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Coffee and creamer/sugar
Guys,

I've really cleaned up my diet and have been exercising now for a few months. I have definitely made some gains. I did have a very specific question though. I know that refined sugar is bad for and can cause spikes in insulin and other adverse effects. For the last month, I cut out all refined sugar. This meant I also gave up coffee. Why? Because I love coffee but only with creamer.

Here is the thing. I love coffee and I don't really have any other vices if you will. I don't drink and I don't smoke and now I watch my diet. But, I have lost a lot of pleasure from not drinking it. I want to bring it back. Do you guys think, as long as I regulate my sugar intake everywhere else, will using sugar and creamer in two cups of coffee a day be that detrimental to my gains? I'm getting tired of not really eating or drinking anything that I really enjoy.

I hope this makes sense, let me know if not.

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09-27-2016 11:01 AM
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RE: Coffee and creamer/sugar
Bro.

Buy some stevia and walden farms creamer and have your coffee. Stop over thinking things.
09-27-2016 11:10 AM
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RE: Coffee and creamer/sugar
I use Agave and organic heavy cream. Coconut milk works well if you like the taste. I also buy Organic French Roast beans which I grind myself. If you are concerned with acidity I suggest cold-brewing, it eliminates the acidity factor present in coffee.
09-27-2016 11:14 AM
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RE: Coffee and creamer/sugar
(09-27-2016 11:10 AM)LINUX Wrote:  Bro.

Buy some stevia and walden farms creamer and have your coffee. Stop over thinking things.

I haven't tried Walden Farms, I'll look into it. Stevia, however, has a bad aftertaste to me.

Thanks for looking out.

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09-27-2016 11:15 AM
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RE: Coffee and creamer/sugar
(09-27-2016 11:14 AM)AboveAverageJoe Wrote:  I use Agave and organic heavy cream. Coconut milk works well if you like the taste. I also buy Organic French Roast beans which I grind myself. If you are concerned with acidity I suggest cold-brewing, it eliminates the acidity factor present in coffee.

I'll look into it, thanks man.

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Coconut butter, or heavy cream.

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Never used that powdered creamer, it's full of corn syrup solids and other trash. If I must put something in mine it's heavy whipping cream only and maybe a tiny bit of pure cane sugar.

I never thought that black coffee would be tolerable, but it only takes about a month to fully adjust to it.

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This stuff is great but its a little expensive.

[Image: coco-milk-creamer-original.png]

I still haven't kicked sugar in my coffee, haven't looked enough into alternatives and the ones I have seem to be no better. I just cut back to the point where I'm using less then half of a tablespoon per cup.
09-27-2016 11:58 AM
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I would suggest to start buying locally roasted specialty (http://www.scaa.org) coffee that isn't roasted to "char" a la Starbucks smoky/bitter charcoal tasting coffee. Once you do this, you will never add cream or sugar in your coffee ever again. Good specialty coffee has a lot of naturally occurring fruit sugars that should preclude the need for added sugar/cream.

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09-27-2016 12:06 PM
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Ethiopians, the people who invented coffee drink however many millennia ago, reduced bitterness with salt. They didn't know of sugar's existence back then.
You don't need much, just a pinch or so.
09-27-2016 05:28 PM
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Try monk fruit sweetener / sugar. It tastes like sugar with no aftertaste, it's natural (from a fruit) but without the bad insulin spiking effects and other effects of sugar. I use that and coconut milk in my coffee.

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09-27-2016 07:02 PM
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Try wild honey. That's what I use for a sweetener. Almond and coconut butter milk works as well.

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I understand that sugar should be avoided, but what's wrong with adding normal milk (say 1% fat) to coffee?
09-27-2016 09:35 PM
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Coconut milk is great in coffee.
09-27-2016 10:36 PM
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You guys are lucky that I am here.

Just start going sugarless, but get really good coffee.

Start here: http://www.waialuaestate.com/wheretobuy.html

That's a Dole product, but its all natural. Its a far off subsidiary of theirs.

Then let me know. I have the hook up with n all kinds of the worlds best coffee.

Aloha!
09-27-2016 11:48 PM
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Don't drink coffee without some form of glucose. It will fuck with your blood sugar levels. A few cups a day won't hurt you if you do it right. It's the stress response that's most damaging though. Not the small amount of sugar. I'll just leave this here:

Quote:Stimulation Requires Support

Your goal is to avoid the stress alarm from inadequacy of support. The first basic rule is to have coffee with a meal. This delays entry of the caffeine into the bloodstream providing a time-release type effect. A meal is comprised of a protein from an animal and carbohydrate from a plant. Usually animal proteins also contain dietary fat, preferably saturated fat.

Secondly, add sugar or honey and milk, or sugar or honey and cream to the coffee as an additional buffer against low blood sugar. These step ensures that you are providing the fuel necessary to match the press of your metabolic gas pedal. The amounts of each added ingredient will vary from person to person and comes with practice. Keep in mind that the amounts can change over time and in relation to your mental or physical demands.

Thirdly, do not have coffee on an empty stomach or immediately upon waking. At these times, you likely do not have the support needed to match the stimulation. You want to avoid activating the stress systems, not encourage their activation through inappropriate choices. For those who wake and aren’t feeling hungry but have the habit of having coffee prior to eating anything, this practice tends to prolong the effects of blood-sugar relating stress hormones which preferably you want to decrease, and not increase, upon rising.

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(09-27-2016 09:35 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  I understand that sugar should be avoided, but what's wrong with adding normal milk (say 1% fat) to coffee?

Milk has sugar in it--lactose. To avoid it, use heavy cream.

But if you are going to drink milk like starting strength recommends, make it whole milk.
09-28-2016 07:31 AM
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Drinking black coffee is literally considered to be dark triad.
09-29-2016 01:12 AM
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My diet is shit but I throw a little stevia and skim milk in my coffee and it's good. Drink it on ice.

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I use Nespresso Vertuoline. It makes a coffee with a thick cream without adding anything. I then add a splenda and its amazing.
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It's also a bit more expensive, but Nestle sells a "natural" variation of their coffee creamer that has a very short ingredients list. Not sure about where you are at but in my area every non-discount grocery store carries it.
09-29-2016 11:16 AM
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(09-27-2016 11:48 PM)Kona Wrote:  You guys are lucky that I am here.

Just start going sugarless, but get really good coffee.

Start here: http://www.waialuaestate.com/wheretobuy.html

That's a Dole product, but its all natural. Its a far off subsidiary of theirs.

Then let me know. I have the hook up with n all kinds of the worlds best coffee.

Aloha!
Hate to say it. I love America. I love American-made stuff. But Hawaiian coffee is up there with Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee for being well-branded but awful in terms of quality. It's horrendous price to quality ratio is up there with coffee Luwak, or the coffee picked from rodent feces..

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(09-29-2016 05:25 PM)bootyhuntah Wrote:  Hate to say it. I love America. I love American-made stuff. But Hawaiian coffee is up there with Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee for being well-branded but awful in terms of quality. It's horrendous price to quality ratio is up there with coffee Luwak, or the coffee picked from rodent feces..

I have not tried Hawaiian coffee, so can't comment on that, but I tried Luwak in Indonesia and can confirm that it's shit considering its price. Actually, it's literally made from shit.
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Cream has been known to come from cows.
09-29-2016 10:59 PM
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I used to be a coffee addict. Now I drink an occasional cup on weekends, with butter and coconut cream. Agree that it's hard to kick a coffee habit 100%, because it just tastes so damn good. Got the idea with butter and coconut cream from The Bulletproof Executive.

It tastes awesome and is a healthier alternative, give it a try.
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