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Quote:The elites pushing this insanity would absolutely agree with you in private that in fact these people are simply mentally ill.

But there's this:

And this, this, and this.
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(02-04-2018 04:49 PM)Brother Abdul Majeed Wrote:  I've often thought of a scenario that mirrors the transgender movement.

One day I'll show up at work wearing a gorilla costume. My boss will ask me WTF, why are you in a gorilla costume? I will tell him that my proclivity for having fun is my "orientation" and that he can't discriminate against my orientation. Furthermore, I will be able to sue my clients who no longer want to work with me because I wear a gorilla costume because the federal government supports my position. If I feel like a gorilla, then I should respectfully be treated as such without any negative impact upon myself, no matter how ridiculous it seems to anyone else. I will use the law to ensure that I don't suffer any consequences and force people who don't want to put up with my delusions to continue employing and/or working with me. The fact that they might think that I think of myself as a gorilla should be irrelevant to them as far as trusting my judgement goes. It's perfectly normal that I should think of myself as something that I'm not.

I really can't see a difference between this scenario and the times we live in, where I'm supposed to believe that humans who were born with a penis believe themselves to be women and I'm forced to accept that (despite everything I can see with my own two eyes). I know a very obese man with a 5 oçlock shadow who rides around on an electric wheelchair who proclaims himself to be a woman. It's grotesque. It's a joke. But that's the state of affairs these days. I could just as easily could put on a monkey costume and declare myself a gorilla, and then expect the law to reinforce my delusion.

Luckily Gerald Broflovski blazed the path for you and other transpecies individuals with his dolphinoplasty.



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RE: Distinguish psychiatrist declares transgender movement promoting mental illness
(02-04-2018 11:10 PM)Different T Wrote:  
Quote:The elites pushing this insanity would absolutely agree with you in private that in fact these people are simply mentally ill.

But there's this:

And this, this, and this.

And this and this.
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(02-04-2018 08:49 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  But there's this:


Quote:“In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.”

― Theodore Dalrymple

So when they say "concede to Transgender rights or lose your job", ^this is what that's really about.

This also describes female shit tests, especially inside a relationship, which is why we have to pass them, and why the SJWs hate Jordan Peterson and all his only tell the truth crap.

“That sig BTW is a very asinine anti-family anti-parent quote. You live in a country where 40% of children grow up without a biological father, yet somehow “the greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents”? Sorry but this is fruity Boomer nonsense.”

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(02-05-2018 11:52 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  This also describes female shit tests, especially inside a relationship, which is why we have to pass them, and why the SJWs hate Jordan Peterson and all his only tell the truth crap.

Actually, in his 12 Rules interview with Rubin, JP says "Don't lie more than you have to."



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(02-05-2018 12:22 PM)Different T Wrote:  
(02-05-2018 11:52 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  This also describes female shit tests, especially inside a relationship, which is why we have to pass them, and why the SJWs hate Jordan Peterson and all his only tell the truth crap.

Actually, in his 12 Rules interview with Rubin, JP says "Don't lie more than you have to."




The only reason he says this is because he realizes that no one really knows the absolute truth. He is making that allowance. At least don't say things you know to be untrue.

He isn't in favor of lying. He is in favor of telling the truth as best you can. You are misrepresenting his position.

“That sig BTW is a very asinine anti-family anti-parent quote. You live in a country where 40% of children grow up without a biological father, yet somehow “the greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents”? Sorry but this is fruity Boomer nonsense.”

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(02-05-2018 12:42 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  The only reason he says this is because he realizes that no one really knows the absolute truth. He is making that allowance. At least don't say things you know to be untrue.

He isn't in favor of lying. He is in favor of telling the truth as best you can. You are misrepresenting his position.

No. He wants to nest "truth" inside "Darwinism." You do not UNDERSTAND his position.




Its at 14:30.

To avoid the obfuscation charge: eg. Peterson has always said that the West was unique in focusing on the individual and developing the tradition of the hero.

However, for what appears to be political (Darwin) reasons, he now says the West was based on the "sovereign individual." This is a lie. It is unlikely he isn't aware of this; as AFAIK he never used this term before the past 6-12 months.

The very word sovereign, according to this, is from the early 14th century (well into Western history) and was a political (relating to the structure of authority) term, basically meaning the anglo equivalent of something like king. No, the West wasn't based on every individual being "king."

And, of course, remember; JP "is very careful with his words."
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(02-05-2018 12:53 PM)Different T Wrote:  
(02-05-2018 12:42 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  The only reason he says this is because he realizes that no one really knows the absolute truth. He is making that allowance. At least don't say things you know to be untrue.

He isn't in favor of lying. He is in favor of telling the truth as best you can. You are misrepresenting his position.

No. He wants to nest "truth" inside "Darwinism." You do not UNDERSTAND his position.




Its at 14:30.

To avoid the obfuscation charge: eg. Peterson has always said that the West was unique in focusing on the individual and developing the tradition of the hero.

However, for what appears to be political (Darwin) reasons, he now says the West was based on the "sovereign individual." This is a lie. It is unlikely he isn't aware of this; as AFAIK he never used this term before the past 6-12 months.

The very word sovereign, according to this, is from the early 14th century (well into Western history) and was a political (relating to the structure of authority) term, basically meaning the anglo equivalent of something like king. No, the West wasn't based on every individual being "king."

And, of course, remember; JP "is very careful with his words."


Seems like you have a lot to say about Peterson, and if so, you should put it in the Peterson thread.

My reference to Peterson was tangential at best, and the point of what I was saying was to build on what Mr. Neubache was saying with his quote of Dalrymple, that it ain't about truth, it is about humiliation, and making people do and say things they don't believe in to avoid punishment.

You are picking a weird place to have an eruption of specific and wide ranging nitpicking of Peterson and you seem triggered in some way.

Your post reminded me of this:

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“That sig BTW is a very asinine anti-family anti-parent quote. You live in a country where 40% of children grow up without a biological father, yet somehow “the greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents”? Sorry but this is fruity Boomer nonsense.”

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(02-05-2018 01:22 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  My reference to Peterson was tangential at best, and the point of what I was saying was to build on what Mr. Neubache was saying with his quote of Dalrymple, that it ain't about truth, it is about humiliation, and making people do and say things they don't believe in to avoid punishment.

Or, IOW, it's about domination and implementation of a certain individual's or group's will/goals, kinda like what? Darwinism, maybe?


(02-05-2018 01:22 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  Your post reminded me of this:

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That's to be expected. Here's what your post reminds me of:

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Decades ago, before our current wave of transsexualmania, I was interested in learning about people who presented themselves one way to society, and a radically different way in private. Growing up, my parents were extremely violent to one another and as a small child, it was quite terrifying. I actually believed one was going to murder the other. I was interested in learning about people who were like my parents, who presented themselves as well-adjusted, friendly, and helpful to their friends and neighbors, but who turned into monsters behind with no concern about how they were harming their children. I have a lot of empathy for people who had experienced traumas as children, or any age for that matter, because I know how damaging it can be.

I found a community on live journal, a social media site at the time, where people wanted to be disabled or have a healthy body part amputated. Some of the people would drive to a city where they did not live or know anyone. Once there, they would use a wheelchair, despite not needing one, or pretend to be blind with sunglasses and a walking stick. They shared photos of themselves doing this for their friends on the forum. There was no indication they were deceiving people for handouts. They would write about how happy they felt being seen by people as disabled or amputated. They felt like their true selves. They had found some relief from their obsessive desires to be disabled or amputated. Their language sounded similar to how transgender people speak today.

There are others who went further. They would amputate the tips of their fingers and toes, place them in jars of formaldehyde and exchange them through the mail with friends they had met on the forum. There are people who have gone even further. People have submerged their limbs in dry ice in order to force doctors to amputate them. In the 1990s, a British doctor named Robert Smith amputated the legs of two healthy patients. "Smith said he performed the surgery to end his patients' obsessions and suffering. 'They may take the law into their own hands,' Smith said. 'They may lie under a railroad line, on a railroad line and get run over by a train. They use shotguns and shoot their limbs off. They really are a desperate bunch.'

One man who had an obsession with amputating his leg said "he would consider it a "rational" act. "Having my leg off would cause a handicap and suffering," he said. "But BIID [Body Integrity Identity Disorder] also causes handicap and suffering, and it's just a matter of which is worse." Another man submerged both his legs in dry ice, forcing doctors to amputate. "...his obsession with losing a limb did not end with his double amputation. But he said he finally lost his desire to also remove his left hand after an intense regime of therapy and anti-depressants...There are places the wheelchair can't take him, like to the beach to feel the sand under his feet." 'It's all those little things, like that,' Karl said. 'What the hell was I thinking?'

This mimics what is happening with transsexual people. There is a growing community centered around trans-regret. They are largely ignored by the media and their so-called advocates. The advocates paint their suffering as a lack of acceptance from society, and that does contribute to some of it. Some transsexuals feel good during or shortly after their transitions, but that wears off for many for them. I can't find the story, but I remember reading about a woman in her 40's who had lived as a man for around 10 years. Through therapy, she realized she was motivated by her experience of being repeatedly raped as a child, and she insanely, although understandably, thought if she did not have a vagina she could not be raped. This was the way her poor developing mind coped with severe trauma. When transsexual mania was just developing, I watched a YouTube video of a man who was living as a woman. He went to the doctor for the first time to learn about what medical options he had to feel more like a woman. After, he scolded all his viewers and the advocates, saying not a single one of them explained any of the downsides involved. They had just cheered for him and told him to be his true self. Their motivation was to feel good about themselves, and feel like they are on the "right side of history" as people say.

Transsexual advocates refuse to accept the possibility that people presenting themselves as the opposite sex does not ultimately help them. I feel more disgusted by the advocates who are not transsexual than the transsexuals themselves who don't encourage others. The advocates are cheering for people, many of whom have suffered traumas, as they run off a cliff. It's hard for people to imagine themselves in a state of insanity, but it can happen to anyone given with right circumstances. I hope if I ever find myself in a dark place, I don't meet anyone like these advocates who will push me further into hell as they pat themselves on the back.

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LW, I came across that same site too, back in the day, while I was researching trepanning after coming across an article about it all. A magazine article I read was about a guy who shot his lower leg off with a shotgun - well, it didn't come completely off, the surgeons had to do the rest. Says he felt "complete" after doing this.

I agree with you that much of the gender-issue language used these days, to include neologisms and word appropriations, falls along these same lines of subversion, counter-culture, and mental illness.
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I wonder why so many of them are quite happy to keep their dicks. There's got to be some very specific reason.

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Transgenders are mentally ill, it is just that the (((elites))) see them as a means to their end!
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(08-24-2019 07:23 PM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  I wonder why so many of them are quite happy to keep their dicks. There's got to be some very specific reason.

I suspect most transsexuals who don't get so-called "sex change surgery" are unhappy inside, considering that many have drug problems, have depression, and attempt and commit suicide. They may not get surgery for a few reasons. They are expensive, and there is a lot of pain and recovery time. There are also a lot of complications -- the "vagina" is shallow, hair grows inside, you have to scoop puss out regularly, it looks weird, and you have to dilate to keep it from closing.

I don't have any evidence of this, but I suspect that among people who are attracted to transsexuals, there are more who prefer pre-op to post-op. I suspect they like the exotic perversion of a woman with a penis. If the transsexual removes his penis, then his special quality is gone, and he will now not only be rejected by normal people, but also by most people who are attracted to transsexuals.

I also suspect some transsexuals are struggling with knowing deep down that what they are doing is wrong, and they are subconsciously afraid to go further past the point of no return.

Also, I think there are some teenagers and college students now who aren't very serious about being transsexual, and are just dressing as the opposite sex, experimenting sexually, and calling themselves transsexual (or non-binary, gender fluid, etc.) because they want to be edgy and be part of a group that gets special attention in media and academia.
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