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Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
My top three:

-my GF of 3.5 years telling me it was over a few months after she started law school (I was 23 at the time, 33 now),

- a girl I had a fling with at my first office job getting engaged to the guy she told me she had broken up with, and me finding out when she announced it at work (I was 25).

- my GF of just over a year getting pregnant, putting off telling me, then blowing up screaming that it was my fault and running off for an abortion, having made it clear I had no input in her choice whatsoever (I was 27).


There have been many others before and since, but after #3 nothing has really phased me. Completely steeled, desensitized to women's bullshit.
11-28-2015 04:07 PM
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RE: biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
That girls don't want nice guys who respect them.

Once I really internalized that things became easier.
11-28-2015 04:10 PM
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RE: biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
(11-28-2015 04:10 PM)The Ligurian Wrote:  That girls don't want nice guys who respect them.

Once I really internalized that things became easier.

well that's THE red pill we all need deal with eventually, what I mean is was there one specific incident that irreversibly changed your perception.
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RE: biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
Biggest red pill moment ever:

Playing captain save a ho for 4 years only to have her walk out and leave me with the baby. Then die. There's no more fooling yourself after that.
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RE: biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
(11-28-2015 04:17 PM)odesseus Wrote:  Biggest red pill moment ever:

Playing captain save a ho for 4 years only to have her walk out and leave me with the baby. Then die. There's no more fooling yourself after that.

Jesus. Thank you for sharing, and I really mean that.
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RE: biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
There is no unconditional love with women. It's only conditional.

The closet thing to unconditional love is between a mother and her children.
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RE: biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
In high school, 10th grade, still a virgin.

A cute girl said I was cute in class that day, and I almost immediately caught feelings for her.

Thereafter she would have me write her a different love letter every day, I bought her chocolates and and bunch of teddy bears and bullshit on Valentine's Day. All the girls in class were like "Awwwwwwwww". Note that I had not gotten so much as a make out at this point.

I went on to find out she got gangbanged by a bunch of senior black dudes over the summer. Fall of 11th grade I came back a different man.
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RE: biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
I posted this in another thread ...

Quote:A year ago around this time.

Girlfriend of two years who i loved to death ... everything's going well. She was head over heels in love with me at least that's how she acted. We were " The Perfect Couple" according to everyone around us.

Went back to Ethiopia for vacation for 5 weeks and told her i was breaking up with her. My plan was to prank her and propose to her when i came back.Was sort of surprised when she took it very well. Even met her super busy dad and asked him for his daughters hand in marriage while back home.

I come back and find out she got tag teamed by two D-2 Basketball players. (Always told me how much she hated athletes and how arrogant they are). She also had 2 different "boyfriends" besides those guys during that time frame.

All in all banged 4 guys (that i know of) in 5 weeks. When i confronted her in tears she tells me to " stop being emotional and take it like a man!" and how it's my fault. Same girl who a mere 3 months earlier told me that when she dies she wants to get buried in the same casket as me.

Had murder/suicide fantasies for almost half a year afterwards. The only thing that held me back was the love for my father and the relatable similar experiences i read on this forum.

Biggest lesson was the realization of how quickly women move on. They could swear undying love for you today and be as cruel as if they've never known you a week later all depending on how they feel at the moment. Also the fact there is no such thing as an "innocent girl". There are a lot of naive & innocent guys but the most innocent girl you meet will be more Red Pill than your average RVF member.
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
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Be careful. The opposite is true. I've had girls come seeking me after they married into money, many years later after we split. They had kids too. And after I split on a girl and called her out on hiding her boyfriend back home, she still online stalks me and tries to get my attention when she's in the country.

I'm waiting for the girl that got married a handful of months after dumping me to beg for my attention again. Should probably start a countdown clock. Every time, i think their husband is a chump.

Will i ever be the chump?

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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
When I found out a huge cause of suicide in the military is stupid ass girlfriend/wife behavior pushing guys to hang or eat a bullet. The public hears it is ptsd when in reality it is mostly dumb bitches fucking their guys over.
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
(11-28-2015 04:47 PM)rpg Wrote:  When I found out a huge cause of suicide in the military is stupid ass girlfriend/wife behavior pushing guys to hang or eat a bullet. The public hears it is ptsd when in reality it is mostly dumb bitches fucking their guys over.


Could you elaborate more? Any interesting stories?
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
Three instances:

1. My trying to get back my ex-girlfriend in the shitty "romcom" way leading to a near stalking charge (I was 15 or 16 at the time)

2. Becoming a Christian, and realizing how fucked up the church is.

3. I'm talking to some girl at a party:

Her: I kind of have a boyfriend
Me: Who cares?
(I go to the bathroom, while I'm inside)
Her: Don't tell (boyfriend's name).

That was only a few months ago.

If you're not fucking her, someone else is.
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(11-28-2015 05:07 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  
(11-28-2015 04:47 PM)rpg Wrote:  When I found out a huge cause of suicide in the military is stupid ass girlfriend/wife behavior pushing guys to hang or eat a bullet. The public hears it is ptsd when in reality it is mostly dumb bitches fucking their guys over.


Could you elaborate more? Any interesting stories?

Read Jarhead, by Anthony Swofford. I'm going off memory, but he tells a story about a Marine in another company getting a video from home. In the middle of it, his wife is fucking his neighbor. The Marine is then put on suicide watch.

If you're not fucking her, someone else is.
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(11-28-2015 05:26 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  Read Jarhead, by Anthony Swofford. I'm going off memory, but he tells a story about a Marine in another company getting a video from home. In the middle of it, his wife is fucking his neighbor. The Marine is then put on suicide watch.

Yeesh. Who sent the video, the wife?
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
Nowadays, you can fuck a girl for hours, make her squirt and, in short, give her fantastic sex and she still has the capacity to ghost or flake.

They just have so many options and dicks are dispensable resources to western women.

Related - flaking is the norm.

This was not the case in the 90s when I first started dating.

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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
Realizing how much bullshit there is that we are taught to believe in
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(11-28-2015 05:40 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  Yeesh. Who sent the video, the wife?

Yeah, the wife. I should add that the porn clip was in the middle of a Vietnam War movie.

If you're not fucking her, someone else is.
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(11-28-2015 05:40 PM)robreke Wrote:  Nowadays, you can fuck a girl for hours, make her squirt and, in short, give her fantastic sex and she still has the capacity to ghost or flake.

They just have so many options and dicks are dispensable resources to western women.

Related - flaking is the norm.

This was not the case in the 90s when I first started dating.

I agree. Do you think it's because our culture has normalized hypergamy? ie we no longer shame women for being sluts or whores
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RE: Biggest red pill you ever had to swallow?
Related to that: a guy I deployed with came home to find the wife pregnant.
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Quote:A year ago around this time.
Went back to Ethiopia for vacation for 5 weeks and told her i was breaking up with her. My plan was to prank her and propose to her when i came back.Was sort of surprised when she took it very well. Even met her super busy dad and asked him for his daughters hand in marriage while back home.

This was a prank? You threw your girl friend away. Don't blame her for fucking those men, as she was on the rebound emotionally.
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(11-28-2015 06:52 PM)puckerman Wrote:  
Quote:A year ago around this time.
Went back to Ethiopia for vacation for 5 weeks and told her i was breaking up with her. My plan was to prank her and propose to her when i came back.Was sort of surprised when she took it very well. Even met her super busy dad and asked him for his daughters hand in marriage while back home.

This was a prank? You threw your girl friend away. Don't blame her for fucking those men, as she was on the rebound emotionally.

I half agree. It was probably not a good idea as a "prank", but then for her to fuck four guys in five weeks really proves she's not wife material, heartbreak notwithstanding.
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My red pill moment was when I got a phone call telling me that I didn't have to come to a seminar because they had gotten "complaints" about me at the seminar the year before. It was the biggest shock of my life, and I still have no idea who said what.
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(11-28-2015 06:54 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  I half agree. It was probably not a good idea as a "prank", but then for her to fuck four guys in five weeks really proves she's not wife material, heartbreak notwithstanding.

I've seen a lot of girls go on a dick rampage after a guy breaks their heart that deep into a relationship where they were not expecting it. It's pretty common.

It's probably some kind of defensive mechanism for some because I think at that point they probably lost all trust for men and try to desensitized correlations between sex and love. A lot of us have been beneficiaries of these escapades from girls.
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(11-28-2015 07:26 PM)The Wire Wrote:  
(11-28-2015 06:54 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  I half agree. It was probably not a good idea as a "prank", but then for her to fuck four guys in five weeks really proves she's not wife material, heartbreak notwithstanding.

I've seen a lot of girls go on a dick rampage after a guy breaks their heart that deep into a relationship where they were not expecting it. It's pretty common.

It's probably some kind of defensive mechanism for some because I think at that point they probably lost all trust for men and try to desensitized correlations between sex and love. A lot of us have been beneficiaries of these escapades from girls.

Speaks to the fragility of female nature, no? She's willing to jeopardize her entire future and genetic lineage based on a bad experience with one man.. Maybe they aren't cut out for dating ie. making important choices.
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(11-28-2015 07:26 PM)The Wire Wrote:  
(11-28-2015 06:54 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  I half agree. It was probably not a good idea as a "prank", but then for her to fuck four guys in five weeks really proves she's not wife material, heartbreak notwithstanding.

I've seen a lot of girls go on a dick rampage after a guy breaks their heart that deep into a relationship where they were not expecting it. It's pretty common.

It's probably some kind of defensive mechanism for some because I think at that point they probably lost all trust for men and try to desensitized correlations between sex and love. A lot of us have been beneficiaries of these escapades from girls.


Yeah man, you stuck our hand in the fire and was surprised it got burned. She may have made an amazing wife, but your actions prove that you weren't ready for that. Her rebound carousel was not classy, but it's not unexpected given the circumstances. Don't blame her, just accept that you got what you wanted. I've been there and have sabotaged some relationships that were great simply because I wanted to chase pussy. I've pushed females away through my actions because subconsciously I knew I didn't want a serious long term relationship. The biggest red pill to take away from that is to not deny yourself what you truly want.

My biggest red pill? Not sure, they come as little pieces that fit into the bigger puzzle. The biggest one probably came when I gave this smokeshow I was seeing an STD. She never accused me or even brought it up to me, made me realize the innocent church going 9 I was semi-dating was also seeing other dudes, otherwise she would have called me out immediately.

I continued to see her for months after. That pussy was intoxicating. But from that day when I found the antibiotics in her purse, the same I was prescribed a few weeks earlier, without as much as peep or even a slight attitude change, I knew where I stood and I knew what she was capable of.

I swore up and down that she was different, that she was the girl who could clean, cook, bring to church, meet the parents, all while have mindblowing limitless sex.

The day I found the antibiotics, my gut turned in circles. I realized it was all a complete front. I gave her an STD, the only reason she wouldn't bring it up is because she didn't know who she got it from. Her image of purity and innocence was shattered. I never looked at her the same again. I continued to fuck her, but then realized all the little red flags I overlooked before.

Turns out the girl was a complete narcissist. She gave zero shits about anything except herself and what she wanted in that moment in her life. Only After my eyes were opened did I see all the pieces fit together.

Shit was hard to take even with my experience and knowledge of females. She completely had me fooled. I was honestly thinking of wifing that "pure" innocent girl

I can only imagine how many hearts she will end up clinching life from before she is washed up and wondering why her only friend is some stray cat. Like I said it was hard for me to take, and Im no saint when it comes to relationships. I have no doubt that girl is going to drive some beta to suicide someday.

I met the female image of myself, and she won. That's the biggest rep pill I've had to swallow.

God'll prolly have me on some real strict shit
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