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  • In the early 90s, NATO made a clear indication that it would not expand eastward. This was a fundamental part of the USSR's agreeing to allow the independence of it's satellites states from the union. NATO continually violated that agreement, to the point where there are now NATO states on Russia's border, and multiple ones which have requested membership status.
  • Russia has a long history of being invaded by Western European countries. Their fear of invasion is historically justified.
  • Ukraine has always been seen by Russia as a buffer state, much like the demilitarized zone in Korea. By launching a false flag during the Maiden massacre and ousting the Russian-friendly Yanukovych, the West declared war on Russia in all but name. Bringing Ukraine into the Western fold and stationing troops on Russia's border gives Russia little time to react to a possible invasion.
  • NATO has been building up large numbers of military forces along Russia's border and conducting military drills for years now. Russia's build up is reactive.
  • The deployment of anti ballistic missile weaponry along Russia's border is a pre-emptive move. This is a violation of the 2002 Strategic Offensive Reductions Treaty, and circumvents the mutually assured destruction doctrine. Defeating an adversary's ability to deploy a retaliatory nuclear strike greatly decreases the probability of using nuclear weapons against them.

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(07-08-2016 06:51 AM)Dantes Wrote:  Russia gets too much credit. Their military is weak and antiquated. This was demonstrated in Syria. Their economy is severely weakened due to sanctions and low oil prices. The standard of living outside Moscow and St Petersburg is third world. They also have their own immigration problems. Try getting a taxi in Moscow, the drivers, all from the middle east need gps to get to very well know places.

Russia has hot and feminine women. All the rest is a smoke in mirrors.

Antiquated?

Why did the Pentagon shit itself when Russia proposed selling its most up-to-date SAM systems to Iran? Why did every plane not belonging to Russia and Syria suddenly turn tail and not go near the areas under Russian SAM control?

Is it because their super-heavy bombers look old? Those things were built to last and deliver the right stuff on target. Nothing a few upgrades can't handle.

How much did the US and its allies spend on a couple of next-gen fighters?

If Russia and NATO face off it will be 2-3 days of conventional war and then the nuke option is considered. If it comes down to it the simple tech on the Russian side will last a lot longer than the new generation of kit the US has been building. Not that it matters who wins the most in a nuclear war.
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If the intention is to finally bring Russia under the west's full control, then we are in for dark times indeed.

I think there 2 things that are very closely linked here:

A coming disaster in the form of the most serious global financial crisis since the great depression of 1929 in which many western countries finally go bankrupt under the tremendous weight of their unsustainable eyewatering debts, and a possible war which is started either to deflect attention from the disastrous financial situation, or to justify everything governments can't do now while people still have cash and are well fed.

Once people who have been well off until now, suddenly are poor and hungry, they will accept anything to have food and money again.
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Yes.

Roosh I agree with your comments but bear in mind that Mr. Putin inherited a weak hand from his predecessors. He's playing it as well as he can. He's playing a waiting game, which is the same that I would do in his situation.

If he lives long enough, he'll win in the sense of not losing. But I perceive vulnerabilities should he be assassinated, or simply not live long enough to finish the game. He needs some under-studies.
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(07-07-2016 10:16 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  NATO countries should make a deal... Konigsberg back to Germany or Poland, in exchange for recognizing Crimea and a treaty agreeing neither Ukraine nor Georgia will join NATO.

Supposedly the Russians offered to give Kalinigrad back in the 1990's but the Germans didn't want it, it being a radioactive naval dump.

Nah, I dont think Putin would ever even think about giving "Kaliningrad" to anyone.
And btw Kali was not all the time German. Before they came, Slavic Pagan tribes lived there for many hundred years.
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Does anyone know if Central Bank of Russia is still under the bankster elite influence or was it nationalised?

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A completely different theory.
Medvedev is the real heir of the Tsarists Empire.
Putin is there to make sure his reign will come. Same for many of the western countries. Quite a number of Royals have not forgotten how the Socialists have treated them (like the Habsburg family).

Meaning: All of this is smoke and mirrors. The goal is to break it all down, show how fraudulent the whole system is. Get the Muslims into Europe is part of the plan. They will attack. After the initial attack, which will be very bloody, the old empires will re-merge.

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(07-08-2016 09:17 PM)Kalkin Wrote:  
Quote:Is Russia waiting for the west to collapse from debts, migrant invaders & feminism ?

Yes.

Roosh I agree with your comments but bear in mind that Mr. Putin inherited a weak hand from his predecessors. He's playing it as well as he can. He's playing a waiting game, which is the same that I would do in his situation.

If he lives long enough, he'll win in the sense of not losing. But I perceive vulnerabilities should he be assassinated, or simply not live long enough to finish the game. He needs some under-studies.

When Putin came to power oil was about $20/bbl and Russia was broke, and was ruled by a gang of oligarchs. Oil subsequently climbed to as high as $120/bbl in the following decade. With all that petrol money, Putin could have cleaned up the economy and the legal system, and rebuilt the country's infrastructure and actually built it into an economic powerhouse. He did none of those things. The price of oil has fallen back to near where it was in 1999, and Russia is broke again and now ruled by a slightly different gang of oligarchs, including Putin. It's also suffering from appalling demographics which make most of Europe and Japan look healthy by comparison.

He's not some visionary genius, just a jumped up former espionage operative who's milked the system for everything it's worth and played to the crowd with a lot of chest thumping. The only reason Russia is even considered a threat today is because Obama has allowed himself to be outfoxed and out-bluffed by Putin.
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Putin is smart, he's strong, he's brave, and he has the power to do something. That's an advantage for Russia, because otherwise their situation is pretty bad.
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(07-07-2016 04:28 PM)Roosh Wrote:  I've started to get doubts on Russia being the shining traditional light that stands up to the USA, not just based on Putin's actions, but through the fact that Russia has a Rothschild-friendly central bank affiliated with the BIS (Bank For International Settlements).

Just like in the USA, Russia's central bank is an independent entity that does not have to take marching orders from Putin, and as you know, the people who control a nation's money supply controls the nation.

In 2009, Putin did a very globalist thing of proposing partnership with the IMF to create a new reserve currency:

Quote:The Kremlin published its priorities Monday for an upcoming meeting of the G20, calling for the creation of a supranational reserve currency to be issued by international institutions as part of a reform of the global financial system.

The International Monetary Fund should investigate the possible creation of a new reserve currency, widening the list of reserve currencies or using its already existing Special Drawing Rights, or SDRs, as a "superreserve currency accepted by the whole of the international community," the Kremlin said in a statement issued on its web site.

The SDR is an international reserve asset, created by the IMF in 1969 to supplement the existing official reserves of member countries.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/a...75364.html

Quote:Why would Putin, a supposedly anti-globalist nationalist leader, want the IMF, a supposedly U.S.-controlled institution, to be the global purveyor and overlord of the world economy? It’s because the IMF is not a U.S.-controlled institution; it is a banker-controlled institution. And Putin is a globalist, not a nationalist.

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Putin’s nomination for a Nobel Peace Prize for his “intervention” in the Syrian crisis is celebrated by many freedom fighters here in America, when, in reality, the Obama Administration’s failure to achieve a war footing in the region had nothing to do with the actions of Russia.

Remember, Russia and the U.S. are nothing but false champions dueling in a fake gladiator match paid for by the IMF. The war against Syria was thwarted because the elites were unable to garner enough public support from the American people to make the action viable. Every engineered war needs a gullible percentage of the population to give it momentum.

http://new.euro-med.dk/20140405-activist...ks-too.php

When Putin speaks of "speculators" he's talking about globalist bankers who determine Russia's fate. He's begging them to stop.

Quote:I’d like to ask the Bank of Russia and the Government to carry out tough and concerted actions to discourage the so-called speculators from playing on fluctuations of the Russian currency. In this regard, I’d like to point out that the authorities know who these speculators are. We have the proper instruments of influence, and the time is ripe to use them.

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/47173

Based on the structure of the CBR, its policies are wholly determined by the Fed and Chinese central bank.

Quote:When a country operates a fixed exchange rate system, it de facto adopts the monetary policy of whichever country issues the currency to which it pegs its own currency. In the case of the ruble, that is the United States. And as I have noted before, because China has large US$ reserves and a currency peg to the US$, the Fed’s policy is to a degree determined by the People’s Bank of China (PBOC). After all, a currency peg has two sides. It is unusual for the pegging country to influence the monetary policy of the country to which it pegs: usually a smaller, weaker country pegs its currency to a the currency of a larger, stronger country, and the larger country simply ignores the smaller one. But the US and China are now sufficiently close in size and strength to influence each other. Both also influence the oil price, and as Russia is an oil exporter, that has significant effects on the Russian economy. In effect, Russia’s monetary policy has until now been jointly determined by the Fed and the PBOC.

This means that the CBR has never really been in control of either the ruble or monetary policy.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppo...how-long/#

In other words, Russia's fiscal policies are determined in great part by it's supposed number one enemy who is supposed to be its anti-thesis! The setup stinks!

The CBR structure means that Russia can only print money based on its foreign reserves, which are determined by its oil sales (it sells oil in dollars). Therefore to control Russia, one only has to tank the price the oil.

Putin is a player in the game. He is not wholly independent as we think, but is constrained by actions of BIS bankers. But as of right now, he has not gone "rogue" by closing up the CBR, and so we must proceed as if he is fully controlled opposition.


There is one thing that is not entirely globalist about Russia's economy. First, Russia has small debt. Second, it has small budget deficit, and it keeps both tight, even in times of obvious fall of oil prices. Every other subverted nation is indebted and spends constantly more than it can afford. Then, Russia has banned GMO, and it actually pursues policy of giving away state lands to it's citizens, which they can become owners of in as short as 4 years .

This is in complete opposition to western globalist policies of stripping people of land and racketing up property prices while increasingly packing people in cities and making a business out of rents. They also promote small farming, as opposed to western style industrial farming.

Perhaps they are offering fake alternative, but at least it is there.

P.S. None of the Jews are in the leadership of Russian Central Bank.

In comparison. last 3 presidents and vice presidents of Fed were Jews. 2% of population - 100% of assholes that sit on YOUR shekels.

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After all, Russia doesn't have to be perfect, only less bad than her opponents. He who screws up the least wins the war and all that.
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Turkey actually just gave the giant Middle Finger to the Israelis, NATO, and the USA:

Straight from the keyboards of the New York Times so it must be true... Giant win for Putin and a wedge being driven through NATO at the Russian strategic connection of the Black Sea to the Med and the Atlantic.

NATO as a North Atlantic alliance is now officially dysfunctional if not DEAD. Actions always speak louder than words. Turkey is now Allied with Russia and Iran - both Islamic Countries - Israel will be annihilated by this alliance over the next 50 years if not sooner. Start Prepping modern Nuclear Fallout Shelters with Radiation Free Food and Water as we are all going to need them.

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Turkey Gets Shipment of Russian Missile System, Defying U.S.

ISTANBUL — Defying strenuous American objections and the threat of sanctions, Turkey began receiving the first shipment of a sophisticated Russian surface-to-air missile system on Friday, a step certain to test the country’s uneasy place in the NATO alliance.

The system, called the S-400, includes advanced radar to detect aircraft and other targets, and the United States has been unyielding in its opposition to Turkey’s acquisition of the equipment, which is deeply troubling to Washington on several levels.

It puts Russian technology inside the territory of a key NATO ally — one from which strikes into Syria have been staged. The Russian engineers who will be required to set up the system, American officials fear, will have an opportunity to learn much about the American-made fighter jets that are also part of Turkey’s arsenal.

That is one reason the Trump administration has already moved to block the delivery of the F-35 stealth fighter jet, one of the United States’ most advanced aircraft, to Turkey, and has suspended the training of its pilots, who were learning how to fly it. (Whether NATO, in turn, might glean some Russian secrets from Turkey’s acquisition of the S-400 is unclear.)

To the minds of Pentagon strategists, the S-400 deal is part of President Vladimir V. Putin’s plan to divide NATO. American officials are clearly uneasy when asked about the future of the alliance, or even how Turkey could remain an active member of NATO while using Russian-made air defenses.

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The US discredited itself After ripping up the Iran deal. Now every country can see that you don’t make deals with a deal-breaker.
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Interesting Article:

A ‘Dark Lord’ Falls in Russia’s Growing Power Struggle

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/13/world...zraev.html

July 13, 2019

VOLGOGRAD, Russia — A veteran law enforcement official, the head of the regional branch of Russia’s version of the F.B.I., acquired such a fearsome reputation in the southern Russian city formerly known as Stalingrad that when he walked into a local restaurant last summer, the other customers got up and left.

“Within a few minutes, the place was empty,” said Vyacheslav Cherepakhin, a local entrepreneur and journalist. “Everyone in the city was afraid of him.”

Last month, however, the official, Mikhail K. Muzraev, was forced from his car at gunpoint near his home in the city now called Volgograd by a team of heavily armed men sent from Moscow by Russia’s Federal Security Service, or F.S.B., the main successor agency to the K.G.B. He was flown to Moscow and jailed the same day.

Mr. Muzraev’s arrest roiled an uneasy balance at the heart of President Vladimir V. Putin’s rule among the so-called siloviki — a vast network of security, intelligence and military officials whose power, resources and clan rivalries have grown steadily at a time when Russia is starting to ask what will happen when the president’s ostensibly final term runs out in 2024.

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(07-14-2019 12:41 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  The US discredited itself After ripping up the Iran deal. Now every country can see that you don’t make deals with a deal-breaker.

There NEVER was an "Iran Deal" - No Signed Treaty, No ratification by Congress and the Senate - Just a useless Obama Executive Order as an excuse to raid the dormant frozen US Bank accounts of the Shah and spread around $150 Billion of so called frozen Iranian wealth plus interest after the overthrow of the Shah and seizure of the US Embassy hostages. This money was then used to bribe NATO/EU countries via Tehran to support trade with Iran and to support Hillary as Obama's next in line. A complete and total fuster-cluck.

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July 14th: Turkey fired a Bora – a ballistic missile based on a Chinese design – at Kurdish militants in northern Iraq.

Hurriyet turkish news site:
"Turkey never forgets that her allies left her alone in time of crisis in critical times during the last 10 years."
"From Ankara’s point of view, only a radical change in the American PKK-YPG policy can trigger a review in Turkish-Russian partnership."

"Turkey is also aware of the problems of depending on Russia too much. This policy has its own problems. Turkey has to manage deteriorating relations with the West while developing relations with Russia at the same time. But ongoing support of some European countries’ and the U.S.’s to the PKK and its affiliates strengthen Turkey’s determination."

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Russia isn't waiting for the west collapse from debts, migrant invaders and feminism to invade much of anything. The truth about Russia is that it is neither some kind of supremely evil powerhouse that is somehow collapsing because of large muslim numbers at the same time, or some great haven of morality and site of salvation for European civilization. Most people either simply project their fears or hopes onto Russia depending upon the inclinations of certain people. The truth is much more nuanced and lies inbetween.

In many ways, it's not just Russia that's waiting for the West to collapse in on itself from debts, migrant invaders and feminism, it's literally everyone in the world. It's even dissidents in the West as well who are waiting for the chronic dysfunctions from the current system to become so intense that it ceases to function and after a transition period, rebuild their society into something decent that actually has a future and is based upon healthy, moral and functional foundations. Just like everyone else in the world, the Russians are waiting for the inevitable collapse to be able to sort out all their issues from economics, hostile neighbor states, demographics and so on without the USA and Globo-homo breathing down their neck. Literally nearly everybody in the world sees the catastrophic and chaotic collapse that's coming in the West, especially in the USA. Even US allies like the Turks and Japanese are distancing themselves from the USA, and with good reason.

Still, it's too early for everyone to think about all the great things they're going to be able to do once the current world order declines, the transition period happens and everything becomes rebalanced. They first have to think about how they're going to survive the transition period and how exactly it's going to go down.

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