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(02-14-2017 10:35 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
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(02-14-2017 09:03 AM)komatiite Wrote:  Kosko who are you leaning towards?

None. They all suck.

Give me an option of bad options and I won't pick any. Politics like women to me, if she ain't hot I ain't down. I don't settle for bad pussy like I don't settle for bad policies.

The Con field is like a bar full of fatties. Don't just fuck fatties because they are on "your team". In Canada more than ever you need to be an Independent. All parties want Canada as a socialist hellhole, don't let them try to tell you otherwise. For that reason I don't align with any team. A true admission is that I have never been compelled by a canidate nationally in my life. All have been fatties that I don't want to fuck with.

Could be a good time for the reform party to come back to life in one shape or another.

I think the sentiment that led to the creation of the reform party was similar to what we have now, and they did well, despite having a weirdo for their party leader. Put 'a people's champion' with a ball sack in front of that party and something might happen. Rob Ford would have been ideal, but alas RIP. If not a rob ford type I'd like to see a conservative that is immune to to being white and cucked. Canada has plenty of first generation black businessmen from the UK or Caribbean with minor celebrity status that would not dance around with being nice to trannies, or welfare handouts.

I think its time for Canada's first black prime minister, a conservative one.

Which ones did you have in mind? Also, not sure if now would be a good time to split the right, that's what kept the Libs in power in the 90s and also saw the NDP win in Alberta.

I'm ready to help Scheer put Trudeau back in the cuckshed where he belongs. HSLD
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I wasn't sure where to put this, but I was at the record sale this past weekend and came across an interesting 45. Being too young to know what this was I bought it and gave it a spin:





There's a Don Imus spoof of this but it's not on youtube, guess I'll need to upload it.

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(02-14-2017 10:58 AM)scotian Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 10:35 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 09:47 AM)kosko Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 09:03 AM)komatiite Wrote:  Kosko who are you leaning towards?

None. They all suck.

Give me an option of bad options and I won't pick any. Politics like women to me, if she ain't hot I ain't down. I don't settle for bad pussy like I don't settle for bad policies.

The Con field is like a bar full of fatties. Don't just fuck fatties because they are on "your team". In Canada more than ever you need to be an Independent. All parties want Canada as a socialist hellhole, don't let them try to tell you otherwise. For that reason I don't align with any team. A true admission is that I have never been compelled by a canidate nationally in my life. All have been fatties that I don't want to fuck with.

Could be a good time for the reform party to come back to life in one shape or another.

I think the sentiment that led to the creation of the reform party was similar to what we have now, and they did well, despite having a weirdo for their party leader. Put 'a people's champion' with a ball sack in front of that party and something might happen. Rob Ford would have been ideal, but alas RIP. If not a rob ford type I'd like to see a conservative that is immune to to being white and cucked. Canada has plenty of first generation black businessmen from the UK or Caribbean with minor celebrity status that would not dance around with being nice to trannies, or welfare handouts.

I think its time for Canada's first black prime minister, a conservative one.

Which ones did you have in mind? Also, not sure if now would be a good time to split the right, that's what kept the Libs in power in the 90s and also saw the NDP win in Alberta.

Can we get Michael Lee Chin? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Lee-Chin

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There should be minories in the pipeline in the GTA if the Cons are smart. Lots of Asian, South Asian, Nigerians, Jamaicans who have Conservative views. Any SME business owner in Canada is a conservative by default. But they got low patience foe these cuckservtives who talk "low tax and no spend" but all do the same by pouring gas onto the books by cutting of revenues and gashing spending while then looking for massive debt to fill the hole.

The Black vote in Canada is diluted. I don't know if there is a angle riding where Black Canadians make up a majority. You can find ridings in Canada that are mostly Auth Asian and Chinese but for Black Canadians they are much more spread around.

South Asians for the Liberals have made a very powerful block in BC, I am surprised Chinese Canadians have not tried to do the same
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(02-14-2017 12:41 PM)kosko Wrote:  There should be minories in the pipeline in the GTA if the Cons are smart. Lots of Asian, South Asian, Nigerians, Jamaicans who have Conservative views. Any SME business owner in Canada is a conservative by default. But they got low patience foe these cuckservtives who talk "low tax and no spend" but all do the same by pouring gas onto the books by cutting of revenues and gashing spending while then looking for massive debt to fill the hole.

The Black vote in Canada is diluted. I don't know if there is a angle riding where Black Canadians make up a majority. You can find ridings in Canada that are mostly Auth Asian and Chinese but for Black Canadians they are much more spread around.

South Asians for the Liberals have made a very powerful block in BC, I am surprised Chinese Canadians have not tried to do the same

Do you think Canada would vote along racial lines? This hatian became the mayor of mattawa and national director of the PC party in the 70s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmin_Monestime

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(02-14-2017 01:46 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 12:41 PM)kosko Wrote:  There should be minories in the pipeline in the GTA if the Cons are smart. Lots of Asian, South Asian, Nigerians, Jamaicans who have Conservative views. Any SME business owner in Canada is a conservative by default. But they got low patience foe these cuckservtives who talk "low tax and no spend" but all do the same by pouring gas onto the books by cutting of revenues and gashing spending while then looking for massive debt to fill the hole.

The Black vote in Canada is diluted. I don't know if there is a angle riding where Black Canadians make up a majority. You can find ridings in Canada that are mostly Auth Asian and Chinese but for Black Canadians they are much more spread around.

South Asians for the Liberals have made a very powerful block in BC, I am surprised Chinese Canadians have not tried to do the same

Do you think Canada would vote along racial lines? This hatian became the mayor of mattawa and national director of the PC party in the 70s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmin_Monestime

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PS, for forum posterity, his granddaughters are an amazing result of french canadian and hatian breeding...the one in the red...

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For all your (mostly legitimate) criticism of Mike Harris, he was still better than Bob Rae and the NDP. And when Harris won, he didn't just defeat Rae, his greater challenge came from Lyn McLeod of the Liberals. McLeod would have been the exact same disaster that Wynne is currently... a dumb cunt messing about at being a politician and burning the province down while she cackled (also exactly like Rachel Notley). Now, you can blame Mike Harris for Dalton McGuinty, but the blame for Wynne lies on McGuinty and Hudak. McGuinty is a criminal who got away with his crimes and Hudak was a low testosterone faggot who blew a massive advantage. Twice.

And anyway, O'Leary isn't Harris. The similarity I am illustrating is that O'Leary has a similar path to victory as Harris. O'Leary is high testosterone, CLEARLY heterosexual, and he has the charisma of Tony Robbins. O'Leary can close the sale just like Harris did. O'Leary can win.

By criticizing Harris' actual failures, all you're proving is that there is a RISK that O'Leary will also fail in similar ways. OK fine. That risk is real. We'd be taking a chance on O'Leary. But like Mel Gibson's William Wallace character said,

Wallace: "You know what happens if we don't take that chance?"

Hamish: "What?!!"

Wallace: "Nuthin'.'"

Saying that all the candidates suck and we should therefore just check out and not participate is advice I hope guys reading this thread ignore. Sure O'Leary might fuck up. Fine. So become a member of the CPC and get involved in the party and politics and hold him accountable. If he fucks up, we'll take him down and hopefully Doug Ford will be ready to run. Or maybe even you Kosko, eh?

Checking out is not the answer. Let's get O'Leary elected and give him a chance. Because you know what'll happen if we don't? Nuthin' but more of the same little potato looking like a faggot sitting beside the God Emperor and embarrassing this country. Let's bring testosterone back to Ottawa. Give masculinity a chance.

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(02-14-2017 10:24 AM)scotian Wrote:  I just watched that Rebel video, damn those women have deep voices and use that annoying vocal fry too, brutal. I'm surprised that they're anti-) O'Leary and pro-Bernier, it was pretty funny that they're making fun of his strong accent, which I don't think is any worse than Jean Chretien's.

The Canadian left doesn't need a politician who can speak english well, since Toronto and Montreal and Vancouver will not vote right anyway.

The Canadian right is Alberta plus whatever of rural Ontario/BC they can muster. This is where Bernier shit the bed not working on his accent. Really disappointing.

Because he could have made huge inroads with Bloc voters in QC, and went for everything there except Montreal. Which is something O'Leary will not be able to do.

I did like O'Leary's take down of Wynne over provincial energy costs. He should focus on an Ontario, not national, run.
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(02-14-2017 03:06 PM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 10:24 AM)scotian Wrote:  I just watched that Rebel video, damn those women have deep voices and use that annoying vocal fry too, brutal. I'm surprised that they're anti-) O'Leary and pro-Bernier, it was pretty funny that they're making fun of his strong accent, which I don't think is any worse than Jean Chretien's.

The Canadian left doesn't need a politician who can speak english well, since Toronto and Montreal and Vancouver will not vote right anyway.

The Canadian right is Alberta plus whatever of rural Ontario/BC they can muster. This is where Bernier shit the bed not working on his accent. Really disappointing.

Because he could have made huge inroads with Bloc voters in QC, and went for everything there except Montreal. Which is something O'Leary will not be able to do.

I did like O'Leary's take down of Wynne over provincial energy costs. He should focus on an Ontario, not national, run.

This would be a better plan for O'leary. He's like the polar opposite of lesbiwynne and in Ontairo he can summon up the ghost of Rob Ford and campaign with Doug.

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Mad respect to these legal immigrants in Canada.


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Universal basic income coming to Canada

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Quote:Of all the ideas to pull people out of poverty, one of the more contentious is also the simplest: governments should just hand out monthly checks to the poor, no strings attached.
That’s exactly what the Canadian province of Ontario plans to do, and it’s already causing a ruckus. The Liberal Party currently in control of the provincial government aims to roll out a pilot for a “universal basic income” program in three cities in the spring of 2017.

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UBI has merits as a cost saving hustle for Governments. Instead of bloated welfare programs with paper pushers to implement, manage, monitor, and review the programs you can toss out bloated staff and pair down payments. UBI is an easy sell to people as you can guarantee and promise that a floor has been set that nobody can fall under. All of that can make sense but like most Govt programs they are misguided in how things will actually result down the road. There projections are never right with these types of things.

But there is a big catch of course. Govt has never been able to get rid of poverty and many times they make the conditions worse.

One example where UBI will fall short is with housing. An example... In Toronto 60k people are on the waiting list for Social Housing. Okay cool, you cut each of these people cheques for UBI and to factor in the bare minimum ratio of 30% that should go towards shelter. Okay, not you got these people with cheques going around bidding over a scarce supply of housing. It isn't like more is being built so what will happen? Would this not just drive up the costs of housing already even if these people are all competing for the lower and substandard stock of homes?

Next is the wild regional differences... Do you have a set UBI province-wide or do you factor in it costs nothing to live in Sault Saint Marie versus Toronto. How do you set those metrics and how do you define cutoff and thresholds? Wouldn't poor people just move to the cities and get more UBI money and then slum it the best they can?

Also, there is the dark truth of incentives and value proposition. Would the poor just spend the money at the casino and on Pepsi and corn dogs, or would they find a small shack to rent while they take night classes at the community college to try and better themselves? You could argue the person in the small shack is already doing that with marginal if no assistance from the Govt. Plus is UBI only for the usual suspects of ODSP/"disability" and single mothers? No UBI for men I would imagine who are shut out of social assistance unless they qualify for disability. Of corse none of that is getting addressed with this because Govt is just trying to buy votes. UBI is pure off-loading of social costs onto the general public. We will all pay for with more expensive services and housing, that is all it is.

The irony of how anti-government I have become over the years. Far too many times I have seen them bungle simple shit and fail to solve simple problems. As I said many times I would not trust Government to plan something as simple my daughter's (if I had one) sweet 16 party. It would turn into a bloated cost affair, half empty, with too much staff, and tranny bathrooms.

The incompetence of supposedly smart people who can't solve simple problems. I'll never understand it.
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Hooray - Mayor "tweet" Coderre has announced Montreal will be a sanctuary city. I guess he looked at Paris and thought, "hey, that could be us!"

Maxime Bernier is appearing in Laval tomorrow, I may go along to see what he has to say. He's certainly making some of the right noises (most recently: change AR-type rifles to non-restricted).
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Ontario continues to isolate itself.

They made $4 billion off transfer payments last year. So they can't even support themselves, and are relying the manufacturing and resource industry in the rest of Canada to support their shitty politics.

The UBI will not work in Canada, and any other country bar Singapore.

It will be tragic to watch Ontario try, they are so mental with trying to be the loudest and most virtuous place. Watching Sweden melt down is not good enough, they have to jump in the fire as well, but with a can of fuel for good measure.
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^ The problem for Canada in general is that Ottawa considers Ontario (and Quebec) too big to fail.

Globe and Mail Wrote:Here at home, Canadians know without equivocation that Ontario is far too big to fail - far more so than a couple of big U.S. banks or, for that matter, the state of California. By itself, California is the world's eighth-largest economy but it represents only 15 per cent of the U.S. economy. Ontario represents 35 per cent of the Canadian economy. A bankrupt Ontario is a bankrupt Canada.

In any serious economic crisis, the federal government would assume Ontario's debt (as it would similarly assume Quebec's debt). This is moral hazard, of course, the kind of insurance policy that encourages Ontario and Quebec to borrow excessively - and, indeed, recklessly.

Ontario is like Canada's "District of Columbia" with Ottawa being in it. Ottawa won't let Ontario go bankrupt. Or Quebec. So these provincial governments borrow like there's no tomorrow and spend like drunken sailors.

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As a Canadian watching canada change from the other side of the border, its amazing to watch Canadian politicians drive the country down a road to ruin like complete idiots.

Ontario, in particular has been a spectacular debacle. The city I moved from has raised property taxes 38% since 2008, Hydro rates have gone up 40% since something like 2010?! Grocery prices up about 20% in the last 3 years and gas prices being about double what I pay here in america, before the new fangled carbon tax. Housing is outrageous, the home I owned in 2004 sold in 2015 for 2.25 times what I bought it for.

What happens when the wheels fall off the wynne wagon? If I still lived in Ontario, I would be freaking the fuck out economically, how do you guys handle it?

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(02-20-2017 08:58 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  What happens when the wheels fall off the wynne wagon? If I still lived in Ontario, I would be freaking the fuck out economically, how do you guys handle it?

We plan our migration to Trump's America. I myself cruise across the border regularly to hunt for a suitable American woman to exploit at the altar in order to expedite the process. Gonna do it the old fashioned way. That's how my old man did it. (Actually he did it several times - bit of a pimp dad was).

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^Im looking to move down south also after I graduate. After doing some quick research I have found these options for legal immigration:
1. Find a woman to get married to for minimum 2 years (I actually have a friend who offered to get gay married to lol)
2. Investing 1 million USD into starting a business
3. Having some outstanding talent such as becoming a Olympic athlete
4. Get a job and have them sponsor your citizenship

Are there any other options I am missing and are there any other RVF members who have made the move successfully?
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Ontario is just California with shitty weather and less fake tits.

Both places think they are smarter than the rest due to the massive economies and populations. Both are flat broke with flatlined industry.

I'm sure UBI will be boost the the LCBO now that folks can just take a UBI cheque to money mart and go buy booze with it.

Bringing up Singapore is a good point as they are very small and can scale these social programs at an appropriate size. Imagine the Toronto GTA with the power to tax fully and create it's own debt. It can cut itself off and largely self sustain itself of very modest levels of industry. Singapore can afford to house and take of its people very easily, Hong Kong is similar even thigh it isn't to the same extent as Singapore. These models simply can't be replicated in larger places where services delivery for Govt is prohibitively more expensive. This is one aspect that kills Canada as it can't figure out a way to cheaply provide health care to rural Canada where you have older populations and more health adverse Aboriginals living. They burn money every year trying to figure it out and no plan has kept costs in check.
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(02-20-2017 09:02 PM)Ghost Tiger Wrote:  
(02-20-2017 08:58 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  What happens when the wheels fall off the wynne wagon? If I still lived in Ontario, I would be freaking the fuck out economically, how do you guys handle it?

We plan our migration to Trump's America. I myself cruise across the border regularly to hunt for a suitable American woman to exploit at the altar in order to expedite the process. Gonna do it the old fashioned way. That's how my old man did it. (Actually he did it several times - bit of a pimp dad was).

Same here brother. As long as Trump don't shut the door on us canuks I will take a gamble on making it in America while they go through their boom years with him in charge.

I can't think of a better time to head to America. As long as you're in the interior, Midwest, or decent part of the South you are good. I wound head to the coats as they will boil over with turmoil. Texas look nice but I'm not sure about the politics in places like Dallas and Houston.

Find me in Detroit, Chicago, Minneapolis, maybe Florida, but I hear places like Orlando are shit holes and Miami is too crazy. Arizona looks very tempting as well as I like the heat but I'm not sure what the economy is like. I've heard it's getting better as Tech is leaving California due to taxes and inability to get workers to move there sine nobody can afford to live there anymore.

All very good options especially if Canada goes belly up for a couple of years.
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I have a zillow account that keeps me updated on land in eastern Washington, Idaho and Montana.

I almost bought one of my contractors businesses in the Fraser Valley just south of the border a couple years ago, and my mentor still brings it up. It would have required selling my home in Vancouver though, as I could not afford to carry both due to the down payment in the US.

I like BC at the moment, it feels like it going in the direction I need. I can start a business and have it registered in 5 min, the taxes are OK, and the government stays out of my shit. Dealing with the government is actually pleasant, and grants and help from agencies like Export Development Canada is staffed by hustlers.

We have an election in the spring and the NDP I feel it doesn't stand a chance. I hear people yell the Clarke must go, but they don't offer any real reasons. Fingers crossed that we maintain this knife edge growth during the systematic NDP destruction of Alberta.
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(02-20-2017 09:37 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  ^Im looking to move down south also after I graduate. After doing some quick research I have found these options for legal immigration:
1. Find a woman to get married to for minimum 2 years (I actually have a friend who offered to get gay married to lol)
2. Investing 1 million USD into starting a business
3. Having some outstanding talent such as becoming a Olympic athlete
4. Get a job and have them sponsor your citizenship

Are there any other options I am missing and are there any other RVF members who have made the move successfully?

4.5 NAFTA TN Visa while it still exists. Its not a permanent resident visa, but its infinitely renewable. Thats what got me into the US for 6 or 7 years before I got married.

I have heard of people getting permanent residency via naturalization off of a TN visa, but I don't know how that works.

There are other, multi step and somewhat confusing options. If you are serious about moving to the US, its worth the time now to spend some money consulting with an immigration lawyer about your options and how you should plan ahead. They can work with you to lay out a game plan.

Last...if I didn't already run one business, this would be an interesting boutique business venture. The MAGA/Nevertrump citizenship exchange. The business could match Canadians who want to move to America and vice versa and make marriages happen so they can essentially switch citizenship with each other

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RE: The Canada Political Thread
I'm starting to think most of the issues we have in Canada have to do with the politics, culture, and economics of Ontario. How correct am I with this assumption?

Let's not forget that we have it pretty damn good in Canada as a whole (relative to most of the world). But it's still about making the most of it. I'm tired of being in the GTA, so I'm considering moving elsewhere to another province and major city.

I'm all ears to suggestions.
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I'm thinking about inland BC, some acreage there. Growth area, as it has the best weather in Canada with retirees coming in, and still enough western rural influence to balance out the urban west coast SJW insanity. I've yet to visit though.

Laner, have you looked into Oregon (outside of blue hair strongholds like Portland) or northern-northern California?

Gay cakes and trans bathrooms: the most important human rights issues of our times, surely.
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