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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
It's not technically cuckolding, but I get Anabasis' visceral reaction.

I would never want to have a kid that doesn't at least resemble me. Muhammad Ali said the same thing which caused some controversy back in the day:





As for this pathetic thing well, yeah. What we're seeing is right wing virtue signaling meeting left wing virtue signaling at the corner of Full Retard. This is the Cruz voter's deepest pathology and character.

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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
I just read the whole thing. Here's my take:

The guy sees the black embryos as some deep spiritual thing, and he's just being a servant of god.

The woman say an opportunity to get bare-dick fucked by as many black guys as possible in a nine month period.

End of story.

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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
Where does it start and where does it end? Mix the races is always an issue. In the past you got your wife / husband from your local area because people did not move around a lot. But now with all this immigration. Should a white American marry a crazy American women when there are outers out there? Should a German marry a polish or russian women? Those stuff did heat up a lot in the past. I still see the conflict in it. There are many beautiful women out there that I want to fuck. But thinking about kids and how they look is also in my mind.
In the past there was race segregation to prevent the mixing. Should this come back?
Why should I bother with a left wing hipster German women, when I can get a nice russian, mexican or japanese one?

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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
(04-21-2016 12:27 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Anabasis, that's a ridiculous comparison. Cuckolding means raising another man's child and/or letting your wife get fucked by other men. The children that you have with a woman of a different race are your kids by definition produced by you fucking her.

The woman had embryos implanted in her. They aren't the man's children. Hell, they aren't even her eggs. They are 100% biologically not either of their children - she was just a carrier for someone else's unwanted and frozen embryos.

That said, these two are just a couple of fucking racists.

Quote:Knowing that it is often more challenging to find adoptive homes in the United States for non-Caucasian children we informed the agency that we were willing to accept any child except a fully Caucasian child.

Doesn't matter the state the children are in or who is more in need, these SWPL fucks just wanted non-white kids. Affirmative action adoption? My word...

Quote:There is something beautiful and enriching being the only white face sitting and chatting with some of my African-American friends as my son gets his hair cut on a Saturday morning.

This shit just reeks of racial novelty. Like "Oh look how neato we are hangning out with all black people lolol." Act like you've been there before jeez.

Quote:When we met with the NEDC, we were again faced with the question of what ethnicity we would choose for our adopted embryos. We wanted additional siblings to feel connected to our first two children racially, and asked the team at the NEDC if we could be matched with African-American embryos.

But somehow their kids don't have a problem feeling "connected" to their super white parents? Don't want any diversity in their home I guess. Want to make sure all their children they bought match - even if they don't match themselves.
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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
Article says it was done via in vitro fertizliation, it wasn't cuckloidry.

Though I think an obsession to have black children just for the sake of them being black is pretty weird and reaks of social justice pandering; why is the race of the children so important to them?
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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
How do you get triplets from in vitro? They must have implanted 6 or more at once.

I think the US average birth rate from ivf is south of 40%.
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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
(04-21-2016 12:27 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Anabasis, that's a ridiculous comparison. Cuckolding means raising another man's child and/or letting your wife get fucked by other men. The children that you have with a woman of a different race are your kids by definition produced by you fucking her.


I think it's a very valid comparison Handsome.

The kid might be yours genetically but phenotypically you have nothing in common. If you raise it, it means you will have put in time, resources and energy into raising a kid that looks more than a guy from another continent than you. How can you not feel the brunt of that?

Even if you do raise the kid you will not be able to love it like a kid deserves to. Would you love the son you had with a Croatian girl or one you had with a Mongolian girl more? The full Croatian kid looks like you. Same eyes, hair and nose. It's like looking at the mini-version of yourself. The half-Mongolian kid has oriental eyes and a radically different nose and hair. People generally assume you adopted him unless you're walking around with the mother.

Could you love them the same? Is it fair to the half-caste kid to have less of a father-son bond because of your irresponsible decision to breed with another race? Exactly the reason why i will never breed with a non-Ethiopian girl. Mulatto Brazilian, Creole or Dominican maybe. Any other race/ethnicity is out of the question.

And it's got nothing to do with race. As a man, it's natural to want your children to look like you and seek out women who ensure that outcome for marriage.

Lays however are no problem. I'd fuck anything above a 5/10!
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(04-21-2016 02:54 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  Could you love them the same?

And it's got nothing to do with race. As a man it's natural to want your children to look like you and seek out women who ensure that outcome for marriage.

This is a good question. Do you think Brad Pitt loves Maddox as much as Shiloh?
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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
Saw title of post, assumed this was coming from OP himself.

Got the popcorn out like Popcorn3

...then I read the article. Lots of mental gymnastics:

Quote:If Christians – or others – really believe life begins at conception, it follows that we should respond by being willing to support embryo adoption and even take part in it ourselves.

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The shark. You jumped it.

"Let's show how pro-life we are by taking care of their own children that (supposedly) pro-choice wouldn't want!" Sure, it's not technically cuckolding, but you end up paying for the unwanted children of others. The cuckoo sits in the nest and takes resources away from those who would have had their parents' genes...

"But no, look at how pro-life we are!" ...what, you want a golden sticker or something?

Have been wrestling with how this kind of virtue-signalling came to be. Didn't it use to be that to be worthy of praise, you were first an accomplished, strong man of character of steady and useful employ, who found a beautiful and loving wife and started a cohesive, nuclear family. "This guy's something," people would notice. "What's he doing that I'm not?"

You would listen to this man. If he wrote a book on success, you'd be interested in it. Incidentally, I'm reading Donald Trump's Art of the Deal right now (just finished the section in which he sold off Swifton Village)...

Ancient Rome would see leaders come to power and respect for their prowess on the battlefield because of individual accomplishment, see (too many examples): Scipio "Africanus" of Rome, and the blustery and boastful Coriolanus .

Whereas this guy in the article just shares his life story, seeing his life story worthy of respect and reverence (worthy of attention-that's why you and I are here, I'll admit that) just like how the stories of Trump, Africanus, and Coriolanus are worthy of respect. These three men made a positive impact in their communities (real estate, war, war). The guy in the article? Not someone to be admired, at least in our community. Unfortunately, he has credentials enough for other audiences and communities to celebrate, and what do you know? Our community will call this virtue-signalling.
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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
(04-21-2016 11:26 AM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  This goes for cuckolds like this and even guys having kids with a woman of a different race. Can't imagine raising a half-white or half-asian baby.

Would probably throw it into a river or something.

(04-21-2016 12:07 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  The kid doesn't look like you, your family or your ancestors. It has different hair, a different skin color ... pretty close to cucking for my taste.

(04-21-2016 02:54 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  Could you love them the same? Is it fair to the half-caste kid to have less of a father-son bond because of your irresponsible decision to breed with another race?


It’s official, the cuckbro crowd has officially jumped the shark, the word cuck is now meaningless.

And what a bunch of nonsense. You've topped yourself with this one.

What you're talking about is nothing like what the attention seeking parents in OP are doing, at all.

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This is disgusting. The man's tortured rationalization for his self-cuckoldry speak to a deep-seated guilt racial guilt complex. It's as if he feels the need to apologize for being born a white man and somehow make amends with God by adopting black children, who in this bizarre worldview apparently lack original sin. In this man's theological views, non-whites are inherently righteous, so simply by having a few around as a sort of talisman he himself is morally redeemed. Also note he didn't just quietly adopt some black children and go about raising them in a Godly household, he loudly and proudly shouts about how morally upstanding he and is wife are into the Washington Post, and from the sound of the article he doesn't shut up about it to his friends and family either. The fact that he and his wife are both perfectly fertile and could have had natural children of their own, and yet chose to use IVF to have black children also displays massive narcissism and is essentially a huge slap in the face to God. "Well God, you brought us together as man and wife and we want to have children...but like, not just any children. Our children have to be BLACK! I mean I know you made us white and all, but white kids are so 1990. This is current year! How are others going to know we are good people if they see our white children running around??? And we can't just adopt some black children, no, we have to use IVF treatments so my wife can have the actual experience of pregnancy to check off her bucket list. We wouldn't want her to miss out on that, after all!"

The line about how they went to the fertility clinic and said "We're open to any donor race EXCEPT white" really says it all. It's not about their children. It's not about God. It's not about doing the right thing. It's about them. It's about them feeling virtuous, and more importantly, being seen as virtuous. They should read their Bible more closely:

Matthew 23:27-28 Wrote:Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead people's bones and all uncleanness. So you also outwardly appear righteous to others, but within you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

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Why is passing on your own genes so frowned upon these days?

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It used to be that you couldn't turn over a stone without seeing some dunce, dork, or freak.

Now you don't even have to turn over the stones to find them. They're sitting on top of the stones, looking at you with rabid eyes.

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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
(04-21-2016 03:07 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  
(04-21-2016 11:26 AM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  This goes for cuckolds like this and even guys having kids with a woman of a different race. Can't imagine raising a half-white or half-asian baby.

Would probably throw it into a river or something.

(04-21-2016 12:07 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  The kid doesn't look like you, your family or your ancestors. It has different hair, a different skin color ... pretty close to cucking for my taste.

(04-21-2016 02:54 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  Could you love them the same? Is it fair to the half-caste kid to have less of a father-son bond because of your irresponsible decision to breed with another race?


It’s official, the cuckbro crowd has officially jumped the shark, the word cuck is now meaningless.

And what a bunch of nonsense. You've topped yourself with this one.


Come up with a counter-argument rather than resorting to ad-hominem please.
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(04-21-2016 02:54 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  
(04-21-2016 12:27 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Anabasis, that's a ridiculous comparison. Cuckolding means raising another man's child and/or letting your wife get fucked by other men. The children that you have with a woman of a different race are your kids by definition produced by you fucking her.


I think it's a very valid comparison Handsome.

The kid might be yours genetically but phenotypically you have nothing in common. If you raise it, it means you will have put in time, resources and energy into raising a kid that looks more than a guy from another continent than you. How can you not feel the brunt of that?

Even if you do raise the kid you will not be able to love it like a kid deserves to. Would you love the son you had with a Croatian girl or one you had with a Mongolian girl more? The full Croatian kid looks like you. Same eyes, hair and nose. It's like looking at the mini-version of yourself. The half-Mongolian kid has oriental eyes and a radically different nose and hair. People generally assume you adopted him unless you're walking around with the mother.

Could you love them the same? Is it fair to the half-caste kid to have less of a father-son bond because of your irresponsible decision to breed with another race? Exactly the reason why i will never breed with a non-Ethiopian girl. Mulatto Brazilian, Creole or Dominican maybe. Any other race/ethnicity is out of the question.

And it's got nothing to do with race. As a man, it's natural to want your children to look like you and seek out women who ensure that outcome for marriage.

Lays however are no problem. I'd fuck anything above a 5/10!

How deep you want to dig this? For example the term white is an US term. In Europe we don't see us just as white. There are Germanic people, slavic, romanic and so on. Would a kid from a German man and a polish women also a half-caste kid? In the past it was often like this.
Should be bring back rage segregation and aryan laws?

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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
^ I never said there should be any laws. I'm a libertarian at heart. To each their own ... I'm even accepting of Trannies.

I'm just saying that I will never raise a kid that does not look like me because it's awfully similar to cuckolding.
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I get your point and I'm in the same struggle as well. See a German women that is a crazy left wing hipster chick or meet a lovely and sweet J-girl. But be with them is one thing, kids another. At the moment I'm not at the point, I will see what will be then. Thug life^^

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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
If you can fall in love with a woman of another race I see no reason why you couldn't love your kid with that woman just as any other. Maybe some guys couldn't, but I think plenty of us could. Even mixed race babies still have many features of the dad, though clearly that is not the case for this particular article.
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(04-21-2016 03:13 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  
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(04-21-2016 11:26 AM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  This goes for cuckolds like this and even guys having kids with a woman of a different race. Can't imagine raising a half-white or half-asian baby.

Would probably throw it into a river or something.

(04-21-2016 12:07 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  The kid doesn't look like you, your family or your ancestors. It has different hair, a different skin color ... pretty close to cucking for my taste.

(04-21-2016 02:54 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  Could you love them the same? Is it fair to the half-caste kid to have less of a father-son bond because of your irresponsible decision to breed with another race?


It’s official, the cuckbro crowd has officially jumped the shark, the word cuck is now meaningless.

And what a bunch of nonsense. You've topped yourself with this one.


Come up with a counter-argument rather than resorting to ad-hominem please.

The silliness is self evident.

You didn't make a logically supported argument to begin with.

When you can show that a child with different hair color or skin tone causes a father to love his biological son less, or how having a wife and mother of a different race is "irresponsible", then there will be a discussion worth having.

As of now what you're saying is based solely on a theory you made up.

(04-21-2016 02:54 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  Could you love them the same?

Lets say white dude marries and has son with smokin' Filipina. In your mind the father wouldn't love the son as much as if he had a son with a white girl? Why do you think that's the case? I'm not a father, but I'd be interested in hearing from some fathers here on this. I can't imagine that is accurate at all.


And that you've gone off the cuck deep end is also self evident. What do you not get?

Quote:even guys having kids with a woman of a different race

Come on man.

When everything is cuck, cuck is meaningless.

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I'm guessing that having these triplets isn't the first time that woman has had her pussy stretched out by blacks.
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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
(04-21-2016 03:13 PM)Parzival Wrote:  How deep you want to dig this? For example the term white is an US term. In Europe we don't see us just as white. There are Germanic people, slavic, romanic and so on. Would a kid from a German man and a polish women also a half-caste kid? In the past it was often like this.

Except that "caste", as Anabasis uses it, is largely an involuntary social reaction and political consequence of this type of broader mixing. In other words, the kid would not look White nor Asian, for instance, and thus would not be wholly accepted by either society. As a result, the kid will find no sociopolitical group to which to belong. Thus, the category of "half-caste". Just ask half-breed Japanese what it is like to live in Japanese society, or mixed Caucasian-Asians on how they fare in the West. It's not good; overt rejection aside.

Intra-European mixing is also somewhat of a sociopolitical issue, but not as much because the mixing occurs within slightly differing breeds of the same race - not between two entirely different races. The kid can blend in and has a high chance of exhibiting mostly the phenotype of one of the breeds (Polish, German, etc.) as well as, perhaps, most of the cognitive-emotional traits of one of these breeds. He will have a society and political group to which he can wholly belong.

Extreme examples of either end of the intermixing spectrum don't really work to disprove this logic. If we were to take you example further, we could speciously work to disprove my above explained logic by asking why we prohibit incest or why we don't aspire to interracially breed all of the time. The answer is because neither result is valuable to the human race.

Quote:Should be bring back rage segregation and aryan laws?

Hyperbole doesn't help.

Let me ask you this: what happens when a society accommodates a myriad of differing ethnic groups, mixed or not, that all have differing perceived political agendas? Does the society survive, fracture, or even cease to exist? Where does it end? Why not just invite the whole of Africa into Europe? Why not just invite the whole of China into Africa? Why not just invite the whole of Arabia into Israel? Why not just invite the whole of South America into the United States?

All of this has significant political and social consequences. Keeping it within the boundaries of a debate on who is the least racist is lower, and ultimately insignificant, politics.
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RE: My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black...
I'm still confused as to why people think these kids are somehow biologically theirs. They aren't.

They were embryos that were implanted into the wife's womb. Not sperm implanted into her eggs. Adopted embryos are generally leftovers from another couple's IVF (which the article states). They are pre-fertilized eggs implanted into a woman's uterus.

They had 3 kids because she had (2) embryos implanted and one of them split inutero creating a monozygotic twin.

Anyone else read this article besides me?

Anyway, they are raising other people's kids.

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White guilt. These delusional cultists drank the koolaid.
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(04-21-2016 03:22 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  When you can show that a child with different hair color or skin tone causes a father to love his biological son less, or how having a wife and mother of a different race is "irresponsible", then there will be a discussion worth having.

For the sake of the argument, what race are you?

If you are unmixed, I would ask if you've ever knocked up a girl of another race?

I offer that you won't know how you feel about it, or even how to perceive the situation when you observe it for others, until that happens. Everything is wildly theoretical until that happens. You'll then perceive the world differently, either further toward your current feelings or further toward what A to D is offering. But you won't know until it happens. Reality has a unique way of clarifying hypothetical family and social situations.
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