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(11-14-2015 04:13 AM)Thaitanium Wrote:  This is a video from a journalist who lives next to the emergency exit of the Bataclan. Pretty disturbing, people getting dragged away, blood on the street:

http://www.lemonde.fr/attaques-a-paris/a...09495.html

It's just horrible to see people wounded laying on the ground and others just stepping over them running away. I don't want to be too judgmental as I wasn't there, but it looks like they could have been helped without others putting themselves in further danger. At least drag them away with you. One guy is hopping on one leg. Put his damn arm around you and get him out of there.

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(11-13-2015 07:51 PM)DINO212 Wrote:  And Dearborn is right down the street. I am sure it's inhabitants are celebrating tonight.............

I'm 60 miles from there.. and attend concerts within 1-20 miles of Dearborn regularly. If our jackass president hasn't thought to increase intell on US soil in Dearborn by now, I've always had a feeling something stemming from Dearborn will be big shit here in the states.
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(11-14-2015 04:35 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  
(11-14-2015 04:13 AM)Thaitanium Wrote:  This is a video from a journalist who lives next to the emergency exit of the Bataclan. Pretty disturbing, people getting dragged away, blood on the street:

http://www.lemonde.fr/attaques-a-paris/a...09495.html

It's just horrible to see people wounded laying on the ground and others just stepping over them running away. I don't want to be too judgmental as I wasn't there, but it looks like they could have been helped without others putting themselves in further danger. At least drag them away with you. One guy is hopping on one leg. Put his damn arm around you and get him out of there.


People tend to not think rationally in emergency fight-or-flight situations. Once the flight response kicks in, blood flow gets diverted to to the large muscles, heart rate goes up massively and adrenaline courses, priming you to GTFO ASAP. There's not many biological resources left for rational thought or compassion.

We've evolved to sprint away in the opposite direction from the threat - it's an automatic, primitive reaction.
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(11-14-2015 04:28 AM)DeeDee Wrote:  
(11-14-2015 03:51 AM)Hades Wrote:  Migrants are bigger islamophobes than anybody. Why would they want to leave their monstrous shitholes they called home if they didn't have reason to fear.

What kind of argument is this? I am not denying there are no welfare seekers within the immigrant batches, but you can also not deny that anything they called their home has been bombed to shit and this is regardless of what religion they follow. They (not all of them) left their homes because they would die of starvation, immense suffering, emotional torture or simply have no home to return to. Syria (and most surrounding countries) are at war with a handful of fractions, maybe you will stay when your entire city is leveled and you can't find any family members, but those people have called it a day and went abroad.

One of the biggest bullshit hashtags trending on twitter is "islam is peace".

If anybody has a moral responsibility to speak out against this nonsense, it's Syrians primarily and "moderate" muslims secondarily. Still it is unwise to consider their input sacrosanct. Playing on their sympathies (rather, getting played) leaves the gates wide open for extremists to come in.

Tl : dr - if islam is peace, why are their countrymen abandoning in hordes?
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(11-13-2015 05:34 PM)spalex Wrote:  The religion of what strikes again?

I hope to god Putin invades here next.

Yeah, that will totally solve the problem...

(11-13-2015 05:42 PM)Libertas Wrote:  Fucking unbelievable.

Obama is supposed to come on in 3 minutes, I think. Predicting Eel's response.

Oh well, I hope that this will help Marine Le Pen. Once again she's proven right.

You want a extreme right-wing leader as leader of a major European country? They would not only get rid of the recent migrants but all people which aren't White French.

(11-13-2015 05:45 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Samseu was fear mongering they said.

I understand now we will have to fight in our lifetimes. My grandfather did it and so can I, but honestly I'd prefer to wait until my back gets better.

Here's the major problem with that hope. Most European countries have paltry militaries. I believe Denmark has 800 strike force soldiers. That's nowhere near enough to handle tens of thousands of violent immigrants and migrants. Most countries do have National Guard like people but they have been de-armed mostly.

As this happens, German police have arrested right wing debaters for 'hate speech'.

Time to get your hunting license friends.

Denmark has one of the lowest immigration rates in Western Europe. And they're not intervening in places of the world they have nothing to do with, nor do they possess resources. Why would they care funding a strong military?

(11-13-2015 06:14 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  Lots of people have died unnecessarily tonight, and for what? The politicians will pay lip service, saying something like "we must stand together in this moment" like they always do. But they created this mess and the blood is on their hands.

Exactly.

(11-13-2015 06:17 PM)kaotic Wrote:  The worst it got was the 9/11 attacks in NYC and probably some kids today don't realize that made these attacks look like a side story and the world still continued as usual. Granted US went to 'war' on 2 countries but nothing really was collectively done against the middle east. Until the entire middle east is basically wiped out and rebuilt in such a way that Islam itself wouldn't be revenant I don't see this ever going away. The problem is the majority of people who practice Islam are harmless people so it's a cluster fuck. Islam is the only religion in the world(that I know of) where the extremists are aggressive fucks harming people. You don't hear Christian extremists killing people in 2015 on a mass scale.

The US caused the problem in the first place, so they should fix the problem. And as for the last sentence, there are radical buddhists in Myanmar for example, killing a muslim minority. How's that?

(11-13-2015 07:13 PM)Repo Wrote:  I'm just saying that loose immagration policies seem to have contributed to this, and at this point they are so ingrained that this will be a challenge for years to come.

Many muslims in France have been living there for years or generations, just think of the Muslim countries in Africa which have been French colonies.

(11-13-2015 10:00 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Except for one place -- the f'ing paradise on earth known as the United States of America. A paradise, despite its many, and very real, problems and difficulties.

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That's one reason -- among many -- to stay in this country and to fight to make it a better place.

And it will finally fall to us -- as it always does -- to deal with the grotesque monsters who are behind this attack and to rid the world of them for good.

The US foreign policies of the past ~20 years have created this monster which didn't exist before in this form. So yes, the US (government) should show responsibility and clean up the mess. I fully agree with durangotang here.

At the same time our "leaders" are to blame for supporting the US in wars we've got nothing to do with, and this time the common people in France paid the price. It's a misery and tragedy and I wonder if there will ever be an end to this nonsense.
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(11-13-2015 05:48 PM)void Wrote:  If this not a right wing terrorist attack, it is Jihad. I bet they will discover they got to France by boat or through the great floodgates of Germany. If this is true, I hope the French press makes Merkel partly responsible for this.
Confirmed, major left controlled sites like zeit.de and spiegel.de state a man was arrested Thursday in Bavaria having weapons and TNT in his car. Fuck these politician traitors

http://www.n24.de/n24/Nachrichten/Politi...fasst.html

They state it was a guy from Montenegro coming from Austria. Germany lost control of its borders weeks ago.

--> To any sane person this means an unnumbered amount of Terrorists roaming France and Germany at the moment.
Of course nobody makes this statement. I hope Merkel's daily dose of Soma was not enough to let her sleep in peace tonight.

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False flag the west needed for putting boots on the ground in Iraq and Syria again..
Same old game, seen many times already..
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(11-14-2015 04:54 AM)Hades Wrote:  
(11-14-2015 04:28 AM)DeeDee Wrote:  
(11-14-2015 03:51 AM)Hades Wrote:  Migrants are bigger islamophobes than anybody. Why would they want to leave their monstrous shitholes they called home if they didn't have reason to fear.

What kind of argument is this? I am not denying there are no welfare seekers within the immigrant batches, but you can also not deny that anything they called their home has been bombed to shit and this is regardless of what religion they follow. They (not all of them) left their homes because they would die of starvation, immense suffering, emotional torture or simply have no home to return to. Syria (and most surrounding countries) are at war with a handful of fractions, maybe you will stay when your entire city is leveled and you can't find any family members, but those people have called it a day and went abroad.

One of the biggest bullshit hashtags trending on twitter is "islam is peace".

If anybody has a moral responsibility to speak out against this nonsense, it's Syrians primarily and "moderate" muslims secondarily. Still it is unwise to consider their input sacrosanct. Playing on their sympathies (rather, getting played) leaves the gates wide open for extremists to come in.

Tl : dr - if islam is peace, why are their countrymen abandoning in hordes?

Their countrymen are abandoning because their country is being bombed en masse. I also do not agree with you that they have the moral responsibility to speak out, why would someone who doesn't feel associated with a certain group, continuously have to speak out when said group performs such an act? It will only give them attention and associate that group with the other group their actions. Are all Westerners constantly obligated to speaking out because the Western allies are bombing hospitals and innocent bystanders to deliver democracy and liberate people in the Middle East?

Again, I am not in favor of these attacks and what happened in Paris is horrible but the blame should not be put on what you see on the news today, but what happened years ago. The situation we have here is not reversible by right now fixing what is right now wrong in MENA. The problem comes from within Europe and without any revolts or consistent transformations from the inside, it doesn't really matter what happens on the outside.
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Sometimes I think that this whole immigration bullshit was sold to the West by Israeli Jews trying to get the "big dogs" prejudiced against middle eastern muslims, so they can take back the holy land in the midst of the bloodshed.
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(11-14-2015 05:21 AM)Hades Wrote:  Sometimes I think that this whole immigration bullshit was sold to the West by Israeli Jews trying to get the "big dogs" prejudiced against middle eastern muslims, so they can take back the holy land in the midst of the bloodshed.

Please note that if you make such a bold statement, you should refer to Zionists, not Israeli Jews. It's a major difference.
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Queastum, you are clueless about Denmark. They have never intervened? They have actually been involved in the wars in both Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and Syria. They have been been specifically mentioned in terror threats and experienced a terrorist attack earlier this year. All population growth in Denmark over the last 10 years has been from immigration. They have more restrictive policies than some other countries, but immigrants still make up well over 10 percent of the population. Your contention that they don't have resources is particularly ridiculous as it's one of the richest countries in the world.
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(11-14-2015 03:18 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  
(11-14-2015 02:24 AM)N°6 Wrote:  The Jihad within the gates has more to do with multiculturalism and the incessant defence of the usury-based meltdown by the mass-media and 'hatecrime' laws and less to do with Islam itself.

It has everything to do with Islam, this is what Islam is about. On it's own, with no need for exterior influences.

Even if your views on Islam are 100% correct, it would have been totally impotent against Western capitals without multiculturalism. It didn't smash down the gates, the liberal boomer élite opened them. Anyone who has witnessed a nationalist demonstration will tell you that the shit and urine bombs, rotten eggs, spits and threats come from middle-class White hipsters and bourgeois anarchists.

What was smashed down was the morale of Europeans who knew that this was all going to end in tears and when the Jihad actually did some conventional fighting, it has mostly been against secular Muslim countries and Russia with the backing of NATO.

I can prove that our real enemy is those which support multiculturalism rather than Islam: The élite is far more afraid of native European men going into Brevik-mode than it is of the Jihad.

All those new 'hatelaws' the invention of Newspeak psy-op words such as 'Islamophobia' are all for Western men's psychological consumption. Stand by for the élite to make proclamations against the vague notion of 'extremism' which is code for a European reaction.
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Car of terrorists had Belgian license plate:
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(11-14-2015 05:05 AM)Quaestum Wrote:  The US caused the problem in the first place, so they should fix the problem.

(11-14-2015 05:05 AM)Quaestum Wrote:  The US foreign policies of the past ~20 years have created this monster which didn't exist before in this form. So yes, the US (government) should show responsibility and clean up the mess.

What absolute apologist garbage. And more than that, just factually wrong.

I'll let Hitchens address this mentality.





http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/fischer/090410
Quote:"Even prior to our Declaration of Independence in 1776, Islamists under the control of an Ottoman warlord in Algiers were pirating American ships and enslaving their Christian crews.

Two future presidents, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, were dispatched in 1786 to London to negotiate a peace treaty with the Dey of Algiers. They reported the Dey's reason for his Islamically-inspired hostility towards America:

"t was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise."

"[i]This commitment to jihad, you will note, occurred long before American "imperialism," before any use for oil had been discovered, before there was a state of Israel, and before America had done anything to anybody. Militant jihad, then, as it does today, stems from a profoundly dangerous religious impulse that sees only the World of Islam (Dar al-Islam) and the World of War (Dar al-Harb), with the world of Islam spiritually obligated to use force to subdue the infidels and bring them to belief in Allah and his prophet.

By 1800, 20% of the annual federal budget was consumed with tribute and ransom payments to Islamists.

In total, between 1500 and 1800 over 1 million white Christians were captured by Muslims and subjected to imprisonment in fetid prisons or brutal slavery. To escape the brutality, some embraced Islam by "turning Turk."

Frankly, your implication that Americans are responsible for "creating" these monsters is at minimum just plain ignorant, and more than that a slap in the face to my ancestors who were brutalized by these pieces of garbage, for the crime of simply being white, Christian, and not accepting Allah.

You are the enemy because of who you are to them, not because whatever recent actions a government has taken.

You are the enemy simply because islam claims to be the last and final word, and you reject it.

Americans are dreamers too
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The biggest irony of all is that when SJWs and assorted immigration fanatics claim that "these refugees are fleeing exactly terrorists that did this, we need to let them in", they are actually speaking against their own argument.

That is only an even stronger reason for the borders to be closed and for the people to be processed very slowly and thoroughly in order to find out who is really a refugee and who is just an illegal economic immigrant or a terrorist. Just like the EVIL Hungary has been doing for months now.

Let the cuckolds rage all they want, the blood is on their hands.

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(11-14-2015 05:21 AM)Hades Wrote:  Sometimes I think that this whole immigration bullshit was sold to the West by Israeli Jews trying to get the "big dogs" prejudiced against middle eastern muslims, so they can take back the holy land in the midst of the bloodshed.

Has anyone seen this ?
Mossad dresses like local muslims kill and abduct innocent people in hospitals:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laCnvF1ZwXE

I'm pretty sure they screamed Allahu akbar according to a witness lol..
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(11-14-2015 01:36 AM)Roosh Wrote:  [Image: CTwJ6VnXAAA7z5k.jpg]

I recognize Soros, Juncker, Hollande and Merkel - but who is the last one?

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(11-14-2015 01:36 AM)Roosh Wrote:  [Image: CTwJ6VnXAAA7z5k.jpg]

I recognize Juncker, Hollande and Merkel - but who are the other two?
A Swedish politician of the Moderates (centre-right). He's a Jew too. Forgot his name. EDIT: Fredrik Reinfeldt
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(11-14-2015 03:59 AM)CodyB Wrote:  
(11-14-2015 03:51 AM)Hades Wrote:  Migrants are bigger islamophobes than anybody. Why would they want to leave their monstrous shitholes they called home if they didn't have reason to fear.

Here is how it is going down though.

Migrants come to western country, keep their beliefs and are somewhat thankful (though not always) they are in a richer country with benefits.

Migrants children only know the Western Country. They live in relative poverty. In Europe especially they are all kept in ghettoes and they also take on their parents' beliefs. They grow up around like minded people, in the same or similar situations and they take on a perspective very different to the general population.

French Algerians, Syrians or English Pakistanis, Somalians etc. grow up with very warped angry realities.

What's going to eventually happen is Europe is going to have another nationalist movement similar to what happened in the early 20th century. These fringe nationalist movements will take power of Europe. They already have in Greece. And you will have another European war.

The elite in the US wants to start a european war to loot the continent. They are continuously creating sparks in Europe expecting the fire to start. Ukraine was a perfect spark, but the fire didn´t start yet.
I imagine in the height of the ukraine crisis, just a wrong phone call or wrong words spoken could have started another full scale war.

All the gold in London went to Fort Knox with the WWII.

At this moment the US want to mantain their leadership not because they are better than others, like they used to be. But through weakrning of other countries.

Just wondering what the wolkswagen scandal as to do with the migrant invasion. And the blackmailing of german officials to keep the oficial position of welcoming migrants.

It started with the 9/11, arab spring, Euro crisis, Ukraine crisis, Charlie Hebdo.

In Brazil they are using Lava jato to weaken the country.

How many scandals are still untold. And will remain untold if you follow instructions.

The US started this in Syria. But it seems only european countries are welcoming full scale migrants. Why?

There was a moment in history when the elite commited acts of treason against their people. An idiot called Hitler came out of this. And madness followed.

I was in Paris in June. I was told first hand by a rich jew that jews are creating funds in France to lend money to other jews who wish to relocate to other countries, namely US and Israel. One jew recently is selling her 300sqm apartment in Saint Germain and bought a 3M Villa in Miami.

The only question now is will the european leaders have capacity to stand against this offensive.

Have no idea if the train attacks stopped by americans, was just a way of completely diverting attentions from the US. The supposed good guys.
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(11-14-2015 01:36 AM)Roosh Wrote:  [Image: CTwJ6VnXAAA7z5k.jpg]

I recognize Juncker, Hollande and Merkel - but who are the other two?
A Swedish politician of the Moderates (centre-right). He's a Jew too. Forgot his name. EDIT: Fredrik Reinfeldt

UKIP leader Nigel Farage? (outside the circle)
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RE: Paris terrorist attacks, 100+ fatalities (November 2015)
(11-14-2015 06:10 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I recognize Soros, Juncker, Hollande and Merkel - but who is the last one?

The guy in the lower right corner is Nigel Farage of the UKIP. He's been warning that uncontrolled immigration is madness and will lead to a bloody terrorist attack if it's not stopped. He was called all kinds of names, but he was right. Will he be vindicated? ha. They will probably say "These far right islamaphobes created tensions that led to blah blah blah."
11-14-2015 06:35 AM
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RE: Paris terrorist attacks, 100+ fatalities (November 2015)
(11-14-2015 06:00 AM)47R Wrote:  
(11-14-2015 05:21 AM)Hades Wrote:  Sometimes I think that this whole immigration bullshit was sold to the West by Israeli Jews trying to get the "big dogs" prejudiced against middle eastern muslims, so they can take back the holy land in the midst of the bloodshed.

Has anyone seen this ?
Mossad dresses like local muslims kill and abduct innocent people in hospitals:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laCnvF1ZwXE

I'm pretty sure they screamed Allahu akbar according to a witness lol..

Tl, dr: multicultural empires are stronger than pure nations. Islam gives the womenless losers of society a chance to get women.

I think there are many perspectives and angles to these discussions. One of the lesser mentioned is this: Great empires like the US, British, French, Sowjets, Ottoman, Rom were all multicultural empires. So basically if you want to be a powerful nation you have to face the problem that you have no chance in war against these kind of empires.

So naturally nations just for survival have to go the multi cultural path. Think of it when there will be the next war between England, France and Germany who will win? Probably the one with more population.

The muslims are not really the problem. Think of it how many Europeans were killed by muslims in the last 100 years and how many were killed by other Europeans?

The real powers are US, Russia, China, European Nations. The muslims are used as tools to fight each other. They don´t have any means to kill millions of western people.

There is a chance that some western guys who are the losers of societies may even like the muslim religion. The most powerfull motivator is women and with Islam some men may have a better chance to get women than now. I think many muslims just serve lip service to their religion because they don´t want to be controlled by their women like it seems to be in the west sometimes.

At the moment Islam seems to be the only system that can kind of withstands the feminisation. The trade off is one lives in the middle ages and if one doesn´t live in that one gets bombed in to the middle ages.
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11-14-2015 06:39 AM
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RE: Paris terrorist attacks, 100+ fatalities (November 2015)
So any of you have any front-end, middle-end development experience? I agree with RooshV that their narrative is collapsing, but what Roosh is forgetting is that all of these social media sites from Facebook to YouTube to Twitter are owned by liberals and SJWs. If they can't win the information war, they silence their opponents.

Other than Voat, I don't know of another non-SJW social media site and allowing free speech. I think that a few of us could build a Twitter clone though, if we could find a way to monetize it, and make it clear that our site supports free speech.

I predict that it's only a matter of time before we start to see the mainstream silence other views on social media; either we build now, or it will be too late.
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