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DETAILS UPDATE VIA THE EXPRESS:
Quote:REVEALED: George Soros hands Gina Miller campaign £400,000 in desperate bid to STOP Brexit
BILLIONAIRE investor George Soros has handed £400,000 to a campaign group founded by Gina Miller which is trying to overturn Brexit with a nationwide advertising campaign and Momentum style rallies, it has been reported.

"Best for Britain was founded by Gina Miller to fund election campaigns for anti-Brexit MPs, but she stepped down as director of the group after the 2017 general election."
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/...ews-latest[/size]

(02-07-2018 08:44 PM)Orson Wrote:  BREAKING in UK Press or the Daily Telegraph at least, on the front page:

George Soros, the man who 'broke the Bank of England', backing secret plot to thwart Brexit

Quote:George Soros, the billionaire known as the man who “broke the Bank of England”, is backing a campaign to overturn Brexit, the Telegraph can disclose.

The investor is one of three senior figures linked to the Remain-supporting campaign group Best for Britain who plan to launch a nationwide advertising campaign this month, which they hope will lead to a second referendum to keep Britain in the EU.

The campaign is trying to recruit major Tory donors in an attempt to undermine Theresa May.

It also plans to target MPs and convince them to vote against the final Brexit deal to trigger another referendum or general election, according to a strategy document leaked from a meeting of the group.

The document says the campaign, which will begin by the end of this month, must “wake the country up and assert that Brexit is not a done deal. That it’s not too late to stop Brexit”.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018...ot-thwart/

Like, we didn't expect this to be true?????

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^^^^ That's double-speak for: "We know that the noose is tightening on our criminal operations, and are moving the money and personnel out of the country as fast as possible before we're caught."

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(04-19-2018 03:21 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  ^^^^ That's double-speak for: "We know that the noose is tightening on our criminal operations, and are moving the money and personnel out of the country as fast as possible before we're caught."

What is ironic is that he's Hungarian-American. I think he still has a residence somewhere in Hungary.
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Soros must have pissed off Netanyahu.

Be mindful of the bias--this is Reuters, after all.

Israel backs Hungary, says financier Soros is a threat

Quote:Israel’s foreign ministry has issued a statement denouncing U.S. billionaire George Soros, a move that appeared designed to align Israel more closely with Hungary ahead of a visit to Budapest next week by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

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The strong ties between Netanyahu and Orban have raised eyebrows in the European Union, where Orban is regarded as an illiberal maverick. His party has curtailed press freedom and stymied EU efforts to tackle the migrant crisis.

Hungary has held discussions with Israel about purchasing security fences to keep migrants out, while Israel has sought better ties with countries that it hopes will take its side in any EU discussions where Israel is criticized.

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Soros has pissed off Israel in recent times financing multiple NGOs who advocated for more African mass migration and also trying to oppose the deportation of Africans from Israel.

So yeah - Soros is now watched closely - at least he is systematic - open borders for Israel too....
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(05-12-2018 02:13 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Soros has pissed off Israel in recent times financing multiple NGOs who advocated for more African mass migration and also trying to oppose the deportation of Africans from Israel.

So yeah - Soros is now watched closely - at least he is systematic - open borders for Israel too....

He may just have tested his luck one time to many. You don't fuck with the Jews and most importantly with Israel. Because unlike us losers those cats have the political pull to mobilize the U.S. congress, and if that happens he's done. All it would take are of few weeks of political lobbying and he suddenly may find himself having a big chunk of his assets frozen, followed by arrest warrants.

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(05-12-2018 02:13 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Soros has pissed off Israel in recent times financing multiple NGOs who advocated for more African mass migration and also trying to oppose the deportation of Africans from Israel.

So yeah - Soros is now watched closely - at least he is systematic - open borders for Israel too....

He may just have tested his luck one time to many. You don't fuck with the Jews and most importantly with Israel. Because unlike us losers those cats have the political pull to mobilize the U.S. congress, and if that happens he's done. All it would take are of few weeks of political lobbying and he suddenly may find himself having a big chunk of his assets frozen, followed by arrest warrants.

Maybe we can convince /pol to get George Soros to "accelerate" his open borders for Israel campaign??
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I’m guessing Soros has his assets in some sort of off shore or Swiss account that the USA govt won’t be able to freeze, or whatever the other terrorists use to keep their money.

He could end up in jail if he keeps trying to open Israeli borders.

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A Philosopher's 10 Years With George Soros VERSUS Donald Trump

Understanding and clarity about Soros - a recurrent object of spite, derision and hate here - has proved elusive. But a CEU philosopher on Karl Popper, Soros' favorite philosopher, nearly ten year's of meetings with the political activist-billionaire cuts the mustard. Here's my summary of a half dozen lengthy paragraphs newly published in The American Spectator:

Hubris, circular “reasoning,” and groupthink explains Soros descent into irrationality and political failure: “Soros, sensing that I may have lost the [Leftist] faith, asked me if I still believed in the progressive cause. I replied that I have a very open mind. The truth is that I no longer saw anything very progressive about socialism, if I ever did, especially if it plays on the manipulative function of language to spin the truth.” Thus, the Left is classic victim of self-delusion and hubris, turned into groupthink mania.

Spin in the Open Society, Or the Old Rope a Dope: Why President Trump is flummoxing George Soros & Co.
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May 25, 2018, 12:05 am

Quote:. A few years back, in 2009, I told George Soros that he shouldn’t believe his own spin. “Au contraire,” he replied with that twinkle in his eye. “It’s the secret of my success.” It was lunchtime banter. We hadn’t seen each other in years. And he had invited me to Southampton to spend some “quality time” together — which included talk about his pet theory of reflexivity, about what he called “the manipulative function of language,” and about our mutual friend and mentor, the philosopher Sir Karl Popper. After that, we met more often — with Soros inviting me to visit him every summer in Southampton, to places like Budapest, Paris, New York City, and Washington, and to functions like his wedding and inauguration as a professor at the Central European University — until I told him that Donald Trump would easily take votes from Hillary Clinton and that Black Lives Matter might not be as benign a force for social good as he and his progressive friends seemed to think. Soros, sensing that I may have lost the faith, asked me if I still believed in the progressive cause. I replied that I have a very open mind.

The truth is that I no longer saw anything very progressive about socialism, if I ever did, especially if it plays on the manipulative function of language to spin the truth. Popper himself had a soft spot for it, and for Marx, and said that he would still consider himself a socialist were it not for the power problem. But there still was the power problem. And his motto was “I may be wrong and you may be right, and with an effort we may get closer to the truth.” And I don’t see how socialism or progressivism — or the Open Society Institute, for that matter — promotes his idea of open society, which is all about searching for truth and correcting one’s own errors, and not about spinning it. Soros thought that his theory of reflexivity — which is about how what we say about an event may affect that event — and his ideas about how what we say can manipulate what we think and do had “gone beyond” Popper. Popper, however, knew all too well that what we say may affect what we do, and he also knew that spin is all about lies and not about truth.

There is, however, still the question whether you should believe your own spin. Most progressives have a very high opinion of themselves and a very low opinion of people who disagree with them. They regard themselves as better educated and hence intellectually and morally superior to conservatives, and especially to Donald Trump, who has replaced the Koch brothers as the personification of evil in their eyes, and whom they like to portray as not only morally bankrupt but as a virtual idiot unfit for the presidency. This too is spin, and something you shouldn’t believe if you want to get closer to the truth. But education in the open society has now devolved from training and encouragement in critical thinking to inculcating, embracing, and pronouncing the “right” opinions. And whether or not someone is well educated is no longer determined by the quality of their arguments, but by the “appropriateness” of their beliefs.

This is the very opposite of what Popper thought education in an open society should be. In this situation, there is no such thing as informed critical opinion. Everything is spin. Today, 70% or more of us do not trust what we read in the newspapers or hear on the radio and television. And while this may be disconcerting to some, I think it might actually be a good thing if it means that we have generally recognized that what presents itself as “truth” is all too often spin that cannot, or should not, be taken seriously.

Last year, shortly after Trump’s inauguration, and while the “progressives” were just at the beginning of their collective nervous breakdown, there was a lot of talk about how he would be impeached, or removed from office some other way, within a year. The spin was that he had colluded with the Russians to “hack the election” and was too thin-skinned to take the rough and tumble of hardball politics. It was that his temperament would lead him to self-destruct in one way or another. Progressives not only believed this spin, they did everything they could to spread it, and to spin it further. Then Trump fired James Comey, the Director of the FBI. Progressives erupted in simultaneous outrage and glee. And, once again believing their own spin, spun it still further to be both proof of obstruction of justice and proof that Trump had indeed colluded with the Russians. For why else would he fire him except to keep him from probing too deeply into his collusion with the Russians? Never for a moment did they pause to consider the possibility that Trump fired Comey for an entirely different but all too obvious reason: not because Comey was getting too close to home, but because he was studiously ignoring his government’s leaks to the press — the only crimes we actually knew to have occurred and the crimes that Trump wanted Comey to investigate — and because he had already figured out that Comey himself was one of the principal leakers. And my own sense, offered with full appreciation of Soros’ passion for chess, is that Trump might be a few moves ahead of him on the board this time.

Jeff Sessions recused himself from the Russian investigation because he had acted as a Trump surrogate during the election campaign. And his Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein, appointed Robert Mueller, Comey’s bestest buddy and predecessor as Director of the FBI, as Special Counsel. Mueller, whom many thought should have recused himself because of his special relationship with Comey, then assembled a “dream team” of special investigators, all dyed in the wool Hillary Clinton supporters, who should have recused themselves too. But they didn’t. And then, believing their own spin, they all sat back to watch the thin-skinned idiot President twist in the wind and self-destruct. Except he didn’t.

A year later, it is the Special Counsel, his dream team of special investigators, the FBI, Hillary Clinton, and the Obama Administration who are twisting in the wind. They have, in the process of finding no serious crimes in the Trump camp, revealed several serious crimes of their own. And unless I’m seriously mistaken, we have now gone through seven long rounds, the left has all put punched itself out in the heat, and Trump, a fan and friend of Muhammad Ali, is about to come off the ropes swinging.

Unless, of course, there’s a great blue wave, or a tsunami, or a surging river, or a waterfall, or a leaky faucet getting ready to break and sweep away the whole country away with it.

Go ahead, believe it — with all your heart — and repeat it to anyone who will listen, and as often as you can.

It is, after all, the secret of progressive success.

Mark Amadeus Notturno is an American philosopher specializing in epistemology, philosophy of science, philosophy of logic, and the philosophy of Karl Popper. His most recent book is Hayek and Popper: On Rationality, Economism, and Democracy.

SOURCE https://spectator.org/spin-in-the-open-s...pe-a-dope/

Mark Notturno's 99-page book "On Popper" - from the last decade - is itself the classic primer to philosopher Karl Popper. At Amazon.com, it earns 5-stars from all three short but substantive reader-reviews. Based on my experience reading this book with the "Denver Philosophy Meetup" several years ago, this endorsement could be multiplied.

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I'm a big fan of Popper, being related to Kant. I've written my senior thesis on Kant and Popper, I know Popper VERY well. Better than 99.9% of people, having read nearly all of his works.

That said, it always struck me at what a phony Soros is, practicing virtually nothing of Popper's works about critical self-examination and being willing to discard old ideas. I've always assumed Soros is just evil, no other way to explain him than a sadism to inflict suffering upon others.

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IS GEORGE SOROS THE MASTERMIND BEHIND THE INTERNET DE-PLATFORMING OF THE RIGHT?

Perhaps not - however he is the Funder in-Chief making the strategy a fearsomely powerful juggernaut.

Here is a compendium piece that draws on aggregate right-sympathizing media sources who have examined the Left's strategy document unveiled early in 2017. The headline quote:


Soros: Online Trump Supporters Will Be Entirely 'Silenced' By 2020 says it all. There are document caps at the source, below (and the document can be downloaded at the Daily Caller and elsewhere).

Quote:"A confidential, 49-page memo for defeating Trump by working with the major social-media platforms to eliminate "right wing propaganda and fake news" was presented in January 2017 by Media Matters founder David Brock at a retreat in Florida with about 100 donors, the Washington Free Beacon reported at the time.

The document obtained by The Free Beacon states that Media Matters and other Soros funded groups have "access to raw data from Facebook, Twitter, and other social media sites" so they can "systemically monitor and analyze this unfiltered data."

Wakingtimes.com reports: The full confidential memo, which reads like a subversive political manifesto, was written by American liberal political activist and author, David Brock, also the founder of Media Matters for America.

Entitled, Democracy Matters: Strategic Plan for Action, and composed in early 2017, it lays out the Democratic plan to oppose Trump's presidency at all costs by waging a daily media war, and we have been feeling the results of this strategy since Trump took office, and after nearly two years as president, the media landscape is in utter chaos, and the population is more divided than it has been since the American civil war.

Regarding Soros, he is a known financier of Media Matters, of which he has supported since 2010 in an overt effort to counter news organizations like Fox News. Soros has developed the reputation of being the world’s leading agit-prop bankroller.

"Media Matters is one of the few groups that attempts to hold Fox News accountable for the false and misleading information they so often broadcast. I am supporting Media Matters in an effort to more widely publicize the challenge Fox News poses to civil and informed discourse in our democracy." – George Soros


The effort to censor social media began in earnest with the election of Trump which saw the rollout of the term 'fake news,' and the Brock memo clearly outlines how this plan was intended to bring about the resulting censorship we see today.
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Quote:Soros Partners With Mastercard To Hand Out Money To Migrants

Billionaire investor George Soros has repeatedly denied rumors that he is helping to finance the migrant caravans making their way up from Honduras and Guatemala through Mexico with the ultimate aim of reaching the US.

But that's about to change, as the "Open Society" founder - who famously financed much of the opposition to Trump SCOTUS pick Brett Kavanaugh - is now partnering with Mastercard to hand out money (in the form of 'investment capital') to migrants, refugees and "others struggling within their communities worldwide," according to Reuters. Through their partnership, Soros is effectively providing open financial support for migrants and refugees seeking to enter the US and Europe.

[Image: 2018.11.03soros.JPG?itok=lydiKZ0w]

The partnership between Soros and Mastercard, which they are calling Humanity Ventures, is the result of a pledge that Soros made in September to spend $500 million to address "the challenges facing migrants and refugees."

In a statement, Soros and Mastercard declared that government aid programs haven't been enough to solve the issues facing refugees, suggesting that this is a problem that only the private sector can solve.

"Migrants are often forced into lives of despair in their host communities because they cannot gain access to financial, healthcare and government services," Soros said.

"Our potential investment in this social enterprise, coupled with Mastercard’s ability to create products that serve vulnerable communities, can show how private capital can play a constructive role in solving social problems," he added.

Right away, Soros plans to spend $50 million to provide "scaleable" health-care and education solutions. He intends to 'invest' the money in businesses founded by migrants.

"Humanity Ventures is intended to be profitable so as to stimulate involvement from other businesspeople," Soros said.

"We also hope to establish standards of practice to ensure that investments are not exploitative of the vulnerable communities we intend to serve."

Soros has said that he would prefer 'Humanity Ventures' to be profitable to attract "other businesspeople", it's unclear how, exactly, he plans to earn anything approaching a reasonable rate of return by handing out risk free loans to migrants and refugees.

This comes after Master Card back in 2016 admitted that it has handed out prepaid debit cards to migrants and refugees traveling through Europe, something the company did with the explicit blessing of the European Union and the UN High Commissioner for Refugees.

[Image: 2018.11.03mastercard.JPG?itok=4Q9pssHI]

Perhaps MSNBC and other liberals who blindly claim that Soros and his network of non-profits aren't providing financial assistance to migrants approaching the US should consider this before they continue with their denials.

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Soros and Mastercard Partnership for Globalism, International Migration
   

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Soros, why no make Honduras great again?

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After-all.
It would save all those poor hapless Honduran sods from taking such a long & arduous journey.
Along side criminals & MS-13 thugs no less...
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Can't Viktor Orban authorize Hungarian special forces to round this guy up and bring him back to Hungary to face charges for crimes against humanity and high treason?





He's an admitted Nazi collaborator, and did so with a smile.. His justification? "If I didn't do it someone else would have." No buddy, you found your way into the good graces of an actual Nazi and made a choice to work with them.

The biggest joke? The SJWs and MSM screaming Nazi! Nazi! at Trump and his supporters are themselves funded by a Nazi collaborator. Just can't make this stuff up.

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This guy can't go to hell soon enough. I hope after the Republicans secure both houses in Election Day, they can work to pass the same legislation Hungary and Russia passed to put his shenanigans on ice. Also, it would be wise for Trump to "squeeze" Netanyahu's arm on this issue since George Soros also has no qualms to see Israel burn as well if it meant making an extra shekel here and there.
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(11-04-2018 10:13 PM)PharaohRa Wrote:  This guy can't go to hell soon enough. I hope after the Republicans secure both houses in Election Day, they can work to pass the same legislation Hungary and Russia passed to put his shenanigans on ice. Also, it would be wise for Trump to "squeeze" Netanyahu's arm on this issue since George Soros also has no qualms to see Israel burn as well if it meant making an extra shekel here and there.


His son is no better. A prancing fairy that meets with all the world's top leaders.

I hope the fact that this kid didn't grow up in hard times has made him weak.

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(11-05-2018 01:38 AM)fiasco360 Wrote:  His son is no better. A prancing fairy that meets with all the world's top leaders.

I hope the fact that this kid didn't grow up in hard times has made him weak.

The kid will no doubt be given the keys to the castle.
Yet the kid has to attempt to establish himself in a far more aware & averse environment.

Soros had ~50 years to conduct his sinister acts without much of any opposition.
Now the Soros name is readily tarnished & globalism is on the back foot.
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(05-25-2018 12:54 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I'm a big fan of Popper, being related to Kant. I've written my senior thesis on Kant and Popper, I know Popper VERY well. Better than 99.9% of people, having read nearly all of his works.

Unfortunately Karl Popper has been proven wrong. To his credit he accepted this.

His definition of verisimilitude was proven to be wrong.

"Popper's formal definition of verisimilitude was challenged since 1974 by Pavel Tichý, John Henry Harris, and David Miller, who argued that Popper's definition has an unintended consequence: that no false theory can be closer to the truth than another. Popper himself stated: "I accepted the criticism of my definition within minutes of its presentation, wondering why I had not seen the mistake before." This result gave rise to a search for an account of verisimilitude that did not deem progress towards the truth an impossibility."

A rather gigantic flaw, and since verisimilitude was at the centre of the Popperian edifice his philisophy can be deemed fatally flawed.

Subsequent attempts to definie versimilitude have all stressed Popper's error and moved beyond him.

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So is Soros the Little Finger of the real world?

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Littlefinger was quite charming and didn't follow any specific cause other than power, so no. Soros is just a pig-headed globalist minion.

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11-10-2018 05:41 AM
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Plus, LittleFinger had to be very deft, clever & cunning in his endeavours.

Soros has had a free pass by his sinister peers for decades now, to conduct all manner of bullshit.
11-10-2018 11:52 PM
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RE: The George Soros thread
(05-25-2018 12:54 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I'm a big fan of Popper, being related to Kant. I've written my senior thesis on Kant and Popper, I know Popper VERY well. Better than 99.9% of people, having read nearly all of his works.

That said, it always struck me at what a phony Soros is, practicing virtually nothing of Popper's works about critical self-examination and being willing to discard old ideas. I've always assumed Soros is just evil, no other way to explain him than a sadism to inflict suffering upon others.

Soros has elite intelligence, watch his lectures.

He recognizes all the problems, but his solutions to them are puzzling.

He was shaped by the racial discrimination he faced as an immigrant in England, and bases his entire world view off of it. He was basically prevented from moving up in the ladder, even with his unbelievable talent, in what was indeed a very racist, and xenophobic time in England.

He hates being a Jew though, and does not support Israel, or Jewish tribalism--as far as I know he enjoyed taking all the riches from the Jews, as a kid, during ww2.

What he doesn't realize, and I attribute it to senility, is that we are at a different stage of society today, and that continuing to push in the same direction is causing us to go into decay.

He wants to help those that are like him, but is too senile to realize the damage he's causing.

But as far as Soros the person; he's an ultimate individualist; with no attachments to any country, race, ethnicity, religion, class, or group of any kind. Understanding this makes it much easier to understand his actions.
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What an evil person.



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