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WHO Says Processed Meat is as Bad a Cigaretters for Cancer
Processed meats rank alongside smoking as cancer causes – WHO

Quote:Bacon, ham and sausages rank alongside cigarettes as a major cause of cancer, the World Health Organisation has said, placing cured and processed meats in the same category as asbestos, alcohol, arsenic and tobacco.

The report from the WHO’s International Agency for Research on Cancer said there was enough evidence to rank processed meats as group 1 carcinogens because of a causal link with bowel cancer.

It places red meat in group 2A, as “probably carcinogenic to humans”. Eating red meat is also linked to pancreatic and prostate cancer, the IARC says.


The IARC’s experts concluded that each 50-gram (1.8-ounce) portion of processed meat eaten daily increased the risk of colorectal cancer by 18%.

“For an individual, the risk of developing colorectal cancer because of their consumption of processed meat remains small, but this risk increases with the amount of meat consumed,” said Dr Kurt Straif, head of the IARC monographs programme. “In view of the large number of people who consume processed meat, the global impact on cancer incidence is of public health importance.”

The decision from the IARC, after a year of deliberations by international scientists, will be welcomed by cancer researchers but it triggered an immediate and furious response from the industry, and the scientists it funds, who rejected any comparison between cigarettes and meat.

“What we do know is that avoiding red meat in the diet is not a protective strategy against cancer,” said Robert Pickard, a member of the Meat Advisory Panel and emeritus professor of neurobiology at Cardiff University. “The top priorities for cancer prevention remain smoking cessation, maintenance of normal body weight and avoidance of high alcohol intakes.”.

But the writing has been on the wall for ham, bacon and sausages for several years. The World Cancer Research Fund has long been advising people that processed meat is a cancer hazard. It advises eating products such as ham, bacon and salami as little as possible and having no more than 500g a week of red meat, including beef, pork and lamb.

Prof Tim Key, Cancer Research UK’s epidemiologist at the University of Oxford, said: “Cancer Research UK supports IARC’s decision that there’s strong enough evidence to classify processed meat as a cause of cancer, and red meat as a probable cause of cancer.

“We’ve known for some time about the probable link between red and processed meat and bowel cancer, which is backed by substantial evidence.

“This decision doesn’t mean you need to stop eating any red and processed meat. But if you eat lots of it you may want to think about cutting down. You could try having fish for your dinner rather than sausages, or choosing to have a bean salad for lunch over a BLT.”

The statement from the IARC, published as an article in the journal Lancet Oncology, substantially toughens the line, especially against processed meat. But while cancer scientists are concerned about the risks of eating too much meat, some nutritionists maintain that the extra risk is relatively small and that meat has other benefits.

Dr Elizabeth Lund – an independent consultant in nutritional and gastrointestinal health, and a former research leader at the Institute of Food Research, who acknowledges she did some work for the meat industry in 2010 – said red meat was linked to about three extra cases of bowel cancer per 100,000 adults in developed countries.

“A much bigger risk factor is obesity and lack of exercise,” she said. “Overall, I feel that eating meat once a day combined with plenty of fruit, vegetables and cereal fibre, plus exercise and weight control, will allow for a low risk of colorectal cancer and a more balanced diet.”

Prof Ian Johnson, emeritus fellow at the Institute of Food Research, also said the effect was small. “It is certainly very inappropriate to suggest that any adverse effect of bacon and sausages on the risk of bowel cancer is comparable to the dangers of tobacco smoke, which is loaded with known chemical carcinogens and increases the risk of lung cancer in cigarette smokers by around twentyfold.”

The North American Meat Institute said defining red meat as a cancer hazard defied common sense.

“It was clear, sitting in the IARC meeting, that many of the panellists were aiming for a specific result despite old, weak, inconsistent, self-reported intake data,” said Betsy Booren, the institute’s vice-president of scientific affairs. “They tortured the data to ensure a specific outcome.

“Red and processed meat are among 940 agents reviewed by the IARC and found to pose some level of theoretical ‘hazard’. Only one substance, a chemical in yoga pants, has been declared by the IARC not to cause cancer.

“The IARC says you can enjoy your yoga class, but don’t breathe air (class 1 carcinogen), sit near a sun-filled window (class 1), apply aloe vera (class 2B) if you get a sunburn, drink wine or coffee (class 1 and class 2B), or eat grilled food (class 2A). And if you are a hairdresser or do shift work (both class 2A), you should seek a new career.”

Where do you guys stand on this? I love ham and sausages! Do you agree with the findings?
10-26-2015 01:03 PM
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Should I stop eating processed meat or start smoking?

Decisions, decisions..
10-26-2015 01:05 PM
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Yes, I'm sure they'd be quite happy with men eating less red meat and getting less essential hormones and protein. All part of the plan, right?

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10-26-2015 01:28 PM
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The subjects we used for our research were 75 year old obese men that no longer have the ability to exercise with a hereditary predisposition to cancer. They ate a steak once a week and God, Allah or whoever you believe in is getting back at those animal eating murderers.

We all know that the red meat helps produce testosterone and no proud male feminist should have testosterone. They need to man up and become vegans which is great for all men because we have evolved past the canine teeth to tear meat our caveman ancestors used so much.
10-26-2015 01:42 PM
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WHO says a lot of things. Im sure they'd like everyone to be nice and docile with a barely measurable level of T.
10-26-2015 01:58 PM
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The WHO IARC classification only classifies how likely something can increase your risk of cancer, not by how much it increases cancer risk.

So if something increases your cancer risk by 75%, or by 0.5%, they still get the same IARC classification.

Smoking and processed meat both increase the risk of cancer, but smoking is much worse. But they'll get the same IARC classification, because IARC is not about the degree of risk, but rather the certainty of risk.

As for processed meat, these days they throw all sorts of junk in it. I gave up on sausages because I couldn't find any sausages that don't have 'sugar' listed as an ingredient. Why the hell they started putting sugar into meat I don't know. Same story for cold meats. I used to eat a lot of ham but when I cut sugar out of my life I had to cut ham out because there are no sugar-free hams that I can find. To my horror I recently realised that there are no sugar-free bacon strips available anywhere. There are usually a host of other dodgy sounding ingredients too.

So I'm stuck eating unprocessed meat (mostly pork chops and chicken, the occasional steak) and eggs (without bacon, which is just sad).

I'm still not convinced about the link between red meat and cancer, but I suppose anything in excess can be bad for you.

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I will never ever turn down a nice piece of entrecote with brie, asparagus, garlic potatoes and a pepper-sauce...
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(10-26-2015 01:59 PM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  The WHO IARC classification only classifies how likely something can increase your risk of cancer, not by how much it increases cancer risk.

So if something increases your cancer risk by 75%, or by 0.5%, they still get the same IARC classification.

Smoking and processed meat both increase the risk of cancer, but smoking is much worse. But they'll get the same IARC classification, because IARC is not about the degree of risk, but rather the certainty of risk.

As for processed meat, these days they throw all sorts of junk in it. I gave up on sausages because I couldn't find any sausages that don't have 'sugar' listed as an ingredient. Why the hell they started putting sugar into meat I don't know. Same story for cold meats. I used to eat a lot of ham but when I cut sugar out of my life I had to cut ham out because there are no sugar-free hams that I can find. To my horror I recently realised that there are no sugar-free bacon strips available anywhere. There are usually a host of other dodgy sounding ingredients too.

So I'm stuck eating unprocessed meat (mostly pork chops and chicken, the occasional steak) and eggs (without bacon, which is just sad).

I'm still not convinced about the link between red meat and cancer, but I suppose anything in excess can be bad for you.

It's the curing process where the sugar is added to the bacon.

What you can do instead is buy pork belly and use maple syrup or honey along with whatever else is needed to cure the bacon.

And the WHO is just a puppet NWO organization designed to encourage the plebs to not eat protein and instead eat cheaper grains.
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(10-26-2015 01:59 PM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:  The WHO IARC classification only classifies how likely something can increase your risk of cancer, not by how much it increases cancer risk.

So if something increases your cancer risk by 75%, or by 0.5%, they still get the same IARC classification.

Smoking and processed meat both increase the risk of cancer, but smoking is much worse. But they'll get the same IARC classification, because IARC is not about the degree of risk, but rather the certainty of risk.

As for processed meat, these days they throw all sorts of junk in it. I gave up on sausages because I couldn't find any sausages that don't have 'sugar' listed as an ingredient. Why the hell they started putting sugar into meat I don't know. Same story for cold meats. I used to eat a lot of ham but when I cut sugar out of my life I had to cut ham out because there are no sugar-free hams that I can find. To my horror I recently realised that there are no sugar-free bacon strips available anywhere. There are usually a host of other dodgy sounding ingredients too.

So I'm stuck eating unprocessed meat (mostly pork chops and chicken, the occasional steak) and eggs (without bacon, which is just sad).

I'm still not convinced about the link between red meat and cancer, but I suppose anything in excess can be bad for you.

You should definitely try making your own, sausage at least. No nitrates, just pork and spices. Pork belly cooked crispy may be a delicious bacon alternative for you.
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Guys, honestly there is probably some truth to this assessment by the WHO. I find it strange that we get so many posts about eating "natural" and vitamins and shit, but then when something comes out saying processed meats are bad for you and can increase disease risks (is that very surprising?), people are quick to shut it down. It's not like they are selling a product here. They are telling you something that may increase your risk of disease.
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Dupe thread: https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-51297.html

This one was first but the other has generated more discussion.

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