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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
(11-28-2015 08:01 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  I met the female image of myself, and she won. That's the biggest rep pill I've had to swallow.

Is that you Solomon II?
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Seeing very attractive women who choose sell pussy/do porn who don't look like escorts.
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(11-28-2015 04:27 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  I posted this in another thread ...

Quote:A year ago around this time.

Girlfriend of two years who i loved to death ... everything's going well. She was head over heels in love with me at least that's how she acted. We were " The Perfect Couple" according to everyone around us.

Went back to Ethiopia for vacation for 5 weeks and told her i was breaking up with her. My plan was to prank her and propose to her when i came back.Was sort of surprised when she took it very well. Even met her super busy dad and asked him for his daughters hand in marriage while back home.

I come back and find out she got tag teamed by two D-2 Basketball players. (Always told me how much she hated athletes and how arrogant they are). She also had 2 different "boyfriends" besides those guys during that time frame.

All in all banged 4 guys (that i know of) in 5 weeks. When i confronted her in tears she tells me to " stop being emotional and take it like a man!" and how it's my fault. Same girl who a mere 3 months earlier told me that when she dies she wants to get buried in the same casket as me.

Had murder/suicide fantasies for almost half a year afterwards. The only thing that held me back was the love for my father and the relatable similar experiences i read on this forum.

Biggest lesson was the realization of how quickly women move on. They could swear undying love for you today and be as cruel as if they've never known you a week later all depending on how they feel at the moment. Also the fact there is no such thing as an "innocent girl". There are a lot of naive & innocent guys but the most innocent girl you meet will be more Red Pill than your average RVF member.

A vital lesson - call it a "tell" in women I've dated, is that any demographic of men (or women if they're trendily bisexual as many claim) for which they state on more then a few occasions to "hate," they actually have a deep lustful connection to for which they're trying to convince you to never suspect them of fucking or wanting.
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that I was a virgin who couldn't get laid to save his life.
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(11-28-2015 05:40 PM)robreke Wrote:  Nowadays, you can fuck a girl for hours, make her squirt and, in short, give her fantastic sex and she still has the capacity to ghost or flake.

They just have so many options and dicks are dispensable resources to western women.

Related - flaking is the norm.

This was not the case in the 90s when I first started dating.

Amen to that.. in the game tool box, having out of the ballpark sex isn't enough to make them honest. It used to be. Even if you maintained the DGAF attitude and solid frame. Strange new world of a silent porn set is what the lowest common denominator is.

I actually had this convo with a girl recently who said the dating scene is tough (really bitch? for you.. a women !?). I told her everyone has too many options, especially women. I said:"If you don't reduce your options, and settle for fewer or just one, eventually as you age. all your desireable options will be gone and you'll be that cat lady hating the world, when instead you should hate yourself for lacking the fortitude of self-control." She sat there looking at me stunned. Nuked that convo.
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
Leaving my wife for a co-worker (Russian 9/10) only to have it all end 8 months later with her when she fucked my boss (breaking up his marriage) and me being the last to know in the office.

Textbook hypergamy.

This event is what lead me to the Forum.
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Jesus Christ what an uplifting thread.

The only way to deal with this is to lower expectations of women to the point of seeing them as physically grown children. They really are not that far above children mentally.

I feel bad for the marriage proposal explosion, 5 weeks and already she has more sexual partners in that time than many men have in their entire lives.

You know what I think is cool in a woman? The girl who gets her heart broken, smashed into pieces, but simply sitting indoors, grieving about it, asking her mom for advice or comfort, and looking at herself to see what mistakes she may have made, to see if she can improve on anything so that she can maybe keep a decent man in the future despite this setback. She might bake a few cookies with her mom to distract her.

Of course the "easy" option is there for women these days. Instead of baking cookies with mom, they take out their trojan horses and flick through hundreds of willing and ready penis. They can numb themselves from the painful association between love and sex; they can inject themselves with transient but instant feel good drugs of attention and casual sex. This is why more girls choose this option. They are in pain now and need to solve it now. Children in pain similarly don't think of long-term consequences, they just want the pain to stop now. Likewise the pain for women is so great in the moment that do not think of the future mental/physical/social consequences of getting fucked by a bunch of 7ft black football players at the same time. Once she does something like this, it will always linger in the background and she will always have to hide it. Many of the unpleasant women in western society have been through this process and it is truly soul rotting. As early as 25 they can be ruined, even if they maintain some of their looks from their prime at ~18 years old.

The woman who takes time to grieve and reflect without resorting to the quick fixes is among the higher quality women emotionally at least. She could just as easily do the same as the women who take the easy way out, but she chooses not to. Self-restraint is proclaimed to be a form of oppression in western society so fewer women choose this option.

At least your accidental "test" of her character saved you from great damage of marrying such a woman. See it as a very lucky escape.
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(11-28-2015 09:00 PM)Windom Earle Wrote:  Leaving my wife for a co-worker (Russian 9/10) only to have it all end 8 months later with her when she fucked my boss (breaking up his marriage) and me being the last to know in the office.

This event is what lead me to the Forum.

The wow factor of your post deserves some notice. I'm finding completely ghetto bullshit out of seemingly "good girls" becoming the norm. Total destruction is often the result. Apparently the modern cunt gets off on this thought of ruining everything they can, killing as many birds with their one stone of death.

How I wish their entire family could know the truths of their secret activities, but then the unconditional love kicks in from their parents to "save" them, and discredit the truth. Funny, yet they are incapable of unconditional love.

A better term to describe modern westernized women in a nutshell is
Unconditional Destruction.

I've got two similar stories involving myself TL;DR, for which I'll spare the words.
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(11-28-2015 09:00 PM)Windom Earle Wrote:  Leaving my wife for a co-worker (Russian 9/10) only to have it all end 8 months later with her when she fucked my boss (breaking up his marriage) and me being the last to know in the office.

Textbook hypergamy.

This event is what lead me to the Forum.

Damn. Yeah, that'll do it. Russians strike me as cold blooded. Ukrainians, not quite as bad.
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Could you elaborate on number 2? Did you think it was a mistake? I've actually been playing around the idea of converting to Catholicism but I'm not sure how much of the doctrines I can go along with.
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(11-28-2015 09:14 PM)Ingocnito Wrote:  
(11-28-2015 09:00 PM)Windom Earle Wrote:  Leaving my wife for a co-worker (Russian 9/10) only to have it all end 8 months later with her when she fucked my boss (breaking up his marriage) and me being the last to know in the office.

This event is what lead me to the Forum.

The wow factor of your post deserves some notice. I'm finding completely ghetto bullshit out of seemingly "good girls" becoming the norm. Total destruction is often the result. Apparently the modern cunt gets off on this thought of ruining everything they can, killing as many birds with their one stone of death.

How I wish their entire family could know the truths of their secret activities, but then the unconditional love kicks in from their parents to "save" them, and discredit the truth. Funny, yet they are incapable of unconditional love.

A better term to describe modern westernized women in a nutshell is
Unconditional Destruction.

I've got two similar stories involving myself TL;DR, for which I'll spare the words.

Being involved with her also opened my eyes to various personality disorders, such as sociopathy, which I was oblivious to.

In the aftermath, putting the puzzle pieces together, she is a textbook sociopath.

The signs were:

- could not accept the unconditional love I have for my daughter, but rather, saw it as competition and a threat (and would go into fits of rage);

- would express undying love for me, then off-handedly say things like "I think we're more like fuckbuddies";

- pupils like pancakes when she was aroused (she's bi-sexual and a rabid nymphomaniac, coming every 30 seconds or so). First time I saw it, it actually freaked me out a bit; and

- would take pleasure in (attempting to) incite jealousy within me.

These are just some of the issues I faced. Some others included her parents not approving of us and refusing to meet me, and an ongoing permanent residency issue.

Her primary goal in the end was to wear me down to the point of breaking me, and then move on to the next challenge.

In a way, I'm glad it played out the way it did. With all the knowledge I've gained here and the experiences I've had since then, I'm a much better man for it now and I wouldn't have been able to pull this off.
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I'm sure that I've posted this somewhere on the forum before.

I was 15 years, old dating a girl a class ahead of me. I was going to her house and saw some guys from my high school football leaving her place grinning from ear to ear. I asked them what was up, and they proceeded to tell me how they spit roasted the girl I loved for the past 2 hours. I laughed and played it off, but on the inside I was dying. My mom found me in my room trying to cry as quietly as possible. She gave me "the talk". It was about female nature, and the games that women play. Her last words to me were "Son, anything goes when it comes to hoes. Protect yourself at all times". The next day she tried to walk back some of what she said attributing them to being drunk (she had some of her friends over that she hadn't seen in years). I was a different man after that.

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^ Damn that's brutal at that age.

I have a player friend, he had a high school girlfriend that got trained by the basketball team. He never saw women the same way, and he wasn't some dork. He was always the edgy drug taking skater surfer type.

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(05-19-2016 12:01 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  If I talk to 100 19 year old girls, at least one of them is getting fucked!

WestIndianArchie Wrote:Am I reacting to her? No pussy, all problems
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Is she reacting to me? All pussy, no problems
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(11-28-2015 05:40 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  
(11-28-2015 05:26 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  Read Jarhead, by Anthony Swofford. I'm going off memory, but he tells a story about a Marine in another company getting a video from home. In the middle of it, his wife is fucking his neighbor. The Marine is then put on suicide watch.

Yeesh. Who sent the video, the wife?

That was pretty common when VHS tapes were the norm. I know of a guy in a different company whose wife did the same thing. Halfway through a movie there she is getting railed by "Jodi."

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(11-28-2015 08:01 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  
(11-28-2015 07:26 PM)The Wire Wrote:  
(11-28-2015 06:54 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  I half agree. It was probably not a good idea as a "prank", but then for her to fuck four guys in five weeks really proves she's not wife material, heartbreak notwithstanding.

I've seen a lot of girls go on a dick rampage after a guy breaks their heart that deep into a relationship where they were not expecting it. It's pretty common.

It's probably some kind of defensive mechanism for some because I think at that point they probably lost all trust for men and try to desensitized correlations between sex and love. A lot of us have been beneficiaries of these escapades from girls.


Yeah man, you stuck our hand in the fire and was surprised it got burned. She may have made an amazing wife, but your actions prove that you weren't ready for that. Her rebound carousel was not classy, but it's not unexpected given the circumstances. Don't blame her, just accept that you got what you wanted. I've been there and have sabotaged some relationships that were great simply because I wanted to chase pussy.

Nah this is a poor excuse haha Western mentality at its finest.

The prank was retarded that is 100%.

She is a hoe. Plain and simple, she isn't excused that easily. She doesn't have enough people in her life supporting her and keeping her in check, therefore she can be a Western hoe. Hoe. Hoe. Hoe.

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(05-19-2016 12:01 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  If I talk to 100 19 year old girls, at least one of them is getting fucked!

WestIndianArchie Wrote:Am I reacting to her? No pussy, all problems
Or
Is she reacting to me? All pussy, no problems
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(11-28-2015 09:25 PM)Wutang Wrote:  Could you elaborate on number 2? Did you think it was a mistake? I've actually been playing around the idea of converting to Catholicism but I'm not sure how much of the doctrines I can go along with.

I assume you're referring to my #2.

I actually became a Catholic. The internal structure of the church is a mess. For example, in my church, with a few exceptions, most of the men are fairly weak. This is a college campus and some of them are afraid of violating drinking age laws. The girls aren't awful (most of them are rather feminine and attractive). Of course, religious Catholic girls are tough... (GAME ADVICE NEEDED).

In terms of the doctrines:

I accept the virgin birth in some sort of fideistic way (authority of the RCC). The perpetual virginity of Mary is not supported by the evidence (the word in Greek for brother is "adelphos."). Paul consistently calls James "ton adelphon tou kyriou," or the Brother of the Lord.

The Trinity I've no issue with. My Christological beliefs are complex.

Was it a mistake? No, not at all. I sometimes wish I'd converted to Orthodox Christianity instead, but when I look at the other American Christian denominations, I'm rather happy with my choice. The RCC largely discourages parishes and dioceses from doing their own thing. There are things that are set in stone (i.e. the order of the Mass), and priests are forced to operate within strict guidelines. Usually, that's a good thing. I'll also say that, as opposed to most American Christianity, there's a lot less "prosperity theology" and the "moralistic, therapeutic deism" that seems fairly pervasive.

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There is no god and no afterlife.

Don't debate me.
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(11-28-2015 04:27 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  told her i was breaking up with her. My plan was to prank her and propose to her when i came back.

(11-28-2015 08:01 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  
(11-28-2015 07:26 PM)The Wire Wrote:  
(11-28-2015 06:54 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  I half agree. It was probably not a good idea as a "prank", but then for her to fuck four guys in five weeks really proves she's not wife material, heartbreak notwithstanding.

I've seen a lot of girls go on a dick rampage after a guy breaks their heart that deep into a relationship where they were not expecting it. It's pretty common.

It's probably some kind of defensive mechanism for some because I think at that point they probably lost all trust for men and try to desensitized correlations between sex and love. A lot of us have been beneficiaries of these escapades from girls.


Yeah man, you stuck our hand in the fire and was surprised it got burned. She may have made an amazing wife, but your actions prove that you weren't ready for that. Her rebound carousel was not classy, but it's not unexpected given the circumstances. Don't blame her, just accept that you got what you wanted. I've been there and have sabotaged some relationships that were great simply because I wanted to chase pussy. I've pushed females away through my actions because subconsciously I knew I didn't want a serious long term relationship. The biggest red pill to take away from that is to not deny yourself what you truly want.

The subconscious is a powerful thing.

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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
My neighbor when I was 14 was a 29-year-old married woman with a five year old daughter from another man. Her husband was a typical blue pill dude she met later. I had sex with her, and phone sex, which actually led to divorce and her getting her husband's house.

Suffice to say, I was primed and ready for the red pill. I never had any illusions to shatter.
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^ You need to post more stories. Your wisdom started early.

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(05-19-2016 12:01 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  If I talk to 100 19 year old girls, at least one of them is getting fucked!

WestIndianArchie Wrote:Am I reacting to her? No pussy, all problems
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Is she reacting to me? All pussy, no problems
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(11-29-2015 01:02 AM)Pride male Wrote:  There is no god and no afterlife.

This I regard as a good thing, since it means I'm not going to hell. Pimp

But seriously, one of the most astonishing revelations for me personally has been discovering how mentally/emotionally/psychologically fucked up so many modern women are.

The official statistic is that 1 out of 4 women is on some form of psych meds, usually antidepressants and anti-anxiety meds.

Recently I met a girl who had a weird henna tattoo on her arm. She explained it's a symbol for those who have struggled with eating disorders.

The next day, I talked with a girl who told me she had been in rehab for drug addiction. I didn't inquire about the specifics, but she implied it was for hard drugs.

I also met a girl not long ago and invited her to an event I was attending that evening. I later looked at her Instagram — she has photos of the self-inflicted "cutting" scars on her arms.

A few weeks ago I was up late and noticed an ambulance outside my apartment building. I went to investigate, thinking something might have happened outside. Turns out the paramedics were treating a young woman in her apartment who was having an anxiety attack.

(I should mention this girl has a gigantic tattoo of what looks like the face of some pop star on her shoulder. As soon as I saw that, I knew she was mentally/emotionally damaged.)

This is just recent stuff off the top of my head. None of these girls I know well, nor do I care to know them well.

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11-29-2015 01:27 AM
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
Was in love with this latina girl.

She dumped me for some dude, on Valentines Day while I was deployed in Afghanistan.

I've been running through bitches heartlessly since then.
11-29-2015 01:44 AM
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
(11-29-2015 01:02 AM)Pride male Wrote:  There is no god and no afterlife.
Same here I don't get why there are still many forum members who believe in a god.
11-29-2015 01:53 AM
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
(11-29-2015 01:27 AM)Scoundrel Wrote:  
(11-29-2015 01:02 AM)Pride male Wrote:  There is no god and no afterlife.

But seriously, one of the most astonishing revelations for me personally has been discovering how mentally/emotionally/psychologically fucked up so many modern women are.

The official statistic is that 1 out of 4 women is on some form of psych meds, usually antidepressants and anti-anxiety meds.

It's crazy how often I run into women that have mental issues of some sort in my every day life. There was this Starbucks barista I used to chat up every now and then when I would be at the store she worked at. One time while she was on break she was sitting next to me as I was reading and we ended up having a fairly long conversation. I was reading one of Kant's works so I told her how it was about metaphysics when she asked me what the book was about. As soon as she heard the word 'metaphysics' she assumed it must be about ghosts, auras, and other New Agey type stuff and she showed me a crystal that she carried around and explained to me that it helped with her mental illness. Keep in mind at no point did I bring up anything related to that and not only that I wasn't really asking her any personal questions about herself but yet that still came out of nowhere.

One of the things I like to do for fun is to go sing karaoke and there's a group of friends that I meet up with about once a month to do so. There's a stable group that you always see at these sessions and also people that come every now and then so it's pretty common for me to meet new people. One time I met this girl there and after the session she added me on Facebook. I was looking through Facebook and saw she had linked to some posts on her Tumblr (red flags being raised already) and I decided to look through her Tumblr out of curiosity. I found that she actually had posted pics of her cutting herself and even had them tagged so by clicking one of the tags you could go through all the pics she had posted up. Along with the pics she had also written some posts about why she cuts and she talked a lot of about how much she loathed herself and how she deserves all the pain she's inflicting on herself - pretty warped stuff.

I also see a bunch of girls on my Facebook feed that constantly complain about being depressed and post memes about mental health both as a way to encourage themselves to get through the day but also just to wallow in self-pity. While I do think there's most likely more men then women who are full blown deranged (as in they need to be put in a straight jacket and confined somewhere) it seems like when it comes to more "small" stuff like the behavior described in this thread you definitely see women more prone to it.
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11-29-2015 02:14 AM
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