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RE: Anyone else here gone YEARS without any female affection?
Damn. You guys have it fucking rough. Can't imagine even going a month without sex. I banged a girl the day before I turned 14, a couple of days after a sexy 15yo amazoness dumped me. Haven't stopped getting my dick wet since.

It does suck to be on the other end of the spectrum though, banging mediocre chicks occasionally when the harem gets blown up or the ltr ends just to get a nut.

Sometimes I feel like a drug addict that needs to get his fix, after three days without Nutting I become more irritated and focus too much on the nut.
07-14-2019 10:41 AM
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RE: Anyone else here gone YEARS without any female affection?
(03-24-2016 01:48 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  In my grandfathers time every man was guaranteed at least 1 virgin woman in his life and some sex and affection from her provided he got married to her. Back then, even if your if your wife eventually became a total cold bitch or got fat, you still had a family, a home and affection from your children. The men who didn’t get married became monks or priests…this is how old society dealt with the MGTOWS and few gays back in the day.

You're actually wrong, historically only around 20% of men reproduced, many died virgins. INCELS were traditionally used as cannon fodder.
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RE: Anyone else here gone YEARS without any female affection?
What?? Where did you get that statistic from? If they made it to reproductive age they got married.
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RE: Anyone else here gone YEARS without any female affection?
I scared myself today and looked back when it was when I got back from my travels abroad in Scandinavia and Asia which was when I had my last date or sex. 2013. 6 years ago. I knew it had been a long time but it didn't seem like that many years. I'm 40 now. It probably sounds silly to some people in this thread. It doesn't really even sound real when I think hard about it either.

After having success abroad you start to second and third guess yourself. "I had success with being social and dating wide ranges of girls there, so I guess THEY were the problem here, not me!". Being single so long you second guess yourself too with thoughts of "If it were that important to you in your life, wouldn't you have figured it out by now???" In many years past, I have done 3 different dating bootcamps with 2 different companies to try and work on myself. But I don't really even read or watch much or any dating advice or 'pickup' things anymore. I see through some of the things when presented as slick marketing speak in specific language they use meant to move products. If some people get helped in the meantime, that's a positive bonus. I try not to read too many manosphere type things because I can feel that they scratch that itch in the woman-hating part of my brain when I read some of them. Personal development and lifestyle growth I think is still healthy to expose myself to.

With so many different women living in a big city like I do, it has to be me that's the problem. I started going to a gym 4 months ago to a personal trainer 3x a week to get my fitness handled. Partially because of a health scare, partially so I can be more attractive as a man, partially so I have some female energy in my life as my trainer is a girl. I've stuck with it so it means I haven't given up hope yet. Last week I started looking applying for a different job back in my field of choice after doing something different that wasn't financially successful, or something that bred good energy in my life. The ratio in the field is pretty terrible but less terrible than what I do now.

I don't know what the point of this reply was. Maybe a cry for help. Maybe the first step in 'recovery'.

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RE: Anyone else here gone YEARS without any female affection?
Yep - but only temporarily. Whenever I undergo a big move, such as moving to a new continent, I generally leap straight into monk mode, and completely focus my energies into the cultural transition in front of me. That being said, when I'm fully adjusted and fluent in the local language, I'm rarely dry for longer than 3 months. As a buffer, I tend to hold down a "girlfriend," just to insure myself against the intermittent dry spells I face.

However, I really can't imagine going years without a single bang, that's essentially the definition of inceldom. However, if one is stuck in an area with low quality women - if there are any women at all - I can see how one could be strong-armed into this unfortunate predicament. A drought is generally symptomatic; means it's time to move yourself to an oasis.
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^ I'm a bit afraid to ask... but is there any update to your situation Rex since you started this thread?
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RE: Anyone else here gone YEARS without any female affection?
Yeah there’s a thread about it. I managed to ask a girl out and we dated for a couple of months.

The original post is kind of funny (and sad) because I can see that I didn’t quite want to explicitly explain that by “years” I actually meant: almost 20 years. It took me a while to work up the nerve to post that (in the other thread).

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(07-20-2019 04:33 AM)rvlefty Wrote:  I scared myself today and looked back when it was when I got back from my travels abroad in Scandinavia and Asia which was when I had my last date or sex. 2013. 6 years ago. I knew it had been a long time but it didn't seem like that many years. I'm 40 now. It probably sounds silly to some people in this thread. It doesn't really even sound real when I think hard about it either.

After having success abroad you start to second and third guess yourself. "I had success with being social and dating wide ranges of girls there, so I guess THEY were the problem here, not me!". Being single so long you second guess yourself too with thoughts of "If it were that important to you in your life, wouldn't you have figured it out by now???" In many years past, I have done 3 different dating bootcamps with 2 different companies to try and work on myself. But I don't really even read or watch much or any dating advice or 'pickup' things anymore. I see through some of the things when presented as slick marketing speak in specific language they use meant to move products. If some people get helped in the meantime, that's a positive bonus. I try not to read too many manosphere type things because I can feel that they scratch that itch in the woman-hating part of my brain when I read some of them. Personal development and lifestyle growth I think is still healthy to expose myself to.

With so many different women living in a big city like I do, it has to be me that's the problem. I started going to a gym 4 months ago to a personal trainer 3x a week to get my fitness handled. Partially because of a health scare, partially so I can be more attractive as a man, partially so I have some female energy in my life as my trainer is a girl. I've stuck with it so it means I haven't given up hope yet. Last week I started looking applying for a different job back in my field of choice after doing something different that wasn't financially successful, or something that bred good energy in my life. The ratio in the field is pretty terrible but less terrible than what I do now.

I don't know what the point of this reply was. Maybe a cry for help. Maybe the first step in 'recovery'.

Go to a Salsa club. Chances are that there will be more women than men there. Just make sure to scout the salsa club first: from my experience, the hotties tend to go to a particular location in any given city.
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How does someone who hasn't banged a girl in 20 years have 27 rep points?
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RE: Anyone else here gone YEARS without any female affection?
You can earn reps in the travel or life forum as well. Doesn't necessary have to be advice about dating / sex.

But Rex, one of your rep point is of 2016, and it says ''Congrats for the bang!''
So you did had a girl 3 years ago?
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Yes

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RE: Anyone else here gone YEARS without any female affection?
Fascinating thread, I wish I had found it earlier.

So it's not just me who had a few sexless years (3.5 years).

Interesting there's some common denominators:

-porn addiction
-introvert
-lack of motivation due to being depressed or in a bad place mentally
-women today are the problem (and not travelling soon enough to find that out)
-didn't act on iois
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RE: Anyone else here gone YEARS without any female affection?
(07-14-2019 07:04 PM)John Dodds Wrote:  
(03-24-2016 01:48 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  In my grandfathers time every man was guaranteed at least 1 virgin woman in his life and some sex and affection from her provided he got married to her. Back then, even if your if your wife eventually became a total cold bitch or got fat, you still had a family, a home and affection from your children. The men who didn’t get married became monks or priests…this is how old society dealt with the MGTOWS and few gays back in the day.

You're actually wrong, historically only around 20% of men reproduced, many died virgins. INCELS were traditionally used as cannon fodder.
You're one of my favorites here, but I have to disagree. At least as far as my lineage goes. Checking my family tree going to back to the 19th Century and even beyond a bit in part, I find the vast majority of my ancestral men got married and had children. Many of them had lots of children. Of course I am Roman Catholic by birth and Italian on my maternal side. Lots of families with lots of kids. A few priests here and there too. Now if you want to talk going further back historically and taking in all the many cultures then maybe the percentage of of non reproducing men could be much higher. I am far from an expert on all the many cultures and societies past and present.

Regarding gay men of the past. Many of them got married and had kids as being a homosexual man was not the badge of honor that it is today. Having a family provided both sanction and cover. Anyway, another very interesting topic.
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RE: Anyone else here gone YEARS without any female affection?
(07-21-2019 08:16 AM)Rorogue Wrote:  Fascinating thread, I wish I had found it earlier.

So it's not just me who had a few sexless years (3.5 years).

Interesting there's some common denominators:

-porn addiction
-introvert
-lack of motivation due to being depressed or in a bad place mentally
-women today are the problem (and not travelling soon enough to find that out)
-didn't act on iois

I absolutely understand those issues you're dealing with as I've had some of the same however, 4 of those you can try and control and I guarantee would grant results yet you're likely using the bolded one as a scapegoat. Yes many women are damaged goods, yes the good ones can be hard to find, but to label them "damaged goods" when you, yourself appear to be damaged just reflects the problem and projects it on them.

Ask yourself this: Would you date you?

If the answer is no, find what you need to change and things will change.
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RE: Anyone else here gone YEARS without any female affection?
I always suspect that there was a MGTOW sub-routine running in this forum. It’s inevitable when men consider the cost - risk - benefits of dating women in Anglo environments. Quitting one’s domestic SMP for SEA, EE or SA is a form of MGTOW in my book.

I didn’t however suspect the incel level. It’s like inceldom is now the default position from the lower 80% of men. No matter who you are, if you’re not investing in an interaction, you’ll just slide back down the greasy pole and she’ll ghost.
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RE: Anyone else here gone YEARS without any female affection?
(07-28-2019 12:18 AM)N°6 Wrote:  I always suspect that there was a MGTOW sub-routine running in this forum. It’s inevitable when men consider the cost - risk - benefits of dating women in Anglo environments. Quitting one’s domestic SMP for SEA, EE or SA is a form of MGTOW in my book.

I didn’t however suspect the incel level. It’s like inceldom is now the default position from the lower 80% of men. No matter who you are, if you’re not investing in an interaction, you’ll just slide back down the greasy pole and she’ll ghost.


Part of it is volcel and you just dont want to bang 5/10 or below women who are unfeminine.

That's where I am right now since I got back from Asia 6 weeks ago.

I have two 4/10 Anglo girls I see regularly hitting on me every time I see them.
If they had a lovely feminine energy like girls did even a decade ago, I'd consider it. But they're very masculine and charmless.

The question is- why would I take it further?
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(07-29-2019 01:10 AM)Rorogue Wrote:  
(07-28-2019 12:18 AM)N°6 Wrote:  I always suspect that there was a MGTOW sub-routine running in this forum. It’s inevitable when men consider the cost - risk - benefits of dating women in Anglo environments. Quitting one’s domestic SMP for SEA, EE or SA is a form of MGTOW in my book.

I didn’t however suspect the incel level. It’s like inceldom is now the default position from the lower 80% of men. No matter who you are, if you’re not investing in an interaction, you’ll just slide back down the greasy pole and she’ll ghost.


Part of it is volcel and you just dont want to bang 5/10 or below women who are unfeminine.

That's where I am right now since I got back from Asia 6 weeks ago.

I have two 4/10 Anglo girls I see regularly hitting on me every time I see them.
If they had a lovely feminine energy like girls did even a decade ago, I'd consider it. But they're very masculine and charmless.

The question is- why would I take it further?

Exactly that! When you're a young playa in this Game, you see em & simply want to go for it! But when the above bolded word Hit you Dead in the face... and it happens suddenly... you freeze up... and say to yourself... do I really want to give the best of myself for that? When that happens... you've got some soul searching to do... real deep soul searching to do!
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(07-27-2019 11:22 PM)Broadband Wrote:  
(07-21-2019 08:16 AM)Rorogue Wrote:  Fascinating thread, I wish I had found it earlier.

So it's not just me who had a few sexless years (3.5 years).

Interesting there's some common denominators:

-porn addiction
-introvert
-lack of motivation due to being depressed or in a bad place mentally
-women today are the problem (and not travelling soon enough to find that out)
-didn't act on iois

I absolutely understand those issues you're dealing with as I've had some of the same however, 4 of those you can try and control and I guarantee would grant results yet you're likely using the bolded one as a scapegoat. Yes many women are damaged goods, yes the good ones can be hard to find, but to label them "damaged goods" when you, yourself appear to be damaged just reflects the problem and projects it on them.

Ask yourself this: Would you date you?

If the answer is no, find what you need to change and things will change.

I'm currently going through a prolonged dry spell I can't elaborate too much on, but suffice to say a couple of years ago I had a normal social life, dated/banged a good amount. Now due to personal problems I simply can't get out like I used to. Along with said problems there are the cumulative effects of ageing and the emotional damage of having dealt with dozens of run of the mill Anglo thots that has me saying meh to most interactions with women. I've had a lot of time to think (i.e. stew/fester) and I think the MGTOW worldview is basically accurate, though I still plan to get back in the saddle so to speak once my circumstances allow it.

To answer your question, in my current condition I wouldn't date me. But my condition a couple of years ago--I'd say I was a solid 8 or so, was very attractive and generally had my shit together, yeah I definitely would have dated me, but still I struggled greatly to build anything with a woman. Instead I settled for a lot of mediocre bangs.

So pussy/female approval can no longer motivate me to improve myself, since even if I get back to where I was, so what? I'm older now and the women seem that much shittier. I'll never give up on self improvement but I guess I see it now in more of a MGTOW way than a Game one.
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^ Good thing about not giving up on self improvement! From reading your posts here, you obviously have a way with words, so once you get Yourself together (especially about being in tip top shape... you'll be set! About Anglo women... I feel you on this one... however we've got Physical urges to take care of first Hehe!

In our current climate... we all have drawbacks we need to accept. The days of the Good ol wife waiting for you after a hard days work are virtually gone. There's no set answer anymore, so as men we have to fallow our instincts & Roll with it!

Be it Playboy Spinning Plate or MGTOW, it's all reactionary thoughts emaning from our current times... so there's no wrong answer about either of them.

Was in a similar boat as you as I had (hopefully had) some anxiety issues that I was covering with Major Overeating! Physically I'm far from were I was... but my Bodybuilding & Fasting knowledge prevented me from becoming the Fat Ass I should've become!

Of course the looks from women diminished... but the knowledge on how to achieve back my look is ingrained... and as long as my overeating issues are in check... re-becoming a "Ugly Tyrone" is child's play!

Since you already have the knowledge... the results are a given... however getting a Grip on these Demons... now that's a challenge some of us have to face Bug Time!

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RE: Anyone else here gone YEARS without any female affection?
Been almost two years. Only had a one night thing with a tinder match in the last 2 yrs.

I had the perfect life. My father was wealthy, and I did not have to work so I could spend my time getting women. I did very good, I often had 4-5 girls at the same time. Then one day, all of the sudden my pops died in an accident and I got cut off, also he was my best friend and losing him was really hard on me and fell on a depression where sometimes I thought about suicide. Plus when I went through all that, people who were my "friends" were nowhere to be found.

I moved with some family to the US for a while and got a job, but I can't connect with women here. I find people here too superficial/fake/boring. So I just been using my time to clear my debt, fix up my affairs so I can move back where I belong. Over there I do pretty well, my case is more like where I am is not helping me.
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@Pete.

I'm really sorry to hear that man. Thanks for sharing such a personal story.

I am honestly astounded by this thread. That so many guys who used to be players/have a lot of girls, have had long periods without women.

I even have to remind myself that I was somewhat of a player between 07-09. Seems like so long ago, where the atmosphere was so different.

Even guys I know who can get a lot of ass are shutting up shop and focusing on other things, while maybe retaining one chick who isn't so bad.

I am personally sympathetic to things like MGTOW. The dynamic in society is changing rapidly, and men are finding ways to adjust. Have to allow for some difference in opinion as different men see what's best for them.
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It's interesting.

I'm an aspiring fiction writer, and I've written/been trying to write short stories this year.

Most of the stories are on topics relating to this crisis in the environment between men and women. The type of subject the mgtow or sexless community of men talk about.

Considering this is becoming a pretty prominent issue- I believe 50% of men in Anglosphere cultures are sexless or sexless adjacent- I wonder if there would be a market based on these issues.

The mainstream can't ignore the issue forever.
I wonder how sexless men themselves would receive the stories.

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^ It's an interesting topic to explore. As for whether it would appeal to sexless men, I'm not so sure. I believe that most people value fiction because of the escapism that it offers, not to engage with topics that remind them of their everyday problems.
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Yep.

And I've come to peace with it.
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(08-02-2019 09:03 PM)Ouroboros Wrote:  ^ It's an interesting topic to explore. As for whether it would appeal to sexless men, I'm not so sure. I believe that most people value fiction because of the escapism that it offers, not to engage with topics that remind them of their everyday problems.

Yes that's exactly the thought I was having. Why would they want to read about someone going through the same problems they are.

However- and I'm aware of how stupid this sounds- maybe some sort of 'sexless hero' story is in order. Ie a story of a man who, despite the hostility against him for his looks, goes out into the world and bravely speaks his name/becomes somebody admirable.

That I think could be inspirational, and is definately what many men who are currently withdrawing from the world because they were dealt a bad hand genetically, need to do.

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