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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
(04-21-2016 03:46 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  
(04-21-2016 03:22 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  When you can show that a child with different hair color or skin tone causes a father to love his biological son less, or how having a wife and mother of a different race is "irresponsible", then there will be a discussion worth having.

For the sake of the argument, what race are you?

If you are unmixed, I would ask if you've ever knocked up a girl of another race?

I offer that you won't know how you feel about it, or even how to perceive the situation when you observe it for others, until that happens. Everything is wildly theoretical until that happens. You'll then perceive the world differently, either further toward your current feelings or further toward what A to D is offering. But you won't know until it happens. Reality has a unique way of clarifying hypothetical family and social situations.

I'm white with green eyes, European descent.

I'll probably impregnate an Asian some day.

I sure sure hope I can love my son.

I mean with his black hair and slanty eyes I may want to throw him in a river, after which I'll check myself into the Cuck Institute tard

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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
If there is one story that will light the fire under Americans, it is race.

On one hand you have people saying he is a cuck, which he is. Looking at the picture its obvious she hardly, if ever has sex with him and he shies away from the issue.

She has black worship written all over her face and I bet she has had a few black pain trains run through her and sought some provider afterwards.

Then you have the black vocal attention whores decrying how these children won't be brought up to acknowledge black heritage. What black heritage would that be? That many black fathers don't stick around? That many black youths fall by the wayside and into gang culture? Laugh

Fucking hilarious. If you want black culture you need to step foot into Africa, Jamaica, the Carribean and other countries black people descended from.


Two idiotic trains of thought. White guilt and those who think its racist for white folk to raise black kids.
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I'm mixed. Hispanic and Black. As far as I know, my father doesn't harbor any hatred for me and my siblings because we're not phenotypically close to him. I can understand if you accidentally impregnate a woman of another race, but if you want it to happen, then why would you love your kid(s) any less?
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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
(04-21-2016 04:07 PM)game_ethic Wrote:  I'm mixed. Hispanic and Black. As far as I know, my father doesn't harbor any hatred for me and my siblings because we're not phenotypically close to him. I can understand if you accidentally impregnate a woman of another race, but if you want it to happen, then why would you love your kid(s) any less?


America is part of the new world like Canada or Brazil where ethnicity might not mean much. Puerto Ricans are tri-racial. Part Conquistador Spanish, part Taino Indian and half black. African Americans are a mix of blacks from all over West, South-West & central Africa with no strong identity. But in many other places in the old world ( Europe, Africa and Asia) ... your blood is a huge part of your identity.

One of my best friends in college was a Korean-American guy who fell in love with a Japanese chick & dated her for 5 years. Despite being madly in love with each other, he decided to end it because marrying a Jap as a Korean was not acceptable to him.

The kids would look pretty much the same but what a lot of you American and Canadian guys don't understand is that in the old world ... culture matters. It's got NOTHING to do with racism.

In my case it's more about raising a kid that looks like me more so than the culture but unless you come from old world cultures like those in Europe, India, China, Japan, Ethiopia or Iran ... it's really hard to understand.
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I thought Evangelicals don't believe in anything ungodlike and artificial.

You know things like Birth Control, Condoms, sex outside of marriage, etc.

Oh and this thing called IN-VITRO FERTILIZATION.

That's not natural and doctors are playing god.

Quote:We were also trying at the time to conceive naturally.

Quote:We did this with the deeply held conviction that if the Lord wanted us to have a fully Caucasian child my wife would conceive naturally.

Quote:We were deeply moved by the idea of adding more children to our family by rescuing these tiny lives created from in-vitro fertilization, and intrigued by the thought of Rachel getting to experience pregnancy.

NO, the "Lord" didn't want your wife to have fucking kids naturally, otherwise you would've been able to conceive naturally.

How the fuck do you decide to give birth by having a wild hair up your ass one morning and saying "Babe, wouldn't it be SOOO COOOL if you got pregnant?"

He was "intrigued" - a fucking girl uses that goddamn term.

This guy is a pure faggot in my eyes. Fuck him.


For fucks sake my post doesn't even begin to touch on race, and I'm not going to even bring that shit up.

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I'll bet when they want their next round of black kids the wife opts for the "natural" route.
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There are lots of guys like this in "Jesus is my boy- and best friend" churches across Canada and the US. In looks, attitude, SJWism, and mental weakness.
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(04-21-2016 03:52 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  
(04-21-2016 03:46 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  
(04-21-2016 03:22 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  When you can show that a child with different hair color or skin tone causes a father to love his biological son less, or how having a wife and mother of a different race is "irresponsible", then there will be a discussion worth having.

For the sake of the argument, what race are you?

If you are unmixed, I would ask if you've ever knocked up a girl of another race?

I offer that you won't know how you feel about it, or even how to perceive the situation when you observe it for others, until that happens. Everything is wildly theoretical until that happens. You'll then perceive the world differently, either further toward your current feelings or further toward what A to D is offering. But you won't know until it happens. Reality has a unique way of clarifying hypothetical family and social situations.

I'm white with green eyes, European descent.

I'll probably impregnate an Asian some day.

I sure sure hope I can love my son.

I mean with his black hair and slanty eyes I may want to throw him in a river, after which I'll check myself into the Cuck Institute tard

I know half-breed Asian-Caucasian mixes. Most of the guys have a socially hard time in one way or another. This says nothing about their quality of person, only that they were born into a socially difficult life. Girls tend to have an easier time.

Like I said, you won't know until it occurs. Best of luck. I have an affinity for Asians, as people, myself.
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(04-21-2016 04:07 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  If there is one story that will light the fire under Americans, it is race.

On one hand you have people saying he is a cuck, which he is. Looking at the picture its obvious she hardly, if ever has sex with him and he shies away from the issue.

She has black worship written all over her face and I bet she has had a few black pain trains run through her and sought some provider afterwards.

Then you have the black vocal attention whores decrying how these children won't be brought up to acknowledge black heritage. What black heritage would that be? That many black fathers don't stick around? That many black youths fall by the wayside and into gang culture? Laugh

Fucking hilarious. If you want black culture you need to step foot into Africa, Jamaica, the Carribean and other countries black people descended from.


Two idiotic trains of thought. White guilt and those who think its racist for white folk to raise black kids.


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Point out to me black American culture ^
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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
I'm not sure what to think between Globalman and Anabasis to Desta.

Allow me to elaborate.

On one hand, I used to not really think about what my children should look like. Yet, more and more I increasingly feel the desire for my children to definitely look like me when they are born. I've seen a lot of mixed race people in my life health issues of some sort or another - mostly minor issue with skin (breaking out all the time, for example) and can't help but wonder if that's a thing and if it is, I don't want that for my children. Secondly, I'm a third culture kid. While it may appear on its face that marrying a woman from a different culture than my own is not a huge issue (as I don't really have a culture), there's more than meets the eye. In Europe and other foreign countries, I make sense as an American. When I act different or what might be considered strangely, the average person thinks little of it more than "Oh, he's American and they act that way." I'm already slightly socially awkward and in the US, the lack of 'cultural solidarity' (for lack of better term) I have with my fellow Americans only exacerbates the awkwardness. I don't make sense. To me it looks like I appear to be "a weird American" or people might otherwise wonder what's wrong with me.

That lesson is not lost to me on the power of having a group and culture to belong to. I used to say my entire life that I've never had a home, as I've lived in 4 different countries, moved home 14 different times, and changed school 10 different times. The closest I got to home is where I first lived and my third to last house because I lived in those places longest. My entire life I've wanted to be normal, to belong. Not too long ago, I accepted that might not happen for a while, if ever. You could say I've embraced it, to an extent. But now I work in a job where having a common culture, being on the same page and team is extremely important and it's difficult.

What I am saying is that, I think hydro is right:

Quote:Except that "caste", as Anabasis uses it, is largely an involuntary social reaction and political consequence of this type of broader mixing. In other words, the kid would not look White nor Asian, for instance, and thus would not be wholly accepted by either society. As a result, the kid will find no sociopolitical group to which to belong. Thus, the category of "half-caste". Just ask half-breed Japanese what it is like to live in Japanese society, or mixed Caucasian-Asians on how they fare in the West. It's not good; overt rejection aside.

Intra-European mixing is also somewhat of a sociopolitical issue, but not as much because the mixing occurs within slightly differing breeds of the same race - not between two entirely different races. The kid can blend in and has a high chance of exhibiting mostly the phenotype of one of the breeds (Polish, German, etc.) as well as, perhaps, most of the cognitive-emotional traits of one of these breeds. He will have a society and political group to which he can wholly belong.

On the other hand, my first priority to my children, I think, is give them the best mother (including her being the best wife to me she could be) they could have. While I admit I have not yet looked too hard, it seems that Western white women, specifically American who supposedly are most similarly, culturally to me, or English women, hardly look like good choices at all as mothers of my children, let alone wives of mine.

I've been with 23 women. Four women strike me as definitely wife and mother material - two German girls, one girl from El Salvador, and one Turkish girl. Other honorable mentions - one Russian girl who was adopted by an American woman who's a thought criminal like myself and one I think Indian or Pakistani, second-generation girl. And a surprising amount of young, attractive muslim girls I've talked with appear to have good potential too.

So I can't rule out that I might one day bear children to woman not of my own race, like Globalman.

Ultimately, in regards to this issue, I am mixed*!

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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
(04-21-2016 05:38 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Point out to me black American culture ^

^ I'll be the first to point out that African-American culture ON AVERAGE is fucked, pathetic, sad and in desperate need of reform.

What does have to do anything with black people as a race? Why would you call it "Black culture"? African immigrants to the US are the most educated and highest earning immigrant group in America more so than Asians and even upper class whites. Black students and Professors at Ivy league schools are disproportionately Nigerian and Ghanaian.

I want you to understand what you said ... just substituting black for white.

"What white heritage would that be? That many white men do meth, fuck their own sisters and enjoy becoming omega bronies? Fucking hilarious if you want white culture then step foot into Appalachia, some trailer park in Alabama or alcoholic rural Ukraine "

Does that sound like a comment worthy of this forum to you?

Get the fuck outta' here nigga. Pronto.
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A semi-related thought popped into my head after re-reading this. I found myself thinking "Well, at least she had kids."

Because as abnormal as all of this is, I think it's actually more normal than the hoards of single women who don't raise kids at all, but instead have "furbabies." This is not a comment in praise of the couple, but in astonishment as to how messed up our society has become.
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(04-21-2016 03:04 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  
(04-21-2016 02:54 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  Could you love them the same?

And it's got nothing to do with race. As a man it's natural to want your children to look like you and seek out women who ensure that outcome for marriage.

This is a good question. Do you think Brad Pitt loves Maddox as much as Shiloh?


I have seen this kind of situation firsthand in numerous cases, and I'd say absolutely not. A natural born child has a far more powerful pull on the heart than any adopted child on average.

"You're more of a son to me than my own biological son" = rare

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I had to look up the whole Maddox vs Shiloh thing. As far as I can tell, Brad has three git off Angelina, which I didn't realize. They're famous for copying Madonna in adopting third world refugees, so I didn't realize they also have three children with super elite genetics. It will be interesting to see which of the children are super accomplished vs having drug problems and bastard children off scumbag losers.

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The reason why you want your children to look like you is, first, foremost and only, to be sure they're yours. If they look nothing like you but look astonishingly like your milkman or the black dude who cleans your pool.... it might just not be yours.
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(04-21-2016 11:26 AM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  Said it before ... I seriously have no clue how it is possible for a man to raise a kid that doesn't look like him. This goes for cuckolds like this and even guys having kids with a woman of a different race. Can't imagine raising a half-white or half-asian baby.

Would probably throw it into a river or something.

Edit: Not surprised ... looks like cuck & a Ted Cruz Voter.

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Deep set eye sockets; they probably have high IQs. Just imagine, their own children could have grown up to cure cancer or colonize the moon.

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^ Meaning what?

The black kids will not be intelligent enough to explore the moon or cure cancer? Good. The racists are coming out in droves in this thread. Taking serious mental notes.

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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
(04-21-2016 11:26 AM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  Said it before ... I seriously have no clue how it is possible for a man to raise a kid that doesn't look like him. This goes for cuckolds like this and even guys having kids with a woman of a different race. Can't imagine raising a half-white or half-asian baby.

Would probably throw it into a river or something.

Cuckolding and interracial unions are now one in the same.

I do believe I've heard it all now.

In any case, this has come up before. In another thread, you said this:

(12-16-2015 01:49 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  Surprised you guys are even considering mixed kids. Slay all that White, Asian, Latina, Middle eastern pussy you want. But breed with your own. I will never breed with a non-Ethiopian girl. I have no interest in raising a kid that does not look like me.

I'm not keen to re-invent the wheel, so I'll just re-post my response to this statement from the old thread since it is on topic here and my feelings haven't changed. This explains why I believe that the arguments against IR children proposed in this thread do not have merit and will not guide my mate choice.

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I'll explain.

1. I like all kinds of women. This is a bit of a simple point, but it means that I'm strongly compelled to get with quality women of all types. If I see a quality woman and I have any chance to get at her, I'll do it and I'll want to breed her as well if she's good enough because that's my natural instinct. This desire is the same whether this quality woman looks just like me (dark skin, naturally kinky hair) or doesn't - I can't help that, and I see little reason to do so.

2. Were I to choose only to "breed with my own", I'd end up with a Jamaican girl, not merely a black one.

This means I could end up with a girl who looks like this, this, this, this, this, or even this - they're all "my own", born and raised in the culture of my ancestral home.

Since I'm on the darker end of the spectrum, I could put my focus on women who resemble me over those who may be Jamaican but are racially distinct and would produce children who didn't quite "look like me". That wouldn't do me any good, however, because the girl who looks more like me can often be the one who is least like me and least compatible with me.

An African-American girl might more closely resemble me than some Jamaican women do, but I'll be on a much closer cultural wavelength with a white, Chinese, Lebanese, or Indo-Jamaican woman than your typical black American, even though the black American more closely resembles me. Even if I expanded "my own" to include other English-speaking Caribbeans who are culturally and geographically somewhat similar, it would be the same thing: I probably would be on a more even level with an Indo-Trinidadian girl than your typical African American from Detroit or the Bronx.

At the end of the day, I would choose the woman whose cultural perspectives I find more amenable to me over the one who does not, as I think this is a more important factor in choosing a mother to a child than her physical appearance. I have to accept that a large portion (probably a majority) of the women who have such amenable perspectives don't look like me, so I'll need to be open minded to maximize my odds of finding one.

3. I want a quality woman.

Quality woman = quality children. I improve my odds of finding a quality woman when I don't exclude 80% of the world's population simply because they don't look like me. My children's hair texture and skin tone are not as important as the quality (physically, culturally, mentally) of their mother. The more open I am, the more likely I am to find the highest quality woman possible.

4. I am more than my skin tone and my hair texture.

This is the biggest reason why I don't like this argument about avoiding interracial unions because "the kids need to look like me". It is too superficial.


When people use the argument, they refer primarily to hair texture and skin tone as these are the biggest differences you usually see in mixed children.
When I look at mixed children, however, I see much more than this. There are many ways for a child to resemble you beyond hair and skin color. I've seen mixed children express the facial features of both parents, with some products of black and white unions even taking more from the fairer side that people insist is "wiped out" in such pairings. Then there's height, athleticism, intellect, persona, and the actual DNA itself to be passed down.

If I end up with an Asian or a European, my kids will not look exactly like me. They will have fairer skin and different hair. But they might have my facial features, my height, my athletic/physical traits (speed, musculature, arm length, coordination, etc), my intellect, my personality traits, and they will certainly have my DNA. They may not look just like me on the surface, but in actuality they will be more like me than any of the hundreds of millions of people who have skin and hair similar to my own and look more "like me" on first glance, but with whom I have little in common intellectually, personally, or genetically. The children may not have my hair or skin or even all of my facial features, but they will be very much like me below the surface, where it matters. That is what is most important in my view.
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