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(05-12-2017 09:43 PM)Genghis Khan Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 03:29 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  It would be an act that was entirely inimical with the truths, freedoms, morality, and justice that made this country great and from which we've already fallen a long way. I would see anyone who condoned such acts as my most avowed enemies.

Dude, GTFO with this bullshit. Truth, freedom, and morality aren't what made Great Britain great, relentless conquest and brutal empire-building did. Or did you conveniently forget that the British pillaged India and many other dominions for their wealth?

Your countrymen had no qualms savagely gunning down peaceful protesters a century ago:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre

Quote:The Jallianwala Bagh massacre, also known as the Amritsar massacre, took place on 13 April 1919 when a crowd of nonviolent protesters, along with Baishakhi pilgrims, who had gathered in Jallianwala Bagh, Amritsar, Punjab, were fired upon by troops of the British Indian Army under the command of Colonel Reginald Dyer. The civilians had assembled to participate in the annual Baisakhi celebrations, a religious and cultural festival for Punjabi people. Coming from outside the city, they may have been unaware of the imposition of martial law.

Quote:Dyer was initially lauded by conservative forces in the empire, but in July 1920 he was censured and forced to retire by the House of Commons.[9] He became a celebrated hero in Britain among most of the people connected to the British Raj,[10] for example, the House of Lords,[11] but unpopular in the House of Commons, which voted against Dyer twice

This idea that you hold in your head of "we're better than that" is based on wishful thinking. Your country was made great on the savagery of the British Empire.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/hom...21756.html

Quote:During the Second Boer War (1899-1902), the British rounded up around a sixth of the Boer population - mainly women and children - and detained them in camps, which were overcrowded and prone to outbreaks of disease, with scant food rations.

Of the 107,000 people interned in the camps, 27,927 Boers died, along with an unknown number of black Africans.

Quote:Thousands of elderly Kenyans, who claim British colonial forces mistreated, raped and tortured them during the Mau Mau Uprising (1951-1960), have launched a £200m damages claim against the UK Government.

Members of the Kikuyu tribe were detained in camps, since described as "Britain's gulags" or concentration camps, where they allege they were systematically tortured and suffered serious sexual assault.

Estimates of the deaths vary widely: historian David Anderson estimates there were 20,000, whereas Caroline Elkins believes up to 100,000 could have died.

Quote:Between 12 and 29 million Indians died of starvation while it was under the control of the British Empire, as millions of tons of wheat were exported to Britain as famine raged in India.

In 1943, up to four million Bengalis starved to death when Winston Churchill diverted food to British soldiers and countries such as Greece while a deadly famine swept through Bengal.

Talking about the Bengal famine in 1943, Churchill said: “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits.

I feel disgusted to know that the progeny of the people that conquered my ancestors are so weak. Where are the ruthless Brits my ancestors feared? I miss those Brits, the ones who would've lynched every single muslim in sight if Rotherham happened in their days instead of pussyfooting around about truth, freedom, and morality as if those things were ever applied to non-whites. So sad!

That's not fair. They would have given them trials before drawing and quartering them. Hard to compare considering they would have gone to war (Crusade!) before letting them into England in the first place.
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(05-12-2017 10:48 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  ...
1. Ah, there we go, theocratic authoritarianism rather than the atheistic kind. Personally I find yours more revolting because at least in a secular dictatorship one can eventually die and be freed from one's shackles. Either way, it's two sides of the same coin. Your chilliastic vision is the same in all material aspects as the socialist one. Leave me out of it.

That is a quite extraordinary view of the enlightnement, the defining characteristic of which being a move away from superstition and a move towards reason and the empirical. What you advocate is a return to a time where faith triumphed over reason, a dark age. I find that every bit as frightening, illiberal, and odious as the Leftist alternative.
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Emphasis added. This is where you know that reason has jumped the shark and the debate is all about ego and hyperbole. That post-Independece America would be considered "every bit as frightening, illiberal, and odious" as East Germany when the Berlin Wall came up and 250,000 academics, artists, dissidents or anyone with an IQ high enough to think for themselves were rounded up in the dead of night, stuffed in the back of a truck at gun-point and shipped off to God-knows-where.

Clearly those two states are equally "frightening, illiberal, and odious". Dodgy

Afterthought: The best argument against the fedora-libertarian crowd is to simply stand back and allow the bad men to form gangs and murder them one by one. If they hold that non-aggression and self interest are the highest principles in the universe then they can pray to those particular Gods as they're devoured one after the other. Then the "primitive" Christians can mop up the bad men and get on with the business of rebuilding a safe and decent society.
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(05-11-2017 07:40 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  
(05-10-2017 03:22 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  Not going to be a popular opinion, and Muslim thugs are a tremendous problem with no obvious solution, however, Tommy Robinson is doing exactly what the MSM do with alleged sex pests, including the likes of Brock Turner et al, and assuming that an accusation amounts to a conviction. It most certainly does not. If one is to be consistent then these men must be accorded the same presumption of innocence as the likes of Brock Turner or any other. Fiat justitia ruat caelum.

Forgive me for my naivete, but I'm gonna give Brock Turner more benefit of the doubt than Abdullah, the goat herder from Islamabad with low impulse control.

The cops don't do that. They don't give a shit.

If you write the kind of laws that can be used to chase after Abdullah and hire guys who are willing to enforce it, they'll be equally as likely to go after Brock Turner. Or me.

Fuck that.
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(05-11-2017 08:09 PM)Rigsby Wrote:  Love this shot of the Sikh protesting alongside the EDL.

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(05-13-2017 12:50 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 10:48 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  ...
1. Ah, there we go, theocratic authoritarianism rather than the atheistic kind. Personally I find yours more revolting because at least in a secular dictatorship one can eventually die and be freed from one's shackles. Either way, it's two sides of the same coin. Your chilliastic vision is the same in all material aspects as the socialist one. Leave me out of it.

That is a quite extraordinary view of the enlightnement, the defining characteristic of which being a move away from superstition and a move towards reason and the empirical. What you advocate is a return to a time where faith triumphed over reason, a dark age. I find that every bit as frightening, illiberal, and odious as the Leftist alternative.
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Emphasis added. This is where you know that reason has jumped the shark and the debate is all about ego and hyperbole. That post-Independece America would be considered "every bit as frightening, illiberal, and odious" as East Germany when the Berlin Wall came up and 250,000 academics, artists, dissidents or anyone with an IQ high enough to think for themselves were rounded up in the dead of night, stuffed in the back of a truck at gun-point and shipped off to God-knows-where.

Clearly those two states are equally "frightening, illiberal, and odious". Dodgy

Afterthought: The best argument against the fedora-libertarian crowd is to simply stand back and allow the bad men to form gangs and murder them one by one. If they hold that non-aggression and self interest are the highest principles in the universe then they can pray to those particular Gods as they're devoured one after the other. Then the "primitive" Christians can mop up the bad men and get on with the business of rebuilding a safe and decent society.

What is this ludicrous characterisation of 'post-Independence America'? The framers of the constitution deliberately crafted the Viriginia Statute for Religious Freedom, the antecedent to the First Amendment, to guarantee a separation of church and state. Jefferson assured the Baptists of Danbury that there would be a 'wall of separation' between church and state - (a great wall, I might add - and one that stopped a nascent society being shackled with all the tedious dogma your faction would see us return to). Your comrade above is quite openly arguing for a religious crusade - he is clear that he would revel in the murder of countless 'pagans'. And yet we are supposed to believe that in the aftermath of this internet LARPing writ large on reality, somehow, the militant Christians will return society and its governance back to a secular state with human progress at its core? I'm not persuaded, and it will take a great deal more than insults, or indeed the rather crudely refracted regurgitation of my arguments through the prism of your apocalyptic world view to convince me that you and those that think like you are the ones to bring about this new enlightened and harmonious age.
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H, it's always worth remembering that the only ones who stand humorlessly and earnestly at the ready to "slaughter pagans" are the Muslims, or all too many of them. All the talk on the other side is just Internet chatter; but these "migrants" mean business, and so does the nihilist Year Zero scum that abets them. These grim realities should never be forgotten.

I have spoken a number of times, including recently, about how the YZ SJW nihilism and the apocalyptic decline-mongering of their supposed opposites are just two sides of the same wretched coin; and this is quite true of the philosophical underpinnings of these worldviews. But one must not neglect to see that on the purely human level there is a great difference. The right is full of more or less tiresome chatterers; the left is ready and even hungry to serve evil. One should not lose sight of the distinction.

There is indeed no need to indulge in absurd fantasies of "mass child rape" or any of that nonsense. But imagine the following situation which has actually happened many times now on the streets of European cities:

You are walking alongside your girl, a beauty that you are sexually in love with and who reciprocates this. You fucked her earlier in the day and are going to do so again later on, and now you are taking her to a place you like where she can glumly and unsmilingly sit alongside you -- with no phone to be seen at any time -- and think about what will happen next time she is back at your place.

All of a sudden you are surrounded by four or five "migrant" thugs. They shout imprecations at your girl because her ass in skin-tight jeans provokes them; they shout them in a disgusting mix of their own jibberish and some broken form of your great native language. And then one of them spits; he spits at your girl and by some terrible magic a great blob of that migrant saliva lands on the solemnly beautiful face that you've kissed and shot semen on so many times. She blinks and turns to you, dazed, without even thinking of wiping it off.

This is, for any man worth the name, a life-ending situation. If you run away or do nothing, the shame can never be erased; the girl is no longer yours, your dignity can never be restored. But you are unarmed and outnumbered, and even if you prevail against them in your rage you may be maimed or put away in prison for a very long time. After all, they haven't initiated any violence.

Something like this has happened to quite a few European men now, and that is a terrible fact. One must think about this, and also think about how meek and peaceful they have been in response, almost without exception. It leaves one with nothing to say.

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H1N1, you are sadly mistaken about the founders of America. They were not secular. Jefferson's Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom contains this great quote:

"... and finally, that Truth is great, and will prevail if left to herself; that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons free argument and debate; errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them:"

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In fact, that very quote is my email signature.

The point of separating church and state is to ensure that the truth is armed with her natural weapons: free argument and debate. And the reason you are losing this particular debate is because the truth is that the Christian culture of the founders had everything to do with the peace and prosperity that the Christian nation of America enjoyed.

Trump at Liberty U:

Quote:'In America we don't worship government, we worship God'

Speaking to a friendly crowd at the country's largest Christian university on Saturday, President Trump told the graduating class that "in America, we don’t worship government, we worship God.”

“America has always been the land of dreams because America is a nation of true believers,” Trump told those gathered at Liberty University.

“When the pilgrims landed at Plymouth, they prayed. When the founders wrote the Declaration of Independence, they invoked our creator four times. Because in America, we don’t worship government, we worship God.”

"It is why our currency proudly declares, 'In God We Trust,'" Trump continued. "And it is why we proudly proclaim that we are one nation, under God, every time we say the Pledge of Allegiance."

Trump’s speech on Saturday was his first commencement address as president.

Trump noted that worshipping God is “why our elected officials put their hands on the Bible and say ‘so help me God’ as they take the oath of office.”

Never been more proud of this great man.

And my God H1N1... isn't it poetic that the God Emperor spake these wonderful words at the largest American Christian university... located in VIRGINIA no less! Surely this is divine providence at work this morning!

Canada (and Britain) would do well to emulate the great example America has set. Canada (and Britain) would do well to put a lot less effort into worshiping government and a lot more effort into worshiping God.

And they will. Christianity is becoming sexy again. Regardless of your revulsion to it, it will rise again. We will all be Alt Right soon.

(05-13-2017 12:31 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  Your comrade above is quite openly arguing for a religious crusade - he is clear that he would revel in the murder of countless 'pagans'. And yet we are supposed to believe that in the aftermath of this internet LARPing writ large on reality, somehow, the militant Christians will return society and its governance back to a secular state with human progress at its core? I'm not persuaded

You would do well to note that the Enlightenment followed the Crusades.

You might also note that the number of fucks we give about what you are or are not persuaded of is precisely zero.

Leonard and I aren't on here arguing for your benefit. We're here to help the people reading this debate who can all clearly see that you've had your ass handed to you. It matters not whether or not you admit defeat. You have been defeated. You little pagan. Of course, if you ever do have your St. Paul moment... know that we will welcome you with open arms... like the good Christians we are.

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Haha I love how Rigsby has gone from a Tommy hater into a full-on advocate, posting videos of his Oxford speech and so on. Believe me mate, from speaking to him one-to-one (online), he appreciates the support of online communities massively. Next time I'm in England, I'll be going for a beer with him, no doubt.

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(05-13-2017 01:26 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  he spits at your girl

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they haven't initiated any violence.

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That's violence bro.

(05-13-2017 01:26 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  But you are unarmed

The founders wrote the Second Amendment for just such an occasion. Spraying these hypothetical antagonists with automatic gunfire would work nicely.

Sure you will probably be charged by the state for acting in righteous self-defense, but speaking from personal experience, fighting specious prosecution by a tyrannical government can be quite liberating and actually lead a man to his St. Paul moment (as it did indeed for me).

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If a man spits on you in (most states) of America, you can

1. Call the cops and report an assault.

2. Brandish a gun.
2a. Shoot anyone who does not allow you to stand your ground.

(optional: if a liberal state like New York or Mass) 3. Pull out cell phone camera and start filming the crime. Have your girl call the cops. If the assailants are non-White then they will probably face more lenient sentencing but still must endure the hell of America's justice system.

Too bad there's no more law and justice in Europe for these sorts of things.

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(05-13-2017 01:26 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  H, it's always worth remembering that the only ones who stand humorlessly and earnestly at the ready to "slaughter pagans" are the Muslims, or all too many of them. All the talk on the other side is just Internet chatter; but these "migrants" mean business, and so does the nihilist Year Zero scum that abets them. These grim realities should never be forgotten.

I have spoken a number of times, including recently, about how the YZ SJW nihilism and the apocalyptic decline-mongering of their supposed opposites are just two sides of the same wretched coin; and this is quite true of the philosophical underpinnings of these worldviews. But one must not neglect to see that on the purely human level there is a great difference. The right is full of more or less tiresome chatterers; the left is ready and even hungry to serve evil. One should not lose sight of the distinction.

There is indeed no need to indulge in absurd fantasies of "mass child rape" or any of that nonsense. But imagine the following situation which has actually happened many times now on the streets of European cities:

You are walking alongside your girl, a beauty that you are sexually in love with and who reciprocates this. You fucked her earlier in the day and are going to do so again later on, and now you are taking her to a place you like where she can glumly and unsmilingly sit alongside you -- with no phone to be seen at any time -- and think about what will happen next time she is back at your place.

All of a sudden you are surrounded by four or five "migrant" thugs. They shout imprecations at your girl because her ass in skin-tight jeans provokes them; they shout them in a disgusting mix of their own jibberish and some broken form of your great native language. And then one of them spits; he spits at your girl and by some terrible magic a great blob of that migrant saliva lands on the solemnly beautiful face that you've kissed and shot semen on so many times. She blinks and turns to you, dazed, without even thinking of wiping it off.

This is, for any man worth the name, a life-ending situation. If you run away or do nothing, the shame can never be erased; the girl is no longer yours, your dignity can never be restored. But you are unarmed and outnumbered, and even if you prevail against them in your rage you may be maimed or put away in prison for a very long time. After all, they haven't initiated any violence.

Something like this has happened to quite a few European men now, and that is a terrible fact. One must think about this, and also think about how meek and peaceful they have been in response, almost without exception. It leaves one with nothing to say.

Mehhh plenty of red towns in North America, Europe and Asia where it would play out like this:

Muzzie spits. Boyfriend pulls out CCW and kills him and any of his friends who try anything. Cops show up, quietly cart off the bodies, and the book is closed on the whole incident with no one ever hearing about it and no one involved going to jail.

Some first worlders still have that mentality. Not just tough talk, but bullets for any outsider who shows up and acts out of line. Of course, they congregate together, vote for a mayor that would never allow a bunch of foreign criminals to be settled in their city, and so the situation of a muslim rape gang attacking a couple never comes to pass. If a few tokens do show up, they're quickly intimidated into subservience by the locals.

But... those guys treat their own like shit as well. That my way or the highway attitude of theirs, if you're a kid growing up there you're pressured into pursuing whatever trash career your dad likes, you can't find any drugs other than alcohol and prescription pills. You can't have recreational sex because behind every hot girl is the risk of an overprotective and violent father or brother. The local cops are empowered to let undesirables get killed then sweep it under the rug, and with power like that they can abuse and extort the locals any way they want. The smart kids all move away and burn bridges, so you're left with a bunch of failing business run by morons and a crappy economy.

It's a balance. If you want to be part of a community that takes a hardline stance against third worlders and their misbehavior, you have to accept, to an extent, being treated like a third worlder yourself.

Maybe it'll change when I get older, but right now that tradeoff is totally off the table for me. I'll stick to the "degenerate" areas where I can live my life the way I want while avoiding the ghettos. That they let third worlders in to live off the dole and attack people who wander carelessly is suboptimal. But even with that, the pros outweigh the cons.
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(05-13-2017 03:07 PM)Highpool Wrote:  But... those guys treat their own like shit as well. That my way or the highway attitude of theirs, if you're a kid growing up there you're pressured into pursuing whatever trash career your dad likes, you can't find any drugs other than alcohol and prescription pills. You can't have recreational sex because behind every hot girl is the risk of an overprotective and violent father or brother. The local cops are empowered to let undesirables get killed then sweep it under the rug, and with power like that they can abuse and extort the locals any way they want. The smart kids all move away and burn bridges, so you're left with a bunch of failing business run by morons and a crappy economy.

You think that holding your family and your community to the standards of that community is 'treating them like shit'?

The final bit with the extortion, ya, that sucks. But without that what you're describing is what a functioning society looks. I wish more places were like that.
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I always geta kick out of people citing the separation of religion and state in America after the war of Independence.

The founding fathers get together and say "we need to make sure there's some sort of circuit breaker so that Classic Christianity doesn't oppress Diet Christianity, Vanilla Christianity, Cherry Christianity or Christianity-with-a-twist-of-lemon.

200 years later the fedora atheist libertarians scream that the founding fathers were determined to protect the rights of jews to foist zionism on the goy and the rights of muslims to engage in (at best) soft jihad against the kuffar.

I'd put good money on the fact that if we could jump in a time machine and explain to the founding fathers what's currently going on in all Western nations they reply "well heck, we never thought the people of America would be stupid enough to allow that to become a problem in the first place..."
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Exactly Leonard. And when the founders did their rough draft of the Bill of Rights, their working title was "The Rights of Englishmen". Then they thought, "Well we better include the fucken French and those drunken Scotsmen (i.e., Canadians) so let's change the fucken title."

Hundreds of years later, leftists would have you believe the founders intended to include Somalians, Chechens, and all manner of assorted "Syrians".

The founders would be outraged.

They did make an error, however. The final title should have been "The Rights of Americans" and then defined strict conditions for citizenship.

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IIRC the Barbary pirates were a perpetual menace during those times.

The idea that the likes of Jefferson were penning the Constitution and the Bill of Rights with the protection of mohammedeans in mind is laughable. They would no sooner have specifically excluded them as they would have specifically excluded jackals and hyenas, considering all such creatures to be presumed by any rational mind as foreign and hostile.
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The idea that the founders wouldn't have excluded Muslims when Blacks are listed as 3/5's of a person proves how retarded the average leftist is.

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Yet this is going to be the defining cross on which the old-right is going to be crucified.

On one side they're going to be stuck with "the constitution provides for a permanent flood of hostile muslim refugees!"

And on the other they're going to be stuck with "the founding fathers were racist and xenophobic and didn't presume to include such people, since they demonstrably saw even Christian blacks as having inferior rights under God, therefore the Constitution was conceived as a racist document and it must die."

And on their honour the old-right will be forced to umm and ahh and pitch and yaw and excuse and qualify until the left has worn them down to an ideological nub of a cargo cult that just keeps making the same noises hoping that those incantations will bring back their cherished freedom. Arguably we are close to that point.

The new guardians of the old ways are coming around to the fact that the old guardians of the old ways are largely a pack of senile, incompetent priests protecting nothing more than the coffers of the church of traditionalism. The right will become a force to be reckoned with once more when they accept that you cannot "reason" with nor "enlighten" people who revel in their animalistic lower self and who's dream of the future involves on a fundamental level the slitting of your throat or the lining of you up against a wall to be shot.

As for those people egotistically strutting the middle ground and lauding themselves as being above such mortal matters, they will find out the hard way that neither the left nor islam recognises "non-combatants" and that they in fact will go after the middle first, hoping to terrorise them into ideological compliance against the right. And their response to a structured and intellectual interjection about the chinks in their ideological armour is going to be met with a bayonet to the guts.
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Well Leonard, H1N1 doesn't want to listen to us, but maybe he'll listen to the lovely Katie Hopkins.

Katie Hopkins Wrote:Political Correctness Let Grooming Gangs Prosper

Grooming gangs have been allowed to prosper in Britain because the authorities are afraid they'll be labelled racist if they speak out, Mohan Singh told Katie Hopkins.

Mr Singh founded the Sikh Awareness Society to encourage Sikh families to act against sexial abuse.

And he said that political correctness had let the gangs succeed.

He told Katie: "I think it is due to political correctness, but it's also down to nobody wants to be called a racist. Nobody wants to call a spade a spade. Nobody really grabbing the bull by the horns and saying "No, abuse is abuse".

"But they don't want to be labeled that we're after one community, we're targeting one community.

"We can can see all the reports coming out Rotherham, the failings of the police, the failings of the local councillors.

"The whole system failed and that's what's been happening for the last 30 years. And it is PC. People are just too too afraid to, you know, just too too afraid to speak the truth."

Furthermore, let's remember that Ayn Rand taught us that reason is not automatic.

Quote:Ayn Rand, Altruism, and Jihad

In fathoming the failure of Europeans to protect their own interests against the onslaught of Islamic jihadism, one is reminded of Ayn Rand's quotation that "[r]eason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it. Do not count on them[.]"

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(05-13-2017 01:26 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  You are walking alongside your girl, a beauty that you are sexually in love with and who reciprocates this. You fucked her earlier in the day and are going to do so again later on, and now you are taking her to a place you like where she can glumly and unsmilingly sit alongside you -- with no phone to be seen at any time -- and think about what will happen next time she is back at your place.

All of a sudden you are surrounded by four or five "migrant" thugs. They shout imprecations at your girl because her ass in skin-tight jeans provokes them; they shout them in a disgusting mix of their own jibberish and some broken form of your great native language. And then one of them spits; he spits at your girl and by some terrible magic a great blob of that migrant saliva lands on the solemnly beautiful face that you've kissed and shot semen on so many times. She blinks and turns to you, dazed, without even thinking of wiping it off.

This is, for any man worth the name, a life-ending situation. If you run away or do nothing, the shame can never be erased; the girl is no longer yours, your dignity can never be restored. But you are unarmed and outnumbered, and even if you prevail against them in your rage you may be maimed or put away in prison for a very long time. After all, they haven't initiated any violence.

Spit back at them and move on.
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(05-17-2017 09:18 PM)Liberty Sea Wrote:  Spit back at them and move on.

Did you maybe not read the rest of the thread?
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(05-17-2017 09:18 PM)Liberty Sea Wrote:  
(05-13-2017 01:26 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  You are walking alongside your girl, a beauty that you are sexually in love with and who reciprocates this. You fucked her earlier in the day and are going to do so again later on, and now you are taking her to a place you like where she can glumly and unsmilingly sit alongside you -- with no phone to be seen at any time -- and think about what will happen next time she is back at your place.

All of a sudden you are surrounded by four or five "migrant" thugs. They shout imprecations at your girl because her ass in skin-tight jeans provokes them; they shout them in a disgusting mix of their own jibberish and some broken form of your great native language. And then one of them spits; he spits at your girl and by some terrible magic a great blob of that migrant saliva lands on the solemnly beautiful face that you've kissed and shot semen on so many times. She blinks and turns to you, dazed, without even thinking of wiping it off.

This is, for any man worth the name, a life-ending situation. If you run away or do nothing, the shame can never be erased; the girl is no longer yours, your dignity can never be restored. But you are unarmed and outnumbered, and even if you prevail against them in your rage you may be maimed or put away in prison for a very long time. After all, they haven't initiated any violence.

Spit back at them and move on.

Ever encountered groups of Arab, Pakistani or African men who did this and were peaceful after you did the same to them?

Inform me when you do because that scenario is nigh on impossible to see less you point a gun at them and tell them to fuck off less you ventilate their heads.

But seeing as these types are mostly in the EU and not US thats a pipe dream so essentially unless they pick on the wrong guy they won't get shit coming their way anytime soon.
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A while back I was stating that if I lived in the EU anywhere near these pockets of rapefugees (why I'm not sure, but let's say that I had a fantastic job and was saving to escape soon) then I would absolutely flaunt the law to acquire and carry a pistol.

Despite a mis-spent youth running around places I wasn't supposed to be at times I should have been home in bed, I have never once been frisked by the police. Between those times and now I have been careful to avoid situations where the police would have cause to look at me sideways, except for several instances where I argued with them on moral grounds wherein I could have just as easily chosen to bite my tongue.

Who among us of the Europeans has been in a situation where they would have been discovered carrying a concealed pistol by the authorities?

And even if you get caught and you're a first time offender you're not going to see the inside of a prison after you make bail.

I said it before. If you're in a situation where you have to deal with these invaders on a regular basis then you need to make a serious risk assessment in regards to carrying a suitable weapon. A risk assessment that does not begin and end with "it's against the law and I might get caught".

These gangs are cowards betting on greater levels of cowardice from the locals. If you're walking towards them and sensing a hostile encounter you merely draw your pistol from a place of concealment and hold it inside your jacket where they can see it but the rest of the world cant then they WILL move on to greener pastures. These people come from cultures where someone who flaunts important laws is either important themselves or a career criminal who has career criminal friends that will get revenge swiftly and violently.

And in any case, nobody, I repeat NOBODY, is going to give you a medal for following the law and thereafter suffering for it.

If you are a man then you rely on nobody else to see to your future. You make no fucking excuses as to why you find yourself in a vulnerable state. You do what you have to do and shed no fucking tears as to how it works out.
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Wow... that video Budoslavic posted...

Aftab Hussain... you can run... but you can't hide.

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