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That women fantasize about rape
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(12-01-2015 05:28 PM)civpro Wrote:  That women fantasize about rape

is it that surprising though..
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(12-01-2015 03:30 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  And he typically talks to 5-10 average girls to get that average bang. Rejected 80-90% by girls he thinks are beneath him.

Doesn't even bother with the hottie.

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That's just the sad part. If they're going to get rejected by average girl why not talk to the hotties? They project their own low self esteem onto the girls they think are below them.

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(12-01-2015 04:36 PM)The Ligurian Wrote:  
(12-01-2015 02:38 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  That and every guy goes for the slightly above average or plain girl for the easy lay.

My take:

The girls who were the best lays in my life were not the hottest girls I have slept with.

The filthiest girls who let me push boundaries have been older (26 and up ) and 6 or 7 max on the scale. The worst bangs have been the youngest girls ( teenagers up to 21 ) and the hotter girls for whom the reward was not worth the effort most of the time.

Therefore with my personal goal of being simply a fast and preferably filthy bang ( no LTR or marriage desires ) I happily target those plain girls who are on average an easier lay. I'm not talking obviously unattractive girls but just regular 6s and 7s who I obviously see some attractive quality in to get a boner.

I have friends of mine who would say things like 'I would not have banged that chick you banged' and I respect each man's choice but think, but you were at home watching Netflix and texting an unresponsive 9 whilst I was having another sexual adventure with a fun and grateful chick who had not been banged for 6 months and was eager to please.

That does not mean I don't also want to bang hotter women. I do and try to. But if you are a sexual man who takes pleasure in sexual adventures then there is nothing wrong, and everything right in banging the plain chicks too.

Missed my point entirely. I was saying they ONLY approach girls they feel they are beneath them to get a supposed easier lay which is why a lot of these girls have the biggest bitch shields. I have gotten more shit from 7s and upper 6s than 8s because of this.

It's kind of why girls reject guys harshly if they are above them in terms of looks and are thirsty. They get a kick out of rejecting guys whom are good looking simps. On the other hand, I've gotten props from both males and females for chasing what I like.

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(11-29-2015 04:03 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Which then all leads to the realization that, being the deep thinker type, I'll probably never meet a girl that I'll relate
to on an intellectual level.

Right there with ya. And I've tried, believe me. I can be quite sociable but this is definitely my biggest obstacle. Now that I've gotten older, it's even worse, my tolerance for sitting around and bullshitting (with anyone, not just women) is non-existent.

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(11-29-2015 06:37 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  Working in law enforcement was a big wake up call for me. Seeing how quickly 'shit can hit the fan' and how unprepared most people are when it comes to predators and violence in general. I highly recommend reading the book 'Meditations on Violence' By Sgt Miller.

This is the one thing that gets me salty about the views on law enforcement in America today. No doubt that there have been some truly bad instances (like that one in South Carolina where the guy was running away and he straight up shot the guy dead), but on its entirety, it's one of those situations where it's easy to criticize and play Monday Morning quarterback. Cops deal with the people, on a day to day basis that we only see on T.V. Everyone who's never dealt with some of these people thinks that they can all be talked to rationally and calmed down. They also seem to think that there's always a clear and defined escalation process. But then again, most people are completely removed from violence these days (oddly enough, it's due to police).

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That there's no god and our existence is pointless
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(11-30-2015 06:10 AM)Ambicatus Wrote:  -Demonic "possession" is 100% real and nowhere near as cool or entertaining as it looks in the movies.

Jesus that gave me goosebumps! Could you please elaborate more?

Have you ever had some crazy/paranormal experiences? From personal experience, I can attest that something just has to be out there! Spirits, demons, ghosts ... whatever you may call it. Some things that our 5 senses cannot perceive.

I experienced this when i was 13 when my mom's uncle passed away. Let's call him Uncle X. The post-burial ceremony lasted 2 days and was hosted at our house. Friends and family came over and paid their respects & condolences.

After the guests left we all go to sleep. I've always been a light sleeper and get woken up by the slightest of noises. Around 3 AM ... I hear some sounds, wake up briefly try to go back to sleep. Now i hear some murmuring. This time can't go back to sleep.

I turn on the lights and decide to check what's going on. When i open my bedroom door i see my father in the hallway in his pajamas. He asks me what I'm doing up this late and if i was on the phone with my friends. I tell him i just woke up to check on some noises I heard of people talking. He asks "so it's not you"?

While we're talking we hear a door opening and closing from downstairs. My knees turned to jelly! My father goes back to the master bedroom, grabs his gun and tells me to stay upstairs. Fuck that! I quickly grab my Tennis racket and follow him.

We slowly walk downstairs and notice my 5 year old sister's bedroom lights are on. We rush in and .... my sister is wide awake with a story book in her little arms and looking at us like a 5 year old being awake at 3 in the morning is the most natural thing in the world.

Dad asks her if she's ok and why she's not asleep.

" I was talking to Uncle X!".

We're both visibly disturbed at this point and assure her she was just dreaming. We didn't tell her that he was dead however. She adamantly insists and claims he was there the whole time drinking & reading her the story book she had in her arms and that he just left before we came in.

" See there is his glass". We check out her table and there is a quarter full glass of Whiskey on the rocks. Uncle X's drink of choice!

My heart sank into my stomach. We really never brought it up after that day but that shit still haunts me to this day.
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
- My Fiance, who was stunningly beautiful, all of a sudden didn't want to get married. I was 29.

- My wife, who had nagged me for years to get married, decided after a couple of years of marriage that she did NOT want to be married.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat. As others have observed above, after a couple of these, you start to understand the logic to women: There is NO logic to women: Whatever they want now, they want something different in ten minutes. Like a child. The only predictable thing about them is that they are entirely Unpredictable. Therefore, untrustworthy. And therefore, not worth tying your future happiness to, any more than you would to a petulant 5 year old. And when you realize there is no logic to it, that this magic unicorn pussy you've chased your whole life doesn't exist, and so you shouldn't worry about it...then you find peace.

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Many years ago, when I was about 18, I used to think that the optimum game was that of "alpha provider". Girls want an alpha, I thought, and they also want a relationship (I didn't even know sluts existed), so probably the best game is being like a 50s tough family guy. Little did I know. I made plentiful mistakes for about 8 months until I realized that you must portray the image of being a rogue, outside of the system, unapologetic (only in demeanor, not verbally) about fucking tons of girls. It also baffled me that girls who were obvious sluts were trying to friendzone me. At around 18 and a half, this slight correction opened up the floodgates, and my results exploded. But it was an important lesson.
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You can be rich, good looking, funny, loving, generous, smart, popular and famous and a woman can still cheat on you and leave you for someone else.

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(11-30-2015 09:06 AM)Windom Earle Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 08:39 AM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 06:10 AM)Ambicatus Wrote:  -Demonic "possession" is 100% real and nowhere near as cool or entertaining as it looks in the movies.

Would you mind starting a new thread to elaborate on that? I'd be interested to hear more. There was a few nights when freaky shit was happening which got me to start praying again.

I'm pretty sure he's being facetious fellas.

Women can change tack at the drop of a hat, depending on what suits them, with pretty much no regard for how it affects others - hence the reference to demonic possession.

Is there ever a story! Unfortunately it wouldn't be prudent for me to post a thread about it, the details would make it too easy to identify me. However, for those of you who have expressed interest I will be sending a mass PM later.

(11-30-2015 09:17 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  ^^^
I think he's just saying that when a crazy bitch acts crazy, she acts really fucking crazy.

Nope, I'm talking about someone being literally "demonized". Although it was served up with a generous helping of crazy too.
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(12-02-2015 12:01 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  Many years ago, when I was about 18, I used to think that the optimum game was that of "alpha provider". Girls want an alpha, I thought, and they also want a relationship (I didn't even know sluts existed), so probably the best game is being like a 50s tough family guy. Little did I know. I made plentiful mistakes for about 8 months until I realized that you must portray the image of being a rogue, outside of the system, unapologetic (only in demeanor, not verbally) about fucking tons of girls. It also baffled me that girls who were obvious sluts were trying to friendzone me. At around 18 and a half, this slight correction opened up the floodgates, and my results exploded. But it was an important lesson.

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(12-02-2015 04:32 AM)brick tamland Wrote:  
(12-02-2015 12:01 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  Many years ago, when I was about 18, I used to think that the optimum game was that of "alpha provider". Girls want an alpha, I thought, and they also want a relationship (I didn't even know sluts existed), so probably the best game is being like a 50s tough family guy. Little did I know. I made plentiful mistakes for about 8 months until I realized that you must portray the image of being a rogue, outside of the system, unapologetic (only in demeanor, not verbally) about fucking tons of girls. It also baffled me that girls who were obvious sluts were trying to friendzone me. At around 18 and a half, this slight correction opened up the floodgates, and my results exploded. But it was an important lesson.

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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
That most of the bangs I didn't get was more fault.My first love who destroyed me,which then developed into a really bad case of Oneitis. Which fucked me up for years.It nagged me until the red pill set me free.I saw her game.

My ex wife's behavior.And all my female friends who all wanted to fuck me but I was to dumb to realize .I friend zoned alot of women.

That my gut feeling was right all along but I just couldn't put it into words...I should never have got married but I was so blue pill.I was dumb and manipulated a willing slave with a scarcity mind set....all because I just didn't get it.

Try going to a funeral with a red pill lens on..you wish you could turn back to the blue pill you really do.Once that eulogy starts you tear it apart in your head.
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(12-02-2015 03:39 AM)Ambicatus Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 09:06 AM)Windom Earle Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 08:39 AM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 06:10 AM)Ambicatus Wrote:  -Demonic "possession" is 100% real and nowhere near as cool or entertaining as it looks in the movies.

Would you mind starting a new thread to elaborate on that? I'd be interested to hear more. There was a few nights when freaky shit was happening which got me to start praying again.

I'm pretty sure he's being facetious fellas.

Women can change tack at the drop of a hat, depending on what suits them, with pretty much no regard for how it affects others - hence the reference to demonic possession.

Is there ever a story! Unfortunately it wouldn't be prudent for me to post a thread about it, the details would make it too easy to identify me. However, for those of you who have expressed interest I will be sending a mass PM later.

(11-30-2015 09:17 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  ^^^
I think he's just saying that when a crazy bitch acts crazy, she acts really fucking crazy.

Nope, I'm talking about someone being literally "demonized". Although it was served up with a generous helping of crazy too.

If you felt comfortable, I would be interested to hear more of your story. If not, I quite understand.
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(12-01-2015 11:59 PM)The Father Wrote:  - My Fiance, who was stunningly beautiful, all of a sudden didn't want to get married. I was 29.

- My wife, who had nagged me for years to get married, decided after a couple of years of marriage that she did NOT want to be married.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat. As others have observed above, after a couple of these, you start to understand the logic to women: There is NO logic to women: Whatever they want now, they want something different in ten minutes. Like a child. The only predictable thing about them is that they are entirely Unpredictable. Therefore, untrustworthy. And therefore, not worth tying your future happiness to, any more than you would to a petulant 5 year old. And when you realize there is no logic to it, that this magic unicorn pussy you've chased your whole life doesn't exist, and so you shouldn't worry about it...then you find peace.

Women, the ancient arab proverb goes, want fried ice :/

I suspect that's the reason why nearly every culture in human history has treated women as having no agency, and placed enforcement of marital vows in the hands of men and the state. Modern society is playing with fire.
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The biggest red pill I ever had to swallow, and this sounds trivial now that I think of it, but was realizing that most, if not all, women are sexual.

That is not to say that some women do not hold reservations about sex, and are more particular about who they sleep with (see: non-sluts), but all women at their cores are just as horny, if not more horny, then men. This radically shifted my view about women when I was 17 or 18 and coming to this realization. I used to be in the party that, "that woman is not like that!" until I started fucking the good girls and realizing they had the same sick sex fetishes I did. Then I realized there's no real metric for determining how slutty a girl will be in the bedroom, other than how much work you are willing to put in to make her act on her true sexual urges.

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Dated a girl for 5 years starting at the age of 15. We broke up on my first trip to Afghanistan when I found out she was banging one of my friends from back home the entire time. Took me 6 months to get my 2nd bang because I had zero game at that time. Eventually things started picking up over the course of the next several years and gathered a moderate amount of notches through the that time. Then I met a girl who I developed a serious oneitis for and started a relationship with. Found out that during a house party at my place some random dude was going down on her in my bathroom while I was upstairs, she even had the audacity to fuck me minutes after this happened. I view that as the moment that truly broke the barrier for myself.
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(12-02-2015 10:51 AM)RouteBackwards Wrote:  The biggest red pill I ever had to swallow, and this sounds trivial now that I think of it, but was realizing that most, if not all, women are sexual.

That is not to say that some women do not hold reservations about sex, and are more particular about who they sleep with (see: non-sluts), but all women at their cores are just as horny, if not more horny, then men.

If this helps your game mindset then go for it, but I honestly don't think this is true at all. Women can go without sex for months with barely any consequences to their daily life. Men have far greater T levels which leads to a much higher sex drive.

The whole "women are just as..." stuff is just 2nd wave feminism in disguise. It has led to guys stressing over whether the girl is satisfied or not. Sure, women are sexual beings, but for the most part they are considerably less sexual than men.

For women, sex is mostly just a means of getting what they want from us. Why else would sex mysteriously decrease after an LTR is secured or baby born?

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(12-02-2015 12:09 PM)dreambig Wrote:  
(12-02-2015 10:51 AM)RouteBackwards Wrote:  The biggest red pill I ever had to swallow, and this sounds trivial now that I think of it, but was realizing that most, if not all, women are sexual.

That is not to say that some women do not hold reservations about sex, and are more particular about who they sleep with (see: non-sluts), but all women at their cores are just as horny, if not more horny, then men.

If this helps your game mindset then go for it, but I honestly don't think this is true at all. Women can go without sex for months with barely any consequences to their daily life. Men have far greater T levels which leads to a much higher sex drive.

The whole "women are just as..." stuff is just 2nd wave feminism in disguise. It has led to guys stressing over whether the girl is satisfied or not. Sure, women are sexual beings, but for the most part they are considerably less sexual than men.

For women, sex is mostly just a means of getting what they want from us. Why else would sex mysteriously decrease after an LTR is secured or baby born?

I agree with this in the most part. All one needs to do is look at how many women have sex. She ain't getting no orgasms from sucking on your dirty dick, bruising her knees, eating your disgusting semen, or deepthroating you to the point of nausea. None of that makes her horny or gives her any sexual pleasure in the slightest. From what I have seen in women, sex is nothing but a low-level replacement for affection. When a girl fucks just once, it is the oxytocin she is after more than the orgasm. Or self-validation. And when she fucks many times, sex is essentially nothing but an excuse to spend time with you.
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
I have had many red pill realizations over the last few years. Among them:

Teenage:

- That girls don't care about you being nice or being their friend.
- That a girl who says "I love you" today might disappear tomorrow and never speak to you again.
- That most relationships don't last forever even if both people love each other.

Early 20s

- That girls in Asian countries are better looking, slimmer and have nicer personas than British women. I got lucky discovering this one at an early age.
- That girls will cheat on their boyfriends if you talk to them in the right way and pretend not to judge them. Many will let you have sexual intercourse with them without any form of protection - and then happily call their boyfriend up while you are right next to them in bed.

Mid-Late 20s

- That the hottest girls often have the biggest mental issues. A significant proportion of 8s and 9s are batshit crazy and will cause you absolute misery if you form a relationship with them. Some will try to destroy your friendships, career and entire life.
- That most girls enjoy rough sex even if they never mention it.
- That girls are interested in more than just a man's looks. Knowing that there is a ton of stuff you can do to improve your lot was a big revelation for me.
- That Eastern Europe has highly feminine women too. And here was me thinking it was just Asia!
- That girls will talk to a guy even if he uses the silliest of pretexts to start a conversation. The Pet Shop comes to mind. Laugh
- That many married women will deliberately impregnate themselves with the sperm of a seemingly more alpha specimen than their husband (credit goes to Roissy for this one). This one was a huge shock to the system.

30s so far

- That being successful in business matters more than game.
- That banging random sluts from clubs eventually starts to get boring.
- That more girls have tried anal than I had thought. Even the more innocent-looking ones. All the more reason to mark your territory.

I look forward to more revelations over the next decade. It's interesting to watch your own perceptions gradually change in front of your eyes.

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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
My biggest red pill moment was back in my blue pill days, during high school, one of my best friends was a girl. Sometimes I would hang out with her and her friends and the way they would just talk shit constantly about other girls shocked me at first. Also one of the girls in the group was having sex with some other girls boyfriend that they all knew and my friend was providing the room where they would have sex basically every weekend. Also this same girl that was having sex with the girls boyfriend was also getting doubled teamed on the regular by two other guys I knew and to figure that 2-3 years ago this girl had a crush on me. That was my first of many red pill moments.
12-02-2015 01:01 PM
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
(12-02-2015 12:09 PM)dreambig Wrote:  
(12-02-2015 10:51 AM)RouteBackwards Wrote:  The biggest red pill I ever had to swallow, and this sounds trivial now that I think of it, but was realizing that most, if not all, women are sexual.

That is not to say that some women do not hold reservations about sex, and are more particular about who they sleep with (see: non-sluts), but all women at their cores are just as horny, if not more horny, then men.

If this helps your game mindset then go for it, but I honestly don't think this is true at all. Women can go without sex for months with barely any consequences to their daily life. Men have far greater T levels which leads to a much higher sex drive.

The whole "women are just as..." stuff is just 2nd wave feminism in disguise. It has led to guys stressing over whether the girl is satisfied or not. Sure, women are sexual beings, but for the most part they are considerably less sexual than men.

For women, sex is mostly just a means of getting what they want from us. Why else would sex mysteriously decrease after an LTR is secured or baby born?
Definitely, but to some level I think my point was hinging more on that when women do get sex, they are more open then we'd first assume. I guess it was hyperbole of me to say "just as," but my point is that most women, when they seek or are in a mode for sex, appreciate it in the same ways men do, and through my own experiences, I've had women who've engaged in sexual acts that I thought only I'd enjoy, but they also seemed equally interested in enjoying.

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