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RE: The EU/European politics thread
This whole current election for the EU parliament is cool and all, but its practically quite useless.

The EU parliament literally has no real practical power at all.

All that power is in the hands of the EU commission which is completely un-elected and appointed. Basically, Jean Claude Juncker is literally the man that leads the EU even though he's completely un-elected. Since he's leaving by the end of this year, whoever replaces him will be the person effectively leading the EU. This is something that most people simply don't understand, unfortunately.

Although, only the presidents or political parties that have actual power in their own countries and are opposing the EU are also capable of being relevant. This is really why Matteo Salvini and Viktor Orban are the two most serious leaders in all of Europe. Unlike everyone else, they've at least put their feet where there mouths are at by reducing boat arrival migration and by building border fences respectively. All the other so called "right wing" politicians are just talking a lot without doing much of anything in order to simply appease their base for popularity points while still getting EU shekels. Nobody besides Matteo Salvini or Viktor Orban would even theoretically dare to leave the EU, which is why there's a lot of this "reform the EU" cuckoldry going on right now ...

What these people don't get is that the EU is fundamentally un-reformable since the EU is built upon and obsessed with the goal of replacing native European populations through whatever means necessary. It's end goal is essentially the interracial cuckolding fetish of this guy accepted by his elite colleagues ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_vo...ve-Kalergi

Of course, since with the migration crisis and all, its blatantly obvious that this isn't some outlandish conspiracy, but literally the end purpose and goal of the European Union.

Still, its good to see that the EU is growing increasingly more and more unpopular among native European populations, even if its still more popular than it should be.

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You can be a cool guy in many aspects Mikado, but you still lack the genetic material to be french, in the same way I lack the genetic material to be senegalese. We could be the greatest people ever or the worst scumbags out there and this statement would still be true!

(05-27-2019 09:02 AM)mikado Wrote:  
(05-27-2019 09:00 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  ^ You will be sent home eventually Mikado, I think you can be quite sure of that. 5 years, 10 years or 20 years, you have to go back and it will happen for sure.

Because you think I am still not French right now?

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What hope is there for France when 22% of voters are, after all that happened, still voting Macron?

Some promising results coming from UK and if they can carry the momentum to nex parlamentary election and form right wing government, there is still a small glimer fo hope for Uk. Although I think they're beyond saving at this point.
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(05-27-2019 09:23 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  You can be a cool guy in many aspects Mikado, but you still lack the genetic material to be french, in the same way I lack the genetic material to be senegalese. We could be the greatest people ever or the worst scumbags out there and this statement would still be true!

(05-27-2019 09:02 AM)mikado Wrote:  
(05-27-2019 09:00 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  ^ You will be sent home eventually Mikado, I think you can be quite sure of that. 5 years, 10 years or 20 years, you have to go back and it will happen for sure.

Because you think I am still not French right now?

I don't think so, because the history of France is quite tied to its immigration and colonies (contrary to for example Italy or Hungary), and you can perfectly be French without being white. For example, Guadeloupe was French before Nice!

The important thing is my adherence to french history, values, constitution, vision of the future and ties to French people (and I pay taxes here!!). Believe me, I represent France way better than millions of white people (whom don't even know some French historical places, dates, leaders and values!)

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"Currently drinking anti-European Union and anti-Muslim tears" is your sig.

I know right, you represent France really well, much better than all those whites eh.

Even if you cheer on their murderers, slight detail.

(05-27-2019 10:00 AM)mikado Wrote:  
(05-27-2019 09:23 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  You can be a cool guy in many aspects Mikado, but you still lack the genetic material to be french, in the same way I lack the genetic material to be senegalese. We could be the greatest people ever or the worst scumbags out there and this statement would still be true!

(05-27-2019 09:02 AM)mikado Wrote:  
(05-27-2019 09:00 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  ^ You will be sent home eventually Mikado, I think you can be quite sure of that. 5 years, 10 years or 20 years, you have to go back and it will happen for sure.

Because you think I am still not French right now?

I don't think so, because the history of France is quite tied to its immigration and colonies (contrary to for example Italy or Hungary), and you can perfectly be French without being white. For example, Guadeloupe was French before Nice!

The important thing is my adherence to french history, values, constitution and vision of the future. Believe me, I represent France way better than millions of white people (whom don't even know some French historical places, dates and leaders!)

"Christian love bears evil, but it does not tolerate it. It does penance for the sins of others, but it is not broadminded about sin. Real love involves real hatred: whoever has lost the power of moral indignation and the urge to drive the sellers from temples has also lost a living, fervent love of Truth."

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(05-27-2019 10:03 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  "Currently drinking anti-European Union and anti-Muslim tears" is your sig.

I know right, you represent France really well, much better than all those whites eh.

Even if you cheer on their murderers, slight detail.

(05-27-2019 10:00 AM)mikado Wrote:  
(05-27-2019 09:23 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  You can be a cool guy in many aspects Mikado, but you still lack the genetic material to be french, in the same way I lack the genetic material to be senegalese. We could be the greatest people ever or the worst scumbags out there and this statement would still be true!

(05-27-2019 09:02 AM)mikado Wrote:  
(05-27-2019 09:00 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  ^ You will be sent home eventually Mikado, I think you can be quite sure of that. 5 years, 10 years or 20 years, you have to go back and it will happen for sure.

Because you think I am still not French right now?

I don't think so, because the history of France is quite tied to its immigration and colonies (contrary to for example Italy or Hungary), and you can perfectly be French without being white. For example, Guadeloupe was French before Nice!

The important thing is my adherence to french history, values, constitution and vision of the future. Believe me, I represent France way better than millions of white people (whom don't even know some French historical places, dates and leaders!)

If you did not realize my signature was sarcasm, then sorry for you.

However you are talking crap when you say I am cheering for murders. Stop that shit please. You are part of a group on the forum who spreads false information about muslims cheering for murder. If you were honest you would stop pulling these lies out of your imagination.

Islam is the salvation. And will always be.
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Now it's sarcasm? Such a great frenchman that something like that is even REMOTELY funny to you. But to each his own mental escapism and scapegoating. Wink

"Christian love bears evil, but it does not tolerate it. It does penance for the sins of others, but it is not broadminded about sin. Real love involves real hatred: whoever has lost the power of moral indignation and the urge to drive the sellers from temples has also lost a living, fervent love of Truth."

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You are entitled to your opinion about that.

However you are not entitled to lying about accusations of murder cheering. I thought spreading lies on the character of people on the forum was forbidden?

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I make decisions based on available data. It certainly wasn't me writing anything on your profile or on here using your handle.

Long story short, I think we're settled on all this "Frenchman" talk. Big Grin

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(05-27-2019 10:03 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  "Currently drinking anti-European Union and anti-Muslim tears" is your sig.

I know right, you represent France really well, much better than all those whites eh.

Even if you cheer on their murderers, slight detail.

(05-27-2019 10:00 AM)mikado Wrote:  
(05-27-2019 09:23 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  You can be a cool guy in many aspects Mikado, but you still lack the genetic material to be french, in the same way I lack the genetic material to be senegalese. We could be the greatest people ever or the worst scumbags out there and this statement would still be true!

(05-27-2019 09:02 AM)mikado Wrote:  
(05-27-2019 09:00 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  ^ You will be sent home eventually Mikado, I think you can be quite sure of that. 5 years, 10 years or 20 years, you have to go back and it will happen for sure.

Because you think I am still not French right now?

I don't think so, because the history of France is quite tied to its immigration and colonies (contrary to for example Italy or Hungary), and you can perfectly be French without being white. For example, Guadeloupe was French before Nice!

The important thing is my adherence to french history, values, constitution and vision of the future. Believe me, I represent France way better than millions of white people (whom don't even know some French historical places, dates and leaders!)


Whatever. Internet points are useless.

Edit: we sorted this via PM, no bad blood left.

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(05-27-2019 09:45 AM)Zagor Wrote:  What hope is there for France when 22% of voters are, after all that happened, still voting Macron?

Surely some of this 22% is tactical voting?

The former FN destroyed the cuckservative and socialist parties so they had to band together and created a new party and the Rothschild Macron to keep le Pen becoming President.
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Tactical voting, large cities voting and immigrant voting too. Considering all these it's almost impossible that establishment backed parties will become completely irrelevant. It is very tough for Le Pen to be president (even though I could support her party I don't exactly like her, frankly) mostly because of the two round system.


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(05-27-2019 09:45 AM)Zagor Wrote:  What hope is there for France when 22% of voters are, after all that happened, still voting Macron?

Surely some of this 22% is tactical voting?

The former FN destroyed the cuckservative and socialist parties so they had to band together and created a new party and the Rothschild Macron to keep le Pen becoming President.

"Christian love bears evil, but it does not tolerate it. It does penance for the sins of others, but it is not broadminded about sin. Real love involves real hatred: whoever has lost the power of moral indignation and the urge to drive the sellers from temples has also lost a living, fervent love of Truth."

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The only way for RN to win presidential elections would be in my opinion to send someone fresh like Marion Maréchal or Jordan Bardella as candidate.

And also more right-wing parliaments in Europe, to give some momentum.

RN has also the problem of failing to provide strong economical policies, cue the botched debate at the presidential election in 2017.

Sure, they have good arguments about immigration, however today the first priority in France is not immigration, but more like taxes and purchasing power. The Yellow Vests's first revendication is more purchasing power, not reduction of immigration.

Actually, RN would probably get more votes if they focused about the economic aspect of inter-european migrations (like Eastern European workers paying less taxes than French people). If I remember correctly, isn't it what made the Brexit vote win?

Furthemore, the Green party got 13% votes. 3rd political force, way ahead of the traditional right. Why?

Because ecology is a growing concern among the youth. RN has ZERO ecological policies. If you skip the topic of immigration, they have nothing to give. The Green Party is more categorical about this. Don't forget either that this elections were more of a vote AGAINST Macron.

In short, the far-right would have to come with more young figures, brilliant, ambitious and clear proposals for France on a vast list of platforms to win the elections. Relying only on immigration is too short-sighted.

Islam is the salvation. And will always be.
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Mikado, you were born a senegalese, you will always be a senegalese.

If you want to be accepted into French society following the inevitable nationalist backlash, I would personally encourage you to convert to christianity and marry a nice french girl. You'll never be accepted as french as an african muslim. Your children probably will if they're half-french and christian. A friendly suggestion my friendly forum friend.
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As a Frenchman ; I can ensure you that most French people know how to differentiate a correct Muslim who adapted somewhat to France and a total thug like many.most people in France do not have this primitive Anglo-Saxon racist vision.

The problem lies more in how delirious and extremist will the backlash be when white people will start payback . In such moments there isn't much common sense and very quick shortcuts can be taken ; because ultimately those thugs are too many and going way too far.

As for Le Pen ; in my opinion she has two strong weapons to get the "immigrant" vote :

1) the eradication of franc CFA > will be backed by black people
2) the anti Zionist "cleaning " of France > will be backed by "Arabs"

Marion Maréchal le Pen would be more credible as a candidate. A few youngsters are very talented ; Bardella for instance and they should try to bring Julien Rochedy back ; he is somewhat linked to Thierry Baudet Now as he lives in Amsterdam
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(05-27-2019 09:23 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  You can be a cool guy in many aspects Mikado, but you still lack the genetic material to be french, in the same way I lack the genetic material to be senegalese. We could be the greatest people ever or the worst scumbags out there and this statement would still be true!

My personal theory is, in order to be a proper citizenship of any country you have to have a fairly long lineage to that country, like your family has to have been there for generations. Birthright citizenship is silly and it's a no-brainer why it's so easy to subvert western countries. You got a guy or girl who's parents are fresh off the boat, and still have ties to their former country, being born in America who will probably grow up with divided allegiances between that of his birth country and that of his parents birth countries. I'm saying all this as a birthright citizenship recipient.

That's part of why countries like Japan manage to stay homogenous; they have strict parameters of what defines a Japanese person. Even making distinctions between other East Asians (Zainichi, etc.). Now in Japan's case it's a little easier because Japan has remained historically isolated but in western countries where there's been historical immigration I'd say the older the country the longer the lineage required.

Because at the end of the day race isn't the most important distinction, in my opinion; your lineage has to have skin in the game. Race is more like a by-product. I consider African Americans descended from slaves more of a an American citizen than some German guy who was born here but's family has only been here for 50 or so years.

Just a personal theory feel free to disagree.

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The German guy isn't rioting or saying fuck the police even though his ancestors most likely fought the US millitary before he immigrated. Some food for thought.

Longevity on it's own seems useless. Gypsies have been in plenty of European countries for over 500 years. That's twice as old as the USA. The vast majority still does not integrate or become a useful member of society. Instead they scrounge and parasitize off the productive classes. I suppose all these classical liberal lofty ideals of culture over race don't really compute to anyone except Euro diaspora, eh?

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(05-27-2019 09:23 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  You can be a cool guy in many aspects Mikado, but you still lack the genetic material to be french, in the same way I lack the genetic material to be senegalese. We could be the greatest people ever or the worst scumbags out there and this statement would still be true!

My personal theory is, in order to be a proper citizenship of any country you have to have a fairly long lineage to that country, like your family has to have been there for generations. Birthright citizenship is silly and it's a no-brainer why it's so easy to subvert western countries. You got a guy or girl who's parents are fresh off the boat, and still have ties to their former country, being born in America who will probably grow up with divided allegiances between that of his birth country and that of his parents birth countries. I'm saying all this as a birthright citizenship recipient.

That's part of why countries like Japan manage to stay homogenous; they have strict parameters of what defines a Japanese person. Even making distinctions between other East Asians (Zainichi, etc.). Now in Japan's case it's a little easier because Japan has remained historically isolated but in western countries where there's been historical immigration I'd say the older the country the longer the lineage required.

Because at the end of the day race isn't the most important distinction, in my opinion; your lineage has to have skin in the game. Race is more like a by-product. I consider African Americans descended from slaves more of a an American citizen than some German guy who was born here but's family has only been here for 50 or so years.

Just a personal theory feel free to disagree.

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The Gypsies are a great example of how the problem is much more complicated (or much simpler, depending how you look at it). For those 500 years they have been here we had problems with them for what, 100? Maybe less. I remember reading about gypsies in the Portuguese armed forces, serving alongside the natives in the colonial wars. No problem at all. It's only when you introduce mass democracy, egalitarianism and welfare that the problem appears. They lived in their ghettos or were travelling salesmen and there was no problem. Same with the Jews actually. What is needed is a clear understanding that there should be a dominant class, and of who is this class. To be honest, I much prefer gypsies to democratic politicians. At least the gypsies have loyalty to their own. If there was someone enforcing societal rules and castes, they would return to being what they were before democratic insanity.

In other words, everyone should know their place - in the family, in the neighborhood and in society. This is why Salazar aimed to rule the country as if it was a family. If we look at that unit, we understand that there needs to be someone in charge, and the dumb cousin or the drug addict uncle cannot bring the family down as long as the rule of the patriarch is unquestionable.

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Gypsies (and other underclasses) all over Europe are tremendously useful for the ruling class.

While they leech off the social security system, it is nowhere near as what the crooked politicians embezzle in all manner of different ways.

Effectively, politicians giving welfare to gypsies is completely in their self-interest, as the gypos often hog the spotlight and take most of the blame that should instead be directed at our white European politicians...

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It doesn't matter how long a minority community has been in a country. They can still be a hostile and sullen minority. What matters is similarity. Which means similarity of skin color, language and religion.

Skin color can be evened out if language and religion are the same, although this will take centuries depending on the size of the minority community. I remember reading somewhere that around 250 years ago there was a black community in Britain and then by 1900 they had vanished i.e. assimilated into the majority.

Language is harder to give up since it is a source of identity for most people.

But the hardest is religion. For most people, "my" religion or "his" religion is a binary choice. A person cannot travel in two boats kinda logic. Besides this is divine creator and afterlife concept that we are talking about. Economic inducements are unlikely to work for most people who have a decent quality of life or at least live like the majority.
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In my opinion , it will be interesting which first european country will have the balls to deport the most toxic elements of the invaders first.

If one country makes a massive deportation , this could have a domino effect.

A few more terrorist attacks and I think the left-wing globohomo voters will be in favour of this
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RE: The EU/European politics thread
Fertilizers (npk) require oil to be made, and we have less and less of that.

Why deport them ?
They are not toxic for the soil.
Just bury them.
07-01-2019 05:19 AM
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