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Max is the only real “inclusive” guy but of course the other parties and media are pushing the “racist” narrative on the PPC.

I like his message that whatever you are, this is our way of life, get onboard or bounce, loosely interpreted.

That’s how it should be. The pandering to Muslim groups and the LBGTQP2 “community” has to stop.
07-06-2019 12:37 PM
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I can’t wait for the debates, hopefully Max brushes up on his English, Trudeau will be his typical bumbling idiot self and Scheer should be on point, he’s a bit soy but has his moments. Who knows about Singh, he’s a nobody, definitely no Jack Layton!

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07-06-2019 01:19 PM
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It is stunning that a francophone from Quebec is the “nationalist” choice.

I think he’ll have a real hard time getting westerners to trust him since they are pretty much programmed from birth to hate everything and everyone from Quebec. I’m an anglo from Ontario and he’s the best option I can see.

Scheer couldn’t have an easier route to victory, but he keeps unnecessarily stepping on landmines.

All he needs to do is not be Trudeau, but he can’t stop pandering, which is Trudeau like behaviour.

I really can’t see Max winning, but I’m voting PPC anyway. I hope enough people do rather than the usual voting strategically.

I understand to a degree. Another Trudeau government is the worst case scenario. That absolutely can not happen. Scheer has no sack though. His estrogen level is probably abnormally high. He’s too close to Trudeau on too many things to get my vote.
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The more I look into Max, the more impressed I am, he looks like the most based candidate in the West (not the Canadian West but western countries that is), right up there with Salvini:


PPC Platform:

Supply Management: Making Dairy, Poultry, and Eggs More Affordable
Equalization: Fairness For All Provinces
Firearms: Respecting Legal Firearms Owners and Targeting Criminals
Health Care: Giving Provinces the Incentives to Deal with Wait Times and Rising Costs
Internal Trade: Getting Rid of Interprovincial Trade Barriers
Global Warming and Environment: Rejecting Alarmism and Focusing on Concrete Improvements
Foreign Policy: Focusing on the Security and Prosperity of Canadians
Freedom of Expression: Protecting Canadians from Censorship and Discrimination

https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/platform

What's not to like?

I would push for a national energy policy where
-we build pipelines to both oceans from Alberta
-we build refineries and process all domestic gas plus some excess for export to the US
-we tax all oil exports and remove taxes on domestic consumption

This would lower gas price to below $0.90/l, for the next several decades.

I would also build a high speed train line from Windsor to Quebec, serving the majority of the Canadian population and bringing tighter economic cooperation between the leading two provinces.

Also, there is some merit to supply control in agriculture, free trade has negative externalities, which some libertarians are too short-sighted to consider. Instead of using supply control, I would instead level the playing field by eliminating income taxes for small farmers, up to a certain amount. Bernier lost the CP nomination because of this, he needs to adopt more populist economic policies favoring the livelihood of small businesses and free enterprise, instea of the wild, winner take all big business neoliberal mindset, which has been a disaster for the purchasing power of the middle class.

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The problem with Max is he came across as a whiny spoiled brat when he lost the CPC leadership. I would defiantly vote PPC in 2023, but can't risk what could be vote splitting disaster, and allow the Libs to squeak back into a minority govt.

Max should have waited until after this election, then spent 4 years building the PPC brand, and then coming hard against the Libs next go round. The only upside to the timing is that it will get the PPC name and platform out there, to give Max something to build on. I just hope he doesn't do have the juice to pull enough Conservatives away from Scheer. We can't survive 4 more years of JT.

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07-07-2019 07:26 AM
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Like Hilary Clinton winning being best for Alex Jones, maybe Trudeau winning is best for Bernier?

Split Conservative vote, people get stuck and fed up with Trudeau for 4 more years then they turn to a better alternative, not Smiley Scheer.

Scheer or Trudeau, doesn’t matter, just less annoying and it’ll piss off The “Cuck Boy Canadians” media.

Also, think with all the scandals, resignations, {{{they’ve}}} (French version of ((( )))) turned and threw in the towel on Justin and are looking to push a woman to Liberal power.
07-07-2019 07:39 AM
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(07-07-2019 07:26 AM)ChefAllDay Wrote:  The problem with Max is he came across as a whiny spoiled brat when he lost the CPC leadership. I would defiantly vote PPC in 2023, but can't risk what could be vote splitting disaster, and allow the Libs to squeak back into a minority govt.

Max should have waited until after this election, then spent 4 years building the PPC brand, and then coming hard against the Libs next go round. The only upside to the timing is that it will get the PPC name and platform out there, to give Max something to build on. I just hope he doesn't do have the juice to pull enough Conservatives away from Scheer. We can't survive 4 more years of JT.

A split vote wouldn't be all that bad would it? Its not entirely like America that way. You may get Trudeau as the leader but he would have a minority government. PC plus the PPC could form a coalition and stop most legislation that was silly.

Max would then still be able to take pot shots at Trudeau for another 4 years to gain good press. Even then, with a minority government they could just do a no confidence vote and have another election any time within that 4 years.

Sounds OK to me.

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07-07-2019 08:20 AM
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(07-07-2019 07:39 AM)Jones Wrote:  Like Hilary Clinton winning being best for Alex Jones, maybe Trudeau winning is best for Bernier?

Split Conservative vote, people get stuck and fed up with Trudeau for 4 more years then they turn to a better alternative, not Smiley Scheer.

Scheer or Trudeau, doesn’t matter, just less annoying and it’ll piss off The “Cuck Boy Canadians” media.

Also, think with all the scandals, resignations, {{{they’ve}}} (French version of ((( )))) turned and threw in the towel on Justin and are looking to push a woman to Liberal power.

It will almost be as hard to handle a weak Conservative Prime Minister as it would to see Trudeau stick around another four years.
You already know how tiresome the media will become with their constant harping on some "hidden agenda" nonsense or other familiar Liberal smears. Despite years of Liberal mismanagement at both the federal and most provincial levels, there are Canadians who will still vote for Trudeau. It's unbelievable.
I don't think Bernier has the time or influence to build any sort of party that could be a credible contender, and maybe in some ridings he'll siphon off enough conservative votes to allow the Liberal or NDP candidate sneak in first past the post. I don't think he's the guy to pull off a Preston Manning Reform party deal. There's no religious fervor behind him.
We're stuck with the cuck.
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Stuck with a cuck lol!!!!

Soy Boy Scheer is basically Liberal light but I see him as our only chance to vote out Trudeau so I plan on voting for him although I like Bernier's platform better, I just don't think that Canada can handle another four more years of the Liberals, even under a minority government. I want all of these Liberal shit heads to be screeching like the leftists did when Trump was elected in 2016, NOOOOOO!

It's only been four years but it feels much longer, so much shit has happened and our country is transforming at a rapid rate and the cultural Marxism is increasing so much that normal, every day people like myself are just left wondering "WTF is happening?" Non-political friends of mine are pissed at Trudeau, it's so obvious that he "just wasn't ready" as Harper warned us during the last election. The ethics breaches, deficit spending, cow-towing to every globalist agenda (refugees, climate alarmism, etc) is just too much for the average person, I think even some long time Liberals (even the east coast idiots) are waking up to the nonsense. At least I hope so anyway!

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Any long time Liberal must be mortified at how this clown handles himself.

We all know he got in there because of his name. Unfortunately he’s a simp, and not cut out for a man’s work at all.

You could disagree all day long with PET, Mulroney, Chrétien or Harper, but at least they were men.

Watching this skinny fitted pants, faggy sock wearing, limp wristed fem getting punked on the world stage just has to kill those old school MP’s that are still kicking around.

The guy is a complete fucking disaster.
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I hope the most anti-immigrant party wins the next election so that this massive immigration can be shut down.

There is already a bad gender ratio in India which makes even 4s and 5s think they are princesses. Add to this the express entry PR that Canada has opened and its making every young middle class and upper middle class chick here think she can hitch a ride to Canada on some guy who has worked to get his PR or who is already there. A western passport has basically become a new "caste". Even women in their early 30s are now holding out hope that some Indian with a western passport will swoop them up.

Trump sending back lots of H1Bs is a start but now Canada is being seen as an alternative destination.
07-08-2019 03:26 AM
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(07-07-2019 08:20 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  A split vote wouldn't be all that bad would it? Its not entirely like America that way. You may get Trudeau as the leader but he would have a minority government. PC plus the PPC could form a coalition and stop most legislation that was silly.
Max would then still be able to take pot shots at Trudeau for another 4 years to gain good press.

Actually in that case, if Max has the brains and stones that Harper showed in a minority situation, he could end up being the de facto PM. Run the Minority like a majority with the help of the CPC. Should be reasonably easy for Max to influence a beta like Scheer into following his lead.

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(07-08-2019 03:26 AM)wannable alpha Wrote:  I hope the most anti-immigrant party wins the next election so that this massive immigration can be shut down.

There is already a bad gender ratio in India which makes even 4s and 5s think they are princesses. Add to this the express entry PR that Canada has opened and its making every young middle class and upper middle class chick here think she can hitch a ride to Canada on some guy who has worked to get his PR or who is already there. A western passport has basically become a new "caste". Even women in their early 30s are now holding out hope that some Indian with a western passport will swoop them up.

Trump sending back lots of H1Bs is a start but now Canada is being seen as an alternative destination.

Running on an immigration reduction platform won’t get anyone elected, there’s too many vested interests who want the floodgates to remain open: ethnic voting blocks, big business, leftist cucks, etc.

Fortunately we don’t have the same level of immigration problems like in the US and Europe, not yet anyway although Trudeau has done his best to encourage shitty immigrants to come here, the Liberals dropped a decades old rule that forbade immigrants with certain diseases and disabilities from coming here. Literally people with AIDS and genetic diseases/disabilities are coming here in huge numbers.

Canadians are so dumb when it comes to immigration that I don’t even mention it anymore, I try to convince people that our civil liberties are being eroded, mostly the new law that gives the police the authority to enter our homes up to two hours after driving and demand a breathalyzer sample. You’d think all Canucks could agree that this law is insane but sure enough members of my own retard family pulled out the old “well if it saves just one life” line, fucking shit heads!

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(07-06-2019 05:16 PM)SeaFM Wrote:  It is stunning that a francophone from Quebec is the “nationalist” choice.
I've been saying it for awhile, Quebec is going to be a "nationalist" stalwart in Canada with their special protections and way of life, they'll defend it and are best positioned to fight back against a globohomo post-nation Canada in the coming decades since theyre shitheads that compete, they won't take lightly to losing to other ethno-blocks for pandering from RoC anglo cucking. There's a reason groups that the media love to label as racist/alt right are mostly in Quebec "soldiers of odin"
(07-07-2019 07:39 AM)Jones Wrote:  Like Hilary Clinton winning being best for Alex Jones, maybe Trudeau winning is best for Bernier?

Split Conservative vote, people get stuck and fed up with Trudeau for 4 more years then they turn to a better alternative, not Smiley Scheer.

Scheer or Trudeau, doesn’t matter, just less annoying and it’ll piss off The “Cuck Boy Canadians” media.

Also, think with all the scandals, resignations, {{{they’ve}}} (French version of ((( )))) turned and threw in the towel on Justin and are looking to push a woman to Liberal power.

I think this was Bernier's gamble, he wasn't confident in Scheer's ability to win, stay looking strong by going solo and when Scheer fumbles have the Conservative party begging for him. I still think the PPC will surprise people, the fact they managed to pull 15% in a byelection in minority-majority riding in Metro-Vancouver looks promising.

Agreed with another poster re: Max's heavy neoliberalism, allows for big multinationals to win and dominate business. With the NDP hellbent on following Toronto champagne socialist SJW causes there's a large group of working class old stock Canadians that have no where to go/vote, which opens up rural/blue collar ridings. Ideally IMO it would be great to see a party like the PPC when it comes to nationalist ideals especially in regards to culture, while also looking out for the little guy/individualist workers and small business. Trudeau has been horrible for small business owners with moronic tax changes, and elimination of income splitting hurt families that had a homemaker spouse raising kids instead of shipping pre-K to state funded daycares. Current conservatives are way better but are still too far up big business asses. Such a party would sweep up a huge number of ridings in the heartlands and in the ex/sub urbs.

Max is gonna be facing some major media pushback limiting his exposure. First off the CBC absolutely hates anything right of left including centre, especially if their funding is proposed to get cut. Then you have major national networks owned by telecom companies, which would be threatened if CRTC allows the country to open up to foreign companies or if a return to Harper policies of promoting competition, but on the other hand they might like Max's net neutrality stance. There's also the almost a billion dollar print media handout handled by the Liberals and Unifor.

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(07-08-2019 03:26 AM)wannable alpha Wrote:  I hope the most anti-immigrant party wins the next election so that this massive immigration can be shut down.

There is already a bad gender ratio in India which makes even 4s and 5s think they are princesses. Add to this the express entry PR that Canada has opened and its making every young middle class and upper middle class chick here think she can hitch a ride to Canada on some guy who has worked to get his PR or who is already there. A western passport has basically become a new "caste". Even women in their early 30s are now holding out hope that some Indian with a western passport will swoop them up.

Trump sending back lots of H1Bs is a start but now Canada is being seen as an alternative destination.

There's massive visa fraud going on here currently with Indians coming here on student visas to "study" but then forgo the school part and just end up working several part time jobs waiting out the requirements to apply for PR after X number of years. This has started since Trudeau's election have they seldom investigate it. The schools don't care as they collect tuition cash, and there's quite a few paper degree mills that cater to this market. They all end up working in service sector (fast food/restaurant) or low level construction, actually are nice/hard workers but it's cheating in the end. Was seeing one such girl from OKCupid who is here on a study visa for some random ESL school but she seldom goes, instead works 12hrs every day for one chain franchise owner at different locations (not to raise suspicion). Was cool freak in bed and would bring food for me from work on her way to meet after her shift lol, had to end it was getting too weirded out by her sending selfies of us to her parents back home

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The Indians who are coming directly from India to Canada cause of Trudeau's open door policy are basically 2nd-3rd tier quality people. The first choice is still the U.S., although I know a few H1Bs who are planning to shift to Canada cause of uncertainty.

People here who are stuck in dead-end jobs believe they have a better future in Canada or any other western country. And then there are communities like the Punjabis and a few others where it is a status thing as well. The young man who doesn't go or the young woman who cannot get a hubby with a western passport; they are considered losers. If a young man says he is applying for Canada's PR, that itself is enough to get him several marriage proposals! It's just insane!

Most of these are not even STEM people. So the only way they can get in is via paper degree mills for diploma courses (a popular route for getting into Australia) and fake credentials. There are immigration agents here who claim that they can arrange a job in Canada for CAD $12,000, no matter what the person's qualification or current job profile is!
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It sure doesn’t help that instead of making babies and starting families you buy a dog instead or ride the carrousel. I say this for men and women. You need immigration to keep the pyramid going. Feed the beast.
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(07-15-2019 06:41 AM)tomtud Wrote:  It sure doesn’t help that instead of making babies and starting families you buy a dog instead or ride the carrousel. I say this for men and women. You need immigration to keep the pyramid going. Feed the beast.

This is very much true and is happening in India as well. On YouTube I see videos of western couples with not just dogs and cats but with exotic pets and it is obvious that the couples' lifestyle revolves around their pets.

Indians and I believe Chinese try to ape the western life aspirations to a large extent and in the west, these two groups are not known for having large families. It's usually one or two kids. So without continued immigration, these two groups will pretty much assimilate and eventually merge into the general population.
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I haven't been here in some time because, bluntly, I find it too depressing.

We are having our own southern border crisis, but our mainstream political parties and the media are basically ignoring it. The rest of Canada has declared total war on the industry and region of the country that pay the most into the socialist Ponzi scheme. The party in power is accusing its opposition of being all in for foreign interference in the election and threatening to shut down social media, even while high profile former members of that government call for foreign interference to benefit the LPC. The PPC Party, while looking good, is absolutely there to split the right of centre vote and therefore ultimately serves the man-child globo-homo currently in office.

All things considered, it's a sad time to be a right-of-centre and high tax-paying Canadian from Alberta.

One thing I have to weigh in on is the expected outcome of this Fall's election, which many posters have mentioned above. It looks like a Liberal minority. Indeed the Liberals can lose the popular vote and the seat count and nonetheless stay in power since by Constitutional convention the sitting PM gets his first chance to forge a coalition government.

A minority or coalition is actually worse than the current Liberal majority. That's because it will likely be one or both of the Green Party and the NDP propping up Trudeau and thereby having a disproportionate influence over foreign and domestic policy. Imagine a coalition government with Jagmeet Singh as the Industry Minister and Elizabeth May as the Minister of Environment. If that isn't nightmare fuel enough for you, imagine the kinds of policies Trudeau would pursue if he's even more beholden to the far Canadian left than he currently is...

Sorry if this post is depressing to you. But it probably illustrates why I don't say much on here these days.
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All those politicians have been bought and sold - if you can find a good Christian to vote for by all means go for it.

On voting: I'm going to vote in the Fall after having an anti-voting stance for many years, but I personally do not care of the outcome. Give yourself to Christ for no man can serve two masters.

It's freeing, liberating, to not care about the outcomes of political fanfare. You act to focus on your faith and family, and pay attention to what the government is doing in case you need to react to their schemes.

I've been waiting over 9 months for a clearance for a job with a federal agency, and I've passed through the, "job sites", seeing many non-Canadians working these jobs that very rarely take this long to process - to say nothing about the downward direction of another similar agency I am in the process for.

Federal politics are gone - as is the likely direction of the big cities - unless there is a cultural renaissance through faith.

Thankfully we live in one of the biggest and least countries in the world so there's plenty of room to move when the immigrants take over all the cities.

Newfoundland's land size, small and mostly "white" aging (empty houses!) population of 500,000, the lowest reproduction rate in country, and wildlife (hunting+fishing) make it a great place to escape the fruits of globohomo.
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(07-07-2019 08:20 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
(07-07-2019 07:26 AM)ChefAllDay Wrote:  The problem with Max is he came across as a whiny spoiled brat when he lost the CPC leadership. I would defiantly vote PPC in 2023, but can't risk what could be vote splitting disaster, and allow the Libs to squeak back into a minority govt.

Max should have waited until after this election, then spent 4 years building the PPC brand, and then coming hard against the Libs next go round. The only upside to the timing is that it will get the PPC name and platform out there, to give Max something to build on. I just hope he doesn't do have the juice to pull enough Conservatives away from Scheer. We can't survive 4 more years of JT.

A split vote wouldn't be all that bad would it? Its not entirely like America that way. You may get Trudeau as the leader but he would have a minority government. PC plus the PPC could form a coalition and stop most legislation that was silly.

Max would then still be able to take pot shots at Trudeau for another 4 years to gain good press. Even then, with a minority government they could just do a no confidence vote and have another election any time within that 4 years.

Sounds OK to me.

There are many swing ridings where a depletion of CPC votes to PPC would ensure Liberal gains and not be a certain things to make your theory hold. There is big danger of votes being watered down and misappropriated. Canada has a wonky and flawed voting system that leaves it ripe to shenanigans. Some ridings only get a few thousand votes and hundreds of disgruntled votes going for PPC over CPC can easily gift Liberals a seat.

If you dont want Trudeau to sniff anything close to a majority then the best bet is to put as ma y CPC in the HoC. PPC can make gains as an alternative party, gain some seats and then make a push for the next election. Canada can't handle another Trudeau majority.
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