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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
@ poutsara: re your earlier post::: “I’m dating only you, and I want you to know that, and hope you feel the same” << I'm finding this line to almost always be the 100% guarantee she's banging someone else too. I can't stress this enough, as it's always proven true for me, anytime a girl makes a statement where they try to grab your undivided attention, then deliver information.. the exact opposite is true.

A lot of talk about hypergamy goes on here on the Forum, which distinguishes that a girl will make somewhat clean breaks between fucking the next guy (on a timeline let's say), but I call bullshit to that. There's a LOT more slutting going on than most expect, and from my experience it's increased notably since 2013.

Just use some basic psych. If a girl really likes you, you've been fucking her well, nearly ALL of them are going to want to send a "GN" text (or get one from you) unless the understanding is she's just a FB, or whatever, and a few random texts throughout the day, to provide emotional support. After all, girls are ultimately needy emotionally.

If any girl you're fucking ins't giving the usual random texts through the day, GN texts, Good morning texts (sometimes), no matter what she tells you, someone else is also involved with her. Face reality. Women have their smart phones implanted in their asses 24/7. And a single texts takes what? 2-20 seconds to fire off? Granted people get busy so this must be gauged on a case-by-case scenario, and you'd think with age they'd grow out of the emotional neediness. Well they don't. No nighttime texts? You're sharing that pussy whether you know it or not.
12-06-2015 09:28 PM
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
(12-06-2015 09:28 PM)Ingocnito Wrote:  @ poutsara: re your earlier post::: “I’m dating only you, and I want you to know that, and hope you feel the same” << I'm finding this line to almost always be the 100% guarantee she's banging someone else too. I can't stress this enough, as it's always proven true for me, anytime a girl makes a statement where they try to grab your undivided attention, then deliver information.. the exact opposite is true.

Word. My assumption over time became that you should assume she is getting it from all sides, so plan accordingly.

Quote:A lot of talk about hypergamy goes on here on the Forum, which distinguishes that a girl will make somewhat clean breaks between fucking the next guy (on a timeline let's say), but I call bullshit to that.

Yes again. Girls rarely make clean breaks. There is a lot of sloppy overlap between guys with random injections thrown in on the side.

Quote: There's a LOT more slutting going on than most expect, and from my experience it's increased notably since 2013.

Yeah, there is a huge amount of slutting going on! Which became a central thesis of my red pill understanding.

Quote:Just use some basic psych. If a girl really likes you, you've been fucking her well, nearly ALL of them are going to want to send a "GN" text (or get one from you) unless the understanding is she's just a FB, or whatever, and a few random texts throughout the day, to provide emotional support. After all, girls are ultimately needy emotionally.

Agree again. Related to this, from our side, the real difficulty for me in maintaining a soft harem in the past has been the expectation of emotional support, in the way of meaningless texts, phone calls, etc. The sex is the easy part.

For what it's worth, I'm out of the game for now. All of my above anecdotes are from 2013 or before. I have another good one to post when I get a chance that I forgot about.
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
A woman's ability to ghost after being well fucked was mentioned earlier in this thread. Just my speculation, but I wonder if this has something to do with her perception of you as a potential reliable boyfriend or not.

By banging her like she's never been banged before, you're showing her that you've got a lot of experience with other women and that she's replaceable. For some women it may be a turn on, but for others, it would signal that you're too experienced to have the wool pulled over your eyes.
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That and some of them just have their own issues and hangups. I've seen girls freak for no clear reason and run from relationships even when they don't have something else lined up and can't articulate a reason why.

Sometimes it's just an emotional reaction that they don't even understand themselves.
12-07-2015 08:32 AM
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
(12-07-2015 02:29 AM)poutsara Wrote:  
Quote:Just use some basic psych. If a girl really likes you, you've been fucking her well, nearly ALL of them are going to want to send a "GN" text (or get one from you) unless the understanding is she's just a FB, or whatever, and a few random texts throughout the day, to provide emotional support. After all, girls are ultimately needy emotionally.

Agree again. Related to this, from our side, the real difficulty for me in maintaining a soft harem in the past has been the expectation of emotional support, in the way of meaningless texts, phone calls, etc. The sex is the easy part.

For what it's worth, I'm out of the game for now. All of my above anecdotes are from 2013 or before. I have another good one to post when I get a chance that I forgot about.

The emotional support side is a tricky one when it comes to harem management. All my girls (4 of them) know I'm banging other girls, I've been open about it and have had two of them meet and had a threesome.
They know they are quite welcome to ask me questions about the other girls cos I have nothing to hide.

But my free time is my free time, they know this and I dont have to worry about the pointless texting and phone calls cos they know when they are out with me I'm focused on them and them alone. Having a good time and ensuring the are more than adequately fucked. I'll do the romantic shit like cuddle after sex, stoke hair (Insert disney shit here) blah blah blah and they know deep down that I care about them but I'm not emotionally available or invested.

The other week one of my girls had to cancel on me cos she had a wicked chest infection and head cold. It was my meal prep day the day before so I cooked up some soup and took it over for her the next day. She wouldnt let me bang (it was shark week) and even though she was pretty sick she was nice enough to play a solo on my meat flute even when she had a blocked nose. She asked if there was any medicinal properties to ingesting semen so it was all done in the name of science Banana

This seems to be enough emotional currency for them not to blow up my phone throughout the week with pointless "Hey what's going on?" texts and I get to keep on top of my own stuff.

I seem to have the balance right. For now.....
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
(12-07-2015 07:35 AM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  A woman's ability to ghost after being well fucked was mentioned earlier in this thread. Just my speculation, but I wonder if this has something to do with her perception of you as a potential reliable boyfriend or not.

By banging her like she's never been banged before, you're showing her that you've got a lot of experience with other women and that she's replaceable. For some women it may be a turn on, but for others, it would signal that you're too experienced to have the wool pulled over your eyes.

Can confirm this. Had a number of girls just fall off the radar after me smashing the back end out of them. Some have kind of crawled back cos they wanted more, but ultimately their desire for a boyfriend won out and they knew I wasnt offering that service.
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
(12-07-2015 07:21 PM)pialox Wrote:  
(12-07-2015 07:35 AM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  A woman's ability to ghost after being well fucked was mentioned earlier in this thread. Just my speculation, but I wonder if this has something to do with her perception of you as a potential reliable boyfriend or not.

By banging her like she's never been banged before, you're showing her that you've got a lot of experience with other women and that she's replaceable. For some women it may be a turn on, but for others, it would signal that you're too experienced to have the wool pulled over your eyes.

Can confirm this. Had a number of girls just fall off the radar after me smashing the back end out of them. Some have kind of crawled back cos they wanted more, but ultimately their desire for a boyfriend won out and they knew I wasnt offering that service.

Here here. Alpha fucks, beta bucks.
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
Realising every single piece of life advice I had been given by all of the people I thought I could trust was wrong.

All of it

4 year old me was a lot smarter than most of my peers and elders are today
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
Naw Niko, he's saying that some chicks probably with low self esteem are fucking terrified of men with options.
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Realizing that no one is above trolling. Not even the Lord and Savior himself, Jesus Christ

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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
That women say one thing, turn around and do just die opposite they just said.
Cant tell how often i´ve seen it.
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(12-08-2015 02:33 AM)Tipico Wrote:  That women say one thing, turn around and do just die opposite they just said.
Cant tell how often i´ve seen it.

Trust your eyes, not your ears. A lot of times what they say is to make getting away with what they do easier.
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(12-08-2015 01:58 AM)Hades Wrote:  Naw Niko, he's saying that some chicks probably with low self esteem are fucking terrified of men with options.

Right. I just meant, women buy wholeheartedly into the Alpha/Beta paradigm, and thanks to feminism they're scared of Alpha qualities. So, they may be excited by game, etc., they may have amazing sex with you on the first date, but then once the endorphins wear off, they start rethinking per their feminist conditioning which states Betas make better partners.
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
Knowing that even a claimed red-pill woman, is still a woman. (An ex of mine displayed impeccable LTR credentials until things didn't go her way, I lost frame and difficulties ensued).

This was the biggest cause for redirecting the path of my existence. I don't look back in regret; only look to the opportunities this has presented to me. I was at a clearly defined moment of choice; without this happening, my "beta" existence would have been predictable and painful. Ultimately unfulfilling.

The forms some women take, even pandering to your masculinity and switching to SJW agendas when it suits them. I have learnt to remain formless/uncaring to see their behaviour clearly.

The "traps" that this modern social media sets for men.

Eyes well and truly opened for over a year now.
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
Was in an LTR. Was going on a number of years, moved in together. All the usual "I love you" BS from her. I was always aloof about the whole thing.
Ended up living out of each others pockets. I was earning much more. Took over repayments on her car. Split up. She sold the car went off to Australia on the proceeds. $10,000. We were still in touch so I confronted her by email. She hit me with "that wasn't a loan" line.
Women have no compunction about letting men pay for stuff then usurping your material wealth.......
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
All women has a whore inside themselves, its like a wild beast inside them it's not a matter if they want it or not(because they all want it) but how she can get away with her actions. Throughout time through patriarchy that whore inside them was kept bounded and would never come out without facing serious consequences that could cost the woman life, so women was kept in line. Nowadays there is no such thing, not only there is no restraint, they don't care, and actively want to be whores. That's a tough pill to swallow that all women can be whores, that all women want to be whores.

Doesn't matter her background.

Doesn't matter how cute or how innocent she looks.

Doesn't matter if she's living under hard circumstances or living a comfortable life.

Doesn't matter if she goes to church or if she doesn't believe in God.

All women can be whores, and they all want to be whores, they aren't been forced into it, they want it, without constraints that's how they will behave. That's a hard pill to swallow, and many men refuse to see that.


Without the patriarchy and strong men in their lives, women are lost, and their dark side come out, without men leadership women are lost.

Edit: typo.
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The other end of this spectrum.. Without the love of mothers in a man's life.A man is lost.
Without strong men in a boys life. Men are lost.

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Another, newer one: Met a girl through social media who happens to suffer from the same chronic illness as myself. We hit it off and dated for about a month. Then the games began.

I honestly thought she was different because of the illness.. ie thought she would understand, etc.
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My biggest red pill I had to swallow -

The red pill/Truth is only available for those who seek and find it.

Feed them chicken bones.
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
This thread is starting to read like Nostradamus's Quatrains, just applied to women.

Much of what is happening now was predicted by Sr. members.. esp Roosh himself 2-3-4+ years ago.

Interesting to see it come full circle.
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(12-11-2015 12:14 AM)Ingocnito Wrote:  This thread is starting to read like Nostradamus's Quatrains, just applied to women.

Much of what is happening now was predicted by Sr. members.. esp Roosh himself 2-3-4+ years ago.

Interesting to see it come full circle.

2012, yo
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
That most people don't care about "The Truth."
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(12-11-2015 11:37 AM)Barbarian_Brad Wrote:  That most people don't care about "The Truth."



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(12-10-2015 11:40 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  Another, newer one: Met a girl through social media who happens to suffer from the same chronic illness as myself. We hit it off and dated for about a month. Then the games began.

I honestly thought she was different because of the illness.. ie thought she would understand, etc.

I thought exactly the same thing when I first started dating deaf girls. I thought they would be different, that they'd understand exactly what I go through, and that it would bring us "closer".

Instead, I found a disgusting incestuous cesspool of raging sluts who take 40 cocks in one year immediately after getting their cherry popped. To top it off, other deaf guys LTR up those same sluts only to get cheated on - their LTRs getting gangbanged on by the very same guys they regularly hang out and drink beers with at BBQs. (I've participated in more of those than I care to admit).
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(12-11-2015 11:54 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  
(12-10-2015 11:40 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  Another, newer one: Met a girl through social media who happens to suffer from the same chronic illness as myself. We hit it off and dated for about a month. Then the games began.

I honestly thought she was different because of the illness.. ie thought she would understand, etc.

I thought exactly the same thing when I first started dating deaf girls. I thought they would be different, that they'd understand exactly what I go through, and that it would bring us "closer".

Instead, I found a disgusting incestuous cesspool of raging sluts who take 40 cocks in one year immediately after getting their cherry popped. To top it off, other deaf guys LTR up those same sluts only to get cheated on - their LTRs getting gangbanged on by the very same guys they regularly hang out and drink beers with at BBQs. (I've participated in more of those than I care to admit).


Yeesh. Funny story: I dated a ASL interpreter and she was an actual whore (ex stripper)
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