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(11-04-2017 08:07 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  
(10-31-2017 01:56 PM)911 Wrote:  What will US demographics look like 50 or 100 years from now?

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Texas and California, along with AZ and NM will be majority Hispanic states within 20-30 years.

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Other states like CO, UT, FL will follow the same pattern with a small lag. The US will have an open border policy, and with Latin America reaching a billion people, the 60 million-strong Hispanic population in the US will become the majority, followed by the Asian population. Americans of European descent will fall to third place behind Hispanics and Asians, possibly fourth behind African-Americans given the population explosion in sub-saharan Africa.

That is the basic nature of US migration, there is no point to freaking out about ISIS and the muzzies in the context of American demographics.


The hispanic immigration should make any black person's asshole pucker up for the future. That's the one group that will actually displace the current broader social positioning of blacks in the U.S. It's the one touchy subject that even liberal academics won't study...which is the intense minority on minority racism.

Even though the racial mix of the future U.S. may resemble Brazil it wont even be like Brazil where mulattoes and various mixed races can live within close proximity. There will be deep race, political, and class stratification across regions.

The latinos that come to the U.S. are overwhelmingly lower class Indios from central America or from Mexico where blacks make up a much smaller percentage of their provinces. This means they will come into racial and cultural conflict directly with blacks as you see on the west coast where black people were basically ethnically cleansed out of some neighborhoods.



Ok. Im not sure if those studies are in conjuncture with the current times because sure, Hispanics will be the majority but ONLY if the rate of mass immigration from Mexico continued which is not the case today. Immigration from Mexico into the U.S is net 0 which means that more Mexicans are actually leaving the US to go back to their homeland.

Mexicans aren't coming in mass droves like they used to in the 90s and early 00s. They also are not having as much kids as before. Still more than whites, but the days when Mexicans would pop out 10 kids each are long gone. Mexico's economy is getting better, and their society is changing. Going to "El Norte" is a thing of the past for many. Mexicans are over it.

Trump can say how bad NAFTA is all he wants but NAFTA actually helped Mexico become less of an agrarian/agricultural country to a more manufacturing and industrial country thus lowering immigration to the U.S. altogether.


https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/...ted-states

Quote:Mexico is also no longer the top origin country among the most recent immigrants to the United States. In 2013, China and India overtook Mexico as the most common countries of origin of immigrants who have resided in the United States for one year or less. Furthermore, more Mexican immigrants have returned to Mexico than have migrated to the United States since the end of the 2007-2009 Great Recession, according to a recent report from Pew Research Center. The decline in Mexican inflows results from a mix of factors including weakened job opportunities in the United States, tougher border enforcement, the long-term decline in Mexico’s birth rates, and the improving Mexican economy.


I think I know more about my peoples than someone like Ann Coulter who is white from the east coast who rambles on fake statistics and fake propaganda and fear monger Americans to sell books like how there's millions of illegals flooding the country daily to justify the border wall which is complete bullshit. To me NAFTA has actually helped curve immigration than a border wall can ever do.






Remember Obama? The deporter-in chief? He got blasted for by his own Hispanic base for deporting so many immigrants. Jorge Ramos made him squirm when he called him out on it.



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So it's incumbent upon Americans to set up trade agreements that screw them and to send manufacturing jobs south in order to provide Mexicans with a reason to stay home?

Wow. It's like a whole welfare nation. That's pretty pathetic.
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(03-31-2018 04:03 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(03-31-2018 02:58 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  Caravan of 1,500 Central American Migrant Families Crossing Mexico to Reach U.S. Border

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The group is reportedly made up of familes from Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras who are fleeing extreme poverty and gang violence
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This is what's amusing. They aren't fleeing an ideology like Islam or Communism. They aren't fleeing an ethnic cleansing like Middle-eastern Christians are, or a racial cleansing like Afrikaaners.

They are fleeing from their own people and the type of society that their own people inevitably create.

They are locusts looking for a fresh field of crops to strip clean.

Nothing more.

Access to white people is NOT a human right!

Take care of those titties for me.
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But access to Western living standard seems to be a human right nowadays. Not sharing it with anyone who demands it is racist.
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(04-01-2018 01:06 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  But access to Western living standard seems to be a human right nowadays. Not sharing it with anyone who demands it is racist.

They are also fleeing from being subjugated by the criminal gangs like MS-13 which their own government fails to protect them from. Do you think if there was no escape that they will actually form militias to fight back?
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(03-31-2018 02:58 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  [Image: Caravan--640x480.png]

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Time to unleash the secret weapon Trump!
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(04-01-2018 06:19 PM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  
(04-01-2018 01:06 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  But access to Western living standard seems to be a human right nowadays. Not sharing it with anyone who demands it is racist.

They are also fleeing from being subjugated by the criminal gangs like MS-13 which their own government fails to protect them from. Do you think if there was no escape that they will actually form militias to fight back?

MS13 is them.

Their government is them.

These are not alien entities that landed and disembarked from a spaceship.

They are them, and they will inevitably bring MS13 and full-retard socialista government with them. Their societies have revealed their character to toggle almost entirely between murderous savage, corrupt bureaucrat and lazy, long-suffering peasant. They are not "yearning to be free". They are yearning to attach themselves like barnacles to a society they could not create and will not maintain.

And the more of them that arrive the sooner the end of America will be hastened, which will in turn create a societal cataclysm that will have massive ramifications for everyone in the world, even hicks like me at the very bottom of it.
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(04-01-2018 06:19 PM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  
(04-01-2018 01:06 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  But access to Western living standard seems to be a human right nowadays. Not sharing it with anyone who demands it is racist.

They are also fleeing from being subjugated by the criminal gangs like MS-13 which their own government fails to protect them from. Do you think if there was no escape that they will actually form militias to fight back?

I hope they do, but if they don't that's not my problem.
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There's definitely been an uptick in the number of Muslims in Los Angeles. When I first came to LA over 10 years ago, I never saw any women wearing hijabs. I thought that was something I left behind in UK. I used to work in Luton in UK, and Luton is jihadi central.

Now I'll see one every time I go to the local shopping mall. Last week I saw a woman wearing a niqab (where you can only see the eyes) for the first time ever in LA. I think there will be a lot more where she came from.

As an aside, I go back to UK every year, and I seem to see more white British women wearing hijabs each year
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(04-01-2018 08:56 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(04-01-2018 06:19 PM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  
(04-01-2018 01:06 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  But access to Western living standard seems to be a human right nowadays. Not sharing it with anyone who demands it is racist.

They are also fleeing from being subjugated by the criminal gangs like MS-13 which their own government fails to protect them from. Do you think if there was no escape that they will actually form militias to fight back?

MS13 is them.

Their government is them.

These are not alien entities that landed and disembarked from a spaceship.

They are them, and they will inevitably bring MS13 and full-retard socialista government with them. Their societies have revealed their character to toggle almost entirely between murderous savage, corrupt bureaucrat and lazy, long-suffering peasant. They are not "yearning to be free". They are yearning to attach themselves like barnacles to a society they could not create and will not maintain.

And the more of them that arrive the sooner the end of America will be hastened, which will in turn create a societal cataclysm that will have massive ramifications for everyone in the world, even hicks like me at the very bottom of it.

True. What many people don't realize about the development of European, Chinese and Japanese culture is not that crime was not present. At times crime and brutality was rampant too. But the people making up those societies stamped those out whenever it was even humanly possible. This did not "just happen".

Criminal organisations like the Triads, the Yakuza, the Mafia - they all existed for a long time. But they existed with the underlying perception that they would not infringe on the rule of law too much - or otherwise the government and the people would crush it. Even in the Wild West this phenomenon was seen.

There is a reason why countries like Chile and Argentina are not anywhere near as violent as the ones further north. Even in the US you see this replicated as regions of identical socio-economic dysfunction have highly different crime statistics depending on the region and the ethnic makeup.
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(04-01-2018 06:19 PM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  
(04-01-2018 01:06 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  But access to Western living standard seems to be a human right nowadays. Not sharing it with anyone who demands it is racist.

They are also fleeing from being subjugated by the criminal gangs like MS-13 which their own government fails to protect them from. Do you think if there was no escape that they will actually form militias to fight back?

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Common leftist argument. Same goes for the sandbox and ISIS I suppose? Oh wait they already did that!

(04-01-2018 08:56 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  MS13 is them.

Their government is them.

These are not alien entities that landed and disembarked from a spaceship.

They are them, and they will inevitably bring MS13 and full-retard socialista government with them. Their societies have revealed their character to toggle almost entirely between murderous savage, corrupt bureaucrat and lazy, long-suffering peasant. They are not "yearning to be free". They are yearning to attach themselves like barnacles to a society they could not create and will not maintain.

And the more of them that arrive the sooner the end of America will be hastened, which will in turn create a societal cataclysm that will have massive ramifications for everyone in the world, even hicks like me at the very bottom of it.

Posts like these are like a hot knife through butter.
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More's the pity. I don't enjoy making posts like that.

Unfortunately we can choose to ignore reality but we cannot choose to ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.
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(04-02-2018 01:27 AM)kamoz Wrote:  
(04-01-2018 06:19 PM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  
(04-01-2018 01:06 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  But access to Western living standard seems to be a human right nowadays. Not sharing it with anyone who demands it is racist.

They are also fleeing from being subjugated by the criminal gangs like MS-13 which their own government fails to protect them from. Do you think if there was no escape that they will actually form militias to fight back?

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Common leftist argument. Same goes for the sandbox and ISIS I suppose? Oh wait they already did that!

(04-01-2018 08:56 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  MS13 is them.

Their government is them.

These are not alien entities that landed and disembarked from a spaceship.

They are them, and they will inevitably bring MS13 and full-retard socialista government with them. Their societies have revealed their character to toggle almost entirely between murderous savage, corrupt bureaucrat and lazy, long-suffering peasant. They are not "yearning to be free". They are yearning to attach themselves like barnacles to a society they could not create and will not maintain.

And the more of them that arrive the sooner the end of America will be hastened, which will in turn create a societal cataclysm that will have massive ramifications for everyone in the world, even hicks like me at the very bottom of it.

Posts like these are like a hot knife through butter.

Truth is truth. Which is why I am glad to be blessed with this forum. Otherwise all the information I manage come across in regards to this issue talks like that.

Accepting it is hard for me.

My fault for using google and not duckduckgo more. Also an indication on how gatekeepers of information keep people like us in the matrix. We are all products of our time after all.
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(04-02-2018 01:26 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  
(04-01-2018 08:56 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(04-01-2018 06:19 PM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  
(04-01-2018 01:06 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  But access to Western living standard seems to be a human right nowadays. Not sharing it with anyone who demands it is racist.

They are also fleeing from being subjugated by the criminal gangs like MS-13 which their own government fails to protect them from. Do you think if there was no escape that they will actually form militias to fight back?

MS13 is them.

Their government is them.

These are not alien entities that landed and disembarked from a spaceship.

They are them, and they will inevitably bring MS13 and full-retard socialista government with them. Their societies have revealed their character to toggle almost entirely between murderous savage, corrupt bureaucrat and lazy, long-suffering peasant. They are not "yearning to be free". They are yearning to attach themselves like barnacles to a society they could not create and will not maintain.

And the more of them that arrive the sooner the end of America will be hastened, which will in turn create a societal cataclysm that will have massive ramifications for everyone in the world, even hicks like me at the very bottom of it.

True. What many people don't realize about the development of European, Chinese and Japanese culture is not that crime was not present. At times crime and brutality was rampant too. But the people making up those societies stamped those out whenever it was even humanly possible. This did not "just happen".

Criminal organisations like the Triads, the Yakuza, the Mafia - they all existed for a long time. But they existed with the underlying perception that they would not infringe on the rule of law too much - or otherwise the government and the people would crush it. Even in the Wild West this phenomenon was seen.

There is a reason why countries like Chile and Argentina are not anywhere near as violent as the ones further north. Even in the US you see this replicated as regions of identical socio-economic dysfunction have highly different crime statistics depending on the region and the ethnic makeup.

What would it take to turn that around?
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(04-02-2018 07:49 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  What would it take to turn that around?

Tough question. IQs are too low in many of those countries. Chiles and Argentina are white dominated nations while Chile has been led by a shitlord and they attracted highly intelligent folk from different tribes in the last decades. For example - there is a large ex-Muslim contingent in Chile - somehow strangely most of them high-IQ intellectuals - total brain-drain once in Lebanon and Palestine.

For most countries - democracy would hardly work. You would need an authoritarian rule similar to Pinochet or better Singapore. Then probably an eugenics policy that pays highly intelligent folk for having lots of kids and pays poorer not-so-smart folk to sterilize permanently after having had 1-2. This could be done all without force.

Over time you would get a different more orderly society and would not need the authoritarian approach.

The cartels is another thing. The problem would get increasingly better as positive eugenics takes hold. You could do also something more revolutionary similar to what Netherlands has done.

You legalize cocaine and weed in your country, but tax it well. Use the tax revenue to fund positive eugenics and a fantastic militarized police force. In addition you would have lots of added tourism where everyone would flock and go on their cocaine and weed fueled holiday. Export of the merchandise would not be your problem.

But nothing is going to change in that respect. Reform is hard to execute, many people are loving the collectivist marxist approach - it's absolutely rampant at universities and even in everyday schools. My guess is that the majority of South American people still believe that a better socialized quasi-marxist state will work - the East Germans and Russians did it bad.
Also positive eugenics is hard to push through anywhere. China is already practicing it in reality, but no one is doing it actively due to the Germans giving it a bad name in the 1930s and 40s (and they did it in a forced measure as well).

Though even with all of that you have work to do and streamline the country as Chile and Argentina have some way to go before stabilizing in the fashion of European countries. But they can likely manage. It takes only one good leader and better setup. I am less optimistic about the rest - even with a good leader.

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So how close are these people now? This is a big shit test the US must pass.
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(04-02-2018 09:34 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  So how close are these people now? This is a big shit test the US must pass.

Israel passed its test last week:

Quote:Gaza shootings prevented a 'blood bath' say Israel military


https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east...4z7f8.html

Maybe Trump will hit Bibi up for some advice on this one.

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(04-02-2018 09:34 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  So how close are these people now? This is a big shit test the US must pass.

I would like to see Trump, using $$$ from the Omnibus, string up a temporary barrier using barbed wire. Much like the Italians used to seal the border between Libya and Egypt during their conquest of Libya (1920s).
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(04-01-2018 10:03 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  POTUS is clearly reading my posts on RVF!


"Caravans" coming.

In a way, this is a great thing. Trump's DACA compromise sucked ass, yet the Dems have overplayed their hand and now Trump is just saying "FUCK IT" and is getting ready for mass deportations.

He better, or he can kiss this country goodbye. The Dems are going for broke and want open borders and free citizenship for all, so now the only option is to just build the wall and deport them all. Trump needs to unleash the Spirit of Abraham Lincoln on the Dems if he wants to save America.

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(04-01-2018 11:08 AM)Pancho Wrote:  Hispanics will be the majority but ONLY if the rate of mass immigration from Mexico continued which is not the case today. Immigration from Mexico into the U.S is net 0 which means that more Mexicans are actually leaving the US to go back to their homeland.
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Mexicans aren't coming in mass droves like they used to in the 90s and early 00s. They also are not having as much kids as before. Still more than whites, but the days when Mexicans would pop out 10 kids each are long gone. Mexico's economy is getting better, and their society is changing. Going to "El Norte" is a thing of the past for many. Mexicans are over it.

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A) Why should we trust the government that has lied about several wars, global warming, bank bailouts and many other things to provide accurate stats regarding the net migration from Mexico?

B) Are you really making assumptions about the details of a lifestyle of an illegal and by default poorly registered population? They no longer have 10 kids... says who? They're over it... proven by what exactly?

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(03-31-2018 02:58 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  [Image: Caravan--640x480.png]

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I guess we will see just how uncucked americans are now.
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(04-01-2018 08:56 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  MS13 is them.

Their government is them.

These are not alien entities that landed and disembarked from a spaceship.

Good post. A bit off topic but the same analogy can be applied to Western countries and their governments. We always complain about "the swamp". Well, where did the people in the swamp come from? They went to Western schools, universities, churches etc. They are the public. The public is the swamp.

Which is why I don't vote. Laugh
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(04-01-2018 08:56 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  MS13 is them.

Their government is them.

These are not alien entities that landed and disembarked from a spaceship.

Good post. A bit off topic but the same analogy can be applied to Western countries and their governments. We always complain about "the swamp". Well, where did the people in the swamp come from? They went to Western schools, universities, churches etc. They are the public. The public is the swamp.

Which is why I don't vote. Laugh

This is absolutely true.

We have a sickness, not just in America but in all white majority nations. In places like the EU it's particularly pronounced. I have a tendency to think that too many masculine bloodlines died out in the two world wars (and the others besides) and we have been left with an untenable mix of parasitic connivers and gutless sheep.

Only a catastrophic die-off of the unworthy will right the ship at this point.
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RE: Migrant Invasion of USA
This whole Southern Invasion was part of Mexico's plan all along in NAFTA negotiations.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/201...ore-147638

"In August of 2017 President Trump and Commerce Secretary Ross were discussing their trade efforts within NAFTA and renegotiation with Mexico/Canada on a trilateral basis. However, the U.S. administration said if it doesn’t work, they’d scrap the 3-way NAFTA deal and go one-on-one with individual bilateral agreements. In response, Mexican Economic Minister Ildefonso Guajardo threatened to flood the U.S. with South American illegal aliens, criminals and gang members as leverage:

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) – Mexico could pull back on cooperation in migration and security matters if the United States walks away from talks to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement, the Mexican economy minister said in a newspaper report published on Thursday.

“If they do not treat [us] well commercially, they should not expect us to treat them well by containing the migration that comes from other regions of the world and crosses Mexico,” Guajardo said. “Or they should not expect to be treated well in collaboration with security issues in the region.”

Here is Mexico’s former foreign minister, Jorge Castaneda, talking about how the Mexican government was willing to counter Trump's policies and NAFTA re-negotiations by unleashing drug cartels upon the U.S. border and flooding the US with drugs and gangs, since it's "not their problem".



I wish I could rep LDN again for his brilliant posts. He's right on point when he says MS13 IS them. Literally

This Barbarian Horde is assuredly reinforcements for MS13, after many of them have been apprehended and wiped out in Trump's 1st year.


Caravan of Illegal Migrants Marching to US Border Looks More Like Army of Young Male Invaders (VIDEO)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/04/...ers-video/

And now with Bernie Chavez aka AMLO winning in the Presidente polls, they will be the next Venezuela in a few years. The WALL can't come soon enough.
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RE: Migrant Invasion of USA
(04-03-2018 06:11 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(04-02-2018 11:21 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  
(04-01-2018 08:56 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  MS13 is them.

Their government is them.

These are not alien entities that landed and disembarked from a spaceship.

Good post. A bit off topic but the same analogy can be applied to Western countries and their governments. We always complain about "the swamp". Well, where did the people in the swamp come from? They went to Western schools, universities, churches etc. They are the public. The public is the swamp.

Which is why I don't vote. Laugh

This is absolutely true.

We have a sickness, not just in America but in all white majority nations. In places like the EU it's particularly pronounced. I have a tendency to think that too many masculine bloodlines died out in the two world wars (and the others besides) and we have been left with an untenable mix of parasitic connivers and gutless sheep.

Only a catastrophic die-off of the unworthy will right the ship at this point.

Nah - every country can be taken over by a hostile elite and be destroyed from within.

But Tigermandingo is right that the people are sometimes not fully responsible for everything that happens to their countries. The Eastern Germans and the North Koreans are such examples. Still - when the economic model is free enough and the democratic principles are somehow available, then you have to take responsibility of the gross output. The people of Venezuela voted in a known communist at levels above 50% when it was 100% clear that this shit would not work. Even in the worst times of Europe hardly more than 20-25% supported communism - and this was when the very same people witnessed child-labor in mines that killed them before they turned 18.

You have to take into account the basic abilities of each tribe. Does it take 200 years to bamboozle them like the West or does it take 8 years like in many South American countries?
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