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I was listening Eksomologiste by Kabarnos while I was reading the other thread about Biblical practices and wanted to share it in that thread as it went slightly offtopic about worship music, then opened this thread and saw that you beat me to the punch Roosh.

I have a "funny" story about it, I first heard the Eksomologiste by Kabarnos on Youtube last December, and it inspired me to listen to Greek chants for the next couple of hours, and that in turn inspired me to go to the Sunday Liturgy next morning for the first time after several months. When I arrived to the Temple of Saint Sava for the Liturgy I found that the choir for this day was Greek and they sang the Greek chants. Apparently there was some kind of organised visit from Greek Orthodox Church to Serbia at that time, I could see a lot of Greek teenagers in and around the Temple, so they arranged a common Liturgy for that morning.
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Starts off slow, and then...


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I was genuinely disappointed the moment I heard it slowing down.

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Plotiju Usnuv (You Have Fallen Asleep)








Nikodimos Kabanos' amazing voice.




Ancient Russian Znamenny chant with musical arrangement.


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Beatitudes - Orthodox chant in Church Slavonic (reminded me of my late Slovak grandparents' Old Church Slavonic chant)




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Znamenny Cherubic Hymn


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"When in doubt, Cross it out" as the saying goes.
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I attended a liturgy in an Orthodox monastery (Holy Trinity Monastery in New York). It was intense. There were about 25 men participating in it, all in robes. It was like the pro leagues.

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(06-18-2019 08:00 PM)Roosh Wrote:  I attended a liturgy in an Orthodox monastery (Holy Trinity Monastery in New York). It was intense. There were about 25 men participating in it, all in robes. It was like the pro leagues.

Ah, small world. I heard of the Holy Trinity Monastery, but I know it's part of ROCOR (The Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia). My cousin is a Russian Orthodox Priest whose parish is also part of ROCOR as well.

These guys are pretty hardcore Russian Orthodox.

The interesting thing about these Russian Orthodox Priests is that they use LOVE using incense.

When my cousin's father (my late father's oldest brother) passed away at 92 a few years ago, I attended the funeral at a Russian Orthodox Church with my folks in my hometown. Holy crap...there were 6 Russian Orthodox Priests from other ROCOR parishes plus my cousin. Each priest used their own incense during the funeral service (chants, liturgy, reading, hymn, etc.).

Let's just say the entire church was filled with smoke that one could barely see and breathe. My father was amused and he was kind of smiling a little bit. All he could say was, "Cripes...too much incenses". lol
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There's an idea - Vencer™ - Vape censers for priests.

Mini smoke machines that use vape juice and fit in the censer.
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(06-18-2019 11:17 PM)Sooth Wrote:  There's an idea - Vencer™ - Vape censers for priests.

Mini smoke machines that use vape juice and fit in the censer.

There is a world's largest thurible (aka incense burner) at Santiago de Compostela Cathedral in Spain. Thing is massive. lol






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Even if it wasn't the Orthodox Church, you know something like that was thought up and built by men!


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(06-18-2019 11:17 PM)Sooth Wrote:  There's an idea - Vencer™ - Vape censers for priests.

Mini smoke machines that use vape juice and fit in the censer.

There is a world's largest thurible (aka incense burner) at Santiago de Compostela Cathedral in Spain. Thing is massive. lol







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When I first saw that monster thurible, I immediately imagined a nude Miley Cyrus riding it back and forth across the church, streaming smoke.

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^ Did you just get back from a bender, debeguiled? Long time no see. LOL

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These amazing recordings display the deep soul and spiritual beauty of Orthodox music. The cultural fruits of immense suffering, they bring tears to my eyes every time.








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Tchaikovsky: Liturgy of St John Chrysostom
Quote:Composer: Piotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky
Artists: National Academic Choir Ukraine ‘Dumka’, Yevhen Savchuk (conductor)

"I attend Mass frequently. The liturgy of St John Chrysostom is one of the most exalted works of art. Anyone following the liturgy of the Greek Orthodox service attentively trying to comprehend the meaning of each ceremony will be stirred to the very depth of his being. I am also very fond of evening prayers. There is nothing like entering an ancient church on a Saturday, standing in the semi-darkness with the scent of incense wafting through the air, lost in deep contemplation to find an answer to those perennial questions: wherefore, when, whither and why?" These are the words of Tchaikovsky writing to his patron Nadezhda von Meck (who he never met), and he continued, ‘As you can see, I am still bound to the Church by strong ties, but on the other hand I have long ceased to believe in the dogma … this constant inner struggle would be enough to drive me out of my mind were it not for music, that great comforter, the most exquisite gift Heaven has bestowed on a mankind living in darkness.’

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Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, Op. 41:
00:00:00 I. Lord, have mercy
00:03:11 II. Glory be to the Father
00:07:21 III. O come, let us worship
00:11:37 IV. Alleluia
00:12:47 V. Glory be to Thee
00:16:40 VI. Hymn of the Cherubim
00:24:30 VII. Lord, have mercy
00:26:34 VIII. The Creed
00:31:01 IX. The mercy of peace
00:34:18 X. We sing Thee
00:37:36 XI. It is meet
00:41:43 XII. Amen, and with Thy spirit
00:43:25 XIII. Our Father
00:47:18 XIV. Praise ye the Lord from the heavens
00:50:32 XV. Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the Lord




Liturgy of St John Chrysostom (Valaam Monastery)
Quote:The Valaam Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom. Hierodeacon Herman (Ryabtsev) with the brethren of the Valaam Monastery




Note: Both videos are over an hour long.
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(08-11-2019 09:13 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  Tchaikovsky: Liturgy of St John Chrysostom
Quote:Composer: Piotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky
Artists: National Academic Choir Ukraine ‘Dumka’, Yevhen Savchuk (conductor)

"I attend Mass frequently. The liturgy of St John Chrysostom is one of the most exalted works of art. Anyone following the liturgy of the Greek Orthodox service attentively trying to comprehend the meaning of each ceremony will be stirred to the very depth of his being. I am also very fond of evening prayers. There is nothing like entering an ancient church on a Saturday, standing in the semi-darkness with the scent of incense wafting through the air, lost in deep contemplation to find an answer to those perennial questions: wherefore, when, whither and why?" These are the words of Tchaikovsky writing to his patron Nadezhda von Meck (who he never met), and he continued, ‘As you can see, I am still bound to the Church by strong ties, but on the other hand I have long ceased to believe in the dogma … this constant inner struggle would be enough to drive me out of my mind were it not for music, that great comforter, the most exquisite gift Heaven has bestowed on a mankind living in darkness.’

Tracklist
Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, Op. 41:
00:00:00 I. Lord, have mercy
00:03:11 II. Glory be to the Father
00:07:21 III. O come, let us worship
00:11:37 IV. Alleluia
00:12:47 V. Glory be to Thee
00:16:40 VI. Hymn of the Cherubim
00:24:30 VII. Lord, have mercy
00:26:34 VIII. The Creed
00:31:01 IX. The mercy of peace
00:34:18 X. We sing Thee
00:37:36 XI. It is meet
00:41:43 XII. Amen, and with Thy spirit
00:43:25 XIII. Our Father
00:47:18 XIV. Praise ye the Lord from the heavens
00:50:32 XV. Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the Lord




Liturgy of St John Chrysostom (Valaam Monastery)
Quote:The Valaam Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom. Hierodeacon Herman (Ryabtsev) with the brethren of the Valaam Monastery




Note: Both videos are over an hour long.

I don't speak a single word of Russian, but I could listen to Valaam monastery chants all day regardless.

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POLICE INVESTIGATING CYPRIOT BISHOP FOR STATEMENTS ON HOMOSEXUALITY

Quote:A hierarch of the Cypriot Orthodox Church has found himself in trouble after statements he made in June on the origin of homosexuality became public recently.

The Nicosia Police have even launched an investigation into the supposed “hate speech” by request of the attorney general and announced that they will be taking a statement from His Eminence Metropolitan Neophytos of Morphou, whose statements have caused quite a stir in the media both in Cyprus and internationally.

The commotion began after video surfaced in which Met. Neophytos told the story of a young man who gave up his sinful, homosexual lifestyle after being rebuked by a monk to whom God revealed the man’s sin. When the young man asked how the monk knew of his sinful acts, the monk replied that his sins emitted a foul stench.

As is to be expected, the media widely misunderstood that the bishop was speaking in a spiritual sense, not claiming that homosexual men literally have poor physical hygiene. Such stories are common in ascetic literature. Another roughly contemporary example comes from the life of Elder Joseph the Hesychast, who understood that a certain man had made a grave error in writing a book in support of evolution because he emitted a foul spiritual stench (from the book My Elder Joseph the Hesychast by Elder Ephraim).

Met. Neophytos also relayed a teaching that he attributed to St. Porphyrios of Kavsokalyvia, the great 20th-century saint, that the passion of homosexuality can sometimes be traced to unnatural sexual acts committed by parents while the child was in the womb. The passion that arises in the mother’s soul thus has an effect on that of the child in her womb.

St. Paisios the Athonite teaches similarly that the purity of the souls of Sts. Joachim and Anna was passed on to their child, the Most Holy Theotokos in conception (from the book Saint Paisios of Mount Athos by Hieromonk Isaac).

Government officials in Cyprus have called Met. Neophytos’ comments “insulting” and "injurious.” The country's human rights commissioner said the remarks were discriminatory, and some have called for serious repercussions. “We want to see him recant and we want to see him defrocked,” said Zacharias Theophanous, a software engineer who has said he will run for Nicosia mayor in 2021, reports the Guardian.

http://orthochristian.com/123311.html

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(08-23-2019 03:50 PM)Roosh Wrote:  POLICE INVESTIGATING CYPRIOT BISHOP FOR STATEMENTS ON HOMOSEXUALITY

Quote:A hierarch of the Cypriot Orthodox Church has found himself in trouble after statements he made in June on the origin of homosexuality became public recently.

The Nicosia Police have even launched an investigation into the supposed “hate speech” by request of the attorney general and announced that they will be taking a statement from His Eminence Metropolitan Neophytos of Morphou, whose statements have caused quite a stir in the media both in Cyprus and internationally.

The commotion began after video surfaced in which Met. Neophytos told the story of a young man who gave up his sinful, homosexual lifestyle after being rebuked by a monk to whom God revealed the man’s sin. When the young man asked how the monk knew of his sinful acts, the monk replied that his sins emitted a foul stench.

As is to be expected, the media widely misunderstood that the bishop was speaking in a spiritual sense, not claiming that homosexual men literally have poor physical hygiene. Such stories are common in ascetic literature. Another roughly contemporary example comes from the life of Elder Joseph the Hesychast, who understood that a certain man had made a grave error in writing a book in support of evolution because he emitted a foul spiritual stench (from the book My Elder Joseph the Hesychast by Elder Ephraim).

Met. Neophytos also relayed a teaching that he attributed to St. Porphyrios of Kavsokalyvia, the great 20th-century saint, that the passion of homosexuality can sometimes be traced to unnatural sexual acts committed by parents while the child was in the womb. The passion that arises in the mother’s soul thus has an effect on that of the child in her womb.

St. Paisios the Athonite teaches similarly that the purity of the souls of Sts. Joachim and Anna was passed on to their child, the Most Holy Theotokos in conception (from the book Saint Paisios of Mount Athos by Hieromonk Isaac).

Government officials in Cyprus have called Met. Neophytos’ comments “insulting” and "injurious.” The country's human rights commissioner said the remarks were discriminatory, and some have called for serious repercussions. “We want to see him recant and we want to see him defrocked,” said Zacharias Theophanous, a software engineer who has said he will run for Nicosia mayor in 2021, reports the Guardian.

http://orthochristian.com/123311.html

Watch the video here: https://www.facebook.com/acceptCyprus/vi...964208144/

The man is obviously happier now that he is not a sodomite. It is interesting how coming out is legal, crossing over to become a trans is legal, but the mere thought of someone renouncing sodomy is seen as an impossibility.

I wonder if the young man will come forward, or the family so that this priest is not defrocked? It would be difficult as it is a very serious shame and he may be married now with a family.

How can a Mayor Defrock a priest anyways ? Orthos will have to stand up to the rainbow parade and their minions.

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"A man will know his brotherly love and his genuine charity when he sees that he mourns for his brother’s sins, and rejoices at his progress and graces." -St. John of the Ladder
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I wonder. Why Divine providence saw it fit for the Byzantine Empire to fall to the Muslim onslaught?
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Cyprus has been morally corrupted due to the influence of the EU and international banksters, it's a major banking hub.

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(08-30-2019 04:41 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  I wonder. Why Divine providence saw it fit for the Byzantine Empire to fall to the Muslim onslaught?

I wonder about this too. No doubt God allowed it to happen for a reason, but why?

Of course, right off the bat Byzantine Christianity got in such a bad state that the holy people literally fled to the desert; away from civilization, easily obtainable food and water, and even the sacraments in order to escape.

But the fall of a Christian empire still bothers me. Every year on May 29th by the Julian Calendar, I wear dark clothing and fast in remembrance of the tragedy.
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It wasn't a bad state, it was worry over what the traditional practice was that could be corrupted --- remember, the very identity Christians had was one in opposition with the State. They were concerned about falling into the trap of being "secure" much as we are today. And boy have we had it good. That's why those saints were holy and we still struggle mightily.

"Providence" in the human mind is a very biased and backfit example. I think the only way to understand it is that this world is fallen. We aren't supposed to "win" here, and have to be reminded of that. It's a curious thing for the human being to consider though, since it is natural for us to always want something better and generally more wholesome. But in this world, as we are taught, we can't escape suffering.

Even for all we have in this world, think of it, we are here at the forum. I can speak for myself; I have been granted many great things in life and have accomplished much, and I am grateful. But now the struggle has been given to me that (and it is a torturous thing precisely because it is so obvious and should be so easy) I must bear with a generation of corrupted women in my country, by and large. So I must figure things out, as I am corrupted as well in many ways. I must say very honestly that I laugh at the idea of not taking action and making something happen for yourself though. Can God put someone in your life at the right time and right place? Sure, but it is almost always because you were actively doing something, hopefully virtuously trying to make something happen. It doesn't just happen like some fairy godmother spell --- that's what women think the world works like. We men know better. And when I die, I can't imagine God, if I asked such a question, wouldn't be laughing and asking why I didn't do something about it.

That's why I think the "God will only give you xyz as much as you can take" is a crock of shit. I'm quite sure it is. Because if I couldn't take it, I'd die, and then it would be done. And no one would be talking about me "taking it" any more.

I love God but I make mistakes. I guess my point in all of this is that I reject sappy religious slogans and ideas that when really analyzed, don't make much sense at all, but are meant to make someone who doesn't critically think, feel better ... for the moment.

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