society: strip mall tatts, eating disorders, piercings, fat acceptance, cock carousel riding, acting like men, cutting off their long hair when a guy hurts them. Self-destruction rules the day.

Understanding all that, what makes an attractive man to women then?

A man they can recognise as possessing the power to destroy.

Either meaning:

- their self-destruction, (Junkie, Biker, Bad Boy, Musician, Drug Dealer, Frat Jock, Physically Violent, Criminal).

- being powerful enough to destroy others.

A physically-fit, muscular man is strong enough to harm her enemies, or protect her from reprisal when she seeks to harm others.

A mentally-tough, stoic man won't break or back down under pressure, so can be relied upon to serve his function.

A socially-powerful man, who can use connections, personality and influence to enact her will.

A financially-wealthy man, who can provide her the means to enact her will.

Why do you think some girls suddenly decided, like they always do, that this Rodgers shooter is surprisingly-cute? Destructive capacity. She gets to imagine what a guy who is prepared to kill for his beliefs (read: raw emotion) could do for her...

Only rough conjecture at this point. I'm still turning this theory over in my head, so it's probably a bit raggy, but, I've always been aware women seem more attracted to me when I'm scowly than smiling. (I have a black eye and stiches at the moment from a fight scene where a baton hit my retina and split my eyebrow, and it's been a day game pussy magnet. Yeah, yeah, before you run out and hit yourself - I have a blood blister behind my cornea that might require surgery after three months, if it doesn't go down by itself).

Still, my theory could explain why women always fail at building anything of substance in society, because they're really attracted to tearing things down in a fury of raw emotion the moment things get hard: abandoning struggling businesses; disbanding movements due to infighting; viciously attacking their besties; divorcing husbands they're no longer attracted to; murdering children in their wombs.

Tell them too much, they wouldn't understand; tell them what they know, they would yawn.
They have to move up by responding to challenges, not too easy not too hard, until they paused at what they always think is the end of the road for all time instead of a momentary break in an endless upward spiral
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Spaniard88: "The "believe anything" crew contributes: "She's probably a good girl, maybe she lost her virginity to someone with AIDS and only had sex once before you met her...give her a chance.""
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Tell them too much, they wouldn't understand; tell them what they know, they would yawn.
They have to move up by responding to challenges, not too easy not too hard, until they paused at what they always think is the end of the road for all time instead of a momentary break in an endless upward spiral
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(02-18-2016 08:06 PM)EDantes Wrote:  One problem is that guys who get married tend to think of their wife as a "possession" like a new car; they think that once they've tied the knot then they don't have to "do anything" or use any game to keep the attraction alive, and that as long as they work, pay the bills, support the kids, etc their wifey's going to be with them happily ever after, like in a Disney movie.

Unfortunately this isn't how attraction works; it's something that requires maintenance.

(Not letting yourself go weight-wise and ending up looking like the Stay Puft Marshmellow Man probably helps too; I don't think that relationships should only be about looks, but seeing as the wife kept herself in good shape while he let himself turn into a blob I can't feel too much pity for him).

(02-18-2016 07:53 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Love dies out in an LTR and all you're left with is if they complement your life or not. In the majority of times, a woman is "annoyed" or "isn't haaaaapy" or "it just isn't there anymore".

Men gradually erode their own foundation of game and frame and lose everything.
I think another big problem in this day and age is the lack of outside interests many guys have to share with fellow men (ex. sports, or an hobbies outside of the wife and kids); coupled with the "Disney movie" mindset inwhich getting married or finding a woman is the "sole purpose for living".

Unfortunately this actually backfires, because women want to be desired by men, but don't want to be the "sole purpose" of the guy's life - this ends up coming across as needy and kills attraction; a guy who "can't live without them" comes across as weaker.

(01-10-2016 01:17 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Come on Onto, there is no need for any of the allegories about the different ballgames to explain why men will always play with a ball and women never will. It's both simpler and more fundamental than that.

Men's most basic instinct is to handle objects in the outside world, that's just what men do. A ball is a perfect object because it can be tossed, kicked, thrown, batted etc. Some objects may be set aside because a man might have no immediate use for them, but a ball can always be used and always invites use. So a man will just go ahead and handle it because it so readily lends itself to being handled.

Women simply don't care about objects in the outside world, as such. The only thing that women care about is social interactions: who is doing what with whom, who is gaining the upper hand, who is in and out of power, who is paying attention to whom. That's why social media and smartphones are like crack to them, because that is a way for them to exercise their most fundamental instincts 24/7. Objects in the material world, as such, are simply completely irrelevant to them, they're just vague things that men do stupid shit with and then magically money appears for women to use. They'll be interested in objects that give them pleasure like a nice bubble bath or a cock, in objects that allow them to gain the upper hand in the battle for men's attention, like a well-made dress, and in objects that allow them to differentiate the status of other men and women. But a stupid ball that serves no purpose except to throw it around? Of what possible interest is it to a female?

Incidentally, women's total lack of interest in objects outside of themselves, as such, is the reason why they make such fucking great scientists. There is nothing that prepares you better for doing great science than a complete lack of curiosity about the outside world.

(01-15-2016 08:46 AM)JayMillz Wrote:  [Image: 0bj1SNL.png]
We have reached new lows!!

$80 an hour

Meet Kimberly, a professional snuggler who gets paid by the hour to invite strangers into her bed for some PG-rated fun. Laugh if you want, but she's making real bank.

http://nypost.com/video/woman-sells-her-...-snuggles/

(01-15-2016 01:25 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  This is actually pretty disturbing and has even more troubling implications for the future.

Two of the worst elements of feminism are the way it atomizes people (because of the paranoia it stokes), and the way it "monetizes" the human experience (since it defines people as "economic units," not humans).

This woman's cuddling service brings together both of those things. It says that if you want to participate in a basic human ritual -- touch -- you have to pay up. Maybe to some people this seems in the realm of normalcy, but to me it's like something from a dystopian science fiction novel.

Once you monetize something, there is no going back. People will stop viewing it as natural and see it as economic instead.

One big reason women seek alimony is as an informal retroactive payment for sexual services. They see what they provided sexually as having monetary value -- although we don't come out and say that in polite society. As such, whenever a woman has sex, there is a dollar value buried deep in her subconscious.

With this, women will now unconsciously put a price tag on basic touch. Once you go there, what's next?

Women charging men for conversations in clubs?
High school girls charging boys to take them to the prom?
Women charging admission for guys to enter their dorm room?

Don' laugh. Once you monetize basic human needs, trouble will follow. And even if it doesn't, all this will now be in the back of everyone's mind, which sours the whole experience.
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(04-27-2015 02:19 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  
(04-18-2015 06:06 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  I think this may stem from a lot of repressed depression and frustrations as a child and teenager that manifested in my body language, mannerism, and social functioning.

When we met, a few years ago, I could sense this..

Your vibe was very "stoic". I mean, it was fun hanging with you and I really enjoyed talking to you but girls need to see more engaging, more emotive, more inviting, more "fun loving" type of body and facial language.

I used to have the same exact problem!

I was too unemotional, too cynical, not expressive enough.

My sense of humor had been suppressed by the pressures of modern life.

I had to "lighten up", relax and learn to enjoy life more.

Anger and depression is not attractive to girls -- unless, it is balanced out by fun.

I'm not saying that you were angry and depressed, you obviously were not.

I'm just saying that are inner cynicism often is reflected in our body and facial language.

Learning how to gently smirk and smile has helped me a lot with girls.

(02-16-2016 01:53 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  
(02-10-2016 01:18 PM)yeppels Wrote:  I have a question to you guys about good vibes.

What kind of mindset are you in when you put off good vibes?

My mindset?

- Appreciative
- Fun loving
- At peace
- Non-needy
- Humorous
- Thankful
- Playful

(02-10-2016 01:18 PM)yeppels Wrote:  How do you have this state without the environment around you influencing you?

A fun environment helps.. But, I practice being in a positive, fun, mindset no matter what environment I am in.

We must practice mind and thought control.

We can not always be a slave to our thoughts and feelings.

We must take control of our experience.

I literally practice being playful and at peace.

Life is a mind game.

(02-10-2016 01:18 PM)yeppels Wrote:  Does it just come naturally from being a happy and satisfied person? I.e. good health, sexually active, successful career/moneymaking prospects etc?

Being happy and satisfied can help a lot.

Having a good life can help a lot.

But, some guys have a shitty life and are not even that happy, HOWEVER.. When they get around girls they can still find sexual success because they have a good look and they know how to communicate with girls in a flirty, non needy way.

So, having a happy life can help -- but it doesn't guarantee success with women.

So, it just depends on your ability to game.

(02-08-2016 08:09 PM)Taco Illusionist Wrote:  as a newbie how would I transition this mindset into my practical interactions with women?

When I was a newbie, I didn't understand any of this shit..

Now that I've had a few years of experience, My advice would be this:

- Continue to fine tune your look. Present the sexy, dominant version of yourself, not the politically correct, mild mannered version of yourself. Don't be afraid to be edgy.

- Don't be serious with women. Be playful and flirty.

- Sex is not a big deal. Talk about sex casually and playfully with women.

- Don't ever appear judgmental. Sex is fun and normal.

- Talk to a few attractive girls a day. This will give you valuable experience.

- Smile more.

- Use humor.

(02-08-2016 08:09 PM)Taco Illusionist Wrote:  Is it simply a case of 'as you think you shall become'

No.

Things do not happen by accident.

Thinking is not enough.

We must take the right action at the right time.

We must dress right, speak right, act right, walk right, etc.

(02-08-2016 08:09 PM)Taco Illusionist Wrote:  Are there certain actions or words you would do/say at certain points during a date/interaction which help trigger this?

Yes, of course.

Being playful with she talks about sex.

Never showing judgmental body or facial language.

Encouraging her sexual freedom.

Talking openly about your sex life.

Talking about other peoples sex life.

Never making a big deal about sex.

Etc.

(02-13-2016 11:51 AM)Celtic_Austrian Wrote:  Most women are not like pornstars at all, and never will be.

The vast majority of them are just bad at sex.

I agree.

I've been with many young women.

Most of them were not like pornstars.

Many of the college girls I am with have very little experience with wild porn star type of sex.

Many of them have never done anal. Many of them give bad blowjobs. Many of them don't want to swallow cum or even take a facial. Many of them have very little experience being tied up.

(02-12-2016 07:21 AM)Mr. Pink Wrote:  You think the number of attractive college graduates with multiple partners is less than 90%?

That is not the question I was addressing...

I was addressing these statements about college girls:

(02-01-2016 08:52 AM)Mr. Pink Wrote:  she's been fucked repeatedly in every orifice, tied up, choked, and had her face glazed by countless dudes

(02-11-2016 08:58 AM)Mr. Pink Wrote:  a woman has been throatfucked and glazed by multiple guys

(02-12-2016 12:17 AM)Mr. Pink Wrote:  a woman who has gagged on multiple cocks and been fucked in the ass repeatedly.

In my experience, most attractive college girls do not have this much sexual experience.

I have been with nearly 100 college girls.

Some were absolute freaks but many of them were quite inexperienced sexually.

To say that 90% of attractive college girls have been "fucked repeatedly in every orifice, tied up, choked, and had her face glazed by countless dudes" is an extreme exaggeration. (based on my data)

Forgive me if that is not the point you were trying to make.

Again, taking the "red pill" sometimes causes guys to become to extremist in their view of women. They think all women want porn star sex. Don't forget, many parts of America are still religious, most parents raise their daughters to be sexually conservative, kinky sex is still taboo, etc.

So, my point is -- attractive college girls will become a porn star for the right guy -- but -- to think that 90% of attractive college girls are whores on the level of porn stars in simply not true, based on my experience.

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(03-01-2016 09:44 AM)kleyau Wrote:  My boss, who made enough money that he could have quit working 30 years ago, put it this way, "Trump only has 4 bankruptcies out of over a hundred businesses? Hell, I'd be happy with just 4 out of my 26!"

Successful people fail constantly to attain success. Only losers don't understand this.
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(08-29-2012 12:43 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  
(08-27-2012 03:55 PM)pitt Wrote:  By the way, i always think about your post in relation to fear, it was a classic post..do you remember what thread it was on? i want to share it with some of my friends.

Pitt,

I think you mean this one:

(04-16-2012 09:37 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  
(04-16-2012 02:20 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  Giovonny: how do you go about figuring out fears + eliminating them from your mind? Any resources or tips to share?

WesternCancer,

Here is a bunch of stuff that I wrote over the last few years. Alot of it will sound repetitive but I think you will find some techniques that you like.

However, my philosophy and techniques are always evolving. At the end of this post I will write my most current and up-to-date plan for eliminating fear from your body and mind


(02-09-2012 01:14 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  The short answer is to simply do more repititions of whatever it is that you're scared of. If your scared to talk to girls, talk to 100 girls, if your scared to give speeches, give 100 speeches.

Facing your fear head on is the alpha thing to do!

I also recommened doing things that are much scarier then talking to girls like:

skydiving
bungee jumping
handling large snakes
Public speaking
fighting (like live sparring for boxing/mma)
talking to a therapist about your deepest fears (this is a highly underrated inner game tactic)


And simultaneously,

Addresing your specific fears like:

heights
flying
the dark
etc.

When you eliminate your deep seeded childhood fears, all other little fears melt away. Fear and confidence are in a constant struggle to control your mind. Attack your fear and feed your confidence!


(02-10-2012 03:01 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  This type of stuff has worked for me. I take fear elimination very serious.

Conquering my fear and feeding my confidence has been maybe the most important thing in my life the last few years. I realized that the less fear I have, the happier I am, the more free I am. That might be the most fundamental part of Game - having no fear. Its so liberating. You don't have to worry about people judging you, people liking you, or trying to fit in. You are free to just be yourself and have fun. You don't give a fuck! (when fear is gone)

I can't live with fear. I feel like a little pussy loser who is afraid to face the world. So I attack fear. I've talked to many sports psychologists and many colleagues in psychology to develop a strategy that works for my specific situation. I work hard on "inner game" because game begins in the mind.

Fear has infected many people. Everybody is so scared of everything. I can't live like that. I live for fearlessness.

(02-11-2012 03:29 PM)pitt Wrote:  Giovonny just one more thing. You mentioned all important things apart from working out or lifting weights, dont you think that this can be a very effective tool in eliminating fear? Dont you think that this can help eliminating fear?

(02-12-2012 01:53 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  Working on all aspects of your appearance is very important!

You want to look as good as possible, of course.

But I consider that "outer game". It doesn't fix the weaknesses is your mind. (though it may help them somewhat)

I think we have to work on both at the same time.

If lifting weights works for you then of course due it hard.

But, don't ignore those little fears that are in the back of your head when you go to bed at night. If you can conquer those, you will go to another level.

I'm trying to get to an almost spiritual level where its like I'm on ecstasy even though I'm not.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-6994-page-3.html

(02-12-2012 03:33 PM)pitt Wrote:  Do you mind if you breakdown how you go along with skydiving, bungee jumping, handling large snakes etc, i mean, do you do those activities on regular basis (for example twice a week) or you reccommend to do it for a one time life experience

(02-12-2012 04:18 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I didn't know about "game" when I did those things, but now when I look back, I think those things helped me. I've only done those things once in my life and would never do them again but I'm glad I did it once. With skydiving and bungee-jumping, once is enough to shake you up a little. I thought I was dead, so when I got back on the ground I was approaching like crazy.

You should do something extreme like this asap AND find a fear eliminating exercise that you can do on a regular basis. Maybe a boxing/mma gym or a rock climbing class or firing range where you can shoot guns or surfing or something that will force you to face some fear.

AND, You should identify the top 2 or 3 fears that are holding you back from being the man you want to be and aggressively attack them.

AND, you should consider talking to a professional therapist about any fear that you may have carried from your childhood. If you have any "issues", deal with them honestly and aggressively.

Design a fear elimination game plan and get to work.

So you are doing extreme once in a lifetime stuff, regular confidence boosting maintenance, and also working on root of the problem in your mind. AND, at the same time you are improving your "outer game" in terms of appearance, vibe, and conversation.

Thats what I would do. (Thats what worked for me)

Oh, and I must admit, these helped alot too..

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-6998.html


(09-29-2011 04:08 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  Something related that I posted last year:

I learned this by accident but something that helped me was DOING THINGS THAT WERE MUCH SCARIER THEN APPROACHING GIRLS.

I went skydiving and nearly shit my pants, when i got back on the ground i couldn't wait to approach girls..i had just experienced a great deal of fear and i was laughing it off...approaching girls didn't seem that scary anymore.

Other things that helped were boxing in the Golden Gloves, talking to my mom about why she left my dad, bungee jumping, etc. The bottom line is the more you face your fears...the less fear you will have stored in your body/mind...when you eliminate all that fear, approaching girls is easy.

(07-06-2011 04:26 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  Another way to increase confidence is to deal with any unresolved emotional issues that you might have. I think that stuff is deep Inner Game. Carrying around alot of emotional baggage can have a negative effect on your vibe. Sometimes you gotta just stay home alone for a few days and really think about stuff. If you have more internal peace, you might be more comfortable and have more confidence.

Talking to my parents about why they divorced helped me get over alot of anger and pain.

Which allowed me to be more relaxed and soften my vibe so that it was more attractive to females. My sense of humor picked up and my attitude was more playful and less intense. I started dressing with more swag because I was more comfortable with who I was.

Forgiving someone, forgiving yourself, having a heart to heart talk with a parent or sibling, these kinds of things can sometimes release weight off your chest and allow you to display more of your "best self".

As far as approaching girls to build confidence?

I think its the best way. Because you are killing 8 birds with one stone.

When you approach a cute girl, you are working on your:

confidence
vibe
body language
eye-ball language
conversational skills
social skills
quick wit/humor
quick thinking/problem solving

And it builds the right kind of confidence. Confidence in talking to cute girls.

Here is my most current answer:

If fear is controlling your life and you lack confidence..


Get professional help!

Yes, that is my answer. If your fear is paralyzing you and you can barely take action, that is what you need. You can figure it out on your own but that will take alot longer and wil have alot more ups and downs. A professional psychologist or therapist can help you identify your fears, their causes, and how to eliminate them. Those people do this everyday. This will kick start and accelerate your fear elimination process. Try different people and find one that you like. Once you get your fears identified and their roots, you can really get to work. I only did this for about a month when I was a teen but I wish I would have done it more.

I would compare it to getting into game. What would be better? Reading and studying on your own? Or, doing a bootcamp with Roosh?

The bootcamp with Roosh would probably be more helpful. Because he is A PROFESSIONAL!

Spend the money, take the time, get professional help!

Doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, therapists, counselors, life coaches, puas, etc.

Find the people who are experts at your situation!

Also,

Here are some techniques that I didn't mention in the earlier posts..

1)Google "eliminating fear" and educate yourself

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHNY...ating+fear

2)Read books on the subject

Here an author that I like:

http://www.oshoquotes.net/2009/12/osho-q...-of-death/

3) Traveling

For some reason experiencing another far away culture often helps eliminate some fear.

4) Meditation

This means different things to different people. For me, its just getting into a situation where I don't have to think, I can just react and play. I play soccer, basketball, and tennis. I do yoga. I dance. These things allow me to operate without thoughts or fears. These things come mostly from my muscle memory, I don't have to think. This break from fear and thought allows me to just live/play without feeling any fear. I am a guy who sees that there is no reason to be scared. If I am scared, then I am confused by my thoughts. Make sense?

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AnonymousBosch commenting on the Trump thread about the Cruz sex scandal, but making a deeper point about people who pathologically seek power. The beginning reads almost like poetry, but is still easily and clearly understandable:

(03-25-2016 01:54 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  The siren's call of power sings with heightened-beauty to those who have been deeply-shamed through social-marginalisation earlier in life, (usually through peer rejection, due to possessing a fundamentally-dishonest and dysfunctional core of behaviour; and being on the uglier, impotent end of the sexual marketplace).

They spend their lives chasing power over others to reduce the cognitive dissonance between their highly-desired, utterly-false self-construct of social superiority and popularity, and the reality of peer rejection.

Despite their apparent age, they remain eternal children sulking in a playground: "One day, I'll show them all, and they'll all have to do what I say."

Btw, this thread should be moved to the Deep Forum
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(03-29-2016 01:02 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  Once broken or corrupted, women do not heal.

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The perfect obituary for a dead careerist girl

(03-29-2016 10:46 AM)the biggest cheetah Wrote:  "she lived alone with her cat"

The obituary of our generation.
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I think this thread is a great idea. I've taken to saving some posts here and there, but don't always think to do it.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19512...#pid345302

Quote:No, because the very act of teaching someone to better approach women is considered "creepy". You're being far too objective here-what you say makes sense logically, but women are not thinking in a strictly logical fashion when they engage in this kind of shaming language. It is their emotions that drive them.

Women want effortless attraction. They want a guy who is very attractive to them without any evidence that he's putting much effort into being that way. They very much value the romanticism of the "it just happened" kind of meeting, the idea that the guy was just there being himself and he was just right and he just happened to want her.

This is why media designed to appeal to women doesn't feature male leads who seem to consciously plan to meet the female characters. Romance/adult novels (read: chick porn) feature extremely attractive men who, more often than not, are just kind of there. There is no attempt to show the development of these men into the very attractive specimens they become, or the mistakes they make in growing and getting there. They just are.

The "Disney Princess" movie models also reads this way, and does much to shape the perception of young women as they grow. The Prince does not game the Princess-he's just there, he's naturally charming, and he wants her. She has no idea how he became a prince or what he goes through to keep that title and maintain his authority, and that stuff rarely features in the story. He's just there and he's perfect for her-The End.

In female fantasy, the ideal male just is. She could care less about the effort it takes for that man to become what he is, as long as he just is.

The fact that many guys put in an effort to build that attraction and become that better man kills the ideal of organic attraction that most women want to maintain. The fact that something like "game" exists at all is even more damaging because it implies that there are some concrete formulas and methods that produce better results than others, killing the notion of "magical love" that they'd much prefer to cling to.

In the end, this all comes down to feelings. Women "feel" uncomfortable with inorganic models of sexual attraction. Game promotes an inorganic model of attraction by telling them that there is a formula that can increase a man's appeal and that a woman can be drawn with practice and perfection of this formula. Therefore, game makes women feel uncomfortable.

"Creepy" is the catch-all label used by women for that which makes them feel uncomfortable. Hence, game is creepy.

Women also do not like the idea of losing control. Girls want the ability to choose winners and losers in the sexual marketplace-this is, in their mind, their prerogative and right.

When those winners (alpha males and guys who are just generally successful with women) and losers (dudes who don't see much sexual success) start gathering on forums likes these in mass and begin discussing and actually codifying how to do things, they begin to undermine that power women would like to keep.

It also becomes harder to tell which guys fit the "effortless attraction" model they idealize and spend most of their youth dreaming about and which guys merely look the part after a lot of effort. Girls would, generally, prefer to be able to make this distinction themselves, separating the more organic "naturals" from the others who had to work at it or are merely putting on a well practiced cover for weaknesses in their game that girls would otherwise readily see.
With "game", men take some of this ability and choice away from them.

To men, this may not seem like a bad thing since men are merely trying to give women more of what they want.

The problem is that women do not want men making this decision and taking things out of their hands. This is a threat to the feminine imperative and a challenge to the romanticized organic model I described above, so women subconsciously shy away from it.

The feminine imperative calls for control over the direction of the sexual marketplace, and male cooperation and focused effort to improve their standing in said marketplace does nothing to help this aim.

The standard response, therefore, is to shame those who participate in those discussions. The term "creepy" is a good way to do that, and it fits since the whole idea makes women uncomfortable as well (creepy = "I don't like the feeling he/it gives me").

Of course, this feminine imperative creates a dilemma for men who try to abide by it. If they put in effort and that effort is seen, that's creepy. If they don't put in effort and they're not naturals (very few men are), they are still creepy. Lose-lose.

This isn't a good place for men to be, but women generally don't care. They simply can't.
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(07-23-2011 11:55 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I respect these guys for going hard. They can definitely number close.

I just wonder if they banged any of these girls???

Collecting phone numbers and F-closing are 2 different things.

If they are NOT banging these girls, then these guys are not "pick up artists".

They are "Pick Up Entertainers". Its not about perfecting the science and art of romancing a woman. Its about making videos that betas will buy.

My concern with "Clown Game" is that it is an act. Its not your real personality.

To have long term success in Game, I think you have to be more authentic. Using fake personalities is just a temporary fix. I think your best Game is when you are totally comfortable with yourself and totally unapologetic about who you are.

But I admit, sometimes its helps to "fake it til you make it.

If they are banging these girls, then all respect is due to them.

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(04-06-2016 05:57 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  A Colonel I knew had a motto he repeated to me for four years:

"Praise in public, punish in private."

It's stuck out as one of the most profound things someone has said to me, though I didn't first realize it. Any time a someone makes a public spectacle out of punishing or chastising someone I question their motives and the extent of the offense which they profess to be reprimanding.

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(01-15-2016 08:46 AM)JayMillz Wrote:  [Image: 0bj1SNL.png]
We have reached new lows!!

$80 an hour

Meet Kimberly, a professional snuggler who gets paid by the hour to invite strangers into her bed for some PG-rated fun. Laugh if you want, but she's making real bank.

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(01-15-2016 01:25 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  This is actually pretty disturbing and has even more troubling implications for the future.

Two of the worst elements of feminism are the way it atomizes people (because of the paranoia it stokes), and the way it "monetizes" the human experience (since it defines people as "economic units," not humans).

This woman's cuddling service brings together both of those things. It says that if you want to participate in a basic human ritual -- touch -- you have to pay up. Maybe to some people this seems in the realm of normalcy, but to me it's like something from a dystopian science fiction novel.

Once you monetize something, there is no going back. People will stop viewing it as natural and see it as economic instead.

One big reason women seek alimony is as an informal retroactive payment for sexual services. They see what they provided sexually as having monetary value -- although we don't come out and say that in polite society. As such, whenever a woman has sex, there is a dollar value buried deep in her subconscious.

With this, women will now unconsciously put a price tag on basic touch. Once you go there, what's next?

Women charging men for conversations in clubs?
High school girls charging boys to take them to the prom?
Women charging admission for guys to enter their dorm room?

Don' laugh. Once you monetize basic human needs, trouble will follow. And even if it doesn't, all this will now be in the back of everyone's mind, which sours the whole experience.

This is such an excellent post by DOBA. It instantly reminded me of a few dating apps I was trying to use recently, and how disgusted I was with them and their "pay to talk" bullshit. Like Tinder, you have a certain number of swipes, then you have to pay beyond that number. If a girl doesn't mutually swipe on you or if her "popularity" rating is higher than yours then you can't talk to her, unless you buy the credits of course. It's $1.50 for 100 credits, and it costs anywhere from 10 to 100s of credits to initiate contact with women based on their popularity. So it could cost like $3-5 bucks per opening message, with no response. You can send them "virtual "gifts" like a picture of flowers to post on her profile, or some other stupid bullshit she will ignore, but only with enough credits of course. And I'm pretty sure most of the dime looking profiles on here are all manufactured by the site or pros or something shady. This monetizing of online interaction is already starting with a lot of dating apps trying to monetize whatever features they can, and it definitely has very disturbing implications for the future.
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On the subject of a "man" in Norway being raped by an immigrant and then justifying it to the public, AB extrapolates the underlying behavior of this mental illness.

(04-06-2016 11:51 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  I can't even be surprised anymore: his reaction is entirely what I've come to expect from Progressives, including the need to show his face, since all dysfunction must be revealed to the world to offset internal shame.

I used to just think they were incapable of recognising realistic threats to their own safely, but I've been coming to realise over the last few months they're now seemingly-incapable of labelling a threat a threat even after it has fucked them up the arse.

Now, some might label his reaction as Virtue Signalling and Moral-Sanctimony, but I suspect the answer is far simpler. Faced with facts that directly contradicted his beliefs, he's put in the position where he has to admit he was wrong and ask the forgiveness of those he had attacked for recognising the threat.

If Irony and Apathy was the Curse of Generation X, more and more I'm starting to suspect the Millennial Generation is cursed with Narcissism, with the particular dysfunction of possessing an inability to experience humility. I'm not even sure they can conceptualise what humility is.

When a Millennial Writer removes the ability of Commentariat to respond to their articles; when a games designer insults their consumers whilst expecting their patronage; when a Feminist calls any criticism of their theories 'Harrassment'; when a Christian Republican calls people out then refuses to take a debate that they know they'll lose; or a Science Fiction writer corrects his critics grammar instead of addressing the arguments; or an SJW labels everyone a bigot and tells them to 'educate' themselves; the Fat Activist telling thin women they're not 'real women'; all of these actors are revealing they lack humility.

What is Humility? The quality or state of not thinking you are better than other people.

So, in this situation:

- Actor initially thinks he's better than other people for welcoming immigrants and not being racist

- Actor is raped by immigrant, (hopefully rawdogged and without lube).

- A humbling experience completely negated by the enormous threat to a familiar, comfortable 'I am better than other people' Narcissistic Construct

- Hamsterise this need, (and progressive men possess a hamster, for their fundamental lack of masculinity means they process emotions as women do).

- "I forgive my rapist, (because he wasn't a Cis-White Male)."

- Construct reaffirmed - actor still thinks he's better than other people

(04-07-2016 03:19 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  Thinking - and drinking - further, the commonality is there.

- The student attacking her lecturer for not being 'culturally sensitive' enough.

- A reporter thinking she can manhandle a presidential candidate so he is forced to answer her question.

- An obese transsexual thinking xir personally needs to see xirself reflected in all forms of entertainment.

- A Gawker Editor snarking about child sex tapes before a judge and jury.

- An intern writing an open letter to her CEO - with her mother's help - and pointing out why she's too good to work at that company.

- A gamma male deliberately-dismissing an expert in the field on any topic being argued.

All of this is simply: I believe I'm better than everyone else.

It's amusing that this charge of obnoxious-smug-superiority was always levelled by Young Progressives at Catholics, but, from my experience, any kind of moral finger waving is simply Projection by the accuser.

Many have observed the Young Progressive Left mirrors religious thinking with the nature of sins changed - nothing new there. My thought on the matter is the moral construct has been deliberately-shifted via upbringing, popular culture and education from Objective to Subjective, meaning, each Actor personally decides what constitutes a Sin.

Noticed the casual, rampant dishonesty everywhere? Particularly, the idea that it doesn't matter if you lie, or a narrative is false, as long as it achieves the desired outcome for the individual in question.

The rules they hold others to don't apply to them.

Why?

Because they believe they're better than everyone else.

Hence the hatred of Christians: the Christian idea of humility would absolutely-repulse them. They can't be humble before others and God, because they believe they are God.

As such, their social crusading is deeply-suspicious to me. They're not helping the marginalised populations due to charity, kindness and humility. It's simply because they truly believe they are better than them, and they are incapable of advancing themselves otherwise.

Of course, if you remove humility and have a bunch of self-interested actors sermonising society, it will eventually collapse due to competing arrogance. Hence the introduction of the Progressive Stack into Occupy Wall Street - believed to be introduced by Government Subversives to destroy the movement. Everyone knows exactly who is supposed to be considered 'better' than each other.

This allows no opportunity for the advancement in political power that would expand ones personal power the unhumble crave for: "Everyone needs to listen to me!" How can one who believes they are better than the marginalised dare to speak over them?

That simply wouldn't do.

How interesting that the concept of 'Checking your privilege' appears soon after this. It can easily function as a qualifier of False Humility that then allows you to talk over someone with greater power in the stack and fight for control: "I recognise that you're marginalised I'm supposed to consider you my better BUT fuck that due to my greater understanding of Identity Politics I can educate you about your unchecked privilege dismiss and depower you by charging you with internalised 'Homsexraceopobia'."

Until something happens to knock some understanding of humility into the generation en masse - including even young Christian Commentators - I only see things getting far whinier and more unwanted dicks apparently going into orifices. I mean, what's so bad about being "Raped" in this climate - whatever that word even means any more - when being a "Rape Victim" moves you further up the stack?

It's interesting to note that University Girls don't ever seem to be 'Almost Raped' anymore, like they were in the 90's. Why could that ever be?
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(04-07-2016 09:13 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Again fellas, talk to your brothers when you need stimulating conversation. Trust me that you want them to be simple on dialog. A woman cannot be your best friend, that is not their purpose.

When they only have simple conversations it is alot easier to figure out what their motives/priorities in life are. Compare that to hyper educated American women, it can take well over a month to get any real truth out of them by the time you are done with mind games and shit tests.

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(04-08-2016 06:03 PM)NASA Test Pilot Wrote:  On the afternoon of my 13th birthday my father asked me to follow him in front of the big full length mirror in the house. He told me that he wanted to show me something that had been passed down in my family for 9 generations and I was the 10th. He stood me in front of the mirror and said…¨Look.¨ After about 5 seconds my eyes and my head were moving around and after about 10 seconds my body began to fidget. My father again said: ¨Look!¨ After about 15 seconds of looking my father then said; ¨Have you lived your day Well?¨ My answer was something like; ¨I think so.¨ After my answer my father continued; ¨As a man, you have a choice to live you day well. You need to look into the mirror each night and ask yourself, ´did I live this day well?´ If you answer no, I did not live this day well then the reason that you did not live your day well is staring at you directly in the mirror and being reflected back to you.¨ He told me to begin that night. When I was standing before the mirror in my bathroom that night, my father came in and faced the mirror with me and he put his arm around me (he was not normally an affectionate man) as he said, ¨I see the man that you will become, what did you see?¨ He walked away and I went to sleep.

The next night, my grandfather called me, this was unusual as we just spoke the day before on my birthday. He asked; ¨Did you live your day well? I gave him a better answer like yes grandfather, I did this and that. He responded ¨good, I am going to call you each evening and ask you.¨ I later found that this was also part of the tradition with the grandfather. One evening, maybe two or 3 weeks later, when I was speaking with my grandfather, I mentioned that I had not lived my day well. He told me to go look in the mirror and that we would talk tomorrow. When I arrived home from school the next day, there was my grandfather (and grandmother) who had driven many hours to spend a few days with us. Later that evening my grandfather stood with me before the mirror and asked; ¨Did you live your day Well?¨ I said; ¨yes grandfather, I lived my day Well.¨ He asked; ¨what was the difference between yesterday and today?¨ I replied with something on the order of this and that in the world. He paused, put his arm around me (he was even more stoic than my father) as we stood together before our reflections and said, ¨The reason that you lived your day Well today, and did not live your day Well yesterday is right there! (pointing at me in the mirror)¨ He took a few steps to the side and let me reflect at my image in the mirror for a few moments. He then said, I expect you, just as I expect your father to do this each day. I turned around and hugged him and said yes grandfather, I promise. For all of the years of their lives when we parted company, we always said, ¨Be Well!¨

I have continued to look into a mirror or window throughout my days and along the way the meaning of living a day Well has deepened compared to that birthday so many decades ago. Now, my birthdays have a more significant meaning as on those days when I look into the mirror I see my father and grandfather with their arm around me as I ponder the man that I have become.
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^ Yep. I have actually printed this post and stuck it to the mirror on the inside of my wardrobe. For men such as myself who have reached a point of stagnation in their lives, this kind of wisdom is incredibly valuable.
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(04-07-2016 06:56 PM)ball dont lie Wrote:  Ive been in China for 10+ years.

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I spent a 4 month period in the states recently and I can say I don't want anything to do with it. People are zombie leftists and terrify me.
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^ I really enjoyed that too. You need to have a certain immersion in that culture to refer to them as "oh those guys", instead of "how the fuck did these freaks happen in humanity?". This refreshing and "normal by virtue of not being in the West" take made me rep him -- we need more of this here to give us hope.
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(10-16-2012 02:45 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  I've been thinking the last day or two about some of the nightclub threads here and reading some guys struggling with day approach so I started analyzing what I've been doing to meet girls.

This happened by coincidence mainly because I'm a procrastinator

The problem I'm seeing is guys having a hard time in an artificial environment like going someplace specifically to try to meet women like chasing them down on the streets like Sasha or in a nightclub that they don't enjoy.

What to do...
Take the convenience out of your life.
1. Shop for every meal. You will be in the store 3 times a day.

2. Pay your bills in person. All of them and be creative with pay stations by switching up. Use check cashing places etc. Pay your cell bill at the store that has the most traffic. Pay your cable bill at their office or different places that except money for them.

3. Go in the bank. ATMs are easy but start going in. I do this and also deposit checks one at a time. Go in the bank to pay your credit card bills at the counter.

4. Don't make coffee. Go to 7-11 or wherever.

5. No more drive thru anything. Go inside.

I'm sure there's more I'll think of but when chatting up the ladies you're doing it in a place where you're supposed be which makes opening a lot easier. There's threads here about dude-purses and belts the last couple days. If you saw one you like go find it in person or try before you order online..

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(04-12-2016 11:18 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  https://www.rooshvforum.com/post-288768.html#pid288768

(10-16-2012 02:45 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  I've been thinking the last day or two about some of the nightclub threads here and reading some guys struggling with day approach so I started analyzing what I've been doing to meet girls.

This happened by coincidence mainly because I'm a procrastinator

The problem I'm seeing is guys having a hard time in an artificial environment like going someplace specifically to try to meet women like chasing them down on the streets like Sasha or in a nightclub that they don't enjoy.

What to do...
Take the convenience out of your life.
1. Shop for every meal. You will be in the store 3 times a day.

2. Pay your bills in person. All of them and be creative with pay stations by switching up. Use check cashing places etc. Pay your cell bill at the store that has the most traffic. Pay your cable bill at their office or different places that except money for them.

3. Go in the bank. ATMs are easy but start going in. I do this and also deposit checks one at a time. Go in the bank to pay your credit card bills at the counter.

4. Don't make coffee. Go to 7-11 or wherever.

5. No more drive thru anything. Go inside.

I'm sure there's more I'll think of but when chatting up the ladies you're doing it in a place where you're supposed be which makes opening a lot easier. There's threads here about dude-purses and belts the last couple days. If you saw one you like go find it in person or try before you order online..

Thank you for quoting that. I remember reading it a while ago, and couldn't remember where. That's a brilliant strategy, and I've incorporated it in my own way in the time since I've read it.

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