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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
I knew marriage was joke and women have no morals after I fucked this married bartender( told me after the fact) the first night I met her in the backseat of her car.
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
1) That women are eternally children, if not half-children, as per Schopenhauer.

As a teenager this jarred me--why did it seem like girls are becoming ever more alien, vapid, and immature?

After a few years I began to internalize that I was on the path to becoming an adult, in the strict sense of the word--a process impertinent to being female.

2) That demographics matter in the United States.

Levels of test scores of other demographics as 16-17 year-olds, levels of which I surpassed as a 12 year-old, would be near-guarantee admission into any university--whereas near-perfect scores for 16-17 year-old me would merely make it a roll of the dice.

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I started liking Asians. White bitches disappeared from my mental space aside from collision and vocalization avoidance tracking software and life has never been better. Banana
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(11-28-2015 04:17 PM)odesseus Wrote:  Biggest red pill moment ever:

Playing captain save a ho for 4 years only to have her walk out and leave me with the baby. Then die. There's no more fooling yourself after that.

That's gnarly, but how'd she die? Wasn't clear how that fit in with a red pill moment.

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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
Toss up between :

- females being glorified children.
- the levels of female duplicity & inherent unreliability, based purely on how 'haaappy' they are.
- that females are virtually incapable of thinking beyond themselves.
Does not matter if I say "x in general" or what have you.
Females always have to internalise the idea & respond in a shrill fashion - "I'm not like that...!".
No of course you're not. Dodgy

Which then all leads to the realization that, being the deep thinker type, I'll probably never meet a girl that I'll relate
to on an intellectual level.
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Haha I am actually sitting at home now due to being ill, and this thread has made me take a trip down memory lane. Ah well, I remember in my early teenage years a lot of the best looking girls in school would often take trips to the ghetto and get banged by really funky looking drug dealers and degenerates. I mean they weren't even picking the classy looking gangsters, its like they would purposely go for the ones who looked like they had aids. That was a hard pill to take, especially as these girls were put on a massive pedestal, and we were all actually very young, I mean 13 to 15 years old.

Probably one of the positive red pill experiences I had. Was when I started to travel, the whole SJW narrative we get fed to us on a daily basis is actually very oppressive. Whether you like it or not, it starts to seep into you. Although in most parts of the world, it just simply doesn't apply. If you are a man who has ambitions in money, business, getting women, having a family/religion; you are actually well accepted and welcomed.

Working in law enforcement was a big wake up call for me. Seeing how quickly 'shit can hit the fan' and how unprepared most people are when it comes to predators and violence in general. I highly recommend reading the book 'Meditations on Violence' By Sgt Miller.
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
Living in a first world Asian country for several years, long term relationship with a local girl in her early 20s. Brought her back to my country. Couldn't find work for over 6 months and exhausted all of my savings looking after her, traveling around my country and giving her regularly spending money (since she was on a tourist visa and couldn't work). Did all of the cooking and most of the cleaning. She was my princess and I wanted to demonstrate how much I loved her. Paid for several tickets back to her country to visit family. Finally found work and things were looking up as her residence visa was almost complete. Bought a ring, planned to propose and assumed she was the future mother of my children. Came home from work one day and she was gone almost without a trace. Found out from a former workmate that she had been fucking a guy in her trips back home and was now in a relationship with him.

That's when a switch went off in my head. You don't "make love" with your girl. You utterly destroy, punish and own her. And then you reward her when she behaves well. And then you punish her again. You put your own needs before her needs. She is there to serve you on your terms, and if she can't do that, you move on.

And it's amazing to see the lengths and desperation that girls these days will go to convince me to commit to them. I'm talking about some of the most depraved sexual acts I've experienced. These days I tend to leave girls worse off than when I found them.

It's also true that I will most likely die lonely, childless and regretful.
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(11-29-2015 03:03 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  I started liking Asians. White bitches disappeared from my mental space aside from collision and vocalization avoidance tracking software and life has never been better. Banana

Why?

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"An average man is no man at all in the eyes of women,"The Darknight

They don't care about the challenges you've overcome, the hurdles you've jumped and the process of getting there: they just want results. As with most things when dealing with women, it's not the how or the why they're interested in- it's the what.

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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
When it comes to women, tattoos, piercings, and mental health, I think it's a sign of the times. Most women are born with an inclination towards being nurturers, and being looked after by a man that will love and protect her. Growing up, their father gives them that sense of security, and when they get older, a husband.

But now many women grow up in fatherless homes, and seek attention to fill the void. When they get to college age, they don't know any better and go for the most attractive guys who won't commit. Because they never learn how to be a woman a guy would want to keep around, the guys leave. The pattern repeats and the women grow number and number to love. Attachment becomes difficult and the prevalence of options destroy all incentive to improve. The older women see the younger, less jaded women as a threat, and encourage them to seek careers over families to undermine the competition.

Eventually the women know that with all the random cock and their inability to bond, they are damaged. Their ability to nurture a family and give warmth to a real man has been squandered. As they age, they'll do anything as a last ditch attempt to garner attention, no matter how artificial. They get tattoos, piercings, shave their heads, anything to turn heads and make them feel important. But it doesn't last, and the emptiness is still there. They turn to cheap wine, drugs, medication, and self mutilation to fill the void. Their outward appearance is a cry for help. They want a man to notice they're in pain, someone to heal that wound and provide genuine love, just like daddy did when she fell and scraped her knee. But it's too late, daddy is gone forever, and no man will ever be able to repair the damage she inflicted on herself. Millions of women will needlessly live this way, and the rates of psychological disease will continue to climb.

Feminism has a lot to answer for.
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As far as red pills go, for me it has to be realizing how dangerous a psychologically damaged woman can be. I dated a chick who was a 9 that claimed to be a ramp model. Her beauty and charm gave me rose tinted glasses, but the first red flag was when she asked "Why don't we just get married?" a few months after meeting her. When I said no, she would flip her shit and I began to realize that she was probably crazy. I stopped taking her seriously and figured I could string her along and just enjoy the sex, but I was wrong. Instead, she sucked me deeper into her reality. She would either be an insane bitch or super loving and warm, and I got addicted to the emotional swings.

She wanted me not to talk to any women, including coworkers. She saw my ex on my skype list and videocalled her to threaten her. That led me to getting threatened by my ex's former navy "operator" brother in law, which I eventually defused but worried about for a while. She started talking about hiring assasins to "get even" with the women that talked to me. If I went anywhere, she expected me to text her when I arrived and left, and would flip out if I didn't. She was freaking me the fuck out and I started distancing myself from her, which only made her act more insane to try and hold on to me. Her obsession with assassins grew and she started making them into stories about her, which led me to write this thread, almost getting me banned here since everyone thought I was trolling. I read that now and realize how ridiculous it is. Makes me laugh and shake my head. Finally I cut myself off from her and realized that no matter how hot the chick or good the sex, none of that is worth your freedom or safety.

She contacted me out of the blue later, I think to fuck with me. She sent me a picture of a baby, and said "she looks like her father..." After shitting myself for a few minutes, she sent a picture of her bf at the time. Who knows, maybe he was cucked by me, but I'm not trying to find out. About a month later she was back on DIA, and searched for me. Anyway, she's blocked now and I have no idea what happened to her and no desire to learn. I became so paranoid after that experience, that the smallest red flags will get me to move on. My friends think I'm being way too picky, but if they experienced what I did first hand...

TLDR; don't stick your dick in crazy.
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(11-29-2015 07:06 AM)Horus Wrote:  Living in a first world Asian country for several years, long term relationship with a local girl in her early 20s. Brought her back to my country. Couldn't find work for over 6 months and exhausted all of my savings looking after her, traveling around my country and giving her regularly spending money (since she was on a tourist visa and couldn't work). Did all of the cooking and most of the cleaning. She was my princess and I wanted to demonstrate how much I loved her. Paid for several tickets back to her country to visit family. Finally found work and things were looking up as her residence visa was almost complete. Bought a ring, planned to propose and assumed she was the future mother of my children. Came home from work one day and she was gone almost without a trace. Found out from a former workmate that she had been fucking a guy in her trips back home and was now in a relationship with him.

That's when a switch went off in my head. You don't "make love" with your girl. You utterly destroy, punish and own her. And then you reward her when she behaves well. And then you punish her again. You put your own needs before her needs. She is there to serve you on your terms, and if she can't do that, you move on.

And it's amazing to see the lengths and desperation that girls these days will go to convince me to commit to them. I'm talking about some of the most depraved sexual acts I've experienced. These days I tend to leave girls worse off than when I found them.

It's also true that I will most likely die lonely, childless and regretful.

In reality, you sound like a broken man. You eye severely hurt by a woman that you dumped a lot of financial and emotional resources into.
Now you feel like you have to hurt other women in the same way you were hurt. You think that, the only way to find comfort is to bring others, possibly good women, into the abyss.
Then you and other guys will turn around and complain about how broken women are.

It's odd that you realize that you only continue to damage yourself and know your demise, but continue the same path.

In that respect, you're worse off than the average woman that is near oblivious to her problems.

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1)No body cares that you are smart and not even that you are right.

2)Understanding stupidity is a science that is harder than actual science.

3)To succeed in this world it is critical to understand how stupid people think.

4)Stupid people have advantage over smart people in this world, because they know how other stupid people think and they don''t think that much but do.

5)I am not as smart as I think I am.

6)There can never be peace between stupid people and smart people.
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(11-29-2015 10:41 AM)Mage Wrote:  1)No body cares that you are smart and not even that you are right.

2)Understanding stupidity is a science that is harder than actual science.

3)To succeed in this world it is critical to understand how stupid people think.

4)Stupid people have advantage over smart people in this world, because they know how other stupid people think and they don''t think that much but do.

5)I am not as smart as I think I am.

6)There can never be peace between stupid people and smart people.


Interesting. I read somewhere that it is practically impossible to have a genuine connection with a person you have over a 15 IQ point difference with. Pretty sure there is at least some truth that.
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(11-29-2015 10:52 AM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  Interesting. I read somewhere that it is practically impossible to have a genuine connection with a person you have over a 15 IQ point difference with. Pretty sure there is at least some truth that.

I have heard it defined approximately like this (and I agree):

Smart people despise stupid people because they see how stupid people always bump into them and each other, always step on soles of everyone, constantly messing up the smart persons work, their good ideas, their lifestyle. Smart people see potential to make this life better for themselves and maybe others too but they know they will have to deal with stupid people that will put thousands of blocks to their plans both consciously and unconsiosly.

Stupid people don't feel or understand that they do anything wrong. They see smart people as shady and grumpy people that are always unsatisfied with something and making problems out of nowhere, they fear them and they want to get rid of them to live in peace in a simple and clear world.


I think because if differences in IQ smaller minority groups that would like to subvert or rebel against larger groups will always exist. And then there will be groups within groups. Basically you can't have peace in world or even a smaller case society if everyone is not on the same level.
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(11-29-2015 10:52 AM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  Interesting. I read somewhere that it is practically impossible to have a genuine connection with a person you have over a 15 IQ point difference with. Pretty sure there is at least some truth that.

Come on man. If this were true, I could never have a genuine connection with anyone. Angel

Separately, a comment on the story about your girlfriend. I'm surprised no one mentioned the real reason she did what she did. It was not because she "quickly moved on" and it was not to "dull the pain". Rather, she did it because she knew you would find out, and she wanted to hurt you as much as possible (and succeeded).

As the saying goes, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. She felt humiliated by what she took to be a brusque dismissal, and she wanted to make sure to return it back a hundredfold. If she could have fucked your best friend, she would have done that too. That is how proud bitches act when they are fundamentally enraged, and one must be careful about making enemies of them.

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Mid 90s hip hop artists were the most relevant observes on the state of male-female interactions.
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All of high school, unconfident, slightly-beta, not very attractive, had a crush on a good-looking shy girl in my grade who never says a word. Put her on a pedestal in my mind. But I never said a word to her because I was too nervous.

I assumed that I'll either work up the courage to ask her out one day or she'll do the same to me. I was an idiot who assumed she liked me too. Who knows. Maybe she did, but probably not.

Senior year she throws a Project-X party at her mansion-of-a-house when her parents are away, gang comes by and steals $50,000+ worth of stuff, she bangs some dude(s) and thereafter becomes a slut.

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I kind of wish my embrace of the red pill/neomasculinity would have been a few years sooner so I could have made a move before she went south for slut town. She was very cute. Oh well.
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The one I'm still trying to take: that there is virtually no chance of finding a good, chaste woman to raise a family with. The fact that game is not an ends to a means, game is the end. That things are simply going to get worse and worse, with no end in sight.
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(11-29-2015 07:25 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  
(11-29-2015 03:03 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  I started liking Asians. White bitches disappeared from my mental space aside from collision and vocalization avoidance tracking software and life has never been better. Banana

Why?

I can find a cute, pleasant, feminine Asian (Chinese) 7+ with a masters in a hard science who is a virgin probably within a few weeks of moving to any decently sized Chinese city or large Anglosphere university. Is there one or a handful of white women of this nature somewhere in the world? It's possible, but I wouldn't bet a large amount of money on it.
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GoldHawk kind of made me think of an interesting point. There's a lot of luck as to how girls turn out. They can either stay within the narrow range, or one bad weekend where they get drunk or one bad breakup can cause them to do something stupid that they'll never really recover from.
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
Some of the biggest :

1) That nobody cares about you. They only want what you can provide, your wealth, material objects, social company to pass the time, or an emotional rag of a shoulder to cry on. You are appreciated at your strongest and despised when you're weak or sick.

2) People are fucking selfish. All of them. Even that unicorn you have holed up in your fantasies, scratch the surface and they're all homogeneous.
AWALT. They're manipulative and deceptive, only the degree at which they function differs. Playing games come naturally to them.

3) The hamster. Enough has been said about the ubiquitous hamster for me to elaborate appropriately. I've come to recognize some of these traits in even my mother and sister.
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(11-29-2015 02:04 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  GoldHawk kind of made me think of an interesting point. There's a lot of luck as to how girls turn out. They can either stay within the narrow range, or one bad weekend where they get drunk or one bad breakup can cause them to do something stupid that they'll never really recover from.

I think, with her anyway, it was mainly because she was very shy and didn't say much. And because she wasn't an athlete (which my small school idolized), she didn't get any attention, had few friends, and didn't have any guys that showed interest. She wanted more attention, specifically from guys, and was cock-deprived. So eventually she just cracked.

Seriously one of my biggest regrets from high school. She was cute and her parents were loaded. She was more bangable than most of the volleyball players, but other guys didn't even notice her because being with an athlete was top-priority for most.
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
Biggest red pill for me?

After 19 years of marriage, being a totally blue pill shlub, wondering where the hell my sex life had gone, finding the manosphere, reading and learning for a few months and then finally, finally.....being shit tested *again* and telling my wife, for the first time in my life, to stop being a cunt. And holding frame throughout the ensuing nuclear reaction. And then having the most filthy, wild sex with this feral creature that my wife had turned into.

And then realising that just about everything about the red pill was true. That I could no longer deceive myself. I could no longer ignore the signs and flags.

I had married a carrouseler. Serial monogamist and occasional ONSer. Christ knows what her n is.
I was Captain Beta Bux. I should have worn an outfit with a cape and 'BB' on the chest. Like the worst's crappiest superhero.
I had sold myself short. Looking back I can see a number of 7s and 8s who were interested in me but I constantly failed their tests.
I had never questioned the blue pill narrative I was taught. And all the time thinking I was pretty clever.

The blue pill is a thief. It can steal the best of a man without him even knowing he's being robbed.

The hardest part about swallowing the red pill is owning it. I may not have been the architect of my situation but I was complicit in my own submission. Once you own this shit you start owning your own life. Since my revelation I've gone hard red-pill on my marriage and even my wife agrees it's the best it's ever been. But at what cost? I wasted 19 years that could have been as good as the last 6. I am with a women that is unable to love me, nor me her, as deeply as we should. I spent years slaving away to earn money that she spent on useless crap to fill the void where a real man should have been. A real man that was at her side the whole time but had fallen for the lies of feminism and equality to the point of self emasculation. Thank God, and sites like this, those days are over now.
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
It just occurred to me that I could expand on the significance of my three RP moments...

#3, my GF running out for an abortion while screaming it was my fault, that taught me that even the one of the best women I've known (in terms of moral character, empathy, integrity, compassion) is still capable of turning on me in a split second if it suits her. Zero hesitation. Since then I've never felt fully attached to a woman, even the one in the story who I regrettably stayed with for another two years
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