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Quote:That suggests, at least in my observations in Bulgaria, that much of the practice of Orthodox Christianity boils down to tradition and culture rather than being an actively committed participant.

Same as in Catholic countries like Poland. 98% of the population is Catholic, the country shuts down for Easter/Christmas, but debauchery and intoxication is the norm for the rest of the year. If you date Polish girls, they will say they're Catholic, but they don't pray, don't avoid sin, and only go to Church with their parents.

Ukrainian girls are a bit better.... they sometimes wear jewelry with the cross. Laugh

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(06-01-2019 01:49 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
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Quote:I have a question for our fellow Orthodox members.

How does daily and weekly practice in this religion differ from country to country in your experience?

You will get a different answer from anyone you ask. Everyone's faith is different.

If you're a committed Orthodox faithful, at the minimum you're looking at two prayers a day, Sunday liturgy, and fasts for the biggest holidays. But you can do much more if you want, including extra attendance at church (e.g. Vespers) and the strict fast (every Wednesday and Friday).

That's a built in Fatty defense right there. I always get a kick out of how science or modern professionals 'discover' something that religions have been practicing forever.

Christian - prays to God : Secular Self Motivator - says positive affirmations 'to the universe', changes mood and gets great results, everyone better to that.

Jews - wash your hands before eating : Secular Medicine - wow there are a lot of germs on your hands, wash them before eating

Orthodox Christians - Fast 2x week : Secular fitness guru - wow, look at all of the health benefits of intermittent fasting, better do that

Jesus - don't be gay : Secular Medicine Dr.- Wow Risks of STDs, suicide, mental illness skyrocket with being gay.....

If you do the strict Orthodox Christian fast, you're essentially a vegan for a third of the year. I may try it.

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(06-01-2019 02:14 PM)Roosh Wrote:  If you do the strict Orthodox Christian fast, you're essentially a vegan for a third of the year. I may try it.

My confessor had me fast only from meat the first year, then each year fast a bit stricter. It made building the habit very doable.

Although even now I nearly always cheat and eat fish.
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(06-01-2019 02:14 PM)Roosh Wrote:  
(06-01-2019 01:49 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
(06-01-2019 01:24 PM)Roosh Wrote:  
Quote:I have a question for our fellow Orthodox members.

How does daily and weekly practice in this religion differ from country to country in your experience?

You will get a different answer from anyone you ask. Everyone's faith is different.

If you're a committed Orthodox faithful, at the minimum you're looking at two prayers a day, Sunday liturgy, and fasts for the biggest holidays. But you can do much more if you want, including extra attendance at church (e.g. Vespers) and the strict fast (every Wednesday and Friday).

That's a built in Fatty defense right there. I always get a kick out of how science or modern professionals 'discover' something that religions have been practicing forever.

Christian - prays to God : Secular Self Motivator - says positive affirmations 'to the universe', changes mood and gets great results, everyone better to that.

Jews - wash your hands before eating : Secular Medicine - wow there are a lot of germs on your hands, wash them before eating

Orthodox Christians - Fast 2x week : Secular fitness guru - wow, look at all of the health benefits of intermittent fasting, better do that

Jesus - don't be gay : Secular Medicine Dr.- Wow Risks of STDs, suicide, mental illness skyrocket with being gay.....

If you do the strict Orthodox Christian fast, you're essentially a vegan for a third of the year. I may try it.

I think you'll get a lot out of it, been doing it the whole year I've been Orthodox and it has a lot of benefits. Physical benefits, spiritual benefits, self-discipline benefits, and it builds a powerful "I want that, but I'm not going to indulge" loop in the mind that comes in very handy when temptation rears its ugly head.

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What calendar do you use to maintain the fast? There are tons of days that are exceptions.

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(06-02-2019 01:22 PM)Roosh Wrote:  What calendar do you use to maintain the fast? There are tons of days that are exceptions.

My archdiocese uses what's called the "New Calendar." We're vegan every Wednesday and Friday (except for Bright Week, the week after Pascha), as well as for 4 major fasts throughout the year. The longest one is Lent + Holy Week (the 47 days before Pascha), during which we can eat fish for part of the time but not the whole thing. We end up being vegan, if memory serves, for between 1/3 and 1/2 of the year. We also fast for 8 hours before we take Communion on Sunday morning, including from water unless you need it to take medication of some kind.

It's tough to do and can feel like a heavy burden to follow all these rules at first, but like Father Barnabas Powell says..."they're there to help you!"

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Hey guys, long time lurker here, thought you would all enjoy this lecture by prominent muslim scholar, on the end time alliance between orthodox christianity and islam. Just a quick search of sheikh imran hosein on youtube and you'll find lectures with orthodox priests in various countries and his lecture on the slippery slope of feminism etc is a very good one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIj1bMcdPr0,.

ie.. by the way this is on the topic of eschatology, something that I think a lot of you believers will like
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^ This is an odd presentation for many reasons. Islam denies the Gospel entirely; it is obvious to say, in the least, that the persons of Jesus Christ and Muhammad are a complete antithesis.

I think you get this out of some "interesting" islamic characters/preachers because their entire worldview, an islamic one, is that of objectifying an earthly kingdom. In that sense they are far more jewish, at least rabbinical jewish. Muhammad's emphasis on worldly things and the islamic views of worldly things being present in the afterlife make this point undeniable.

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(06-02-2019 01:22 PM)Roosh Wrote:  What calendar do you use to maintain the fast? There are tons of days that are exceptions.

The Antiochians put out an immensely convenient one page fasting calendar each year: https://antiochianprodsa.blob.core.windo...202019.pdf
I keep a copy on my fridge to help with meal planning. All the Eastern Orthodox follow pretty much the same fast/feast days. The Oriental Orthodox, however, don't.

There's not a whole lot of info in English for the Armenian Church, but the general outline is here: http://www.stthomasarmenianchurch.com/re...bstinence/
Your priest should be able to help.
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(06-02-2019 06:24 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  ^ This is an odd presentation for many reasons. Islam denies the Gospel entirely; it is obvious to say, in the least, that the persons of Jesus Christ and Muhammad are a complete antithesis.

I think you get this out of some "interesting" islamic characters/preachers because their entire worldview, an islamic one, is that of objectifying an earthly kingdom. In that sense they are far more jewish, at least rabbinical jewish. Muhammad's emphasis on worldly things and the islamic views of worldly things being present in the afterlife make this point undeniable.

I don't think you've understood the point of the video, eschatology is the study of the end times, and this is about an upcoming military alliance between orthodox christianity and Islam, not some theological intermingling of faiths. I agree with your point that there is a big difference between the two faiths.
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For those on the old calendar, and giving the Orthodox perspective on women anyway, relevant article by Jonathan Pageau relating to Mary and Ascension:

https://www.orthodoxartsjournal.org/two-...-confused/
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Transubstantiation. Yeah, we believe that in Lutheranism too. Part of the enjoyment of the ritual that is the eucharist.

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Actually, there are differences, Christ gave bread and wine to the apostles, not just bread. Smile
https://arizonaorthodox.com/tag/eucharist/
(See the photo in the link).
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I created a fasting calendar in Google based on Armenian Orthodox rules (http://westernprelacy.org/en/fasting-or-...ce-days/). I'm not sure if my calendar is 100% correct, but I did get a total of 160 days for 2019 (the calendar only displays fast dates from June onward).

https://calendar.google.com/calendar?cid...Z2xlLmNvbQ

The fasting rules for Armenian are way simpler than EO, and also less strict (you're allowed oil, though not fish). That said, you're still essentially vegan for 44% of the year. If you're curious about fasting, you can try this calendar out. If you are EO, you can always transition to the stricter form.

Quote:Fasting Rules:
-No meat, fats, dairy, eggs, alcohol
-Allowed: honey, vegetable & olive oil

From what I've read about fasting, there is no "wrong" way to do it. The point of the fast is not sacrificing or abiding by the law, but getting closer to God by limiting your material comfort.

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(06-08-2019 05:11 PM)Roosh Wrote:  I created a fasting calendar in Google based on Armenian Orthodox rules (http://westernprelacy.org/en/fasting-or-...ce-days/). I'm not sure if my calendar is 100% correct, but I did get a total of 160 days for 2019 (the calendar only displays fast dates from June onward).

https://calendar.google.com/calendar?cid...Z2xlLmNvbQ

The fasting rules for Armenian are way simpler than EO, and also less strict (you're allowed oil, though not fish). That said, you're still essentially vegan for 44% of the year. If you're curious about fasting, you can try this calendar out. If you are EO, you can always transition to the stricter form.

Quote:Fasting Rules:
-No meat, fats, dairy, eggs, alcohol
-Allowed: honey, vegetable & olive oil

From what I've read about fasting, there is no "wrong" way to do it. The point of the fast is not sacrificing or abiding by the law, but getting closer to God by limiting your material comfort.

You're going to do this while you do your tour?!

You'll be pulling up to a fast food drive through an asking "Hello, yes, it is Wednesday, do you have any mostly vegan options compatible with my orthodox fast? Also, do you have an employees only washroom that I can use? I have to take a dump but refuse to defecate in public restrooms"

Please keep a travel journal, this is going to rival Dead Bat in Paraguay.

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For those interested in learning about EO church, the video below is well done.
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