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RE: Venezuela is collapsing
I oppose globalism as much as the next person, but in this instance the people claiming globalist skullduggery are out to lunch.

Venezuela is the perfect demonstration of the inevitable end-state that is created by allowing socialist governments free reign over national economies.

The root cause of the crisis in Venezuela is solely - and I mean solely - due to the absolutely insane manner in which the central bank of Venezuela manipulates its currency in order to allow the socialist Chavez/Maduro governments to fund their subsidies and social programs.

This video is somewhat technical, but demonstrates the gist of the dynamic at play here:





Consider that right now, the government of Venezuela imposes an official exchange rate of roughly 10 VEF/USD, when the black market rate is closer to 1,000 VEF/USD.

As explained in the video, the profit margins for arbitrage are absolutely colossal.

Of course, when oil prices were high (PDVSA, the state-owned oil company, is the source of 95% of Venezuela's hard currency) this was relatively tolerable. With oil prices in the tank for the foreseeable future, the entire country is careening towards complete collapse.

EDIT: This 2015 article in the NYT demonstrates the utter ridiculousness of the distortions that this currency exchange mechanism creates in Venezuela: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/07/opinio...ircus.html

Quote:In a faraway land, an eccentric king nailed an edict to the door of his palace that said: “Henceforth, $20 bills will be sold here for $1.”

Within minutes, his subjects were clamoring for those cut-rate twenties. So the king posted a second edict: “Each $20 bill shall be used only to buy things abroad.” Then a third: “Whatever you buy abroad with your $20 you must sell in our kingdom for $2.”

“This will make me beloved!” he thought. “Foreign goods will be cheap for all.”

But it didn’t work out that way. Soon, the lines for $20 bills were matched by lines at every store that sold foreign goods.

Since nobody saw much point in buying anything abroad to sell for just $2, people mostly pocketed the twenties and the imports never showed up on store shelves. And if any item did hit the shelves, whether it was a $2 box of diapers or a $2 sack of flour, it could be sold for $6 on the black market — so standing in line at the shops became a job.

The king was incensed. A new edict appeared: “Pocketing your twenty and marking up a $2 import are henceforth economic crimes, punishable by imprisonment.”

Riot police officers roamed the queues sniffing out dissent; subjects were recruited as spies. “It must be a conspiracy! A foreign plot to overthrow the monarchy,” raged the king.

If this fable strikes you as far-fetched, spare a thought for the people of Venezuela. For 12 years, their economy has been run pretty much along these lines.

In 2003, a beleaguered President Hugo Chávez imposed currency controls to try to hold down inflation and prevent a speculative run on the Venezuelan bolívar. Over the years that followed, these controls evolved into the byzantine tiered system by which the government’s oil dollars are sold at three different official prices — while hard-currency dollars fetch a fourth, higher price on the black market.

An importer who pledges to purchase basic necessities to bring into the country can buy a dollar for about six bolívars. But walk up to a bank teller and the same dollar costs 178 bolívars: nearly 3,000 percent more. For the 264 bolívars that it cost at the time of this writing to buy one black-market dollar, you could buy 42 dollars at the official rate.

The system gives rise to a mind-bending tangle of economic distortions. By one calculation, with a single $100 bill exchanged at the black market rate, you can buy enough subsidized gasoline in Venezuela to drive a Hummer around the world 28 times. A new Toyota Corolla retails for about 1.9 million bolívars — that’s either about $300,000 (at one exchange rate) or around $7,200 (at another), take your pick. As in our fable, the exchange-rate regime creates huge incentives for importers to pocket their cheap dollars rather than bring in goods — and that gives rise to lines. Long lines. For all the basics.

Alongside scarcity, a new specter — or rather, an old one — has emerged. For the last two weeks, the bolívar has been in free fall, evoking fear of devastating hyperinflation, rarely seen in Latin America since the turn of the century.

Venezuela is no longer an economy marked by distortions. Rather, it’s one big distortion, marked by pockets of economic activity — what a leading blogger calls Distortioland.

What’s strange is that Venezuela’s chaos is entirely self-inflicted. Unlike Greece, which simply doesn’t have the money to pay its debts, the solution to Venezuela’s disaster is a desk reform well within President Nicolás Maduro’s power: Just stop handing out twenties for a buck.

As the economist Francisco R. Rodríguez has argued, this simple step would eliminate much of Venezuela’s huge budget deficit, because the government would get more local currency for every barrel of oil sold. That would bring down runaway inflation, because the government would no longer have to print the extra bolívars it needs to operate. And it would put an end to the long lines, because importers would no longer have overwhelming incentives to hoard cheap dollars rather than buy imports.

Even economists who often clash with Mr. Rodríguez, like Prof. Ricardo Hausmann of Harvard, agree that unifying the exchange rate would be an important first step in reform. Venezuela “has the most ridiculous exchange-rate differential ever in the history of mankind,” noted Mr. Hausmann. Normally, in countries in crisis, the reforms needed to right the economy could prove unpopular in the short term. Normally, tearing down the $20-for-a-buck edict, which means devaluing the currency, would hit people’s pocketbooks hard by increasing the price of imports. Normally, the leaders would be between a rock and a hard place: between default and mass protests.

But Distortioland is not normal. The currency regime offers nothing to consumers facing empty shelves, so devaluation could prove popular, even in the short run. Venezuela, between a rock and a lounge chair, has thrown itself against the rock.

So why doesn’t Mr. Maduro take action? Maybe because those people pocketing twenties are friends of the government. Or because the Maduro administration just doesn’t understand the economic consequences of walking back its earlier mistakes (shockingly, there’s not a single economist in Venezuela’s cabinet). In any case, it’s not happening.

What’s happening instead is that the multiple exchange rate system is spawning police-state actions. As discontent mounts, a government at wits’ end is turning paranoid — pouncing on even the mildest expressions of dissent.

In January, the police detained an opposition activist named Daniel M. Yabrudy and others for handing out coffee and water to people who were in line outside a Caracas supermarket to buy food. The students’ crime? On each cup, the message: “Don’t get used to this, we can live better.”

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RE: Venezuela is collapsing
(05-14-2016 07:55 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  
(05-14-2016 07:17 PM)scorpion Wrote:  Ignoring the political aspect of this situation (I know this is the Politics & War subforum, but indulge me a brief segue), this really demonstrates the necessity of keeping at least a few weeks' worth of food stored in your home. It's easy and takes zero effort. Just buy it and store it. Food distribution networks are extremely fragile in modern society. This sort of thing could happen anywhere for any number of reasons (natural disasters, epidemics, terrorism, martial law, oil disruptions, electrical grid failures, etc...). People turn into violent savages very quickly without access to food. You don't want to be around them in that type of situation, and you certainly don't want to be one of them.

Agreed.

I just want to add, for those in areas that allow it, I would recommend arming yourself. We can all see here how much trouble the world is in, in general. No need to not be prepared.

^The entire world population of 7 billion could fit comfortably in an area the size of Texas.

Feeding the world, overpopulation and land is not the problem here. The problem is supporting a middle class American-esque lifestyle for an upcoming 2 billion people who want to drive cars, travel, have heating & air conditioning and consume 200 g of protein on a daily basis.

The planet simply can't support that. Once a billion Chinese, a billion Indians and hundreds of millions in Africa and SA start expecting that lifestyle ... that's when the real resource wars start happening.
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RE: Venezuela is collapsing
(05-14-2016 08:42 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  I oppose globalism as much as the next person, but in this instance the people claiming globalist skullduggery are out to lunch.

Exactly. The government, in addition to blaming paramilitary soldiers, has cried wolf in the form of globalization, which isn't really fooling anybody. The onus is one-hundred percent on horrendous socialist policies which have lead to hyperinflation, and the subsequent food and basic supply shortages.

Now in a state of socioeconomic collapse, the murder rates will continue to soar, and the standard of living will continue to decline. While I've only been to Venezuela once, the country has undergone a drastic change for the worse since the last time I was there (Summer 2015).

When/if Maduro becomes ousted, the question is how long it will be before Venezuela returns to relative normality. Even with a resilient, and productive economy, reversing the effects of hyperinflation to this degree would take years. Venezuela isn't a resilient economy - who knows how long it will take.
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RE: Venezuela is collapsing
(05-14-2016 05:08 PM)911 Wrote:  
(05-14-2016 04:52 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  
(05-14-2016 04:06 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  With their climate, they can grow food all year round. Wtf is wrong with the country that they don't have enough to eat?

While a tiny desert country like Israel which is barely the size of New Jersey (until the Jews turned it into paradise) is not only self-sufficient, but exports $3 Billion worth of food and fresh produce a year.

I say let 'em starve.

Maybe if they can export $3Bill worth of food a year, they shouldn't leach $3Bill a year off of US taxpayers.


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(05-14-2016 05:53 PM)Roosh Wrote:  
(05-14-2016 05:39 PM)Luvianka Wrote:  Just another attack on the BRICS by the World financial elite of NY and London. They just operated a coup d'Etat in Brazil, they put a sorry-ass puppet in Argentina, and now Venezuela.
An these scenes could be any country, any day since the whole system in about to collapse.

What specifically did the USA do to speed this along? Particularly after their failed Chavez coup.

From the outside it looks like massive incompetence and corruption coming home to roost.

I'd say at least three issues:
First, the collapsing (coordinated with Saudi Arabia and the Gulf monarchies) of the price of oil. I guess by now the RVF members understand that oil is not a commodity priced by supply and demand but for geopolitical reasons. The targets were both Russia and Venezuela, and to some extent, Iran. Russia has more room to deal with it, without mentioning it holds other cards to play. But Venezuela depends heavily in oil revenues.
Second, pushing a coup for more than four years now. First inside the Army and then with a sorry ass candidate such as Henrique Capriles Rondonski (an Israeli promiscuous gay citizen guarded by Mossad agents); who has been supported in the ground by the usual suspects -Soros fiunded NGOs.
Third. Trying to create a drug-wars diplomatic and even military crisis with other US client States such as Mexico and Colombia.

Paul Craig Roberts, among others, have been writing about this.

Now, the Venezuelan Government can have all the flaws you can name, but it's not more incompetent and corrupt than say, Mexico's or Colombia's. And those countries are not in such situation... By now.

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RE: Venezuela is collapsing
As someone with strong ties to the country for over 26 years, Roosh is correct in that it is massive incompetence and corruption coming home to roost (Chavez´s daughter has bank accounts worth about 4 billion dollars). They can and do grow food, but they are exporting basics like beans and rice for dollars. About 3 million people have left the country over the past 15 years and about 30 million remain (to include copious amounts of beautiful women). The Venezuelans are Latin, but different from other Latin Americans due to the stronger influence of the Caribbean. Most do not seek conflict, even in poverty. As a population, they generally look for the path of least resistance (reason often does not enter the equation) and are easy targets for tyranny and populist leaders.

On the positive side, you can read other details. These are some of the highlights:

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1195853
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1196576
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1211718
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1217961
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1227787


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RE: Venezuela is collapsing
The figures I have read in the past suggested that 96% of Venezuelas exports is oil. You don't have to be an expert in economics to see what a giant risk something like this is, pegging the entire fortune of your country to one commodity, especially one which isn't governed by the basic market force of supply and demand, but as Luvianka said, is used as a weapon by various countries in the geopolitical conflicts of the world. What Venezuela should of done is diversified their economy as much as possible, at one time they certainly had the money to do it considering the billions they poured into various social programmes during the Chavez era.

On a side note what do you guys think is the future of Saudi Arabia? I read yesterday that they lost $100 billion dollars last from their reserve. It was claimed that at this rate Saudi Arabia has another five years left to go. Thoughts?
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It's always a laugh when failed collectivist states blame their troubles on uber-collectivist globalist conspiracies. One might be forgiven for suggesting that we reap what we sow.

In any case, they certainly can't blame their two day work week for their troubles, can they? I mean, it's not like productivity has anything to do with prosperity, right?

So what possible reason could there be for an energy wholesaler to be suffering rolling blackouts and a lack of food in the age of agricultural industrialisation?
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Four years ago, the Venezuelan government banned private gun ownership.

Quote:Venezuela has brought a new gun law into effect which bans the commercial sale of firearms and ammunition.
Until now, anyone with a gun permit could buy arms from a private company.
Under the new law, only the army, police and certain groups like security companies will be able to buy arms from the state-owned weapons manufacturer and importer.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-18288430

The more they go after guns in the USA, the surer we can be of a pending collapse.

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Interesting how oil countries are all suffering with oil current price. Angola is going through the same process, as some of you may know, in 2010 Luanda was the most expensive city in the world (even more expensive than New York or London) but now due to the devaluation of local currency, things are incredible cheap. An apartment that costed me 1500 US dollars while I was there in 2011, today it would cost you 300 dollars. A range rover that was selling for 80000 US dollars, today you could buy it for 20000 dollars. The opportunities to invest are very appealing but I don't recommend it because of how unstable the country is in political and business terms.


Maybe this should be a good lesson for these countries to learn other ways of generating income and jobs for their irrespective countries.

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(05-15-2016 02:06 AM)NASA Test Pilot Wrote:  On the positive side, you can read other details. These are some of the highlights:

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1195853
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1196576
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1211718
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1217961
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1227787

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(05-14-2016 09:48 PM)Luvianka Wrote:  Now, the Venezuelan Government can have all the flaws you can name, but it's not more incompetent and corrupt than say, Mexico's or Colombia's. And those countries are not in such situation... By now.

Then what are you doing in Mexico if the gov't is that incompetent?

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(05-14-2016 09:48 PM)Luvianka Wrote:  Now, the Venezuelan Government can have all the flaws you can name, but it's not more incompetent and corrupt than say, Mexico's or Colombia's. And those countries are not in such situation... By now.
How is it not more incompetent than Mexico & Colombia? It's way more protectionist and socialist than those two.
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(05-14-2016 05:50 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  the Chavismo philosophy was irrational and obviously based on untruths, but a voting majority of Venezuelans was willfully unrational, and was prepared to believe the country's problems were caused by a foreign conspiracy, against all logic or reason.

At the time, i found this idea remarkable. The idea that unreason could have such a strong and pervasive basis in the electorate seemed impossible.

What a difference a few years makes. Now this spirit has spread over all of western civilization, most particularly among the governmental, academic, and cultural elites.

If Trump and the various nationalist movements fail, we all need to be ready to weather this kind of crisis.

Its cultural marxism. The glorification if the migrant and be tolerant. Cultural enrichment when kids get raped by 3th world savages and everyone that stand up against this is a racist.

I often wonder, what kind of mindset you need to have to fuck up the country that you should run? Reminds me at crazy feudal lords that fuck everything up and then get killed at the end. Me as a leader, I would take great pride to improve the live of my fellow citizens and even make history to rise my nation again. But well I'm not in a position of power - probably because of this mindset.

I have a friend from Venezuela, she applies now for political asylum in spain.

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(05-14-2016 07:17 PM)scorpion Wrote:  Ignoring the political aspect of this situation (I know this is the Politics & War subforum, but indulge me a brief segue), this really demonstrates the necessity of keeping at least a few weeks' worth of food stored in your home. It's easy and takes zero effort. Just buy it and store it. Food distribution networks are extremely fragile in modern society. This sort of thing could happen anywhere for any number of reasons (natural disasters, epidemics, terrorism, martial law, oil disruptions, electrical grid failures, etc...). People turn into violent savages very quickly without access to food. You don't want to be around them in that type of situation, and you certainly don't want to be one of them.


This just got me thinking...

Has anyone ever seen a run on a food distribution center? If this happens, head down to the nearest Sysco, US Foodservice, Gordon Food Service DC and eat to your hearts content.
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Best way to prepare for something like this is what one poster on page 1 said, get food and weapons. A few weeks supply won't help if something like this goes down in the USA or Europe, more like a year or two supply.

Alex Jones is a scaremonger, but he has some pretty solid products for sale on his website for things like this.

Here's a year supply of dehydrated food for sale for around 1500 bucks. This stuff lasts for 25 years. A few of those depending on how many people you plan on having around, along with some weapons and ammo should be enough to ride out the storm and avoid a lot of the problems people will have with no food at all.

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The world better be paying attention because the next 50 years will be a rerun of these events over and over. Cats and dogs are the new chicken!

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(05-15-2016 12:57 PM)captain_shane Wrote:  Best way to prepare for something like this is what one poster on page 1 said, get food and weapons. A few weeks supply won't help if something like this goes down in the USA or Europe, more like a year or two supply.

Alex Jones is a scaremonger, but he has some pretty solid products for sale on his website for things like this.

Here's a year supply of dehydrated food for sale for around 1500 bucks. This stuff lasts for 25 years. A few of those depending on how many people you plan on having around, along with some weapons and ammo should be enough to ride out the storm and avoid a lot of the problems people will have with no food at all.

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I think I might rather die than eat that shit for a year.
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(05-15-2016 01:12 PM)Gopher Wrote:  
(05-15-2016 12:57 PM)captain_shane Wrote:  Best way to prepare for something like this is what one poster on page 1 said, get food and weapons. A few weeks supply won't help if something like this goes down in the USA or Europe, more like a year or two supply.

Alex Jones is a scaremonger, but he has some pretty solid products for sale on his website for things like this.

Here's a year supply of dehydrated food for sale for around 1500 bucks. This stuff lasts for 25 years. A few of those depending on how many people you plan on having around, along with some weapons and ammo should be enough to ride out the storm and avoid a lot of the problems people will have with no food at all.

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I think I might rather die than eat that shit for a year.

I don't see why. Nothing on this list sounds disgusting to me.

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RE: Venezuela is collapsing
(05-14-2016 04:09 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Will there be boats?

Yes, there will.

Human beings find a way.

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(05-15-2016 11:37 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  
(05-15-2016 02:06 AM)NASA Test Pilot Wrote:  On the positive side, you can read other details. These are some of the highlights:

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1195853
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1196576
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1211718
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1217961
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1227787

NTP, do you think VZLA will be like the former USSR in the 90s, chick wise?

Yes, I do think so and I have equated it to Nicaragua in 1994, Argentina in 1999 and Ecuador in 2000 (all of which I had the chance to experience firsthand within 12 months of those times); the opportunities (especially women in Argentina) were phenomenal. It will not be for the faint of heart at first and opportunities will decrease as time goes by. I will post some examples of plates and LTR´s on the Venezuelan thread.
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1302106
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dating Venezuelans on Tinder over the last few years fleeing their country has been interesting
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(05-15-2016 07:48 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Four years ago, the Venezuelan government banned private gun ownership.

Quote:Venezuela has brought a new gun law into effect which bans the commercial sale of firearms and ammunition.
Until now, anyone with a gun permit could buy arms from a private company.
Under the new law, only the army, police and certain groups like security companies will be able to buy arms from the state-owned weapons manufacturer and importer.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-18288430

The more they go after guns in the USA, the surer we can be of a pending collapse.

They will have a full scale war on their hands across the Midwest if they try to take guns. In fact, many states in the Midwest, thank God, are taking away gun restrictions. States are starting to make it so you don't even need a C&C license to C&C. Anyone citizen who passes the back ground check can C&C.

I would recommend getting their hands on what ever weapons they legally can. For years I wanted to get out of the Midwest, but today I have never been so thankful to be here and will stay here. Guns are every where and the people are smart and prepared. The amount of average joes working a 9 to 5 in an office in a metro area with their families in the burbs, but with a small scale arsenal at home is off the charts.

But you are right Roosh, I can hardly have a conversation with a man over 35 that isn't either fully aware of how bad the economy is and pissed off or even more so are fully aware and fully armed and ready for the collapse. We can see this coming to the USA eventually.
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(05-15-2016 04:52 PM)NASA Test Pilot Wrote:  
(05-15-2016 11:37 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  
(05-15-2016 02:06 AM)NASA Test Pilot Wrote:  On the positive side, you can read other details. These are some of the highlights:

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1195853
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1196576
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1211718
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1217961
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1227787

NTP, do you think VZLA will be like the former USSR in the 90s, chick wise?

Yes, I do think so and I have equated it to Nicaragua in 1994, Argentina in 1999 and Ecuador in 2000 (all of which I had the chance to experience firsthand within 12 months of those times); the opportunities (especially women in Argentina) were phenomenal. It will not be for the faint of heart at first and opportunities will decrease as time goes by. I will post some examples of plates and LTR´s on the Venezuelan thread.
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1302106

The bolded part is worth noting for any guys that are dreaming of a repeat of 90's Russia, or Argentina.

There wasn't near the violence and crime in those places compared to Venezuela even in "stable" times, let alone what we're seeing now and will see in the coming months/years. Venezuela is no joke, not before and definitely not now.

A gringo showing up now who isn't extremely experienced in rough places is going to likely have a not great experience, and even an experienced guy can't always avoid shit in Venezuela. I'm talking robbed at the airport type stuff, and that was during "peace" time.

This is not meant to be fear mongering, not at all, just my perspective from experience in the region. For example, Colombia is gringo disneyland level "safe" and "easy" compared to Venezuela, and yet there are still plenty of guys that find themselves in shit even there.

Readers should take note that NTP is obviously very experienced in the country. In addition I believe his primary residence is on a boat and/or Isla Margarita (NTP please correct me if I have that wrong), which is much more secure (and fucking awesome).

Sexy young girls are a big draw, but I urge any guys having dreams of post collapse poon to also take note of the realities of the destination. It could be a hell of a ride, for sure, but it needs to be approached without illusion.

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(05-15-2016 04:52 PM)NASA Test Pilot Wrote:  
(05-15-2016 11:37 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  
(05-15-2016 02:06 AM)NASA Test Pilot Wrote:  On the positive side, you can read other details. These are some of the highlights:

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1195853
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1196576
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1211718
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1217961
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1227787

NTP, do you think VZLA will be like the former USSR in the 90s, chick wise?

Yes, I do think so and I have equated it to Nicaragua in 1994, Argentina in 1999 and Ecuador in 2000 (all of which I had the chance to experience firsthand within 12 months of those times); the opportunities (especially women in Argentina) were phenomenal. It will not be for the faint of heart at first and opportunities will decrease as time goes by. I will post some examples of plates and LTR´s on the Venezuelan thread.
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-19223...pid1302106

I can only imagine. Even prior to this collapse the opportunities with women were incredible. Looks like I'm headed back !

As an aside, how often are you in Venezuela, NTP?

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