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Inco was bought up by the Brazilian conglomerate Vale and I think Tata bought some of Quebec shares from Labrador Iron Mines, both companies had financial problems.

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(02-22-2016 11:38 PM)MrRoundtree Wrote:  Inco was bought up by the Brazilian conglomerate Vale

Yes and Vale was a lot more brutal on the local labour force than Inco ever was. The strike that Vale took lasted a long time and essentially broke the union's back, which isn't always a bad thing. It worked when Reagan did it to the air traffic controllers and it can be a very appropriate measure, when the union deserves it. But those miners didn't deserve it and the foreign owners just didn't give a fuck.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...h-deficits

Trudeau Drops Campaign Promises and Goes All In With Deficits

Quote:With falling oil prices eroding Canada’s revenue base, newly elected Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is fully embracing deficits, with his finance minister hinting Monday the country will run a deficit of about C$30 billion ($22 billion) in the fiscal year that starts April 1.

It’s one of the biggest fiscal swings in the country’s history that, in just four months since the Oct. 19 election, has cut loose all the fiscal anchors Trudeau pledged to abide by even as he runs deficits. The government’s bet is that appetite for more infrastructure spending and a post-election political honeymoon will trump criticism over borrowing and unmet campaign promises.

“It looks like the Liberals want to front load as much bad news as possible in the hope when the election occurs in four years things will be better,” said Nik Nanos, an Ottawa-based pollster with Nanos Research Group.

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(02-23-2016 09:48 AM)Samseau Wrote:  There is nothing more a liberal likes to do than spend other people's money!

And break campaign promises. He's not going to legalize weed either. I wonder when we'll see the pot-heads organize a demonstration at Parliament Hill in Ottawa? Oh right... they'll just stay on the couch, curse Troolander's name, and puff, puff, pass. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm... maybe Troolander and his handler Butts thought of that on the campaign trail, eh? That was a pretty tricky little lie now wasn't it? Fuck I hate liberals.

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(02-23-2016 09:57 AM)Ghost Tiger Wrote:  
(02-23-2016 09:48 AM)Samseau Wrote:  There is nothing more a liberal likes to do than spend other people's money!

And break campaign promises. He's not going to legalize weed either. I wonder when we'll see the pot-heads organize a demonstration at Parliament Hill in Ottawa? Oh right... they'll just stay on the couch, curse Troolander's name, and puff, puff, pass. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm... maybe Troolander and his handler Butts thought of that on the campaign trail, eh? That was a pretty tricky little lie now wasn't it? Fuck I hate liberals.

This is the supreme political stereotype. Run on campaign promises, then renege on all of them once in office.

I am currently crossing my fingers for emperor trump working on at least political issue with Canada while Trudeau is in office.

Chretien, Martin and Harper all seemed like competent negotiators that would garner respect. Trudeau demanding concessions from the US? Trump would slap him down and Hillary would be ass raping him with a strap on.

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Didn't Harper negotiate something like 70 trade deals?

That type of experience will teach a man a thing or two. Trudeau will indeed be raked through the coals at first opportunity.
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(02-23-2016 10:07 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-23...and-silver

When the shit hits the fan in the gold market & there is finally a reckoning for the imaginary gold futures out there (for every ounce of gold actually in existence in the world, there are about 300 contracts promising to deliver an ounce of gold) those companies that actually store and have possession of/access to physical gold will be the ones left standing. So paying a bit of interest to keep their hands on your physical gold makes a bit of sense, particularly if they plan to do some funny business and try to confiscate it somehow or buy it from you.

Little known fact, Canada sold around 43% of its physical gold reserves in December 2015 and January 2016. Not sure this is a wise policy. Harper started this trend during the last financial crisis and sold a huge chunk of it (which I opposed back then). Trudeau doesn't seem all that attached to what little is left (which I also think is crazy).

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(02-23-2016 10:19 PM)DannyAlberta Wrote:  
(02-23-2016 10:07 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-23...and-silver

When the shit hits the fan in the gold market & there is finally a reckoning for the imaginary gold futures out there (for every ounce of gold actually in existence in the world, there are about 300 contracts promising to deliver an ounce of gold) those companies that actually store and have possession of/access to physical gold will be the ones left standing. So paying a bit of interest to keep their hands on your physical gold makes a bit of sense, particularly if they plan to do some funny business and try to confiscate it somehow or buy it from you.

Little known fact, Canada sold around 43% of its physical gold reserves in December 2015 and January 2016. Not sure this is a wise policy. Harper started this trend during the last financial crisis and sold a huge chunk of it (which I opposed back then). Trudeau doesn't seem all that attached to what little is left (which I also think is crazy).

Canada should have state control over its in ground gold reserves at this point, or be taking royalties of physical gold and silver that Canadian mines produce. ie. You guys mine 10 ounces, you send 1 ounce to the government reserve.

Instead, it taxes mining profits, not extraction (dumb) and has crazy mining tax credits that offset taxes owed anyway.

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(02-23-2016 10:19 PM)DannyAlberta Wrote:  Little known fact, Canada sold around 43% of its physical gold reserves in December 2015 and January 2016. Not sure this is a wise policy. Harper started this trend during the last financial crisis and sold a huge chunk of it (which I opposed back then). Trudeau doesn't seem all that attached to what little is left (which I also think is crazy).

If it makes you feel any better, Croatia sold all of its gold (15 tons - which would be equivalent to 450 tons in terms of Canadian economy) in 2005 when the price was very low.

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(02-22-2016 10:30 PM)Ghost Tiger Wrote:  
(02-22-2016 10:20 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  The mining names were Noranda, Falconbridge, Inco, Placer Dome all Canadian companies running big mines that all went to shit between 2000 and 2006. They either folded or were bought out.

I work as a contractor in private sector strike security and I worked as an investigator for Inco during a big strike in 2002. I was locked down with the managers on a site in Sudbury and I overheard them talking about how the company allowed negotiations to fall apart and result in strike action on purpose so that the price of nickel would rise on the global market. That price rise was bought at the expense of the miners who were out on the picket lines. You are bang on about the corruption in Canadian business and the stunning incompetence of the bureaucrats. I can't wait for Trump to become President and start kicking ass. Hopefully it will have a ripple effect up here. Ideally, he will just annex English Canada. I want to live in America!

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(02-24-2016 01:22 PM)Kaii Wrote:  
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(02-22-2016 10:20 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  The mining names were Noranda, Falconbridge, Inco, Placer Dome all Canadian companies running big mines that all went to shit between 2000 and 2006. They either folded or were bought out.

I work as a contractor in private sector strike security and I worked as an investigator for Inco during a big strike in 2002. I was locked down with the managers on a site in Sudbury and I overheard them talking about how the company allowed negotiations to fall apart and result in strike action on purpose so that the price of nickel would rise on the global market. That price rise was bought at the expense of the miners who were out on the picket lines. You are bang on about the corruption in Canadian business and the stunning incompetence of the bureaucrats. I can't wait for Trump to become President and start kicking ass. Hopefully it will have a ripple effect up here. Ideally, he will just annex English Canada. I want to live in America!

We would welcome our Canadian brethren here in the states!

I agree, I would like to do some sort of prisoner exchange after Trump is elected. America will take most of the population of Alberta and other Canadian conservatives in exchange for american SJW hippies that want to leave because they are too triggered.

All you have to do is find a citizen from the other country at the border and swap passports.

When looked back upon in history the exodus will be referred to as the "trail of beers"

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(02-24-2016 02:25 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
(02-24-2016 01:22 PM)Kaii Wrote:  
(02-22-2016 10:30 PM)Ghost Tiger Wrote:  
(02-22-2016 10:20 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  The mining names were Noranda, Falconbridge, Inco, Placer Dome all Canadian companies running big mines that all went to shit between 2000 and 2006. They either folded or were bought out.

I work as a contractor in private sector strike security and I worked as an investigator for Inco during a big strike in 2002. I was locked down with the managers on a site in Sudbury and I overheard them talking about how the company allowed negotiations to fall apart and result in strike action on purpose so that the price of nickel would rise on the global market. That price rise was bought at the expense of the miners who were out on the picket lines. You are bang on about the corruption in Canadian business and the stunning incompetence of the bureaucrats. I can't wait for Trump to become President and start kicking ass. Hopefully it will have a ripple effect up here. Ideally, he will just annex English Canada. I want to live in America!

We would welcome our Canadian brethren here in the states!

I agree, I would like to do some sort of prisoner exchange after Trump is elected. America will take most of the population of Alberta and other Canadian conservatives in exchange for american SJW hippies that want to leave because they are too triggered.

All you have to do is find a citizen from the other country at the border and swap passports.

When looked back upon in history the exodus will be referred to as the "trail of beers"

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(02-24-2016 02:25 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  I agree, I would like to do some sort of prisoner exchange after Trump is elected. America will take most of the population of Alberta and other Canadian conservatives in exchange for american SJW hippies that want to leave because they are too triggered.

All you have to do is find a citizen from the other country at the border and swap passports.

When looked back upon in history the exodus will be referred to as the "trail of beers"

You know how they got the Canadians in WWI to take Vimy Ridge in one day despite the Germans having the tactical advantage of high ground?

They told them there was a beer store on the other side.

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(Today 03:51 PM)Cosmonaut Wrote:
couldnt agree with this more. as a canadian, its actually easier for me to move to ANY country in europe than it is the united states. To them (unless im an engineer, doctor, etc) im viewed "equally" as someone from madagascar, bangladesh, or guatemala. common sense has been lost on immigration policy in basically every western nation

A move from Canada to US is easy, i have detailed it here. Its just not advertised and there is significant brainwashing in CANADIAN colleges to halt the brain drain south. Students going to Ontario universities for instance are dumb enough to believe Americans are fare worse of. A simple search in salaries and taxes in the desired field and city would be enough to change their mind, unfortunately students are only taught to obey.

I know a guy living in Canada who refuses to the United States even though he's been asked by relatives who currently live here to do so because he's afraid he's gonna get killed in a mass shooting. He constantly takes potshots at the United States in the same way some fedora wearing neckbeard with his gut hanging out his sweaty T-shirt will hate on the star quarterback.

This guy is also a Bernie fan and complains about the GOP, he actually pays more attention to US politics then Canadian politics. He's also over weight, whiny, and recently put up a Facebook status complaining about a phone call where his dad was telling him about how embarrassed he is that he's 31 and still doesn't have a girlfriend. His parents tried to straight up set him up with a fob Vietnamese girl (he's Vietnamese himself) and he sabotaged himself by contacting her and talking about he's "not a great catch" and how "she could do so much better".

I used to be this guy. I consumed a lot of news in high school and college and was under the impression that the US was some sort of wild west crime haven where people cannot afford healthcare while dead bodies stack up outside of hospital doors. I thought the police ran around arbitrarily clubbing and shooting people. I had zero desire to go to the US, hated it and didn't even go for my first time until after I had graduated college.

I had the chance to travel around the rural midwest and soon came to the realization that America was cheaper, free-er and nicer than Canada. Opportunities were endless, consumer choice is mind boggling and the infrastructure is fantastic compared to the great white north. That and the women were friendly, slutty and easy to game.

I felt like I had been lied to about America by my Canadian upbringing. Sitting in a nice clean burger joint, drinking a $2 beer in peace without being accosted by drunken aboriginals, aggressive cockblockers or bitches looking for free drinks I made it my mission to move to the US permanently. 10 years later I have succeeded.

I regularly shock americans with stories of the violence I witnessed and terrible policing in canada along with ridiculous healthcare. When I used to live in an SJW town I would run into gays and hippies that would find out I was Canadian and say "oooh man, I would love to move there! Don't you miss it?" and I say "no, you can take my place. I moved here on purpose" and they gasp in horror.

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(02-24-2016 04:25 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  I had the chance to travel around the rural midwest and soon came to the realization that America was cheaper, free-er and nicer than Canada. Opportunities were endless, consumer choice is mind boggling and the infrastructure is fantastic compared to the great white north. That and the women were friendly, slutty and easy to game.

I felt like I had been lied to about America by my Canadian upbringing. Sitting in a nice clean burger joint, drinking a $2 beer in peace without being accosted by drunken aboriginals, aggressive cockblockers or bitches looking for free drinks I made it my mission to move to the US permanently. 10 years later I have succeeded.

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It is true that Canada actively puts our propaganda about the USA. I agree it is brain drain fears as Canada does not want to end up like South Africa or something where literally nearly all of your top and brightest flee for Canada and UK. It still happens though.

I would not paint it 100% in rose glasses though. The USA has its warts (as does Canada) and it really depends on your life goals and where you sit in your life as to what can offer you more. USA is great to hustle, find opportunities, build yourself up as a man.

Raising a family there is a joke vs here. Education in the USA is crap and sending your kids to a even half decent private school will cost you rape money. In Canada you can put your kids in a IB school for free, many public systems offer highly regarded global IB system but in America that shit costs you $12-15K a year per child. American life can give you a much better lifestyle for your family. Spacious big home for cheap in nice suburbs for example. But a lot of trades off such as education make it a tough call to balance. The best thing that would come out of rising kids in America is the dual citizenship which means they can exploit both countries for their own gains.

The big "move" now is Canadians going down south for University. I have no idea why as the costs are rape, and the quality is lower in USA colleges (they curve grades rampantly down there). But USA enrollments from Canadians is growing each year. For many schools the threshold of over 50% of graduating cohorts applying to USA schools was passed in the last year or two.

For me on a personal level cutting my teeth in America as young professional would be ideal. More hustle and more opportunities but I would have to mull if I would want to raise a family there or in Canada (or in the West in general).

When I spent my time in the USA it was a rush of activity and energy of people hustling but also lifestyle trappings that made it far to easy to get fat. The water has crisco in it or some shit because even eating the same foods down there as I would eat here I still get soft in America. I can't really explain it but this is something that happens to all the folks I know who have moved down there.

You pick your poison. I love American $2 beers but I also like how a 1L of water in Canada can cost me $1 (in the USA its like $3). In a perfect world I would probably live in the Detroit Metro and drive back into Canada when I feel like it. For pure lifestyle I would want to live in Cali due to the weather but I hear its a dump there and taxed and regulated more than Canada.
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(02-24-2016 10:42 PM)kosko Wrote:  The big "move" now is Canadians going down south for University. I have no idea why as the costs are rape, and the quality is lower in USA colleges (they curve grades rampantly down there). But USA enrollments from Canadians is growing each year. For many schools the threshold of over 50% of graduating cohorts applying to USA schools was passed in the last year or two.

It's because big city spots in Canada are being sold to foreigners for big $$$

I have friends who go to graduate schools in the states because the few spots here in Canada were taken by higher paying out of country students, leading to them not being accepted by their preferred local school.

The smart ones went to Europe for free graduate schooling (Oslo, Sweden and a few in Germany)
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I think that you'll soon see a larger exodus of Canadian talent heading south in the next few years as our economy gets uglier. We just rode a ten year commodity super-cycle where, basically anyone in the country who wanted to excel in their chosen field (or just cash in on the boom) just had to move to Alberta, that's pretty much done now. Pre-2004, my friends and relatives who bragged about making big coin were English teachers in Asia and health care professionals in the US. There's a lot of people in Canada right now in the 25-40 age range who don't remember what it used to be like, which is the historical norm, when our country was a cheap source of professional labour for the US.

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I worry about Canada and the new generation of hard left that will come to power-positions more and more on from now.

Well, why go far, yesterday on Facebook I saw a prime example of it.

There is a girl I knew through a school trip 5 years ago, she was studying criminology at the time, and sounded normal. I haven't even seen her since 2012, but I had her on FB. Over the last few years she's been massively SJW-radicalized, and switched her major to law and policy.

Yesterday, she posted a screenshot of her new job... "Policy Advisor to Ontario Public Service".
The same person who can't fuck off about "Why we need feminism", "Rape Culture" and blamed Paris attacks on "White people oppressing people of colour for many decades and not valuing their lives as much" (and she IS white)....yet was completely radio silence about Cologne.

That profile of person will be making policy advise to the already awful Ontario Public Service. And a lot more of her like on the way to take up such positions....
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(02-25-2016 08:05 AM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  Yesterday, she posted a screenshot of her new job... "Policy Advisor to Ontario Public Service".

I worked for the Ontario Public Service (OPS) for 3 years as a security advisor. I know exactly what kind of job your friend has been given. I was a victim of the Pax Dickinson effect perpetrated by "Policy Advisors" when I got fired. Your friend is way behind enemy lines now. She is one of them. Best to forget about her. You cannot save her now. The infection is too far advanced. She is lost.

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(02-25-2016 04:47 AM)scotian Wrote:  I think that you'll soon see a larger exodus of Canadian talent heading south in the next few years as our economy gets uglier. We just rode a ten year commodity super-cycle where, basically anyone in the country who wanted to excel in their chosen field (or just cash in on the boom) just had to move to Alberta, that's pretty much done now. Pre-2004, my friends and relatives who bragged about making big coin were English teachers in Asia and health care professionals in the US. There's a lot of people in Canada right now in the 25-40 age range who don't remember what it used to be like, which is the historical norm, when our country was a cheap source of professional labour for the US.

Here in BC we have been able to ride the current storm pretty well. From Vancouver Board of Trade meetings, I get that its mostly due to how diverse the employment sector is in BC. During the whole Alberta oil boom from 2004 onward, BC was still in the early stages of recovery after some 10 years of NDP. They were decimated early in 2000's but people were wary and knew that small business and self employment was the only way to survive such fucked up provincial policy.

We are now sitting with a very entrepreneurial mindset and a lot of people in their prime (40-60) are building great businesses and are secured with homes that make them paper multi millionaires. Almost every person I know over 40 is a millionaire, this gives them an amazing confidence when it comes to taking risk in business.

If the Liberals manage to hold on here (which is likely, as we are watching Alberta closely) then I think we can expect things to continue on this path. Clark wants to push things through, and I feel that its nearly breaking point now where she will start to force things through. She appeased a lot of people by carving out a massive piece of the north coast and the Great Beat Rain forest, which I backed 100%.

I am ever an optimist, but I think things look good for BC based on facts.
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