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This video is long enough to demand a full summary, but I'm only going to offer a teaser.

The video is a very slow-burning ascension towards a very big, highly contrarian sledgehammer. It starts with Scientology, or rather former-Scientologists, and highlights both (A) how they were oppressed with bad words like "suppressive" and "PSP" and (B) how fucking stupid these people felt after they left Scientology and saw how cultish and suppressive Scientology is.

From there...


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From there, the video asserts that all Progressive Liberals are basically Scientologists, because Scientology's urge to tattle, speech-suppress, and re-educate now rests within the doctrine of Racial Equality. If you believe that the races are more or less equal, then you also believe that most important human behaviors DO NOT have strong genetic components. And you also believe that humans must be indoctrinated into believing the races are equal, in order to get along.

So whenever someone comes along and seriously challenges racial equality, you'll start with name-calling, move to "No contact / no platform" policies, and go worse from there.

Next, the video makes many humorous comparisons of Scientology to "going to college", and other "cultish activities".

And, finally, it concludes that people who believed in racial segregation defeated Hitler through hard military combat, while the people who believed that the races are equal made deals to cooperate with Hitler.

Like most Alt- Hype videos, you'll probably need two listens, and you should prepare to have your deepest emotional beliefs attacked with a fucking sledgehammer.
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So here's my take on the race issue, and I think this is the fastest way to split the party.

Join liberal discussion groups and forums....then immediately start spewing the most virulently anti-white shit you can. Things like leftist articles openly advocating why white people need to die off and stand behind it. Shit like Tariq Nasheed is a great place to start.

Particularly effective post articles about how terrible white women are and link them to white Supremacy. Attacking them racially is the quickest way to divide them I'm realizing, especially if they get openly defensive then be extremely aggressive and tell them to shut the fuck up because they're white.

Best part is that if you're crazy enough with that and say enough things like "Republiklanners" or "fucking white people" then you're pretty much ban-proof in liberal groups. You're NEVER going to get banned from any progressive group or social media site for insulting people over being white so you've got free reign to abuse them to the point where they get pissed off at their own side. I've already managed to drive one guy out of an anti-Trump group this way and make him leave in a fume about how everyone there were "extremists".
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I like your style Easy C. Saying "fucking white people" or even "white people should die" might not cause a problem with the virtue signalling white lefties. However what if you were to get more specific? That should piss a few of them off, for example:

"White people shouldn't be allowed to vote"
"White people should be sterilised"
"Marriage between whites should be banned"
"Euthanasia should be mandatory for whites over 50"

I was thinking of something along the same lines, there was a anti-Brexit protest recently and I was trying to think of the most retarded and divisive anti-brexit signs you could hold up to bring to the event to protest Brexit.

"Why should the votes of old, stupid racist people matter more than mine?"
"Britain is a small insignificant country with no hope of achieving anything without the EU!"
"Open borders and mass immigration give us more types of friends and food!"
"We prefer being governed by a people we don't know than the fucking tories!"
"Old people, stupid people and racist people SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO VOTE!" (Mispel a word or two for this sign)

My ideas kind of sucked and I wasn't in the country though, but you get the idea.

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Yep. That's exactly what I'm doing with a lot of my posts in this experiment.. It's a matter of gently dancing against the line: saying something JUST crazy enough to make the white members of those groups feel threatened by it while not being quite over the top enough to make them feel comfortable lashing out against it. However if you can get them to lash out against something that isn't too over the top then they get dogpiled on by the rest of the group which fosters their own discord.

They also don't know how to react to things like Tariq Nasheed videos where he calls out some of the things they like (e.g. Planned Parenthood) as being instruments of white supremacy.
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Didn't know where to post this, but here is some controversial yet real and funny as hell stand up comedy from Doug Stanhope. You rarely see such political comedy nowadays. He hits all the taboo topics in a very coarse and NYC kinda way of course.

Anyway, enjoy with a cold beer (and a smoke?)


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Anyone that would want to start an intellegence/ Leaks thread? I would love to be able to talk to people about this stuff without devolving into conspiracy.
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(03-25-2018 03:08 AM)MMX2010 Wrote:  


It's a good vid.

And it's amazing how many policies are shaped by this very notion of every tribe and every culture is equal.

Feminism is also one such cult - a cult that is now expanding their definition of equality by even brushing away differences in body size and musculature. The only reason why women are weaker is because they don't work out as much as men in their teens. They deny not only biological issues, but of course any differences in interests, inclinations or IQ distribution.

The same with gay issues - the left will get super-angry when other gays like Armani say that gays create a bad environment for raising children and are not comparable at all to heterosexual couples - it's not anywhere close to what Hollywood is showing in all their shows.





Black Pigeon talked about this that in the future a country engages either in positive eugenics or later genetic engineering boosting IQs or they are left behind by other nations. If you think about it, then most countries in the West and Asia in the past had some kind of positive eugenics system working as the smartest, strongest had the most surviving offspring with kings regularly having dozens of kids.

Currently China is having actually a positive eugenics policy in terms of reproduction. Those with sufficient financial means can have more than 1 child as they can pay for it. In addition many rich men are having mistresses - sometimes letting them have one child as well. While poverty does not automatically correlate with low IQ, it's still relatively correlating with higher intelligence if wealth had been created recently which most of has been in China. So the less intelligent are having less than 1 children (the poorest least productive men are having zero kids), while the more intelligent are having 1-2.

This notion that everyone is equal is feeding the mass immigration industry and it will destroy the West if it continues. Though he mentions that acknowledging the differences could make it possible for the West to implement subsidized eugenics for the other tribes living in the West so long as the Western countries can still afford them. Over time they will devolve into shitholes if things continue the same way.

The Metacult is a good allegory, because there are many others out there that believe 100% in many issues that are basically built on a cult, since you are not allowed to question them:

+ global warming and that more CO2 will kill us all
+ vaccines - even the mention of criticism will make people insane with anger despite some of the ones criticizing being MDs and nobel price laureates, but it must be believed or else
+ another lesser, but still valid cult is the notion that current medicine is having your best in mind and offering you the best thing possible especially for your chronic diseases - 15 pills daily with horrifying side effects, while you could replace all of them in many instances by simple supplements, some marginal diet changes and little workout. The people are not even realizing how misguided many aspects of current day medicine are - of course not all aspects which make the cult actually more compelling because of it.

In addition you have other cults like the

+ infallible trusting mainstream media cult - even if many people disbelieve some parts of media, they still trust it generally
+ the celebrity and Hollywood cult ignoring all the propaganda squeezed into it constantly
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I didn't want to start a new thread, since this is just at some small university. If it was the Jefferson Memorial, that would be a completely different story.





They talk about the sins of Jefferson's past. Give me a break. I'm tired of hearing about the sins of America's and Europe's past. Comparing 2018 to the 18th century is ridiculous. Don't try to put a moral equivalency on things.

There's a specific word for trying to hold people of the past to the same morals and norms of the present, though I can't quite remember the word.

In that clip Laura Ingraham is quoted from 4:19 - 4:30:

Quote: And look, I'm not a black person. I don't know how it feels to walk by one of these statues and maybe you're told this person hated you and this person didn't think you were a real person. I can't imagine that.

Well Laura, you don't have to imagine it. Just walk by any Malcolm X statue. Go look up what Malcolm X had to say about whites. I wonder if the black guy in this video would say the same thing about taking down Malcolm X statues because of his past sins?

They're not going to stop. They're never going to stop. And if left unchecked, then yes, that black guy in the video talking about the sins of Thomas Jefferson and the Confederate soldiers will see that they will get to the Malcolm X statues one day as well. They will get to Martin Luther King Jr eventually too, go hear what the good reverend had to say about gays. Nobody is safe until all history is rewritten in their terms.

I'll leave it with this clip from Tucker Carson. The video contains all the classics including a child of Palestinian immigrants who hates America so much that she chooses to live here instead of her next door neighbors of her ancestral homelands in the Middle East.

However, there's on important quote that I think everybody should read or listen too, starting at 3:08:

Quote:Maybe that's because our elites welcome immigrants by telling them how horrible America is and how bigoted it's native population. Our immigrants believe that. Why wouldn't they? It's not their fault, it's ours. We're creating a lot of Linda Assors. This is a recipe for Civil War.

Diverse countries need a reason to stick together, they don't do it organically. Our elites oughta be staying up late every night figuring out what that reason is, why we should hang together. A shared language, a shared culture, a shared set of core beliefs, pick one! Our ruling class rejects all of those. Just shut up and say thank you. That's their answer. It won't end well.



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I feel that there is a limit some forum members are willing to go in pursuit of truth especially when tribal affiliations are concerned and utopian beliefs of universal equality are breached.

I won't mention it too much, because it obviously upsets many members and I don't think that they are willing to cross that river anytime soon - and I don't feel like engaging each thread in some kind of race-realism debates or how and why IQs matter.

There are some intellectual blacks - coincidentally those gifted with high intelligence - who share my views:





An article written by this black MENSA member:

https://www.amren.com/features/2017/01/y...e-realist/

I happened also to listen to a good vid of Alternative Hypothesis who has some excellent stuff online - not only on Youtube but also on his site:





Here he digs into Jordan Peterson and his radical individualism that is about as utopian as communism at this stage at least of our world.

Funny side note - AH said that he likely convinced more Nazis of abandoning that cult due to the fact that Nazism has some strange Aryan Hyperborean ideology that extol somehow the supreme virtues of subgroups of Aryans and even claim that the Japanese are Aryan. But then at the same time they poo-poo at slavs who are even more blonde and blue eyed than them and they even see the Italians as some inferior sub-species despite having created this 2000 years ago:

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And the Italians picked up as one of the earliest during the Renaissance after the dark ages:

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But somehow the Italians are some inferior stock because Bismarck & co have been able to whip the Germans in better shape during the 18th and 19th century. I agree on that, but that is no reason to view the Italians or even the Russians as some kind Undermensch. They obviously were able to create St. Petersburg, were just hampered by effective backwards slavery and still were efficient enough to create a modern space program - and actually keep it running to this day. The inferior slavs of Russia are the ones to call if you want to bring up a man to space, because NASA currently is more concerned about global warming propaganda and writing pro-refugee and pro-diversity articles. They cannot be bothered to have a cheap working space program on top of advanced R&D - the excuse they are giving now.

Also funny way how AH puts it: The White Nationalists of the US, Britain defeated the crazy Aryan cultist of Hitler. And frankly back then the US and Britain encompassed actual white nationalism.

In any case - I digress. I will rather refrain from stating certain obvious points I guess similarly how Roosh does not debate at all - just puts forth a statement and then does not even defend it, because what's the sense in that? If someone wants to think a certain way despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, then there is not much to be said about it.
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Ironically politics and war is an apt thread to keep this issue to because it's highly political, even on an individual level, and it will inevitably lead us to war.

I can understand why this is a touchy subject. Even if you're talking to a high IQ guy from a traditionally low IQ tribe about it you're still essentially talking about his mom, dad, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, cousins, and worst of all, his future (or current) sons and daughters.

Unfortunately what this leads to is an inevitable schism in society between people operating on facts and people operating on feelz. The feelz crew generally get to run the show in good times because facts are often harsh and nobody wants to deal with harsh realities unless they have to. It's during the pendulum swing towards hard times that reality begins to reassert itself and the facts crew begin to gain more sway.

Education is a prime example. The feelz crew despise the idea that people are inherently more or less intelligent based on their DNA. It seems basically unfair, and so they toss billions of dollars at erasing what is presumed to be discrimination in education outcomes, because if there is no such thing as a DNA advantage then the only explanation for disparate outcomes is some other form of inequality or "discrimination". As such they will toss endless money at the problem of disparate outcomes to sate their feelz.

But when the money starts to dry up and people start to feel more pain reaching into their pockets to fund those billion dollar equality initiatives then the facts crew start to put their hands up and say "hey, maybe it's time we revisited some of those possibilities we ruled out simply because they gave us unpleasant feelz".

Where war will come is rather simple. If the feelz crew isn't willing to concede to reality when the hard times kick in then the facts crew will have to choose between martyring themselves on the altar of feelz or breaking free of the cult of feelz and forging a new path that will ensure their survival.

And historically that process has never been peaceful.

By definition, when the unpleasant feelz of supporting delusions outweigh the unpleasant feels of confronting delusions then society is going to undergo a dramatic and probably violent re-arrangement.
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^ And even if the facts crew loses the war, it won't matter because the feelz crew won't have any talented people left to keep shit running. So even if they win, they still lose to reality. Ultimately the feelz crew are living on borrowed time before the great culling begins.

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(04-01-2018 09:54 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  In any case - I digress. I will rather refrain from stating certain obvious points I guess similarly how Roosh does not debate at all - just puts forth a statement and then does not even defend it, because what's the sense in that? If someone wants to think a certain way despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, then there is not much to be said about it.

I guess my question is - what is your solution to the IQ problem that you're always talking about? Because you always write "on average blacks are really dumb but I have many black friends who have super-high IQs" etc etc.

Ok, let's say scientifically you're right. What's next?
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(04-01-2018 09:54 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  In any case - I digress. I will rather refrain from stating certain obvious points I guess similarly how Roosh does not debate at all - just puts forth a statement and then does not even defend it, because what's the sense in that? If someone wants to think a certain way despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, then there is not much to be said about it.

I guess my question is - what is your solution to the IQ problem that you're always talking about? Because you always write "on average blacks are really dumb but I have many black friends who have super-high IQs" etc etc.

Ok, let's say scientifically you're right. What's next?

https://www.amren.com/features/2017/01/y...e-realist/

Why do you put such words in my mouth?

Starting with a fuck-you is indeed a good way to do it.

Acceptance of race-differences helps find a way, alleviate some rage and oppression propaganda. I mentioned possible venues of action, but that takes a deliberate top-down approach.

Your statement is just belligerent without any solutions - affirmative action, teachings of White Supremacy oppression and stoking rage against Whites - the current action plan seems to be working fine.

And what the fuck irks you so much, that you have to attack me in such a way? Go and attack that black MENSA member in the article too, go and scream at the ocean and blame me for the tides.

Strangely that young black man said it well in the interview with Jared Taylor - he realized that white folk talk about this not out of some racial hatred, but due to the desire to assess truth. He mentioned that this feeling of rage that he felt subsided. Though of course it's easier to do for him with an IQ of 141 who outperforms most guys from all races.

When you do that, than solutions can found - there is enough cash for that still available in the West. But it won't happen of course anytime soon.

But nice piece of passive-aggressive crap mate. I have no hatred against anyone here and try to see things as they are and not as I would like them to be. It's you who is angry at me for voicing actually scientifically backed data that explain a lot of things in our world.
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You preface every single one of your posts about Muslims, blacks , and minorities by using the NAWALT argument. That's why I brought it up. And you always put a disclaimer by citing one of your high IQ friends as an exception to the rule. We're not that stupid that we can't read between the lines. Just give it to us straight instead of going on and on about IQ- what do you want done about low IQ populations?
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Blacks and mestizos are disproportionately arrested and jailed, but if you account for IQ they're not.

If you don't acknowledge those group differences, this can only be due to racism and we need to implement arrest quotas and pour billions into useless programs to equalize things.

If you do acknowledge group differences you can just accept that there are going to be differences in arrest rates because propensity for crime correlates with low IQ.

Ditto for university attendance, average income, etc.

If you separate race and state, which includes destroying the welfare state, nothing will need to be "done" about low IQ populations.

That's fantasy though. Everyone will continue to insist that all differences are due to racism and that the state must force some groups to eternally subsidize other groups until the numbers are equal, then those things you're implying Zel wants to do will inevitably happen as the groups being sucked dry and the parasites/immigrates both attempt to seize control of the state and wield it against the other out of a desire for self preservation.

Hopefully I'll have enough money stacked up to be balls deep in rice in some faraway rand by then though.

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That's an excellent response. Can you elaborate on what you mean by "destroying the welfare state" though?
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(04-02-2018 09:36 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  You preface every single one of your posts about Muslims, blacks , and minorities by using the NAWALT argument. That's why I brought it up. And you always put a disclaimer by citing one of your high IQ friends as an exception to the rule. We're not that stupid that we can't read between the lines. Just give it to us straight instead of going on and on about IQ- what do you want done about low IQ populations?

It's unconceivable to you that someone might have a positive outlook on other tribes and does not discriminate while still accepting the issue?

It's impossible to you that a black man could be also a so-called race-realist?

"Your reading between the lines" is the desire to see some KKK member here, but I am not one of them. There is nothing that "needs" to be done with low-IQ populations. And I don't see them inferior - would never use that term just as don't see the Chinese inferior, because they have not evolved themselves to have as many sprinters among them. But over time it would be good to raise them since all tribes have that potential. Avg. black IQ can go beyond 115 over time. Even the late Jariel agreed on that, but I am the racist here.

Your reading something into my statement is fully dependent on your own feverish imaginations.

And IOP is absolutely right - nothing needs to be done, but the letting go of those leftist programs and the preaching of oppression and racism that explains all this over- and under-representation. Accept it as a norm that there will be fewer black Harvard graduates and fewer black CEOs. Instead of the representative 10% of CEOs it will be 1% and this is actually what happens - that 1% are as smart and able as the other white, Jewish and Asian guys at the top.

However a Western society could enact subsidized programs that pay far more for smarter black men to have more children. Over time this would have a positive effect on averages and likely only the West could afford this in such a way. My personal guess is that humanity will one day likely genetically manipulate almost every human GATTACA-style. We will either all become geniuses in thousands of years or lose this civilization and revert back to barbarism.
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(04-02-2018 09:36 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  You preface every single one of your posts about Muslims, blacks , and minorities by using the NAWALT argument. That's why I brought it up. And you always put a disclaimer by citing one of your high IQ friends as an exception to the rule. We're not that stupid that we can't read between the lines.
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Whites are required to preface every statement about non-whites with terms and phrases that soften the truths therein in order to buffer the fragile egos of non-whites, who have grown accustomed to being treated like fragile hothouse flowers when such topics are discussed.

When Zel or anyone else has to waste thousands of keystrokes adding "and I know this might vary on an individual basis" or some variation of that before and after every sentence when talking about race issues it's a not a marker of closet racism. It's a marker of what precious little sooks non-whites have become when discussing these issues.

But don't worry. I know that not all non-whites are like this and I for one have several non-white friends who can talk about these issues frankly and openly without taking everything personally.

I hate having to tell it like it is, but a bunch of members told me that whites have to focus on uncucking themselves rather than criticising others, so this is the end result.

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Israeli snipers kill 16 Palestinians, who were part of a peaceful march. Not a peep in the Western media.

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(04-02-2018 09:36 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  You preface every single one of your posts about Muslims, blacks , and minorities by using the NAWALT argument. That's why I brought it up. And you always put a disclaimer by citing one of your high IQ friends as an exception to the rule. We're not that stupid that we can't read between the lines. Just give it to us straight instead of going on and on about IQ- what do you want done about low IQ populations?


No matter what time period you ask this question, and no matter what geographic area you ask this question, there are only ever really four answers.

Assimilation, Deportation, Segregation, and Elimination (Concentration Camps and War).

Being a race-realist/IQ-realist just means that you don't believe Assimilation is possible. And only those rare few who are absolutely filled with Hatred and Resentment think Elimination is necessary.

That leaves Deportation, which requires a lot of work and Segregation, which requires hardly any work at all.

I am a Segregationist.

If America eliminated mandatory federal taxes for welfare programs AND eliminated laws protecting minorities from racial discrimination in housing and hiring, America would become a de facto Segregated country in less than fifty years.
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(04-04-2018 11:06 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Israeli snipers kill 16 Palestinians, who were part of a peaceful march. Not a peep in the Western media.

https://www.truthdig.com/videos/israel-m...ion-video/

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Are you a Muslim or an Antifa-member?

I saw pictures of the "peaceful protesters" using sling-shot weaponry and some even throwing molotov cocktails. The ones who got shot were going over the border. And hundreds more were right after them. If the first group would have made it, then it would have been a successful Camp of Saints siege of the border.

Also their position is that they want all the land back that was conquered by Muslims before and have all Jews disappear.

Europeans should do the same - fire at will at all ships and every shithead crossing the border, not give them asylum and then have them destroy each country.

Isreal does plenty of deplorable things, but defending your borders against aggressive Muslims who took the place by force before them anyway should be acceptable. I guess when they stormed Vienna and wanted to destroy modern Western civilization in the 17th century, then the Austrians and Polish were racist pigs too for battling them back?

The entire march wants the territories back that were "taken from them in 1948". Fine - I want the territories back that they took from Byzantine and from Persia some time before.
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I've asked Palestinians before on the Internet (at least, they claimed to be Palestinian) why they've never tried non-violent attempts to "take back their lands" like Gandhi and they told me that they did and it didn't work. I asked them what they did and didn't get a straight answer.

In my mind, I see 5,000 unarmed Palestinians lined up at the border, then linking arms and, as one, marching straight into the middle of Israel and chaining themselves to whatever building or structure happened to be handy. Of course, they would have had to have done that before they forced Israel to build a wall to defend itself from the constant terrorism.
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Peaceful Palestinian protest that demands a return of the borders before 1948 is an oxymoron.
One can also be doubtful of the account of the Israeli side. Most bullets fired seemed to have been rubber-coated steel casings and the ones who got live fire were getting very close to the fence.

Judging by the experience that everyone had with similar Muslim groups, then I doubt that they show much restraint.

I don't trust either side to provide a good account of what happened.
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Keep in mind that Israel has its fair share of violent nutjobs too: for example, the Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated by an Israeli extremist who was unhappy with the Oslo Accords.

Just one of the reasons why this conflict will never be resolved peacefully.

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