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@ destiny, I see Warsaw in your near future. Just buy the train ticket and stop wasting your time in Krakow. Warsaw is a 1st rate city of almost 2 million so you will never run out of targets and places to game. I don't like logistics there (Riga beats it hands down) but "beggars can't be choosers". Also, coffee shop/bar game can be productive in Warsaw and IMHO I think it is way more productive than street approaches just because it feels more natural running indirect game at these shops.
My favorite place to evening game there is Charlotte wine bar with generally good ratios.
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(11-30-2016 06:27 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Though I have never been to Krakow, I read something bout it, and many of my friends went...I simply refuse to go back to Poland for the simply the purpose of having fun and gaming women. There are much better places than over there.

Nowadays, many eastern european cities are overrun with foreigners chasing women, specially in EU space, but also in some areas of FSU. Wich makes it harder for many players, girls know why guys are there, thats why there is really needed a good excuse to be in those places.

I would say that nowadays, many western european towns are better for the purpose of gaming and banging girls, than many eastern european ones, and mind that this is coming from a biased FSU enthusiast like myself.

Nowadays I would rather go out at night in Lisbon (on a weekday, on weekends all places tend to be a chaotic mess, full of people) than in most EE places...

Also I banged 8 different girls this summer in Lisbon (June-September) only one coming from online game, the other where mainly from gutter-game...(Russia x2, Sweden x2, Croatia, Ireland, Latvia and Portugal = 8) this are quite good numbers for me, since I work daily and have a LTR...and also looking back in my historial...It would be difficult to get these numbers even in Kiev or Moscow, if I was working daily over there, and not on vacation like I tipically do.

Agree with this. Also places like Barcelona or Florence are adapt for this purpose, since they attract mainly a female crowd of tourists. It happened a few times that during a conversation I have heard girls telling me I was here because of polskie kobiety. I always answered that I prefer Ukrainian and French girls (being actually the truth).
I am sure that nowadays it is a lot easier to be successful with a Polish girl in London, even with a market in her favor. In London though you don't see the thirstiness and desperation of foreigners like in Poland.
Anyway we should also be innovative and find a new niche far from the ryanair/easyjet radar and not easily reachable by plane. By only taking a bus for a few hours from Krakow, you can be in Lviv for instance, where there are almost zero foreigners from West.
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(11-30-2016 11:50 PM)TripleG Wrote:  @ destiny, I see Warsaw in your near future. Just buy the train ticket and stop wasting your time in Krakow. Warsaw is a 1st rate city of almost 2 million so you will never run out of targets and places to game. I don't like logistics there (Riga beats it hands down) but "beggars can't be choosers". Also, coffee shop/bar game can be productive in Warsaw and IMHO I think it is way more productive than street approaches just because it feels more natural running indirect game at these shops.
My favorite place to evening game there is Charlotte wine bar with generally good ratios.

I already prepaid for my airbnb accomodations until next tuesday. I can't get a refund on it and I don't have much money left in my bank account, only a few hundred unfortunately. I would of course prefer to get the fuck out of this city but I don't want to be worrying about funds when I get to Warsaw. Maybe I'll check out 1-2 days earlier. I'll hit up that place you suggested on my first evening in Warsaw and try to pineline soon.
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Day 27:

I decided to camp out at the Karmello cafe today to run some cafe game since the streets were too cold and it was raining a lot outside. Place was packed full of couples and groupies. I only noticed a free seat beside two girls and immediately opened the one on my right asking her if the seat was free. About 5 minutes later, I noticed a chick sitting down by the leather seats a few feet away but had a jacket on the opposite chair so I assumed she was with someone. The chick to my right has her entire back facing me and is engaged with her friend and I'm trying to figure out how to open her now and then notice she busts out her phone and shows her friend some dude's facebook profile and they start giggling. Then I notice on her wallpaper on her phone has a pic of the same dude. Fuck! She's taken already. I glance back at that previous chick and now realize she is by herself but placed her coat there on the other seat presumably to prevent others from seating down with her. I should have done a better job of making sure that she was indeed by herself when I first got in. Ah well, too late now. Every time someone came into the cafe, I glanced over at the door. At least 50% of the time it was a couple and the other half of the time, it was at least two chicks coming together. What the hell do all the girls who are alone hang out at?

After these two chicks left, I saw three chicks eye the seats but there was only two. Behind me, there was an empty seat that one of the chicks put her bags on. I should have bounce on that opportunity and tried to open the other chick to get the third chick a chair because before I could react, one of her friends asked if that seat was available and then nabbed it. I was out of the running now. They positioned their chairs further away from me and the third chick had her back facing me. After finishing my drinks I left and headed to the mall to do some grocery shopping. I wasted close to two hours camping out at that cafe. Not very productive use of my time.


I didn't really have any game plans for today. While seated down by one of the benches in the mall though just chatting to a friend on facebook, I noticed a brunette with a bullring and purple lipstick wearing hipster clothing sat right beside me. I contemplate whether or not to open her as the approach anxiety soon starts to resurface. I open her before it can get a hold of me with an indirect opener asking about a thai food place nearby. I throw in some more ramble when I notice she doesn't know how to reply and then she starts laughing when I joke about my food choices for the last few days. I get her thinking and starting to invest into the conversation but then her fucking phone rings and I get cockblocked. Within seconds, she says her friend is coming and then gets up and tells me to not forget the name of the place she mentioned and then runs off. I later see her with a dude. What the hell? That interaction went well and I kind of feel good now. Not like that bullshit I experienced two days ago with all that attitude. Within minutes, a blonde sits down. I casually glance over and notice she has a cute face. I hesitate for a bit but then force myself to open her as well with the same opener. This one's a bit harder to game as she shakes her head and doesn't appear to want to invest too much into the conversation so I immediately start rambling on, stacking bullshit after bullshit after bullshit until I finally hook her and make the conversation about her by asking her what she likes to eat. Her body language and facial expression has now changed and she seems more into the conversation but then her phone rings and I get cockblocked again. What is it with these phones and always cockblocking me? I heard about Polish dudes being the biggest cockblocks in all of Europe but the biggest cockblocks I have experienced so far in my trip has been the cellphone. She talks on her phone for quite a while and all of that energy I put into the conversation has now sizzled out. She then gets up and starts to walk away and says goodbye to me. Well I suppose that meant the conversation went well before the cockblock. I headed to the grocery store to buy my things and then just left. It was raining heavily outside and I was kind of hungry so I made a pit stop to Gospoda Koko's. It was unbelievable packed for this evening. I noticed a shit tonne of Spanish inside there having their evening meals. There was a boat load of Spanish chicks there and I did receive some eye contact from them. I think every time I have seen a Spanish chick here, she's always in a pack with her friends. There definitely was a drop in quality but I did see a few cuties in the mix there. Not quite sure how I would game a large group of Spanish chicks alone though. This venue might be another option for night game if the clubs and bars are shit but I would most likely need a wingman and have to approach the whole group and win their approval. I headed home after that.

I just had some fattie go cold on me on tinder. I proposed to her that if liked each other's responses after a few questions we could exchange numbers and then meetup. The fatty gives me her whatsapp and then asks for my fb and instagram. After I tell her I don't use them, she goes radio silent. What a fucking waste of my time. I just switched my tinder location to warsaw and now I'm looking up locations to book my accommodations. I had some people suggest that I try and look for a job here since they are hiring and there's quite a number of entry level jobs. Now I'm really contemplating it because I hate Toronto but Krakow seems very difficult to game as well. I'd hate to be living here and putting in all of this work and have nothing to show for it. Decisions decisions...
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Day 28:

Started the day off having to reply to a shit tonne of text messages from matches on tinder but I managed to setup 3 dates with 3 different girls consecutively each day until I leave Krakow. That means tomorrow I will have 1 date, the 2nd on sunday, and the final one on monday. The girls are meh... but I'm doing it for the experience. Two of the chicks though mentioned meeting for coffee though so I'm not sure how I'm going to transition the date from the coffee shop into my bedroom. I'm thinking coffee shop - venue change to bar for a quick drink - then suggest this place like 3 minutes from my apartment for food which I know will be closed at that time and then makeup an excuse saying I need to go to the washroom and that my apartment is just 2 minutes from here and that we can go eat somewhere else afterwards. All these chicks mentioned no ONS on their profiles though so I don't know really know how to proceed to get them to my place. I also told that fatty from yesterday to go fuck herself after I messaged her "thanks for wasting my time." on whatsapp and she went on a rant and then started to swear at me. Later on, I received a message on tinder from her asking if that person who she told to go fuck themselves today was me. What a fucking retard. Gives me her number and then when I message her telling her who I am and suggest meeting up, doesn't recognize me. I unmatched her ass without even replying back. Also after changing my location to Warsaw, I noticed I got a lot more matches. I received 4 matches today just in 1 day of switching locations. This would have taken me at least 1-2 weeks here in Krakow and the girls are better looking too. This makes me kind of wished that I had stuck to my guns and stayed in Warsaw. I could have landed way more dates and since I had practiced a lot of pub/bar game in Riga, I'm sure it would have flourished here in Warsaw with the coffee shops/wine bars.

I hit up Gospado Koko later in the early evening. I wasn't expecting there to be much people there at this time but when I walked in, I noticed the pretty girl who takes the food orders was working upstairs so I sat there. I noticed she changed her hair style today so when I ordered my food I tried to flirt with her a bit and commented on her new hair style and said that it looks nice on her. She ended up giving me the drink I ordered for free. Its too bad that I'm leaving soon, I would have loved to game her. She's very pretty and is totally my type with big round eyes and has dark hair. She took off promptly afterwards and was replaced with another chick.
I decided to skip the cafe today. I did a quick peek through the windows and it was all couples with a few groupies. I decided to hit up the mall to try daygame but in a more passive way. I tried to locate benches to sit down in a high traffic area but ended up having couples or dudes taking up the seats instead. I also couldn't find any chicks leaning on the railings neither. After 1.5 hours I left. What a waste.

I met up with Giacomo and that tall Italian. There was some other tall guy from Greece with them as well. We met up at Teatro Cubano and that place was fucking ridiculously packed. I winged Giacomo on two different sets but we couldn't really hook them. He opened a few more sets with that Greece guy but didn't have much luck. The tall Italian danced with some overweight blonde on the dance floor and he said he even made out with her but then she left. We decided to try a different place and hit up another club across the street which I don't remember the name. It was that same shitty club I went to with the Armenian where he got rejected by the fatties. The place was full of dudes and I didn't really do any approaches there. Giacomo and the Greece dude danced with two chicks but they soon left. We tried Afera afterwards. The place had slightly better ratios but still too many dudes. Giacomo immediately approached some chick who was walking by in the lobby and then hooked her and went off with her while me and the tall Italian didn't really do any approaches on the dance floor. I'm still scratching my head on how to approach chicks on the dance floor. The bar area wasn't really busy and was full of dudes so I didn't camp out there. Later in the night, I saw Giacomo dancing intimately with the chick he hooked and soon they were making out on the dance floor. I also saw another Asian dude approach a two set on the dance floor and he actually had some decent dance moves. One of the chicks showed a slight interest in him by her facial expressions but neither chick would dance with him and he got shut out after a few minutes and left. I was trying to learn some dance moves off of him while watching how Giacomo was escalating on the dance floor to the kiss. Soon Giacomo disappeared with the chick which I assumed he pulled to go somewhere to fuck her but a few minutes later I ran into him. He told me she took off and then we regrouped with the other guys. We spot two chicks sitting by the sofas and proceed to sit near them. Giacomo is like go approach those two girls but I hesitate for a minute. The tall Italian is like, go approach her and this time I grab my balls and go right up to one of them and open her.

I opened her with "you guys look really bored so I thought I would come over here and keep you company.". She immediately smiles and says she doesn't speak Polish, only English which was fine by me. I find out she's from Iran and has been here for two months now. Unfortunately she looked a bit old and was kind of ugly. To make matters worse she had terribly bad breath. Even worse then the one from last time. The place was fucking loud so she had to lean into me every time she spoke but fuck, it stunk so badly. I really wanted to go and offer her some chewing gum. The tall Italian had approached her friend soon after I approached her but he didn't seem to be doing too well. I noticed he glanced over and looked at me with this look like "help me." as there was an awkward silence. His girl tried to cockblock me several times and tried to grab my girl and take her away but she just brushed her friends hand to the side and stayed with me. I wanted to eject the set really badly because of her bad breath but I noticed the girl he was talking to was typing a number into her phone so I thought I would be a good wing and stay in the set. The chick who I was with was totally digging me and even touched my thigh several times and I thought about trying to pull her home but it took everything within me not to reach into my pockets and pull out my pack of gum and shove some into her mouth. After the number exchange was done I quickly excused myself and said I was going to go look for my friends and left her. A few minutes later, I saw her drag her friend onto the dance floor looking for me while I quickly ducked under and ran for my life in the dance floor hoping she wouldn't find me. Just the thought of kissing her vile rotten stinky mouth was sending shivers down my spine. Luckily I never saw her again at the club. Later Giacomo and me ended up running into the chick who he made out with but she was completely cold to him and non-reactive which I thought was strange. I did see her talking to some other dude right after she was done with Giacomo so I thought perhaps that guy had fucked her in the toilet or something and now she felt cheap for being used or maybe she felt guilty because she had a bf, who knows. Giacomo approached a few more sets but they didn't go anywhere. He told me to approach a two set of blondes but I couldn't do it. I didn't know how to do it smoothly. In fact the only way I know how to approach on the dance floor is to just grab their hand and start dancing. It didn't seem to be working for the other dudes there so I was afraid of the rejection. Giacomo ended up approaching the friend and got shut out. We soon left the club and hit up Bania Luka. Giacomo approached two different sets inside but didn't get anywhere. That guy's an approach machine. We then left, and he approached two chicks walking on the sideway with an opener "excuse me, where can I find Lublin?" or something. The Greek dude joined him in the set. We waited for a bit so I told the tall Italian let's go find our own set. I then spotted another two chicks walking by and opened them. "excuse me, how can I get to Auschwitz from here?". My mind drew a blank when I opened them so I just blurted out the the first thing that came into my mind. Luckily I was able to quickly transition it and started to warm up the sets and steer the conversation into the direction I wanted. Unfortunately the Greek dude hijacked my set and then decided to do it his way and the set was ruined. I was kind of pissed.

We headed to another Bania Luka and then the tall Italian opened two chicks smoking before I had a chance to do it first. The set was cold from the get go while they smoked their cigs outside. I soon came into the set and tried to wing him. He was asking a lot of surface level questions right away like what she was studying and stuff and the set wasn't hooking. I tried to inject some humour into the set as the girls were quite standoffish and then started to crack up one of the girls who was rather cold and silent but then some random chick cockblocked the set and I guess I made some sarcastic comment to her about her smoking that put the girls off. The girl said something in polish to the girls and I asked them what she said. She said she was annoyed that someone was telling her to quit smoking. I said it with a smile and teasing vibe but I guess it was too much for them. The girls soon left the set. That was stupid of me to comment about the smoking since they were all smokers, even though I did it in a playful way. The tall Italian said they weren't interested from the get go. We then hit up PILJANIA and Giacomo opens a 4 set. The seating arrangement was very awkward with a round table so only two guys could really talk to the girls. Giacomo talked to two girls on one side while the Greek talked to the other two leaving me and the tall Italian being left out. Giacomo did try to bring me into his two set but they were speaking a lot in Polish and Italian which made it very difficult for me to join in, plus one of the girls was far away from me, making isolation impossible. After sticking around for a while, I said screw it I'm gonna go try gutter game. I hit the streets and walked all around the main square and Fionanka street but Szewska street but found no single targets. All the chicks were in groups of 3 or more and even had mixed couples. After a while I said screw it and walked back into the bar and noticed the guys all alone now. We left the place and then get approached by some bald polish pua guy on the street who starts talking to us. The tall Italian recognizes him and says he works in the same building as him and always gets rejected. We ditch the dude and then I decide to call it a night.
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Positive night despite the usual sausage fest. Hope that your Tinder dates will be successful!
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(12-03-2016 06:11 AM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  Positive night despite the usual sausage fest. Hope that your Tinder dates will be successful!

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(11-30-2016 06:27 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Though I have never been to Krakow, I read something bout it, and many of my friends went...I simply refuse to go back to Poland for the simply the purpose of having fun and gaming women. There are much better places than over there.

Nowadays, many eastern european cities are overrun with foreigners chasing women, specially in EU space, but also in some areas of FSU. Wich makes it harder for many players, girls know why guys are there, thats why there is really needed a good excuse to be in those places.

I would say that nowadays, many western european towns are better for the purpose of gaming and banging girls, than many eastern european ones, and mind that this is coming from a biased FSU enthusiast like myself.

Nowadays I would rather go out at night in Lisbon (on a weekday, on weekends all places tend to be a chaotic mess, full of people) than in most EE places...

Also I banged 8 different girls this summer in Lisbon (June-September) only one coming from online game, the other where mainly from gutter-game...(Russia x2, Sweden x2, Croatia, Ireland, Latvia and Portugal = 8) this are quite good numbers for me, since I work daily and have a LTR...and also looking back in my historial...It would be difficult to get these numbers even in Kiev or Moscow, if I was working daily over there, and not on vacation like I tipically do.

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Lisbon keeps providing...

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Day 29:

So I just got flaked... and she was kind of chubby too. She came up with some bullshit excuse saying her cousin and her husband is coming over for a family party or something. Man, I can never catch a break with these online chicks. I feel a little depressed about it and it makes me feel a bit hopeless about my dating situation but nonetheless I'm gonna hit the mall soon after I book my accommodations for Warsaw and do some daygame. The tall Italian told me yesterday he was going to quit his job on Monday and get the fuck out of Krakow because its making him so depressed here with his lack of results. I told him don't do it yet until you have something lined up. I checked my tinder today and I got 7 matches although 1 unmatched me after I sent her a message. I've already gotten over 50% of the matches in just two days since changing my location to Warsaw instead of Krakow. I think something is seriously wrong with this city now.
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I cannot count the number of foreigners whom I know that left the city in the last year. And other friends will do it in the next months. LOL, I will end up being alone - that is not good since I like spending time with mates when going out in the night. Krakow is no longer attractive in fact due to the barbarization of the nightlife and of the degradation of the dating market. Once you were ready to give away the comfort and salaries of West in order to enjoy the life in EE. Now, who comes here wants to leave straight away, and who has been living in the city for several years and is not married is constantly thinking about a change. The advantage over the West for the girls and the nightlife has disappeared and made inconvenient to work here if you have only a basic entry/level position job. Different if you already have a good job position after years and years of experience locally and local network, in this situation you should reflect well before leaving the city.
What helps is the proficiency of Polish, as you saw I conducted most of the conversations in Polish, and observed what difference it makes for the girls. Not big, but definitely it helps. I found anyway the level of English of the girls in Krakow to be now lower than 4-5 years ago. Girls I met sometimes don't speak any English.

The provocation of Rocha isn't wrong at all. Without speaking the local language, for a short term trip is more convenient go to Turkey (in summer), Spain or Portugal in order to find EE girls. I laugh thinking that there Spanish guys from Madrid and Barcelona in Erasmus here when there are plenty of Polish girls in their city - surely more available than in Krakow.
Rocha as far as I remember speaks fluent Russian and this is a huge advantage when in UA - that's why it is reasonable that he travels over there.
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(12-03-2016 02:08 PM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  The provocation of Rocha isn't wrong at all. Without speaking the local language, for a short term trip is more convenient go to Turkey (in summer), Spain or Portugal in order to find EE girls. I laugh thinking that there Spanish guys from Madrid and Barcelona in Erasmus here when there are plenty of Polish girls in their city - surely more available than in Krakow.
Rocha as far as I remember speaks fluent Russian and this is a huge advantage when in UA - that's why it is reasonable that he travels over there.

Yes, I can speak Russian in a good level, but still far from fluent, it is also an asset in Western Europe, not only in EE. I tend to agree with what you write, and kind of replicates my short experience in Poland.

About Ukraine, I travel there not for the sole purpose of banging girls, I like to have fun there, I love nightlife and those amazing upscale clubs in Kiev or Kharkov full of hot women with sexy dresses, high heels and over the knee boots, with amazing music, ratios and environment where the sky(bar) is the limit... i do not have it here, its a different kind of night of bar hopping and people drinking in the streets, the clubs are nothing compared to Ukraine.

Nowadays I am more surgical on my travels there, and only go with guaranteed pussy, wich I have been able to guarantee over the course of 14 trips over there...

Btw, Slovakian girl was also on gutter game, picked in the street in front of a bar.

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@destiny, I like your trip reports but your expectations are unrealistic and I chukkle every time I read them:

"Two of the chicks though mentioned meeting for coffee though so I'm not sure how I'm going to transition the date from the coffee shop into my bedroom. I'm thinking coffee shop - venue change to bar for a quick drink - then suggest this place like 3 minutes from my apartment for food which I know will be closed at that time and then makeup an excuse saying I need to go to the washroom and that my apartment is just 2 minutes from here and that we can go eat somewhere else afterwards. All these chicks mentioned no ONS on their profiles though so I don't know really know how to proceed to get them to my place."

Even master PUA's here cannot say that they will bang a girl on first meetup yet you expect that and get frustrated that it does not happen. You've had little luck in Krakow and even before meeting these girls you are already writing how you're gonna bring them to your place right after the coffee shop. None of your writings so far have indicated that you have a solid grasp on the concept of kino down...and you have not gotten past first base with any of the girls. So, my recommendation is to slow down and adjust your expectations! Unless you are a super high-energy, physical guy (like the Asian PUA you mentioned meeting at one of the Krakow nightclubs who carried 2 girls outside) you need to take it easy. There is nothing wrong with going on several dates for until you seal the deal. If you try too hard and show the girls your frustrations you will only put them off as all girls there have plenty of options.

Since you haven't even been past the first date with any of the 100's of approaches you made in Krakow you need to play the slow game. Show them a good time on the first date, going for coffee is OK BUT show them that you are different from the swarms of the mosquitoes that surround you (I am referring to all the other foreign guys that are attempting pickup there)...perhaps say a few good jokes, maybe talk about Canada, say a few words of French, take them on an active date (Segway tour through your Armenian friend would be good), go to a concert, anything to get these girls out of their shell and make them remember you. Your goal would be to hook a girl enough where she would be willing to invest a couple hours of travel and visit you in Warsaw next week.

Basically grab her attention. Don't try to be too sarcastic or keep boring them with English teacher stories (they are a dime a dozen in EE). Then you can transition to kino-hand holding, hugs, touches, and end the night with a kiss. For a beginner like yourself it is not realistic to immediately expect a ONS especially when you've barely talked to these girls.
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(12-03-2016 04:44 PM)TripleG Wrote:  @destiny, I like your trip reports but your expectations are unrealistic and I chukkle every time I read them:

"Two of the chicks though mentioned meeting for coffee though so I'm not sure how I'm going to transition the date from the coffee shop into my bedroom. I'm thinking coffee shop - venue change to bar for a quick drink - then suggest this place like 3 minutes from my apartment for food which I know will be closed at that time and then makeup an excuse saying I need to go to the washroom and that my apartment is just 2 minutes from here and that we can go eat somewhere else afterwards. All these chicks mentioned no ONS on their profiles though so I don't know really know how to proceed to get them to my place."

Even master PUA's here cannot say that they will bang a girl on first meetup yet you expect that and get frustrated that it does not happen. You've had little luck in Krakow and even before meeting these girls you are already writing how you're gonna bring them to your place right after the coffee shop. None of your writings so far have indicated that you have a solid grasp on the concept of kino down...and you have not gotten past first base with any of the girls. So, my recommendation is to slow down and adjust your expectations! Unless you are a super high-energy, physical guy (like the Asian PUA you mentioned meeting at one of the Krakow nightclubs who carried 2 girls outside) you need to take it easy. There is nothing wrong with going on several dates for until you seal the deal. If you try too hard and show the girls your frustrations you will only put them off as all girls there have plenty of options.

Since you haven't even been past the first date with any of the 100's of approaches you made in Krakow you need to play the slow game. Show them a good time on the first date, going for coffee is OK BUT show them that you are different from the swarms of the mosquitoes that surround you (I am referring to all the other foreign guys that are attempting pickup there)...perhaps say a few good jokes, maybe talk about Canada, say a few words of French, take them on an active date (Segway tour through your Armenian friend would be good), go to a concert, anything to get these girls out of their shell and make them remember you. Your goal would be to hook a girl enough where she would be willing to invest a couple hours of travel and visit you in Warsaw next week.

Basically grab her attention. Don't try to be too sarcastic or keep boring them with English teacher stories (they are a dime a dozen in EE). Then you can transition to kino-hand holding, hugs, touches, and end the night with a kiss. For a beginner like yourself it is not realistic to immediately expect a ONS especially when you've barely talked to these girls.

Ya your right. Even guys who are better then me are having trouble pulling chicks home after meeting them. I guess my expectations were unrealistic but I guess I was trying to take it as far as possible since I've now run out of time. Its like a hail mary. I like your way of thinking. Show them a good time and then get them to come visit me in Warsaw next week. I guess I'll have to come up with some bullshit story as to why I'm going to be in Warsaw next week and why they can't wait until I get back to see me for a second date. I'm really disappointed with this trip and my lack of results. I guess it was wishful thinking to think I would have gotten at least 1 bang on this trip. I can't even get to first base, how could I have thought I would have hit a home run? Well at least this relieves a huge chunk of the pressure off of my shoulders. I won't be worrying about any of that extra stuff.
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Day 29 continued:

I made the mistake of hitting the mall late. By the time I got there, it was nearly empty and I didn't see a single target except one walking very fast as I was leaving the mall. So daygame was now out of the picture. I met up with the tall Italian and the Greek guy at Teatro Cubano. The Greek guy immediately opened a girl and then the Italian opened an average looking brunette. I felt awkward kind of standing there as he bantered with her and soon he brought me into the set and I started to talk to his girl briefly and then noticed her blonde friend right beside me. We made eye contact and then I opened her and started to ramble on. It was tough there due to the music. I tried to go on and on but I think speaking English is actually a DLV for some chicks here. She said to me that it was too loud and that I was talking too fast. Then the Italian comes over to me and is like "lets go dance." and I'm like ok. I wasn't sure what he expected me to do. I think he wanted me to ask both of the girls to go dance with us but he wanted me to do it. Then the Greek guy comes into the set and is like let's go dance but the blonde chick is like I'm still drinking my drink, in two minutes but he was being pushy. Then he went and was kissing the blonde's neck that I was talking to then we left the set and entered the dance floor. They started to approach girls on the dance floor by dancing near them but were getting rejected. I was feeling very uncomfortable on the dance floor. It was too packed. The Greek dude comes up to me on the dance floor and is like "I'm fucking that blonde." I didn't quite understand what he meant by that. I asked him "you've fucked her already?" and he just repeats what he said and then is like "its ok." I guess he meant that she was his and he was trying to mark his territory. I thought it was bros before hoes but apparently some people see it differently. Anyways, I'm not gonna fight over some random chick who I just met so I let him have her. Soon, we went back up to the bar area and him and the Italian went to the washroom while I waited by the bar. I felt awkward standing there while hordes of people pushed past me. I tried to open up some blonde leaning on the railings with her friend. They were doing some dance mores and I tried to copy them and commented on it, but she just gave me a smile and then returned back to her friend. I waited a while and didn't see the two guys so I went to go look for them but couldn't find them so I decided to go to the dance floor to see if they were there and saw them talking to some girls. The Italian snagged some chick and started to dance with her for a bit but then she ran off. Soon that blonde chick who I spoke to earlier was on the dance floor with her friends and the Greek guy approached her and started to dance with her. He tried to kiss her a few times but she avoided it until eventually allowing him to kiss her. She then signaled for him to go up to the top dance floor so we followed them. Up there, she kind of ignored him for a bit so he approached some other chick and then she got jealous and dragged him away and they started to make out. The Italian approached two girls but then one of them shooed him away and gave him that gesture to fuck off. I couldn't approach any girls and felt completely overwhelmed and uncomfortable. After several more minutes I couldn't take it anymore and had to get the fuck out of that club. I felt like shit for abandoning the club but I didn't know what to do inside. I just felt fucking awful as I slowly made my way back home in shame. I thought I would feel a lot better after this trip, but on the contrary I'm finding it to be quite the opposite. I feel like I'm way out of element here and I haven't accomplished a single goal that I set out to do on this trip.

Why is this some difficult for me? I ask myself. The longer I stay in this city, the more depressed I'm getting. I just need to get the fuck out of this city. I booked my accommodations for Warsaw today. My apartment is near the street nowy świat and I already found a starbucks located not too far from my apartment. Also I can't wait to try out nightgame at that wine bar TripleG sugegsted. I should feel more in my element gaming there hopefully.
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Day 30:

Have a confirmed date for tonight but she looks like Quasimodo's cousin urgg... Jesus what have I gotten myself into.
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So my second date also flaked on me...
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We can actually rename this city Flaków.
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"I booked my accommodations for Warsaw today. My apartment is near the street nowy świat and I already found a starbucks located not too far from my apartment. Also I can't wait to try out nightgame at that wine bar TripleG sugegsted. I should feel more in my element gaming there hopefully."


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(12-04-2016 04:29 PM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  We can actually rename this city Flaków.

How much you wanna bet my date tomorrow is also gonna flake? Dodgy
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I should have just left 1-2 days ago instead of sticking here until the end because of being tempted by these dates. I met up with the Polish British guy today since he returned for a short stint. We met up at Gospodo koko's. The place was almost completely overrun with foreigners. Actually if I recall the last 2 weeks or so, I've been seeing more and more foreigners there and less Poles. We checked out a few places, all mostly dead and then we hit up Teatro Cubano. The dance floor was completely full of foreign dudes. That's it, Krakow is done!

I don't think I'm gonna apply to work here now after witnessing how bad things are first hand, especially with the shitty salary. I asked the Polish Brit how it was previously since he said he comes somewhat frequently here. He said he's noticed a shit tonne of foreigners especially after that world youth day event. I'm glad I'm getting the fuck outta here soon. My tinder match numbers in Warsaw have actually surpassed my tinder matches here in Krakow despite only switching locations like 2-3 days ago. Also the quality is way better too.
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Three-four years ago it was like being in heaven in Krakow, you entered in the clubs with ratio of 60-70% girls and being constantly eye-fucked. Tons of students and crazy parties. Probably the best time of my life.
I remember stepping the first time in a klub and making out only after two minutes of clock. Despite getting laid was not properly easy, you had very nice attitude and interactions. Was even difficult to manage the schedule of the dates, and flakes were below 20% - that means that actually over 80% of girls replied to your first message.
Noticed difficulty increasing widely in spring 2015, but still had good time for a while - though I was observing the change around me and the first friends of mine were leaving the city due to the increase of foreigners and difficulty. I tried to be positive, but I consider the dramatic situation to become real in September this year. I was expecting tons of students to come back for the uni, but instead I found constantly only foreigners, and even in December Flakes are skyrocketing to 90% of the contacts, even running a very solid game. Night/Day/etc. game is the same story.
Nowadays I wouldn't suggest to anyone to come to Krakow for partying or hunting...it is finished here, even if you are a good player.
Needed to share my view and almost crying thinking about what this city has become Sad
Anyway hopefully you will enjoy your time in Warsaw!
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Day 31:

Today was my last day here so I really wasn't in a gaming mood. Just needed to wrap up a few things and then take off. I hitted up koko's for my usual lunch and then come across that cute waitress again. I flirted with her and got her to reveal more stuff about her. Its a damn shame its my last day here. I know if she's single I could get her after a few more encounters. What a waste. After that, I later met up with a female friend of mines. It was a last meeting sort of thing and we only had an hour before my date. I was actually hoping my date would flake on me because I wanted to spend it with my friend instead who brought me some parting gifts. I texted my date that I would be 15 minutes late about an hour before our date, first as a way to check to see if she was going to flake and also to extend my time with my friend. I didn't hear back from my date so I figured she was not going to show up but then about 5 minutes before our scheduled date time I got a message from my date. She sounded pissed off that I was making her wait 15 minutes out in the cold. I was kind of surprised she even showed me. I quickly made my way over to her. I was not expecting much and was kind of scared to even see her since she looked pretty bad in her photos. When I got her I saw a tall ass chick covered up in winter clothes. She lied about her height and was actually taller then me. It felt weird going out with a chick taller then me. It's my first date with a taller chick. She sounded pissed that I was late and I made up some bs excuse but she was still pissed. Nonetheless I managed to calm her down at the starbucks. I paid for our tea and at first wasn't impressed at all with how she looked but then she took off her glasses which seemed to make her face a little better and then she took off her coat and I was like wow. She was wearing a low cut black tank top with a lot of cleavage and she had massive titts. She was a bit curvy and had a big ass but wasn't too overweight or anything. At first the date was kind of boring and she just kept on yapping about herself and didn't really ask me any questions about me. All of the attention was on her and I was quickly getting bored and tired. I thought the date would be kind of finished in about an hour at most but then I said fuck it, I'm gonna try something different and switched girls and started to look for excuses to start teasing her which made the date more interesting and entertaining for the both of us. I initially wanted her to sit on the couches but she grabbed a chair while I sat on the couches which made it difficult to kino her. Seeing as it was kind of pointless to try physical escalation there, I decided a venue change to a bar right across the street. She commented that she was surprised that I was leading her and knew my way around. She mentioned on her previous dates, she always had to lead the men. She also told me about a previous date where she went out with some polish dude who worked in IT and had zero social skills and only answered yes or no on the date. He later texted her saying it was the best date he ever went on while she said it was her worst lol. At the bar, she insisted on paying for both of our drinks since I paid for the tea at starbucks. This is a recurring theme I've noticed her in Poland, chicks actually offer to pay for their share of the drinks too unlike those girls in Toronto who pretend and feight forgetting their purses at home or what not.

Earlier when we walked into the place and I told her where to sit, she had seated beside the inside bench so I figured she would be sitting there again when we got back to the seats but she said she needed to go to washroom when we were walking back. When she came back I got up to let her sit there and she's like no, its ok, I'll just sit here and then sits on the other side of the seats across fro me. She's like its cold over there and then takes her scarf and covers herself up. I'm thinking I fucked up with the comfort and she's not comfortable enough near me yet. This made kino a nightmare however, since she was really tall, I had to reach down and slowly inch closer and closer with my feet under the table until I could feel our feet touching. Since teasing seemed to be working, I decided to continue her and also kicks things up a notch. I pretty much started caring at that point and when she said something about dancing, I used that as an excuse to steer the conversation into a sexual direction. I started to say shit like how I'm gonna get her to come to my place and do a private dance for me while I turned off the lights. I asked her if she had any props at home like a whip or scarf. I kept on increasing the sexual tension and it turned her on massively. She had this sly smirk on her face as I continued to tease her about it. I said she's gonna come over and she's like maybe. I had a really difficult time keeping my eyes above her neckline. The only thing I wanted to do was bury my head into her massive titts and all that dirty talk was giving me a major hardon in my pants. I was worried if I got up people would notice it. But it didn't matter, she seemed to like the talk. She told me she was a good girl and stuff and I said she was a good girl with a wild side and she was like maybe. I kind of fucked it up by taking the sexual tension too high without a release. At one point, I went to grab a glass of water because the alcohol was starting to take its effect on me (I only drank like half a cup) and when I got back, it was kind of awkward because of our talk. We kind of looked at each other with this eye contact that we wanted to fuck each other and I made her look away first. I kind of said that it was kind of awkward now because of our talk to relieve the tension. I started to stretch abit and I was like I need a massage. I fucked up here as well because she was like "you need a massage?". I should have either went right over to her side and told her to give me one or tell her to come over to my side and give me a massage. I also at this point started to touch her upper arm while our feet remained in contact. I used an excuse for her to show me how to make a fist because she asked me about boxing so that I could touch her hand but she kind of refused at first but I kept on ordering her to do it and she relented and did it which I used to start feeling up her hand. When I noticed things started to die down, I knew it was time to leave and either end the date or try to get her home. Since it's my last day here I figured, go big or go home so when we got outside, I said let's go and she asked me where. At first I said we are going to go dance because I mentioned that to her and I figured I could escalate towards a kiss but then she refused so I said let's go to my place to warmup because its freezing which got her to suddenly tensed up her body and got her to say no. She was like not on the first time. I kind of grabbed her forearm and tucked at it gently when I was trying to get her to go to Teatro Cubano. I think I fucked up here as well and should have been more aggressive when I was trying to lead her. I should have as soon as we went outside of the bar, grabbed her hand and then started to lead her towards my apartment and if she asked me where we were going, I should have just said somewhere warm. All well, attempted pull failed.


She told me she originally only intended for our meeting to be one hour long but it ended up being around 3.5 hours long. She asked me if I wanted to walk her home so I said sure, a gentlemen always walks a lady home and then started to walk her home. I then figured maybe I can weasel my way inside of her apartment so I asked her about her living situation but she told me her sister is currently staying at her apartment and should be there right now. She asked me if I wanted to meet her sister but I said nah, maybe another time. She also started to touch me and rubbed my back when I said I was cold as we were walking to her place. When we got to her front door, she just gave me her cheek. I figured I should have at least gotten a kiss on the lips after all of that talk but I didn't find her face attractive enough to want to do it so I just gave her a kiss on the cheek and left.

Although the date started off on a rough start, I think I recovered from it. If I had more time, I'm pretty sure I could seal the deal with this chick by either the second or third date. Why does this always happen? I run out of time when I finally start seeing some progress? I think what helped was when I stopped giving a shit about offending her and just self amused myself and also looked for excuses to sexualize the conversation by misinterpreting what she was saying. Ah well, at least I got a bit of experience out of it especially creating that sexual tension and attempt to pull her to my place.

I also managed to snag a chick's number in warsaw through tinder. She's younger and much better looking but she wanted to meet today which I couldn't do to this date. She said she's leaving on thursday morning and won't be back until two weeks later so I tried to suggest we meet either tomorrow or wednesday and she proposed wednesday for a quick drink but wasn't 100% sure yet but will let me know by tomorrow.

Guess that's it for Krakow. I don't think I'm gonna come back here until I level up my game several levels or the hordes of foreigners leave this city. Now it's time for Warsaw!
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damn... sure just wait for when I leave and then you do this to me. What a fucking tease!

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That's still a great sign of progress whether you actually got to close that or not.

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Good stuff man. Is this the chick from day31?

You can always make her go to Warsaw.
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