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I see a lot of guys that are in the beginner phase reading business books.

My advice if you are first starting is, don't.

Instead, start making a list of business models, and start finding information relating specifically to those business models.

Specific information for a specific business model is what you need (examples of a business model are a Facebook ads consultant/agency, an e commerce store owner, a dog walker etc.).

Once you have researched a few different business models, narrow your choice down to one or two - and start going deeper into them.

The next step after that is to get your first client or first bit of business (start small) and go from there.

You can get lost for months and years reading stuff that is too general when you first start. Instead, go specific.
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(12-25-2018 10:26 PM)fktax Wrote:  
(12-25-2018 01:52 PM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  I'm going to hit the affiliate marketing and freelance copywriting hard in 2019. I don't want another job unless I absolutely have to get one.

What does this involve? Building content websites and earning income from businesses like Amazon and Ebay?

Sort of, but think driving traffic to pages advertising Clickbank offers.

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Guys, I tried searching for this on here but no luck.

Anyone recommend an easy way to send money from China to the United Kingdom without having to pay fees or at least limited ones.

I am talking about transactions between £200-1000.

Any help would be appreciated.
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(01-10-2019 06:01 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  Guys, I tried searching for this on here but no luck.

Anyone recommend an easy way to send money from China to the United Kingdom without having to pay fees or at least limited ones.

I am talking about transactions between £200-1000.

Any help would be appreciated.

If you can use apps then maybe this list might help:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/best...sfer-apps/

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I went "Self Employed" a few months ago.
It is a small family owned company, which is used by my parents for consulting (we do tech consulting for various entities). My father has asked me in the past to join, but I felt I needed to have better skills and network for this to happen.

I'm cashing unemployment checks (as I'm eligible) and started bringing money to the company from "day 1". The main problem so far is "buyers credit" (in B2B you get payed here within 30 to 90 days from the date you send the bill, which is at the end of the month you worked).
I still have FYF (F*&k You Fund), so money is less of an issue.

In the first 4 months I found myself having a lot of spare time. I did other things (read tons of books), but also did BizDev activities. Last month I secured a 6-month consulting gig that would my total H1/2019 revenues to 100K$.
Sounds good, right?

However, I found myself in a "time shortage" situation. I needed ~20% more work time to be able to deal with all my projects. I was starting to feel the pressure - I lost my will to approach girls, was constantly "fearing" phone calls and almost decided to "throw back the big fish". I also had a crisis in one of my first projects that was semi-attributed to me. That sure did not help. I also forsaken any thoughts of business development.

Then it hit me. I'm not using the right attitude.

Told myself, that I need to invest sometime to catch up, and if it doesn't work I can be honest with myself that I actually tried. Freed last weekend and worked through it. Took a break for my plates (currently spinning 2 mLTRs) but put in something like 16 hours on it (Friday and Saturday combined). Started using alarm clock set to 6:15AM and engaged work from 7:00AM onward.

It did the trick.

The weekend emails, the early and late emails proved to the new customer that I was making progress. I also have seemed to over estimate what I needed to do. Now I'm done with the first stage. Moving on next week to the second. Customer trust improved and no one is thinking about letting me go. I also (based on advise) came over more to be noticed (even if it was for 1 hour) - driving 45 minutes each direction.
As per the crisis, it was resolved and the blame was shifted from me to a "more accurate place".

Bad times are over. For now.
I have more confidence that I can succeed. I may not, but only time will tell.

Moral of the story:
Don't give up just yet. You might be able to push through it.
And - optics is important. Keep that in mind.

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(01-10-2019 09:15 AM)TheMaleBrain Wrote:  I went "Self Employed" a few months ago.
It is a small family owned company, which is used by my parents for consulting (we do tech consulting for various entities). My father has asked me in the past to join, but I felt I needed to have better skills and network for this to happen.

I'm cashing unemployment checks (as I'm eligible) and started bringing money to the company from "day 1". The main problem so far is "buyers credit" (in B2B you get payed here within 30 to 90 days from the date you send the bill, which is at the end of the month you worked).
I still have FYF (F*&k You Fund), so money is less of an issue.

In the first 4 months I found myself having a lot of spare time. I did other things (read tons of books), but also did BizDev activities. Last month I secured a 6-month consulting gig that would my total H1/2019 revenues to 100K$.
Sounds good, right?

However, I found myself in a "time shortage" situation. I needed ~20% more work time to be able to deal with all my projects. I was starting to feel the pressure - I lost my will to approach girls, was constantly "fearing" phone calls and almost decided to "throw back the big fish". I also had a crisis in one of my first projects that was semi-attributed to me. That sure did not help. I also forsaken any thoughts of business development.

Then it hit me. I'm not using the right attitude.

Told myself, that I need to invest sometime to catch up, and if it doesn't work I can be honest with myself that I actually tried. Freed last weekend and worked through it. Took a break for my plates (currently spinning 2 mLTRs) but put in something like 16 hours on it (Friday and Saturday combined). Started using alarm clock set to 6:15AM and engaged work from 7:00AM onward.

It did the trick.

The weekend emails, the early and late emails proved to the new customer that I was making progress. I also have seemed to over estimate what I needed to do. Now I'm done with the first stage. Moving on next week to the second. Customer trust improved and no one is thinking about letting me go. I also (based on advise) came over more to be noticed (even if it was for 1 hour) - driving 45 minutes each direction.
As per the crisis, it was resolved and the blame was shifted from me to a "more accurate place".

Bad times are over. For now.
I have more confidence that I can succeed. I may not, but only time will tell.

Moral of the story:
Don't give up just yet. You might be able to push through it.
And - optics is important. Keep that in mind.



I know exactly what you mean. The initial resistance is the hardest to overcome. But once you're 'in the zone' then that's the 20% of effort that provides 80% of gain.

I've had a good start to the year. Took the chance while the weather was good to do a large job with three guys and four machines. Reckon I've made about £5-6k profit this week after wages, diesel and machine costs due mainly to working smart.

But yet again I am still on site all the time making sure everything runs as it should...

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Is there someone working here with Instragram influencers to promote their online e-commerce business? I paid now 80 dollar for an IG influencer in my niche with over 100 k followers. I'd checked her conversion rate and checked whether she has real followers. What more can I do? I can't imagine it will be profitable working with IG influencers. Someone who has experience with this? Almost all of them only accept a fixed price, I offered a % of the sales but they almost all refuse.
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(01-10-2019 03:05 PM)SpursFan741 Wrote:  Is there someone working here with Instragram influencers to promote their online e-commerce business? I paid now 80 dollar for an IG influencer in my niche with over 100 k followers. I'd checked her conversion rate and checked whether she has real followers. What more can I do? I can't imagine it will be profitable working with IG influencers. Someone who has experience with this? Almost all of them only accept a fixed price, I offered a % of the sales but they almost all refuse.

You can check their comments...if it is usually is from a comment group with other like minded people not from actual potential customers then it is a waste of money...I have also offered sales commission on actual sales via a coupon code but most also refuse.

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(01-10-2019 05:05 PM)rishboy77 Wrote:  
(01-10-2019 03:05 PM)SpursFan741 Wrote:  Is there someone working here with Instragram influencers to promote their online e-commerce business? I paid now 80 dollar for an IG influencer in my niche with over 100 k followers. I'd checked her conversion rate and checked whether she has real followers. What more can I do? I can't imagine it will be profitable working with IG influencers. Someone who has experience with this? Almost all of them only accept a fixed price, I offered a % of the sales but they almost all refuse.

You can check their comments...if it is usually is from a comment group with other like minded people not from actual potential customers then it is a waste of money...I have also offered sales commission on actual sales via a coupon code but most also refuse.

About 60% of the comments are from fellow influencers / bloggers , the other 40% seem to be normal people. But I still paid 80$ for 1 day story ( she has about 110k followers). My first and last time I work with IG influencers I think
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I waited too long to have a real discussion (and make an offer) to buy out one of my partners so another quarter passed and now the business is worth more money.

Offered what I should have offered last quarter.

Didn't hear back.

Gave him time.

Didn't hear back.

Reached back out, he immediately countered with a number 25% higher than I wanted to pay and said he wanted to ask more but in the interest of moving forward he was making this offer. Fuck.

Thought about it. Frustrated. Admitted to myself it's my fault. Recognized that it's still really good value (worth 1.5 to 3 times what I'd be paying).

Bit the bullet, swallowed my pride and shook hands on it. Only minutes after I felt a sense of relief, because I made the right decision. The decision I actually could make, not the one I COULD HAVE made. No new partners and I still am getting a solidly worthwhile investment. Win-win.

Drawing up the paperwork and then we'll celebrate.

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(01-10-2019 09:15 AM)TheMaleBrain Wrote:  I went "Self Employed" a few months ago.
It is a small family owned company, which is used by my parents for consulting (we do tech consulting for various entities). My father has asked me in the past to join, but I felt I needed to have better skills and network for this to happen.

I'm cashing unemployment checks (as I'm eligible) and started bringing money to the company from "day 1". The main problem so far is "buyers credit" (in B2B you get payed here within 30 to 90 days from the date you send the bill, which is at the end of the month you worked).
I still have FYF (F*&k You Fund), so money is less of an issue.

In the first 4 months I found myself having a lot of spare time. I did other things (read tons of books), but also did BizDev activities. Last month I secured a 6-month consulting gig that would my total H1/2019 revenues to 100K$.
Sounds good, right?

However, I found myself in a "time shortage" situation. I needed ~20% more work time to be able to deal with all my projects. I was starting to feel the pressure - I lost my will to approach girls, was constantly "fearing" phone calls and almost decided to "throw back the big fish". I also had a crisis in one of my first projects that was semi-attributed to me. That sure did not help. I also forsaken any thoughts of business development.

Then it hit me. I'm not using the right attitude.

Told myself, that I need to invest sometime to catch up, and if it doesn't work I can be honest with myself that I actually tried. Freed last weekend and worked through it. Took a break for my plates (currently spinning 2 mLTRs) but put in something like 16 hours on it (Friday and Saturday combined). Started using alarm clock set to 6:15AM and engaged work from 7:00AM onward.

It did the trick.

The weekend emails, the early and late emails proved to the new customer that I was making progress. I also have seemed to over estimate what I needed to do. Now I'm done with the first stage. Moving on next week to the second. Customer trust improved and no one is thinking about letting me go. I also (based on advise) came over more to be noticed (even if it was for 1 hour) - driving 45 minutes each direction.
As per the crisis, it was resolved and the blame was shifted from me to a "more accurate place".

Bad times are over. For now.
I have more confidence that I can succeed. I may not, but only time will tell.

Moral of the story:
Don't give up just yet. You might be able to push through it.
And - optics is important. Keep that in mind.

It sounds like the 'big thing' is to make sure you are communicating with the customers so they know what is going on, even if you are having problems. A constant complaint from almost all customers, no matter the industry, is that their vendor goes silent and they have no idea if any work is being done or not. Customers will understand and forgive if there are problems at times, AS LONG AS THEY ARE TOLD WHAT IS GOING ON. A lot of times no one really knows how long something should take because it is the first time it is being done, or something unexpected came up that no one knew about or could have foreseen.
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This is super solid advice!

I also had a lot of trouble with deliveries due to the holiday season but kept customers in the loop and it helped greatly.

People are a lot more understanding if you are up front about what’s going on

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(01-10-2019 07:51 PM)EvanWilson Wrote:  
(01-10-2019 09:15 AM)TheMaleBrain Wrote:  I went "Self Employed" a few months ago.
It is a small family owned company, which is used by my parents for consulting (we do tech consulting for various entities). My father has asked me in the past to join, but I felt I needed to have better skills and network for this to happen.

I'm cashing unemployment checks (as I'm eligible) and started bringing money to the company from "day 1". The main problem so far is "buyers credit" (in B2B you get payed here within 30 to 90 days from the date you send the bill, which is at the end of the month you worked).
I still have FYF (F*&k You Fund), so money is less of an issue.

In the first 4 months I found myself having a lot of spare time. I did other things (read tons of books), but also did BizDev activities. Last month I secured a 6-month consulting gig that would my total H1/2019 revenues to 100K$.
Sounds good, right?

However, I found myself in a "time shortage" situation. I needed ~20% more work time to be able to deal with all my projects. I was starting to feel the pressure - I lost my will to approach girls, was constantly "fearing" phone calls and almost decided to "throw back the big fish". I also had a crisis in one of my first projects that was semi-attributed to me. That sure did not help. I also forsaken any thoughts of business development.

Then it hit me. I'm not using the right attitude.

Told myself, that I need to invest sometime to catch up, and if it doesn't work I can be honest with myself that I actually tried. Freed last weekend and worked through it. Took a break for my plates (currently spinning 2 mLTRs) but put in something like 16 hours on it (Friday and Saturday combined). Started using alarm clock set to 6:15AM and engaged work from 7:00AM onward.

It did the trick.

The weekend emails, the early and late emails proved to the new customer that I was making progress. I also have seemed to over estimate what I needed to do. Now I'm done with the first stage. Moving on next week to the second. Customer trust improved and no one is thinking about letting me go. I also (based on advise) came over more to be noticed (even if it was for 1 hour) - driving 45 minutes each direction.
As per the crisis, it was resolved and the blame was shifted from me to a "more accurate place".

Bad times are over. For now.
I have more confidence that I can succeed. I may not, but only time will tell.

Moral of the story:
Don't give up just yet. You might be able to push through it.
And - optics is important. Keep that in mind.

It sounds like the 'big thing' is to make sure you are communicating with the customers so they know what is going on, even if you are having problems. A constant complaint from almost all customers, no matter the industry, is that their vendor goes silent and they have no idea if any work is being done or not. Customers will understand and forgive if there are problems at times, AS LONG AS THEY ARE TOLD WHAT IS GOING ON. A lot of times no one really knows how long something should take because it is the first time it is being done, or something unexpected came up that no one knew about or could have foreseen.

The thing is, I was communicating on a 2-3 times a week basis. Moved to almost every day.
Sounds funny, but true.

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(01-10-2019 07:51 PM)EvanWilson Wrote:  
(01-10-2019 09:15 AM)TheMaleBrain Wrote:  I went "Self Employed" a few months ago.
It is a small family owned company, which is used by my parents for consulting (we do tech consulting for various entities). My father has asked me in the past to join, but I felt I needed to have better skills and network for this to happen.

I'm cashing unemployment checks (as I'm eligible) and started bringing money to the company from "day 1". The main problem so far is "buyers credit" (in B2B you get payed here within 30 to 90 days from the date you send the bill, which is at the end of the month you worked).
I still have FYF (F*&k You Fund), so money is less of an issue.

In the first 4 months I found myself having a lot of spare time. I did other things (read tons of books), but also did BizDev activities. Last month I secured a 6-month consulting gig that would my total H1/2019 revenues to 100K$.
Sounds good, right?

However, I found myself in a "time shortage" situation. I needed ~20% more work time to be able to deal with all my projects. I was starting to feel the pressure - I lost my will to approach girls, was constantly "fearing" phone calls and almost decided to "throw back the big fish". I also had a crisis in one of my first projects that was semi-attributed to me. That sure did not help. I also forsaken any thoughts of business development.

Then it hit me. I'm not using the right attitude.

Told myself, that I need to invest sometime to catch up, and if it doesn't work I can be honest with myself that I actually tried. Freed last weekend and worked through it. Took a break for my plates (currently spinning 2 mLTRs) but put in something like 16 hours on it (Friday and Saturday combined). Started using alarm clock set to 6:15AM and engaged work from 7:00AM onward.

It did the trick.

The weekend emails, the early and late emails proved to the new customer that I was making progress. I also have seemed to over estimate what I needed to do. Now I'm done with the first stage. Moving on next week to the second. Customer trust improved and no one is thinking about letting me go. I also (based on advise) came over more to be noticed (even if it was for 1 hour) - driving 45 minutes each direction.
As per the crisis, it was resolved and the blame was shifted from me to a "more accurate place".

Bad times are over. For now.
I have more confidence that I can succeed. I may not, but only time will tell.

Moral of the story:
Don't give up just yet. You might be able to push through it.
And - optics is important. Keep that in mind.

It sounds like the 'big thing' is to make sure you are communicating with the customers so they know what is going on, even if you are having problems. A constant complaint from almost all customers, no matter the industry, is that their vendor goes silent and they have no idea if any work is being done or not. Customers will understand and forgive if there are problems at times, AS LONG AS THEY ARE TOLD WHAT IS GOING ON. A lot of times no one really knows how long something should take because it is the first time it is being done, or something unexpected came up that no one knew about or could have foreseen.

Solid advice. Someone wiser than me once said an informer customer isn’t necessarily happier but at least he knows what is happenings.

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As it comes to POD, how do you guys approach copyright?
I found a topic, that could is total niche in my country (I want to start local eshop) and stuff I would like to print is basically whatever I google and find interesting. I am talking about posters and or printing on painting cloth to hang on the wall at home.

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