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(06-19-2017 12:21 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  
(06-19-2017 12:06 PM)Teedub Wrote:  Idiots on twitter are blaming him for the truck attack against muslims...when in reality he's been warning for years that inept governments will create vigilante violence. It's like saying to someone in 1935 who said "Hitler is dangerous, if we don't fight him now it's going to get really bad"..."OMG, you're just as bad as Hitler you Nazi".

He's the bravest man in Britain, maybe Europe, bar none. I'd follow him into battle, and I'm not joking.

Yeah - but guys like that are blocked from power or even killed whenever they come into vicinity of true leadership positions.

They only want bootlickers, traitors or psychopaths at the top - completely clueless degenerates are fine too.

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(06-19-2017 12:23 PM)Teedub Wrote:  If Tommy Robinson was killed, I reckon there would be a bigger backlash than the establishment/media would like to think.

Braveheart Wrote:His head was set on London Bridge, his arms and legs sent to the four corners of Britain as a warning. It did not have the effect that Longshanks intended.

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(06-19-2017 12:21 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  They only want bootlickers, traitors or psychopaths at the top - completely clueless degenerates are fine too.

Come on, leave Merkel, Hollande, Obama, and Hillary out of this ;-)

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Vox Day Wrote:Don't. Talk. To. The. Media.

Tommy Robinson is the latest to learn that it is a bad idea, even when it's live television:

Quote:Piers Morgan blasted former English Defence League leader Tommy Robinson for being a “bigoted lunatic stirring up hatred” as he clashed with the right-wing activist this morning.

As Robinson pulled out a copy of the Koran on Good Morning Britain, Piers blasted him, saying: “Show some damn respect for people’s religious beliefs.“You’re sounding like a complete lunatic. You’re sounding like a bigoted lunatic.

“You’re stirring up hatred.

“You’re being a complete disgrace.”

Holding up the Koran, Robinson branded it a “violent and cursed book” and said: “This book is the reason we are in such a mess.”

Piers responded: “We’re in this mess because people take Islam, they are terrorists and they abuse the nature of Islam and… perpetrate evil.”

And the former EDL leader refused to accept Islam was a religion, saying: “Islam is an idea – a bad idea.” Asked if he was Islamophobic, Robinson retorted: “There’s no such word as Islamophobia. A phobia is an irrational fear, it’s not irrational to fear these things.”

I don't know if people's egos are simply too tempted by the thought of appearing on camera or if they truly believe they are smarter than almost every single person who has been summoned to play punching bag before them, but it's remarkable how whether an individual is conservative, Alt-Right, or Alt-Lite, they are drawn like moths to the candleflame of the media's cameras.

Tommy Robinson complained on Twitter:

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Piers Morgan usual technique of not letting the person he is interviewing actually answer any questions. Just...

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Do you really not understand that you were there to be a punching bag? He was virtue-signaling at your expense. Don't talk to the media!

When you are approached by the media, be it Megyn Kelly, Piers Morgan, Wired, The New York Times, or The Atlantic, you must understand that they see you as the content du jour. And the content is always folded, spindled, and mutilated to fit their current Narrative, which is NOT the reason they will give you when they try to get you to talk to them or appear on their show.

Here is the thing. You don't need the media. As Mike Cernovich points out, they need you. It is Piers Morgan whose name is on the headlines because Tommy Robinson was willing to make Morgan relevant today, not the other way around. Who is more relevant and has a bigger platform, Richard Spencer, who leaps to talk to the media, or Stefan Molyneux, who will not even return their emails?

And as both Mike and I have noticed, mainstream exposure doesn't even move the needle. Not in terms of blog traffic, Twitter followers, or book sales. It is probable pain for no gain. Whereas whenever he goes on Infowars or I go on FreeDomainRadio, we see observable bumps in one or more metrics.

In light of this, I should mention that I am modifying my media policy. Previously, I had been willing to answer written questions posed to me by reporters in writing. I have now learned that they will never run those answers because they cannot use them to fit the Narrative. So, I will not be replying to any mainstream media inquiries that do not specifically, and solely, concern either Castalia House books, or games for which I am the lead designer.

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He knew that it would be a hatchet job and an attempt to slander to slander him.

Tommy said so on his Twitter account, but still went. Maybe he should learn more from Cernovich and others, but he cannot be well versed in everything.
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God forbid you have to get on camera, preface EVERY response to a hostile question with this simple phrase.

"Look, (name). I know your bosses have an agenda they want you to push but (insert answer here)."

It will drive them fucking nuts.
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Anybody got a link that works in the U.S.?

I've only found this snippet:




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Fuck Piers Morgan, he comes out with the odd funny thing about wacky feminists and stuff because it's safe and the biggest backlash he'll face is a few mean tweets from Laurie Penny. He won't come out against Islam, because he'll die...I just he was honest that he's motivated by fear.

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< When I watched the interview it was clear that Piers FakeNews Morgan lost on arguments.

So in the end he and his co-host titties simply resorted to name-calling " You are an despicable bigot and Islamophobe etc. etc." He started out in his tirade by the end and most guests let them talk through with it.

He is likely told to do so in the end, so this stays in the consciousness.

The best response as soon as a host does that is to respond in kind and blast out other names to make it all funny:

"You Piers Morgan are a traitor to Britain, a traitor to the British people, you are a despicable worker for the ministry of propaganda. You are pushing idiotic terms like diversity being a strength and Islam-Religion-of-Peace. You are a cuck and you will continue to be condoning the cucking of Britain. You spit on the opinions of Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher to help destroy the very fabric of the United Kingdom. You are a despicable liar who keeps on lying while children are getting murdered and according to you the biggest problem are the fake-news terms of Islamophobia or racism. etc. Muslim terror and Muslim gang rape and countless crimes and assaults, sharia zones, sharia police - those are not the problems according to you because you and your family are not going gang-raped and culturally enriched etc..."

You prepare simply a counter-tirade that you unleash. It is better if it is funny and you simply blast the asshole calmly, but loudly while he goes on in his idiotic tirade. That way the public gets 2 sets of tirades. But it is better to not come off too Alex Jonesy.

I think that those strategies work best - if Roosh ever got invited again to a Dr. Oz lynching, then he should prepare something similar as well and be ready that they all are out there to get him.
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(06-20-2017 11:25 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  Anybody got a link that works in the U.S.?

I've only found this snippet:




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Thanks.

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Molyneux with Tommy in open dialog.

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Mindblown

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(06-20-2017 12:43 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  < When I watched the interview it was clear that Piers FakeNews Morgan lost on arguments.

So in the end he and his co-host titties simply resorted to name-calling " You are an despicable bigot and Islamophobe etc. etc." He started out in his tirade by the end and most guests let them talk through with it.

He is likely told to do so in the end, so this stays in the consciousness.

The best response as soon as a host does that is to respond in kind and blast out other names to make it all funny:

"You Piers Morgan are a traitor to Britain, a traitor to the British people, you are a despicable worker for the ministry of propaganda. You are pushing idiotic terms like diversity being a strength and Islam-Religion-of-Peace. You are a cuck and you will continue to be condoning the cucking of Britain. You spit on the opinions of Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher to help destroy the very fabric of the United Kingdom. You are a despicable liar who keeps on lying while children are getting murdered and according to you the biggest problem are the fake-news terms of Islamophobia or racism. etc. Muslim terror and Muslim gang rape and countless crimes and assaults, sharia zones, sharia police - those are not the problems according to you because you and your family are not going gang-raped and culturally enriched etc..."

You prepare simply a counter-tirade that you unleash. It is better if it is funny and you simply blast the asshole calmly, but loudly while he goes on in his idiotic tirade. That way the public gets 2 sets of tirades. But it is better to not come off too Alex Jonesy.

I think that those strategies work best - if Roosh ever got invited again to a Dr. Oz lynching, then he should prepare something similar as well and be ready that they all are out there to get him.

No, refusing to engage them at all is the better way to go. As I said when people here were trumpeting Cernovich's interview on 60 Minutes as a victory: you do not win against the enemy by fighting on their home ground or on their terms. All MSM interviews by definition are on the MSM's terms. You have no control of the final edit and that's where the real power of an interview lies, because even if you run your words together the editors can still chop and manipulate it how they will. Even if you have your own cameras recording the interview it's weak counterpunching to put up the full interview, because the liberals watching the original interview do not care. It might be handy for your viewers, but they already know the nature of the beast so at best it's just preaching to the choir.

It boggles my mind that Alex Jones doesn't understand this either. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he did not go through the whole Kelly thing as a cynical win/win for the network and himself to boost ratings for them and himself. But even if he wasn't manipulating his audience, the alternative is head-shaking: a supposedly woke dude who distrusts the MSM got cuntstruck by Megyn fucking Kelly and made a serious unforced error by agreeing to be interviewed.

The more effective approach would have been to play Kelly along, get some unflattering audio (or ideally Skype footage) of how she thinks of him, and then post it right up with a shitload of commentary about how they are manipulative and want to bring him in to shit on him. That sort of allegation Kelly could never have refuted because the interview would never have been done. It was stupid, stupid, stupid for Jones to have taken to the MSM at all.

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This is really good.




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(06-20-2017 11:25 PM)Dusty Wrote:  
Mindblown

He's joking around, and has addressed this stuff before. He gets gets called a Zionist shill constantly by various people. He's certainly sympathetic to Israel, but he ain't Jewish.

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Gavin Ashenden, former chaplain to the Queen, is standing up for Tommy.



Gavin is a very rare example of truly red-pilled clergy. He resigned his post over the Muslim girl reading from the Koran inside Edinburgh Cathedral. His guest appearance on James Delingpole's podcast is amazing and well worth a listen. He knows as much about cultural marxism and the decline of western civilisation as we do.

He actually thanked me for a link to Vox Day's darkstream discussion of the necessity for Christian nationalists and new right atheists to become allies. Although Gavin believes the UK church is doomed I feel he offers a ray of hope that there are orthodox priests out there that may join our cause.

As Vox points out Christianity is one of the three pillars of Western Civilisation and we cannot win without it.


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Good to see Tommy gaining in strength and able to bear a grudge:





I know I have a shit list of cunts that I won't rest in my bed till I see them brought up for their crimes against common fucking decency.

(maybe not the best grammar and sentence structure in the world, but I'm about to crash)

Persecuting a man in the fight is one thing. But the police openly persecuted Tommy's kids in this case and they must be brought to book. The cunts that carried out the persecution, and the cunts that ordered it need to be made an example of.

That means British Police Officers on the ground, and those higher up in the command that were just following orders from the politician cunts who would cow us by enforcing bully boy fascism on our kids.

They over-stepped the mark that day.

Not many men are able to fight in this country now. I understand that. You have your porn. Your nice life. Your families and kids, some of you. But some of us have nothing. It's a good day to die.

I hope you take these bastards for everything they have Tommy.

I don't follow leaders. I don't need a leader. But I'd back you up as a friend. All the way.

On another note, good to see you got a dialog with Paula going on.

Things are moving now. Gonna be moving a lot faster soon.

I support the police. But these fucking pigs need to be taught a lesson.

They can not be allowed to target innocent young children and terrorise them. The police are terrorists. Being killed by terrorists. What a world of insanity we have.

There's still time for you coppers. We are on your side. Will you continue to terrorise young children who are innocent? Do you want to wage war on your own people. Speak now, or forever hold your peace. The time is coming. You know where I live...
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(06-21-2017 11:23 AM)Teedub Wrote:  
(06-20-2017 11:25 PM)Dusty Wrote:  
:mindblown:

He's joking around, and has addressed this stuff before. He gets gets called a Zionist shill constantly by various people. He's certainly sympathetic to Israel, but he ain't Jewish.

Don't worry, the truth is much funnier. The founder of the English Defense League...is Irish.
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^ His Mum is Irish, yep.

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(06-23-2017 06:07 AM)Teedub Wrote:  ^ His Mum is Irish, yep.

According to his wiki, both parents are Irish immigrants.
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^ Fair enough, learn something new everyday. But he's done enough for England than most indigenous, and if he wants to be seen purely as English than more power to him. Can't say the same about certain people from certain other groups who are 'English'.

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(06-24-2017 03:05 PM)Teedub Wrote:  ^ Fair enough, learn something new everyday. But he's done enough for England than most indigenous, and if he wants to be seen purely as English than more power to him. Can't say the same about certain people from certain other groups who are 'English'.

It's not that nations can't assimilate quality compatible people, it's that so many people believe EVERYONE is equally quality and compatible. And FWIW, one of the most eloquent defenders of Swedish culture is a Serbian refugee that fled there as a child.
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(06-25-2017 11:43 AM)Ghost Tiger Wrote:  
Laugh3

Psychopath traitor media sells it that he "allegedly" defended himself. They certainly cut the part where the leftie shithead punched or attempted to punch Tommy.

Tommy Robinson was a football hooligan in his younger days. He had dozens if not more fights behind him. Antifa scum does not even compare to that.

Fuck them.


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The mainstream sheisters lie whenever they open their shit-crusted pie-holes or sit down on their fat feminist asses and spout another hit-piece on Tommy.


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We know that the left is advocating for "punching Nazis" - Nazi being everyone who is opposed even to one tiny part of their mainstream agenda.

Seriously - Tommy should consider only going out with security if he can afford it. Then there is someone to shield him from such stuff which will always be misconstrued.
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