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(11-27-2016 04:27 AM)d_hzy Wrote:  Go to Warsaw. I like Warsaw a lot. Hit Sketch nite when you are there.

I agree.. Not that I have been there.. but changing locations will give you a breath of fresh air and a mental reset.

Destiny you are learning the ropes of being abroad.

Because you are Asian you will learn that you have to separate yourself quickly as an Asian Canadian so you wont be disqualified from girls as soon as you walk in the room. I have a similar situation here in Germany. Because the Africans here don't have the best reputation in the country I only speak English when im out and about so that girls know im not 'necessarily' one of them.

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I agree with Kirkdiesel. Cut your losses and go to Warsaw. It is a much larger city than Krakow and fewer students so you may do better with the young professional women in their 20s, albeit logistically a mediocre capital city when compared to others in the EU in terms of day-game. Very spread out and even the "main pedestrian street" Nowy Swiat is a bit Yuppie for my liking and still filled with traffic such as buses. In Warsaw though you have so many great malls (especially the one by the central train station) that you should do well. Also, pretty sure your Starbucks game will flourish there Smile
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What area do you guys recommend I book my accommodations in? The old town or somewhere else?
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Day 23:


I was suppose to have a date with that chick who I fucked up on our date by getting drunk and I suspected she was going to flake and as expected when I texted her earlier today to finalize the meeting location, she gave me some bullshit excuse saying she's not sure she has time anymore and has to study. Chicks really only give you 1 fucking opportunity and if you blow that opportunity despite having good previous interactions, they get rid of you.

I started the day with my usual routine but I also needed to get a haircut. Unfortunately the place near my apartment was closed on a sunday so I hit up the mall to get a haircut there. The girl at the front desk told me to come back in like 1.5 hours so I had some time to kill. I approached some brunette standing near the railings with an indirect opener "where can I find a petshop?" but she said she didn't speak and understand English. I then went down a level and spotted a brunette chick seated by a bench so I sat down and within 30 seconds opened her with the same opener and got "I don't speak English" as well as I made a futile attempt to ramble on despite her objection. I headed back up to the main level and then spotted a slightly older looking chick walking slowly by herself. I was on the other side of the railings so slowly walked ahead of her and switched over to the same side and slowed down my pace, waiting for her to catch up. Once she was within about a meter of me, I turned to the side and opened her with the same opener but all of a sudden I see some polish dude right beside her now who I presume was her bf. Wtf? Where the hell did this guy come from? She says she doesn't know even when I attempt to ramble on and leans into her bf to say something to him in polish. I'm glad I went indirect on this target. I then walked around the mall, looking for my next targets but still feeling quite demotivated and tired. I rested for a bit by the railings and then all of a sudden some tall dude approaches me and asks me if I'm doing pickup and daygame. I'm thinking wtf? How the hell did this guy know I was doing daygame? I'm very low key when I do my approaches and there was plenty of time between approaches for him to not even notice. At first, I kind of question him asking him why is he asking me. Then he mentions that someone showed him a picture of me. I'm thinking wtf! My picture! I then question him and ask him if he's doing daygame and he mentions he's from the roosh v forum. I then kind of say maybe I am lol and we shake hands. I think that was very unprofessional to show my pictures to others without first asking me for permission. I like to keep myself anonymous for obvious reasons and you don't see me going around showing pictures of other forum members who I met to others. To the two forum members who showed my pictures to others, that was not cool and I hope that doesn't happen again and you respect my privacy.

After that introduction was done with the guy, he introduces me to his friend, another roosh v forum member. Both guys are from Italy. We chat a bit and then start daygaming together. Both guys go in and do direct approaches and the second shorter guy seems to be doing a bit better although he still gets a lot of rejections with the "I have a bf" line. It was kind of discouraging watching them get fed that line one after another, only making my approach anxiety even worse. I don't remember if I did an approach or not before my haircut appointment but I soon took off to get my hair cut. When I arrived at the place, I was introduced to my hairstylist, some curvy busty brunette with short hair. She had a cute face like a 6.5 but an amazing rack. I could see her cowskin bra through her white shirt. I started to flirt with her a bit but her English wasn't good. I tried to re-engage her a few times but I guess they don't really do small talk here so I gave up after a while. I got a few smiles and laughs from her and then later tried again to deep dive with her asking her how long she's been doing this for. She tells me since she was 16 years old so then I'm like "so then you've been only doing this for 2 years then." This makes her laugh and smile and she thanks me while telling me she's 26. I then try to find out why she choose this field and she was like "hmm... good question." and just tells me she likes it. I think she asked me like two personal questions like where was I from and how long have I been in Poland for. At one point where she was cutting my hair, she had to lean in because of my height and her breasts were rubbing up against the side of my face. I was thinking "holy shit!". I never had a hair stylist rub her breasts against my face while cutting my hair before lol. Truth be told, she wasn't that good of a hair stylist. My haircut was average at best but the price I paid was a premium. I probably could have tried to flirt with her more but I noticed a ring on her finger but it was on the right side though. I'm not sure if that means anything or not but I didn't really try after that. After I left, I soon caught up with the two Italians. The shorter one immediately says to me "ok, lets see you approach someone." and I immediately zoom in on a blonde walking by and approach her with an indirect opener but she says she doesn't know and leaves as I desperately try to ramble on. The shorter Italian does a few more approaches while the taller one I think did 1-2 more before the shorter one says he has go and bids us farewell. I think the shorter Italian said he managed to get 2 numbers or something, although one of them had a bf.

Now me and the tall Italian walk around the mall intending to approach some more girls. As we are walking by, I notice some girl with a long scarf behind us with her luggage in one hand. I do a double take and then open her. "Hey, that's a very nice scarf you have there. Did you make it yourself?" she just smiles and me and then walks away while my wing looks confused that I suddenly opened my mouth and started rambling on.

Fuck, I'm confused about this fucking city. In like 95% of the cases when all these guys use direct openers they are always fed the "I have a bf line or I'm in a hurry/rush or I don't speak English." When I use indirect openers, most chicks say they don't speak English or end up leaving real soon so wtf am I supposed to do then? Also there's a very large pua presence here which I didn't expect. Most of the chicks you see at the mall or even the main square have been approached at least 1-2 times already. Clubs are full of fucking dudes. You have the regular polish guys, the british/irish/scottish stag party dudes, the spanish, hispanics, italians, turks, arabs, africans, and even a few Asian guys. I don't know what the fuck happened to this city in just one year. I don't remember Krakow being this difficult last year when I came here in June. I was getting eye fucked on the streets constantly and even had a chick deliberately bump into me outside of the club Cien, and went out on a date with an Ukrainian model by my second day here. How the fuck can a city be ruined this quickly in only a year?
I think I fucked up with both cities that I selected for this trip.

After that one final approach, me and the Italian guy left the mall and went back to the rynek. I check my phone and the Armenien dude has sent me a shit of messages on whatsapp. He's like I need to speak to you man, I have an emergency, I need a place to stay for the night. I'm thinking wtf? Didn't he already pay for his hostel already. As we are talking, suddenly some guy is like "hey man." and I turn around. Its the Armenian. He's like "where were you today? I didn't see you.". He continues to ramble on about bullshit but I know what he wants. Me and the Italian agree to meet up later for dinner and try nightgame as he leaves. The Armenian is like let's go to Tetro Cubano and talk. I'm thinking in my head "dude, just get straight to the point of what you want." We go the club and he's continuing to ramble on and on about bullshit and then someone he knows shakes his hand and he starts talking to them. Wtf. I need to get home and do some other shit too. Then I get kind of fed up with him trying to run circles around the main reason he wants to talk to me and I whip out my phone and "oh, you sent me a lot of messages earlier, here let me read them." He's like ya, go read them. I then bring up his situation and he tells me the lamest reasons why he needs a place to stay. He's like I've already paid for this place but its so fucking noisy here (no shit man, you decided to stay a hostel right on top of a nightclub) and then is like he has financial difficulties. He smelled pretty bad and had bad breath too. I couldn't let him stay at my place otherwise the stench would stay in the apartment, plus I don't let people who I'm known for a very short period of time into my private residence where all my money, documents, etc are located at. So I offered to pay for a bed for him at stay at for the night at another hostel but this guy wanted to stay at my place but I refused. He made up some excuse saying he called 4 hostels and they were all booked but I said ok, lets just go to one of them and ask so we went to one but they were fully booked but recommended another one close by. This one still had plenty of room plus it was really quiet there. I paid for his bed plus breakfast for him so that he would have something to eat in the morning but I have to say, he was quite annoying and kept on rambling on about his fucking hostel at Tetro Cubano and his shitty job. I told him to just chill the fuck out and to focus on one thing at a time which is making sure he had a quiet place to stay for the night. I soon left him at the hostel to go back home to shower and rinse my hair from my haircut.

I met up again with the Italian guy and we went to a Italian restaurant full of Italians. Upstairs there was even some old dude who sounded exactly like Marlon Brandon from the Godfather lol. We finished eating and then hit up Tetro Cubano. The place was kind of empty today and both me and my wing had huge approach anxiety. I did open two girls by the bar who had there legs resting on an empty chair. I asked them if they were using the chair or not but couldn't come up with something to say after that. My wing wanted to do dance floor game while I wanted to focus more on verbal game at the bar. He went to the side of the dance floor while I headed up the bar. After spending about an hour there and failing to open a single set, I said screw this and left.
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Nice to meet you destiny. Hard times. As i told you yesterday, Krakow has been fucking screwed and overrun by foreigners in the last months, that's why you are experiencing difficulties which are common to many foreigners.
I am sure that an "exotic" foreigner like you wouldn't have any problem if the place was in the same conditions as a couple of years ago. I didn't need day game in the past since I was achieving consistent results in clubs but now it is almost obligatory due to the disaster of the nightlife - having traveled extensively and lived also in other countries, my conclusion is that nowadays in Krakow is more difficult than in Western Europe and having even Polish skills and solid game doesn't help you a lot. I consider the biggest problem here to be the flakes, even in London UK girls were a lot more responsive after exchanging contacts.
By the way I hope you won't give up, this is a great journey out of your comfort zone!
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(11-28-2016 02:22 AM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  Nice to meet you destiny. Hard times. As i told you yesterday, Krakow has been fucking screwed and overrun by foreigners in the last months, that's why you are experiencing difficulties which are common to many foreigners.
I am sure that an "exotic" foreigner like you wouldn't have any problem if the place was in the same conditions as a couple of years ago. I didn't need day game in the past since I was achieving consistent results in clubs but now it is almost obligatory due to the disaster of the nightlife - having traveled extensively and lived also in other countries, my conclusion is that nowadays in Krakow is more difficult than in Western Europe and having even Polish skills and solid game doesn't help you a lot. I consider the biggest problem here to be the flakes, even in London UK girls were a lot more responsive after exchanging contacts.
By the way I hope you won't give up, this is a great journey out of your comfort zone!

It was a pleasure to meet you as well brother. Hope we can game together again soon. Its unfortunate this happened so quickly. I was hoping my luck would have improved here in Krakow but I guess it wasn't meant to be. I don't think I'm going to come back to this city, at least in the near future until my game skills have sharpened up.
11-28-2016 08:21 AM
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Kudos for all the effort you put in, but I cant shake the negativity from your posts. You say fuck or wtf more than you approach girls. I understand where the frustration comes from but you cant solve it like that.

Day gaming in a non-english speaking country in a mall is a bad idea. Try something more low-key. Head to a bookstore or a vibrant coffee shop. Museums are also good bets.

Frankly though I dont think the city is the problem. You said you got lots of IOI and even eye fucked last time you were there. If so, did you bang? If the answer is a no, I dont think any more of these trips is gonna do you any good brother.

You are also in the wrong season. Its getting cold and bitches usually have all settled down with someone they found in summer / autumn, so all the "I have a bf" might actually be legit.

Frankly I think the best course of action is to move from Toronto and settle for a long time in a country of your choice, enough to get a feel for the social ambiance and to establish a social circle / knowlege of venues. Doing pick up and cold approach are hard, and you certainly dont have the attitude of "Im doing this because its fun and I like it" to succeed.

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11-28-2016 11:28 AM
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(11-28-2016 11:28 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Kudos for all the effort you put in, but I cant shake the negativity from your posts. You say fuck or wtf more than you approach girls. I understand where the frustration comes from but you cant solve it like that.

Day gaming in a non-english speaking country in a mall is a bad idea. Try something more low-key. Head to a bookstore or a vibrant coffee shop. Museums are also good bets.

Frankly though I dont think the city is the problem. You said you got lots of IOI and even eye fucked last time you were there. If so, did you bang? If the answer is a no, I dont think any more of these trips is gonna do you any good brother.

You are also in the wrong season. Its getting cold and bitches usually have all settled down with someone they found in summer / autumn, so all the "I have a bf" might actually be legit.

Frankly I think the best course of action is to move from Toronto and settle for a long time in a country of your choice, enough to get a feel for the social ambiance and to establish a social circle / knowlege of venues. Doing pick up and cold approach are hard, and you certainly dont have the attitude of "Im doing this because its fun and I like it" to succeed.

@Dalaran, the OP already mentioned that coffeeshops/bookstores have been unproductive for him and even posted photos of empty shops earlier in this thread. The best course of action is to get out of Krakow and hop on the short train ride to Warsaw. I think a change of scenery will do the OP good.
11-28-2016 08:30 PM
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(11-28-2016 11:28 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Kudos for all the effort you put in, but I cant shake the negativity from your posts. You say fuck or wtf more than you approach girls. I understand where the frustration comes from but you cant solve it like that.

Day gaming in a non-english speaking country in a mall is a bad idea. Try something more low-key. Head to a bookstore or a vibrant coffee shop. Museums are also good bets.

Frankly though I dont think the city is the problem. You said you got lots of IOI and even eye fucked last time you were there. If so, did you bang? If the answer is a no, I dont think any more of these trips is gonna do you any good brother.

You are also in the wrong season. Its getting cold and bitches usually have all settled down with someone they found in summer / autumn, so all the "I have a bf" might actually be legit.

Frankly I think the best course of action is to move from Toronto and settle for a long time in a country of your choice, enough to get a feel for the social ambiance and to establish a social circle / knowlege of venues. Doing pick up and cold approach are hard, and you certainly dont have the attitude of "Im doing this because its fun and I like it" to succeed.

I already tried the coffeeshops as suggested by TripleG. It's mostly dead and empty. As for the bookstores, I already tried that as well. The books sold in the stores are all in Polish and I think it would be kind of weird for me to chat up chicks in the bookstore when they don't sell English books. If you know of a good way of doing this please let me know cause I haven't figured it out yet.

Last year when I came here, I only had a few days and I didn't come here specifically to bang chicks. In fact, I only did like 3 daygame approaches and got 1 date and 2 phone numbers in that short span of time. Also I wasn't quite as game aware as I am now. I did not know how to do kino and physical escalation nor did I even know about logistics. This trip allowed me to practice these things and apply them.

Also relocating to another country isn't easier and I can't just snap my fingers and make it happen. I don't have an EU passport nor do I think I have the work experience and skills for the jobs that are available in Europe. I'm thinking once I return back to Canada, I might try to relocate to Ottawa or another city first. This will allow me to continue to work on my game and hone my skills while I figure out how to relocate to Europe. Next time I land in Europe, I want to be more prepared and ready.

(11-28-2016 11:28 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Doing pick up and cold approach are hard, and you certainly dont have the attitude of "Im doing this because its fun and I like it" to succeed.

Dude that is like a millionaire telling a homeless person to just be happy and positive for being able to make it out alive each day. How can you be happy and positive if all of your previous experiences have been nothing but failure and rejection? Sure I can try to fake it and tell myself "just be happy and try to have fun." but the reality isn't really like that. This is the reason why you see so many people quit pick up within 1-3 months. If it was so fun and positive, none of these guys would have quit. The reason why I continue to grind it out and do this is because I see it as a necessity, a matter of survival, otherwise I would have quit ages ago too cause who the hell wants to experience rejection after rejection and the constant pain of it? I continue to do it so that one day I can go back and tell all of my fucking negative friends who tried to tell me I'm wasting my time and that I should just settle for some fattie that I was right and they were wrong. I want to prove it to myself and others that I have what it takes to succeed and become good with women. I want to show all of these people that I don't need to just accept things the way they are and instead I have the power to change my situation despite the cards I have been dealt with. This is why I will continue to go out each day and continue to approach girls despite getting rejected again and again so that one day I can finally develop the skills to land a girl that I am happy with.
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Quote:@Dalaran, the OP already mentioned that coffeeshops/bookstores have been unproductive for him and even posted photos of empty shops earlier in this thread. The best course of action is to get out of Krakow and hop on the short train ride to Warsaw. I think a change of scenery will do the OP good.

Emphasis on vibrant, but again as I said its getting cold and bitches are getting cold face too.

Quote:Dude that is like a millionaire telling a homeless person to just be happy and positive for being able to make it out alive each day. (snip)

Know how you feel, and I'm not telling you to give up, far from it. What Im saying its that whatever you are doing, it is not working. Einstein definition of insanity: doing the same thing and expecting different results.

You do seem to have basic game, so the countless rejection you got doesnt make sense. Your vibe must be off since even the lame Armenian guy managed to bang and you dont.

You are 31 so I expect you have a solid carreer and skills. If not, thats the problems, not girls. You can indeed move to another city in Canada but I doubt it will be different. Maybe Montpellier? With your skills and being a Canada citizen you can find a job in Europe if you look hard enough.

Like you, I never liked Asian girl. I busted my ass off to get a scholarship for America. After I discover I dont like USA I busted my ass off to go to Paris. I had no friends, no job and no skills.

Another way you can do this is apply to be a student in Europe, its very easy. You should have enough saving to live 6 months in Europe comfortably, working a bit on the side should cover it.

I have to say it again: there are plenty of Asian guys who kill it in FSU, but they are either very alpha or are born there, know the social scene and have connection. You going there daygaming without the white god American factor is very hard. Like WIA said, being Asian means a lot of girls will write us off before we even open our mouth. You need a strategy and a base.

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11-29-2016 05:39 AM
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P/S: can you try going out solo? It becomes very apparent quickly that your wings are worthless and are even cockblocking you.

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@dalaran. It is not about race. You could be chinese-French-american-whatever. They don't really care, it seems you are categorized negatively in this shitty city, even if you speak Polish and have a very good job locally. Flakes are epidemic lately, reaching 90% of the contacts. Yesterday we joined forces with Destiny and ran solid conversations and interactions. He has a good game overall, maybe he could improve in the physical escalation a bit, but I met many people into game in the last years and he is not definitely bad at all. The problem are the girls in this city, it is like hitting a wall even if you are good looking and with game, experience, etc. You can even read in this topic several rejections of players, observed by destiny itself. This is actually a very complicated field, more than England, France and Spain, to mention some countries where I have been for long periods.
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Its certainly interesting and since I'm not there I cant judge, I can only observe the pattern. However, read what he said about the successful PUA Asian guy. He seemed to do pretty well by Destiny's observation. So observe him, befriend him and find out what works.

And no its not easier in France. France and Italy rely heavily on social circle, which is why I'm telling destiny to settle down for a couple of months, if thats the case with Poland.

How about Colombia? Any luck there?

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Day 24:

It was fucking cold outside today so I knew I had to go to the mall to do daygame but while walking there I saw a sign outside of Karmello advertising some coffee and croissant deal. I was eager to give it a try so I headed inside. I was actually surprised, the place was busy although there was no single girls seated by themselves or at least I didn't notice at first and there were several couples also seated together. Now here is where I fucked up. There was an empty seat that one chick had put her bags on that was situated between her and another girl. I should have walked over there and asked her if the seat was free and taken it, but instead I grabbed an empty seat beside a couple near the front entrance. I was just about ready to give up on the place after ordering my coffee and croissant when I spotted a brunette leaning up near the washroom door. She was glancing over at my direction but I wasn't sure if she was looking at me or not. Anyways after seeing her standing there for a few minutes I decided to walk over there and open her while waiting for my coffee to be delivered. I opened her and asked her if she was waiting for the washroom but she gave me a 1 word reply. I then asked if it was the only washroom there. I couldn't think of any other idea on how to continue this conversation and she again gave me a 1 word reply. I thought she wasn't interested and was able to give up but then after waiting a few minutes, she makes this frustrated gesture with her face and I use that to try one more time to engage her and luckily I hook her in. I started to ramble on about how I hated that there's only 1 washroom in places like this. I also mentioned that there was another Karmello and it was smaller and that they should have more than 1 washroom here since its a popular tourist destination and I used the bait that where I'm from they have a lot of washrooms and that I'm not used to Poland. This makes her ask me where I'm from and from there I start to lead the conversation the way I intend it to. We start talking about what she studies and where she's from but then within 5 minutes she drops the line that she has a Italian bf. I'm thinking "fuck!" again? We continue talking and stuff and then a staff member walks by and she grabs them asking them about the washroom and the staff member pulls the knob open and to our surprise it was unoccupied this entire time. I give her this look like wtf you didn't know it was unoccupied this entire time which gets her cracking up while she goes inside. When she returns back outside, I tease her and say "you made me wait ten minutes to use the washroom." which gets her laughing as I go inside. I later see her talking about me to her friend I assume while I leave the place.
But just after returning from the washroom, the couple soon leaves freeing up two seats beside me. Two girls who are friends see it and immediate take the seats. I notice someone had left a binder there who I assume was the couple after they had left and use it to open the girls but I didn't know how to ramble on about it at that exact second so I got like a 1 word reply and the seat was finished.
I'm gonna try and come to this chocolate shop tomorrow around the same time and see if I can repeat this.

After that I headed straight to the mall. Soon after arriving, I receive a text from the tall Italian guy from yesterday saying he's gonna come join me for daygame. We soon meetup and then begin our rounds in the mall. We are both experiencing extreme levels of approach anxiety and unable to approach any sets. The Italian says ok, let me go and grab an ice cream as my pre-approaching ritual and then I will turn into an approach machine and start approaching girls. He grabs his ice cream and sure enough, he soon starts approaching girls but gets blown out quickly in his sets. Meanwhile, I'm still not able to shake off the approach anxiety and tell him I'm gonna go outside and just start going up to random chicks on the street and using a direct opening and immediately ejecting from the set but when I went outside, I couldn't find any targets and it was very cold so I went back in.

I knew I had to do something so I used another warm-up strategy and started to immediately approach people asking for the time. I opened 1 after another after another. I think I approached like 5 people and asked for the time which decreased my AA. Then I stepped it up and tried a indirect opener not intending to stay in set. I approached a blonde short curly hair girl who looked like a 5.5 and asked her how I could get back to the rynek. She was like ok just follow me but I said its alright, you can just point me to the direction. I don't want to take up your time and she insisted on me coming with her so I didn't have a choice. I wanted to just eject from the set but then soon began to run game on her as if on autopilot. I start asking her what she was up to at the mall and she tells me she's just shopping so I ask her what did she get but she's like nothing. I then try to guess if she's a student or was working and she tells me she studies culture management or something but then reveals she wants to be a singer so I start to tease her on the escalator as we are going down. "can you sing me a song right now? It would really make my day." I tease her. She's like I'm shy and stuff and I'm like that doesn't make sense. You want to be a singer. I then tease her some more and tell her people will film her and put it on youtube and she will become famous. I also tell her to write her autograph on my hand and that I won't wash it for 5 years and then I will copy it onto something and sell it for a lot of money. She soon points me to the rynek while she goes in another direction as I wait for her to leave and then head back to the mall. When I arrive back, my wing tells me that Giacomo Casanova will be joining us in our daygame session. He soon shows up and we start running game but my approach anxiety has now returned since the long break from doing any approaches. Giacomo Casanova soon starts approaching some hipster looking blonde chick and they go talk for a while but the set doesn't go anywhere. I think he approached 1 more girl while the tall Italian approached 1-2 girls but also got rejected. It wasn't looking good out there for all of us and there rejections was only making me hesitate even more to do any approaches. We continue to walk around and then I tell myself you need to do one approach and then I spot some chick walk by and immediately start following her but when I get close to her I chicken out and abandon the set. The guys tell me they are leaving now but we decide to meet later tonight to run nightgame. I'm feeling like shit for not approaching any girls at the mall. I receive several messages from the Armenian saying he just sold his phone today and wants to talk to me and for me to come to his hostel. I'm thinking fuck this. He already paid for his accomodations at the hostel that he was complaining about being too loud and I already paid for his hostel stay and food last night and even lent him some money. I can't keep on doing this for him and supporting him. I need the money for myself as well. I later sent him several texts telling him to tell his boss to switch his pay overly to an hourly wage instead of being commission only and also to ask for it to be bumped by 2-4 zloty's all the while looking for another temporarily job while he figures out his situation with that company that he interviewed for. This will be more then enough for him to support myself at a hostel and also to get food.

I headed home for a bit after grabbing a bite and soon returned to PILJANIA to meetup with Giacomo and the other Italian. I see that Giacomo is engaged in a two set and immediately jump in to support him after shaking both of their hands. He introduces me into the set, a very attractive Ukrainian brunette and a polish blonde. I start running game on them and manage to keep their interest levels and build attraction. Then suddenly two more chicks show up who are their friends. They are both Italian and this kind of kills my vibe and I don't know how to respond to it but Giacomo soon engages the two Italians. Then the four girls say they are heading to Bania Luka so we follow them. Inside though, they have even more of their friends. I think there was like 4 chicks plus some Portuguese dude. Things feel really awkward for me now but I soon strike up a conversation with the guy and soon after make eye contact with a semi-long haired brunette with a small mole to the side of her noise. I find out she's Turkish and manage to hook up after sitting there at their table feeling extremely awkward with the other tall Italian guy while Giacomo engaged an Italian girl to his right. I continue to run game on her and at one point suggest that I take her back home with me to Canada and that we get married. She engages in my role-play and then I give her a high-five and she slaps my hand real hard. The tall Italian guy is whispering to me that I am doing really good with her. However, more of their friends join the group and I kind of get cockblocked when her friends engage her. Soon all of the girls say they are leaving but there is a debate on where to go. Some want to go Teatro Cubano while others want to go to another club. They debate for a while and then soon start leaving and we follow them but then they decide to go to the other club and Giacomo doesn't follow saying we weren't invited. We abandon the set. It was a shame because I really wanted to continue running game on the Turkish chick.

Anyways we head over to Teatro Cubano and Giacomo leads while I follow. I spot a table besides two different groups of girls by the bar out front and signal to the tall Italian guy about the routine I was telling him about yesterday that would have made it really easy to open the girls and start engaging with them by asking them if they can watch our seats and then say something stupid like "you guys have to defend it with your life ok?" or something but the groups of girls all left soon after before we got a chance to run this routine. Giacomo then spots two Polish chicks by the bar area and immediately approaches them after I ordered a lemonade instead of a beer. I soon jump into the set to support him. Giacomo has solid game and conversational skills spiking interest from both chicks while I supported him. One of the chicks was a tall blonde with some acne on her face. She's not too bad maybe a 6.5 but she appears a little drunk. The brunette was ok too, about a 6.5-7 and looked like Lindsay Shaw. About halfway into this conversation though I was really starting to feel tired and out of energy. Plus the conversation was really dull and boring. The two chicks were boring. Both of them seemed into Giacomo way more then me and I would try to talk about 25-30% of the time while Giacomo was the center of attention. The tall Italian would occasionally jump in here and there. After talking for what seemed like an eternity the tall blonde who was obviously the mother hen told us to lets go dance so we all went to the dance floor. I was getting quite anxious about running dance floor game since I suck at dancing and not quite there yet with physical escalation. Giacomo has his eyes set on the brunette and tells me to go take the blonde so we each start dancing with each of the girls. Giacomo is going good with the physical escalation while I try to glance over and copy him but still feel uncomfortable and unnatural. At a few points during the dance, I kind of grind with the chick and have my hands on her hips and stomach, but then after a few songs, the tall blonde grabs her friend and the move up to another level and start dancing amongst themselves and Giacomo is like they want to dance alone so we ditch them and start looking for new targets. He spots a two set and immediately starts dancing new one of them side by side and soon he grabs her hand and they start dancing. Her friend is kind of surprised and I know the drill even though I'm feeling nervous about grabbing her hands but I do it nonetheless and we start dancing. I actually pulled her in quite close like in a hug like fashion and could feel her bra straps as we start dancing. I have no fucking idea what the fuck I'm doing but whatever. I kind of glance over occasionally at Giacomo hoping to pick up some tips and when I see him spin the girl or do other moves I try to mimic him. I decide to run a little verbal game on her since I'm more better at that and lean into her ear and ask for her name. We exchange a few words but I know its too loud so I don't pursue further. After the song is done though, the two chicks go grab their things and leave. My chick was tall, slightly shorter then me and a dirty blonde. I didn't really pay attention to her face but thought she looked like Isabel lucas on the dance floor. I turn and make eye contact with the tall Italian and he's like your doing good which seems to relieve some of my tension. Giacomo then starts looking for a new target and spots a girl dancing by herself but when he tries to dance with her the girl brushes him off and goes back to her bf who is right beside her. WTF? I tell him that I'm going to go to the washroom and I'll be back. While heading there I spot the drunk blonde and brunette by the side and soon Giacomo is behind me waiting in line. He engages them but they appear disinterested. After taking a leek and heading back to the bar area, we spot the two girls we just danced with stationed by the bar and he immediately re-engages them. I think this is where maybe we made a mistake. He approached the girl that I danced with instead of the one he danced with so I ended up having to keep her busy. His girl was a brunette with a slightly above average face and shorter. She seemed to be carrying around a few extra pounds but nothing to serious. Still bangable. We start talking and getting into each other's personal space. I make some jokes and stuff to keep things like and to elicit emotional reactions out of her. We talk for quite a while but I can really feel my energy levels hitting a critical mass level and about to die out. Then somehow my girl starts talking to Giacomo so I re-engage the girl who I spoke with. I now have a better look at her face and she isn't that good looking and has some acne on her face. Also during the conversation I felt no connection whatsoever from her and we were only able to talk about bullshit boring topics. I keep her company while Giacomo starts to physically escalate on his girl and soon has his hands wrapped around her waist. I can tell she's digging him and soon he grabs her number. My girl sees this and I kind of know the drill as well but I feel like I didn't build up enough of a connection with her to go for the number, however my girl says she knows a friend who is looking for an English teacher and I tell her she can send her over to me and then she is like ok, let me grab your number lol. I grab her digits and then they leave because my girl has to catch a tram in a few minutes. We decide to leave the place at that time and head home. It was almost 2am and I was dead tired.
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(11-29-2016 05:39 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  
Quote:@Dalaran, the OP already mentioned that coffeeshops/bookstores have been unproductive for him and even posted photos of empty shops earlier in this thread. The best course of action is to get out of Krakow and hop on the short train ride to Warsaw. I think a change of scenery will do the OP good.

Emphasis on vibrant, but again as I said its getting cold and bitches are getting cold face too.

Quote:Dude that is like a millionaire telling a homeless person to just be happy and positive for being able to make it out alive each day. (snip)

Know how you feel, and I'm not telling you to give up, far from it. What Im saying its that whatever you are doing, it is not working. Einstein definition of insanity: doing the same thing and expecting different results.

You do seem to have basic game, so the countless rejection you got doesnt make sense. Your vibe must be off since even the lame Armenian guy managed to bang and you dont.

You are 31 so I expect you have a solid carreer and skills. If not, thats the problems, not girls. You can indeed move to another city in Canada but I doubt it will be different. Maybe Montpellier? With your skills and being a Canada citizen you can find a job in Europe if you look hard enough.

Like you, I never liked Asian girl. I busted my ass off to get a scholarship for America. After I discover I dont like USA I busted my ass off to go to Paris. I had no friends, no job and no skills.

Another way you can do this is apply to be a student in Europe, its very easy. You should have enough saving to live 6 months in Europe comfortably, working a bit on the side should cover it.

I have to say it again: there are plenty of Asian guys who kill it in FSU, but they are either very alpha or are born there, know the social scene and have connection. You going there daygaming without the white god American factor is very hard. Like WIA said, being Asian means a lot of girls will write us off before we even open our mouth. You need a strategy and a base.

Well the Armenian fucked a really drunk American chick who worked at his hostel in the wee hours in the morning. I don't know if I would classify that as game though. I found several job openings here in Krakow and was initially thinking about applying for those despite the shitty salary but now I'm reconsidering another city after being here for several weeks and seeing how it is. I'm just looking for a super easy country and don't mind putting in the work. I think its actually better if its not too easy so that you can develop your game but when most of the chicks who you talk to already has bf's or have been hit on multiple times by different dudes through daygame and nightgame, it makes it quite difficult to game here. Its just like in Toronto, there is regularly about 10-20 mediocre rsd pua dudes hitting on every chick walking by the Eaton centre in Toronto. Some of these guys are just downright creepy. By the time you even approach her, she's been approached several times already and her bitch shields up. I'm gonna have to go back home first and evaluate what my options are but definitely I'm going to get the hell out of Toronto.

Social circle is definitely a lot easier and I would imagine I would kill it in a social circle situation since I've witnessed first hand how the Polish dudes interact with girls as well as the other Erasmus guys. Some of them don't even have basic conversational skills and dress like shit with their dirty old sneakers, hoodies and track pants. But this is a long term strategy and I'm here only for a short term now so I need to focus on that first.
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(11-29-2016 08:12 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  P/S: can you try going out solo? It becomes very apparent quickly that your wings are worthless and are even cockblocking you.

I've done that on several occasions already. It was mentioned in this thread several times. I've gone out solo, gone out solo and ended up meeting other guys, and even had wings. I've tried practically everything. Ran game in malls, restaurants, coffee shops, airplanes, bars/pubs, salsa class, clubs, online, even tried to get into social circles but dudes don't want to introduce me to their girls.

I wouldn't say all of my wings are worthless. I have met some good decent wings like Giacomo here who has solid game, A serbian guy who approached like crazy, and a few others that I forgot about.
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(11-29-2016 08:32 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Its certainly interesting and since I'm not there I cant judge, I can only observe the pattern. However, read what he said about the successful PUA Asian guy. He seemed to do pretty well by Destiny's observation. So observe him, befriend him and find out what works.

And no its not easier in France. France and Italy rely heavily on social circle, which is why I'm telling destiny to settle down for a couple of months, if thats the case with Poland.

How about Colombia? Any luck there?

Which one are you talking about? That caveman style Asian guy? He got blown out several times before finally landing a chick in a different venue. He was most likely an approach machine and had to change several different venues although I do have to admit he appeared to have strong frame and was very physical with the girls. He seemed to have 1-2 of the clubs on lockdown as well so I suspect he's been here in Poland for a while but his game was far from perfect. He was fucking around outside on the streets and wasting time talking to dudes while he had the girls with him instead of just trying to get them home as soon as possible before the sexual tension dissipated. His energy level was also extremely high and over the top which I didn't like.
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(11-29-2016 09:19 AM)destiny Wrote:  
(11-29-2016 08:32 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Its certainly interesting and since I'm not there I cant judge, I can only observe the pattern. However, read what he said about the successful PUA Asian guy. He seemed to do pretty well by Destiny's observation. So observe him, befriend him and find out what works.

And no its not easier in France. France and Italy rely heavily on social circle, which is why I'm telling destiny to settle down for a couple of months, if thats the case with Poland.

How about Colombia? Any luck there?

Which one are you talking about? That caveman style Asian guy? He got blown out several times before finally landing a chick in a different venue. He was most likely an approach machine and had to change several different venues although I do have to admit he appeared to have strong frame and was very physical with the girls. He seemed to have 1-2 of the clubs on lockdown as well so I suspect he's been here in Poland for a while but his game was far from perfect. He was fucking around outside on the streets and wasting time talking to dudes while he had the girls with him instead of just trying to get them home as soon as possible before the sexual tension dissipated. His energy level was also extremely high and over the top which I didn't like.

My guess is his 'fucking around' and 'extremely high energy level' is something those girls liked. You say it's "wasting time" while others might say it's "not acting like some needy try-hard". Fact is, a lot of guys that don't pull often think guys like him are pricks and don't like them and the way they behave/present themselves. To some extend, they are pricks. Yet that often is one of the reasons they're pulling girls.

I'm not saying you should be him or mimic him, but I do want to repeat what I said earlier "your posts scream negativity and you don't come across like you're having FUN". I get that getting blown out is not motivating at all and I admire (even envy) your determination and discipline but you just don't seem to enjoy your trip and everything that comes with it. You worry too much, are too outcome dependant and thus your vibe is off.

Go book some extra days in Warsaw, reset yourself and finish your trip with a smile (and a bang!).

I'm positive you will succeed, keep us updated.

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I decided to try a different routine and hit up the Karmello chocolate store and camped out by the seats with my coffee and croissant. Half of the seats were occupied by couples while the rest was occupied by groups. I positioned myself between two chairs so that no couples or groups could sit together and my targets would be isolated. Unfortunately no girl came and sat beside me nor did I see a single girl walk into the chocolate shop. I'm gonna try this one more time and if it doesn't work scratch it off of my list. I met up with the tall Italian and we tried to daygame at the mall because its too cold outside. I warmed up a bit but then on my first approach I got an outright rejection using an indirect opener. Before I could even finish my sentence, the girl is like "I don't understand or I don't know." and just continues walking away. The problem is that a lot of these chicks have been approached already numerous times by multiple guys and now most of them have their bitch shields really high. It reminds me of Toronto. Also while walking around I noticed a lot of chicks already have this apprehension look on their faces before I even approach them. I couldn't do anymore approaches after this.

We decided to try nightgame instead. My energy levels were at an all time low and I felt hopelessness and depression creep in. How the hell am I suppose to game now I thought. Giacomo soon showed up at the restaurant me and the other Italian were eating at and we soon hit up several different student bars like Bania Luka. I grabbed an energy drink hoping it would help boost my energy levels but it didn't help much. My approach anxiety is really bad from the early rejection so Giacomo did all of the approaching. He opened a 3 set and I soon jumped in but couldn't hook the girls. The conversation was boring and we soon left the set. We spotted a 4 set of girls sitting down by a table and Giacomo opened the set. I jumped in a little later as the mother hen threw an ugly blonde at Giacomo and was like she's single, I'm already married even though she had no ring on her finger. She said she was a dentist or some bullshit. Her and the rest of the girls then hid in the washroom and left her friend with Giacomo as me and the other Italian just sat there talking to each other. I noticed another brunette looking at me and I gave her a smile but she didn't return it. The girls soon returned and the mother hen kicked Giacomo out of her seat and her friend is like the seat that I was sitting on was taken and kicks me out of the seat as well. We then try PILJANIA and Giacomo opens a 2 set of really attractive brunettes. Before he opened though, I saw one of the girls notice us and give this dirty look to her friend. Naturally he got blown out soon after opening the set. Girls were full of attitude today, definitely doesn't remind me of the nice sweet personalities of the Polish girls I met last year. We left the place soon after. We decided to try out luck at Teatro Cubano and while walking there, Giacomo opened two girls that just left the club. A blonde and really tall brunette. I soon jumped into the set and helped him. We got some good banter going but it was all surface level talk and after about 15-20 minutes, Giacomo just asks for the blonde's facebook and says he will throw her a celebration party or something and we leave the set. Inside, he opened another 2 set of girls who were wearing a football jersey. The girls were not very attractive and I worked on her friend while he worked on the brunette. My girl had really bad breath and was boring as well. I had to get in close to her while she was talking due to the noise which was horrible. I think she is the first girl who I gamed with really bad breath. We soon ejected from the set as well. I was sick and tired of not approaching any sets so when we left the club, I spotted 4 girls just leave a club and basically speed walked all the way up to them and opened them from the side.

They feighted igorance when I asked them where Teatro Cubano was and just left. Wow! We tried a few other places but it was the same bullshit. At around 2am, I tried to scout the streets for single targets to run gutter game but it was almost empty except for promoters. This city has gone to shit. If you thought I didn't enjoy this place before, I definitely don't enjoy it now. I don't know what the fuck to do anymore here.
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(11-29-2016 09:19 AM)destiny Wrote:  Which one are you talking about? That caveman style Asian guy? He got blown out several times before finally landing a chick in a different venue. He was most likely an approach machine and had to change several different venues although I do have to admit he appeared to have strong frame and was very physical with the girls. He seemed to have 1-2 of the clubs on lockdown as well so I suspect he's been here in Poland for a while but his game was far from perfect. He was fucking around outside on the streets and wasting time talking to dudes while he had the girls with him instead of just trying to get them home as soon as possible before the sexual tension dissipated. His energy level was also extremely high and over the top which I didn't like.

So, basically he has all the qualities and strategies of a successful player?

Quote:He got blown out several times before finally landing a chick in a different venue.

Ask Roosh how many blow outs he gets until he got a lay.


Quote:His energy level was also extremely high and over the top which I didn't like.

You dont like doing something that works, thats fine. But then dont complain that things dont work. The myth of the mysterious James Bond seducer is just that, myth. Unless you are indeed James Bond. You have to be the entertainer, the clown. I myself am an introvert but I can flip my mentality into clown game because its necessary.

On the other hand, if you do find a mysterious, low key seduction technique that works for guys without stellar look/fame/money, please do share.

Quote:The problem is that a lot of these chicks have been approached already numerous times by multiple guys and now most of them have their bitch shields really high. It reminds me of Toronto. Also while walking around I noticed a lot of chicks already have this apprehension look on their faces before I even approach them. I couldn't do anymore approaches after this.

Before he opened though, I saw one of the girls notice us and give this dirty look to her friend. Naturally he got blown out soon after opening the set.

You identify the problem right there... And yet you keep doing the same thing that is proven to not work. Dont you think the girls in the area might already have seen you doing this for a few days now and you are exuding a "creepy" vibe?

We all admire your dogged determination and effort, butthere's no value I can add to the thread. You certainly are very set in your way for better or for worse.

Best of luck in your journey.

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Dude, sounds like Krakow sucks now. Sorry to hear that.

I was in Krakow for a night at the end of October and almost pulled a cutie from Cubano. I remember the ratio was pretty bad early on in the night. But then we went back there around 2am, I think. That was when I met the girl. In Cubano, I found the room on the left when you immediately walk in much better for gaming.

I didn't do daygame at all so I can't comment on that.

Another thing, have you had girls turn their head around to look at you after you walk past them? I had the most blatant ioi last summer in that mall in Krakow and I immediately went back to chase her. Turned out she loves kpop. so... If you attract asian girls, you should be pretty attractive to polish girls who are into kpop, there should be a lot of them in Krakow. In fact, I think krakow might be the best place to hunt kpop chicks. Maybe pay attention to that more and try to find places where those girls hang out.
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(11-30-2016 09:43 AM)d_hzy Wrote:  Dude, sounds like Krakow sucks now. Sorry to hear that.

I was in Krakow for a night at the end of October and almost pulled a cutie from Cubano. I remember the ratio was pretty bad early on in the night. But then we went back there around 2am, I think. That was when I met the girl. In Cubano, I found the room on the left when you immediately walk in much better for gaming.

I didn't do daygame at all so I can't comment on that.

Another thing, have you had girls turn their head around to look at you after you walk past them? I had the most blatant ioi last summer in that mall in Krakow and I immediately went back to chase her. Turned out she loves kpop. so... If you attract asian girls, you should be pretty attractive to polish girls who are into kpop, there should be a lot of them in Krakow. In fact, I think krakow might be the best place to hunt kpop chicks. Maybe pay attention to that more and try to find places where those girls hang out.

I've been telling my wings that to try and game in that little bar on the left. I came up with a routine to open chicks there with a wing or perhaps I should just go right up to groups of chicks and open with "hey, how's your night going?".

I don't think I've seen that happen yet as I don't usually turn my head around after I walk past girls. Last night however, while standing near the tables by the smoking area beside the bar, I noticed a brunette giving me extended eye contact seated with her group of friends while I was talking with Giacomo and the other Italian. I probably should have approached her but I get really nervous approaching groups of more than 2 girls and I don't know how to open them. I wish I knew where all these kpop fans congregated.

Anyways its obvious daygaming in the mall is a bad choice, especially using direct openers. I talked to a few of the guys about maybe heading to another mall but they said the traffic is really low there. I proposed another idea to my wing yesterday that we try to game pairs by the food court by sitting near them and then open them with an opinion opener and then quickly transitioning to something else and then feigning that we can't hear them so that we have an excuse to sit right beside them and start gaming them that way. I'm pretty low key when I approach and wait several minutes as well as I walk around the mall before approaching my next targets but I think my wing has been identified as a pua since he does all direct openers on girls there and has been doing it for a while now. Since he's a big tall guy, its really easy to identify him doing this whereas I like to position myself near the girl by sitting down beside her or leaning up against the railings before opening her making it look less obvious. That might explain why now all of a sudden I'm getting these cold reactions from women as he's usually walking right beside me whereas before I was just walking around solo and never experienced this reaction before.

I'm also gonna switch back to approaching in the Rynek area since I was getting a lot more warm receptions from women there although its really cold there. Also I'm gonna try and go to Cubano earlier too around 10:30pm before all the dudes start showing up. I need to figure out a way to approach the chicks in groups sitting down by the chairs in the smoking area though.
11-30-2016 11:05 AM
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Yesterday was very brutal and these hostile reactions are quite new and unexpected for me too. I feel sorry for the experience of destiny here, but in the end he won't have regrets as he is trying as much as he can.
Frankly I don't know what's happening but my suspect is that due to the foreigner invasion the girls have talked between themselves and there is a kind of tacit agreement to blow out/flake every foreigner. You can feel the "predatory" atmosphere in many clubs here and the nightlife is actually very bad. My opinion is that once the nightlife is screwed in a city, like in a snowball effect after a while also online and day game will get worse. The only thing that might save this city would be a very high flow of female tourists that can balance the terrible ratios in the clubs.
I shall verify if this is a problem of Krakow or it is epidemic in other Polish cities as well.

I agree that the mall seems to be inefficient, but with this weather and snow it is very difficult to run day game on the street. An idea might be trying to go out in Kazimierz in the weekend and check out the various bars, and a couple of hipster spots. Still full of foreigners but at least more mature girls that could appreciate a solid game and people displaying high value, instead of the usual students who have always a very bad/suspicious attitude and are constantly boring.
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Though I have never been to Krakow, I read something bout it, and many of my friends went...I simply refuse to go back to Poland for the simply the purpose of having fun and gaming women. There are much better places than over there.

Nowadays, many eastern european cities are overrun with foreigners chasing women, specially in EU space, but also in some areas of FSU. Wich makes it harder for many players, girls know why guys are there, thats why there is really needed a good excuse to be in those places.

I would say that nowadays, many western european towns are better for the purpose of gaming and banging girls, than many eastern european ones, and mind that this is coming from a biased FSU enthusiast like myself.

Nowadays I would rather go out at night in Lisbon (on a weekday, on weekends all places tend to be a chaotic mess, full of people) than in most EE places...

Also I banged 8 different girls this summer in Lisbon (June-September) only one coming from online game, the other where mainly from gutter-game...(Russia x2, Sweden x2, Croatia, Ireland, Latvia and Portugal = 8) this are quite good numbers for me, since I work daily and have a LTR...and also looking back in my historial...It would be difficult to get these numbers even in Kiev or Moscow, if I was working daily over there, and not on vacation like I tipically do.

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11-30-2016 06:27 PM
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Day 26:

I caught up on some sleep and rested bit. This felt great as I was dead tired yesterday and forcing myself to game. It was fucking cold out today and even snowing quite heavily which made it nearly impossible to daygame in the rynek. Most people chose to stay indoors. I decided to skip gaming in the mall and instead chose to go back to the same cafe that I went yesterday and just camp out there. As predicted, all couples or groupies in the place. Not a single chick sitting alone and I actually had to wait quite a while just to grab a seat beside a couple. After they left, a cute dirty blonde opened me and asked if they could sit there. I only saw her but she said "they" so I assumed there was another person. I immediately started to game her hoping to beat her friend/bf to the chase before they got back and got some good banter in but then within 3-4 minutes her friend a blonde with slightly curly hair and uglier looking cockblocked me and they started to talk in polish while sitting between me and the dirty blonde. I thought the set was ruined but I decided to re-engage again because I waited a fucking long time to get a target and commented that they only had 1 drink and were sharing it. This ends up hooking the set as I continued to ramble on and the girl gets her friend to become engaged in the conversation as well. I hate gaming chicks when there is more than 1. I need to put in multiple times the energy level and work I would need, but I it was a necessity since there was no single targets. I couldn't build much of an emotional connection since it was two chicks I was talking to but I did throw in some teasing into the mix. They asked me why I was in Poland and how long I was staying here naturally and I told them I work as an English teacher and then they started to question me where my school was, what was the name. I told them I also taught private students via Skype and then her friend is like I might need lessons. I figured hey why not? I can make some extra money teaching via skype and asked for my number. I actually wanted to grab the dirty blonde's number so I feignted ignorance on my number and instead asked the friend directly for her facebook as an alternative. The dirty blonde added me on facebook and I even tried to suggest that we all go out for chinese food some time. They soon left after giving me their contact info. I thought I was back in the game but then when I went on my facebook to check out the dirty blonde's page, I found out she has a bf. Fuck!!! This is seriously pissing me off now. Almost every chick has a bf here. I didn't run into this problem in Riga. I scanned the place and more than 50% of the customers were couples there and the streets were littered with couples as well. The place was now dying down and plenty of seats were left. I just grabbed my jacket and left. It was depressing. Can't daygame out in the Rynek due to the weather and snow, the mall's ruined, and night game at clubs/bars is extremely tough and girls are full of attitude now. I went back home and noticed the blonde had added me on facebook. I didn't see her status as listing a bf so potentially I could game her, maybe invite her out to practice her English and then run normal game on her.

My matches on tinder have been horrible but hopefully I can get some of them out on dates before I leave this city. Don't know what I'm gonna do tomorrow though. I don't even know what city to go to anymore in the future. I'm thinking Western Europe might be a better option since all the foreigners are going to eastern europe.
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