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(06-02-2017 10:21 AM)Mr.Carry Wrote:  In Hamburg and Koln we couldn't enter in any nightclub or pub. Everytime that we tried to enter the bouncer would stop us. Meanwhile we could see turkish-like people freely entering. By that time I thought it was somekind of racial discrimination since I'm latino.

Not uncommon to see Latin / Southern European looking guys being denied entrance in clubs in Germany, while the groups that are viewed as minorities get in more often than not. I do wonder why that happens.
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(08-05-2017 04:44 PM)shotgun Wrote:  
(06-02-2017 10:21 AM)Mr.Carry Wrote:  In Hamburg and Koln we couldn't enter in any nightclub or pub. Everytime that we tried to enter the bouncer would stop us. Meanwhile we could see turkish-like people freely entering. By that time I thought it was somekind of racial discrimination since I'm latino.

Not uncommon to see Latin / Southern European looking guys being denied entrance in clubs in Germany, while the groups that are viewed as minorities get in more often than not. I do wonder why that happens.

Because "Südlander" or Southern Europeans are known to cause the most trouble in the country. If you look anything like them they will try to push you out. I have even heard that "Südlander" term used in a derogatory manner. The bouncers are familiar with Turkish guys (even probably has some Turkish friends as well) and can discern between a ghetto Turk and a working professional.

This is similar to what they do with black guys in the US. You can generally tell whos a "hood nigga" and who isnt.

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(08-11-2017 10:00 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  
(08-05-2017 04:44 PM)shotgun Wrote:  
(06-02-2017 10:21 AM)Mr.Carry Wrote:  In Hamburg and Koln we couldn't enter in any nightclub or pub. Everytime that we tried to enter the bouncer would stop us. Meanwhile we could see turkish-like people freely entering. By that time I thought it was somekind of racial discrimination since I'm latino.

Not uncommon to see Latin / Southern European looking guys being denied entrance in clubs in Germany, while the groups that are viewed as minorities get in more often than not. I do wonder why that happens.

Because "Südlander" or Southern Europeans are known to cause the most trouble in the country. If you look anything like them they will try to push you out. I have even heard that "Südlander" term used in a derogatory manner. The bouncers are familiar with Turkish guys (even probably has some Turkish friends as well) and can discern between a ghetto Turk and a working professional.

This is similar to what they do with black guys in the US. You can generally tell whos a "hood nigga" and who isnt.

the arabs and turks create the most trouble in Germany.
Not Southern Europeans (french, spaniards, Italians)
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(08-11-2017 10:13 AM)manuel-86 Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 10:00 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  
(08-05-2017 04:44 PM)shotgun Wrote:  
(06-02-2017 10:21 AM)Mr.Carry Wrote:  In Hamburg and Koln we couldn't enter in any nightclub or pub. Everytime that we tried to enter the bouncer would stop us. Meanwhile we could see turkish-like people freely entering. By that time I thought it was somekind of racial discrimination since I'm latino.

Not uncommon to see Latin / Southern European looking guys being denied entrance in clubs in Germany, while the groups that are viewed as minorities get in more often than not. I do wonder why that happens.

Because "Südlander" or Southern Europeans are known to cause the most trouble in the country. If you look anything like them they will try to push you out. I have even heard that "Südlander" term used in a derogatory manner. The bouncers are familiar with Turkish guys (even probably has some Turkish friends as well) and can discern between a ghetto Turk and a working professional.

This is similar to what they do with black guys in the US. You can generally tell whos a "hood nigga" and who isnt.

the arabs and turks create the most trouble in Germany.
Not Southern Europeans (french, spaniards, Italians)

The French, Spaniards and Italians do not cause any trouble here but the guys with the "Südlander looks" do. Thus they use that term and group anyone who has those looks into that. But back to the topic. If you resemble those types of people in anyway you could have trouble getting into nightlife locations. Eastern European types (as previously stated) have trouble as well.

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(08-11-2017 10:13 AM)manuel-86 Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 10:00 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  
(08-05-2017 04:44 PM)shotgun Wrote:  
(06-02-2017 10:21 AM)Mr.Carry Wrote:  In Hamburg and Koln we couldn't enter in any nightclub or pub. Everytime that we tried to enter the bouncer would stop us. Meanwhile we could see turkish-like people freely entering. By that time I thought it was somekind of racial discrimination since I'm latino.

Not uncommon to see Latin / Southern European looking guys being denied entrance in clubs in Germany, while the groups that are viewed as minorities get in more often than not. I do wonder why that happens.

Because "Südlander" or Southern Europeans are known to cause the most trouble in the country. If you look anything like them they will try to push you out. I have even heard that "Südlander" term used in a derogatory manner. The bouncers are familiar with Turkish guys (even probably has some Turkish friends as well) and can discern between a ghetto Turk and a working professional.

This is similar to what they do with black guys in the US. You can generally tell whos a "hood nigga" and who isnt.

the arabs and turks create the most trouble in Germany.
Not Southern Europeans (french, spaniards, Italians)

Italians are famous for molesting girls, they just focus more in Baltic States and Central/Eastern europe... Go to Riga, Talliin, Krakow, Prague... there are usually 4 group of guys who are famous for ruining those cities and bothering girls without abbandon...

1) British/Irish guys: usually coming in large groups, very drunk, agressive, lack knowledge how to approach women hence they treat women as if they would pay them for sex.. imperialist mentality is still strong.
2) Italians: Loud, fake romantic, pushy, they usually operate in groups of smaller numbers (rarely more than 3 or 4) than brits.. but they know more about seduction plus have 10% of the alcohol in the body that brits have.. t
3) spanish: like italians but with half of the intensity and a bit more ackward to approach..
4) Turks: Usually exchange students, they can be quite pushy and agressive, and "NO" doesnt work with them.

Other nationalities arent dangerous... you might find the lone wolf approaching but they dont travel in packs with the sole purpose of scaring women...
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So seems that you have to pass through a lot of bs to have an opportunity to have the opportunity to try something.


Auf Wiedersehen, my friend.
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(08-15-2017 10:01 AM)Mr.Carry Wrote:  So seems that you have to pass through a lot of bs to have an opportunity to have the opportunity to try something.


Auf Wiedersehen, my friend.

Its a shame but it is what it is. As I stated in my datasheet there are workarounds to this. I don't have a problem anymore. I don't remember the last time I was denied entrance to a club.

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(08-15-2017 11:09 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 10:01 AM)Mr.Carry Wrote:  So seems that you have to pass through a lot of bs to have an opportunity to have the opportunity to try something.


Auf Wiedersehen, my friend.

Its a shame but it is what it is. As I stated in my datasheet there are workarounds to this. I don't have a problem anymore. I don't remember the last time I was denied entrance to a club.

Just a final question. What about jobs there ?

I'm chemical engineering with level B1 in German. I'm really inclined to try my luck there cuz the "job market" here in Brazil is absolute shit atm.

Do you have any knowledge about this ?
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(08-15-2017 12:51 PM)Mr.Carry Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 11:09 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 10:01 AM)Mr.Carry Wrote:  So seems that you have to pass through a lot of bs to have an opportunity to have the opportunity to try something.


Auf Wiedersehen, my friend.

Its a shame but it is what it is. As I stated in my datasheet there are workarounds to this. I don't have a problem anymore. I don't remember the last time I was denied entrance to a club.

Just a final question. What about jobs there ?

I'm chemical engineering with level B1 in German. I'm really inclined to try my luck there cuz the "job market" here in Brazil is absolute shit atm.

Do you have any knowledge about this ?

No problem. I am happy to help.

https://de.indeed.com/Jobs?q=chemical+engineer&l=

Indeed and Monster should have job listings. If those don't work come back to me and ill see where else I can look.

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(08-15-2017 12:51 PM)Mr.Carry Wrote:  Just a final question. What about jobs there ?

I'm chemical engineering with level B1 in German. I'm really inclined to try my luck there cuz the "job market" here in Brazil is absolute shit atm.

Do you have any knowledge about this ?
Try to get at least to B2/C1, that's the level where employers start to consider your German as useful.
You'll need some kind of official certificate from a university which states your job skills, a reference letter from a previous employer/from internships and a CV which covers everything without unreasonable gaps.
Than you should be fine applying. Bonus would be if you have some kind of personal connections to bypass HR gatekeepers and speed up the process.
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(08-15-2017 01:03 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 12:51 PM)Mr.Carry Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 11:09 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 10:01 AM)Mr.Carry Wrote:  So seems that you have to pass through a lot of bs to have an opportunity to have the opportunity to try something.


Auf Wiedersehen, my friend.

Its a shame but it is what it is. As I stated in my datasheet there are workarounds to this. I don't have a problem anymore. I don't remember the last time I was denied entrance to a club.

Just a final question. What about jobs there ?

I'm chemical engineering with level B1 in German. I'm really inclined to try my luck there cuz the "job market" here in Brazil is absolute shit atm.

Do you have any knowledge about this ?

No problem. I am happy to help.

https://de.indeed.com/Jobs?q=chemical+engineer&l=

Indeed and Monster should have job listings. If those don't work come back to me and ill see where else I can look.

Thanks. I'll have a look.

(08-15-2017 01:09 PM)FlyHigher123 Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 12:51 PM)Mr.Carry Wrote:  Just a final question. What about jobs there ?

I'm chemical engineering with level B1 in German. I'm really inclined to try my luck there cuz the "job market" here in Brazil is absolute shit atm.

Do you have any knowledge about this ?
Try to get at least to B2/C1, that's the level where employers start to consider your German as useful.
You'll need some kind of official certificate from a university which states your job skills, a reference letter from a previous employer/from internships and a CV which covers everything without unreasonable gaps.
Than you should be fine applying. Bonus would be if you have some kind of personal connections to bypass HR gatekeepers and speed up the process.

Yeah, I'm still studying but the courses here are very slow (since I can't do intensive course anymore). My plan is to do a intensive course in Germany any time soon.

About certificates I have a "GOETHE-ZERTIFIKAT B1" from the Goethe Institute (where I study).

I can get reference letters from my work and I have a few from previous internships.
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German women have a masculine vibe going on for me.

I lived in Europe 17 years and I never really met a single European person anywhere outside of Germany who would even consider German women attractive.

Other than Americans and some non Europeans with a caucasian fetish (Asians). It seems as if most Europeans just consider Germans cold, boring, and unattractive!
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What is a good resource for finding information on salary levels in Germany? I have googled and found some very general information on a few websites (glassworld, payscale, worldsalaries etc) but the information is scarce or very outdated. Grateful for pointers.
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(08-24-2017 06:54 AM)DarianFrey Wrote:  What is a good resource for finding information on salary levels in Germany? I have googled and found some very general information on a few websites (glassworld, payscale, worldsalaries etc) but the information is scarce or very outdated. Grateful for pointers.

Which industry are you in? Don't expect to make a lot of money like in the states, look into various regional newspapers and websites of the companies themselves.
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(08-24-2017 07:38 AM)Nowak Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 06:54 AM)DarianFrey Wrote:  What is a good resource for finding information on salary levels in Germany? I have googled and found some very general information on a few websites (glassworld, payscale, worldsalaries etc) but the information is scarce or very outdated. Grateful for pointers.

Which industry are you in? Don't expect to make a lot of money like in the states, look into various regional newspapers and websites of the companies themselves.

This website is good for looking into the corporate culture/benefits work related stuff

https://www.kununu.com
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I HATE Germany with a passion.

I've been there numerous times for extended stays; Frankfurt, Berlin, Munich etc..along with some smaller cities - Leipzig etc.

It's a shit hole, the Women are below average, and there are WAY too many foreigners.

For the price you pay in Germany, you would expect a lot more.

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(08-24-2017 07:41 AM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:  I HATE Germany with a passion.

I've been there numerous times for extended stays; Frankfurt, Berlin, Munich etc..along with some smaller cities - Leipzig etc.

It's a shit hole, the Women are below average, and there are WAY too many foreigners.

For the price you pay in Germany, you would expect a lot more.

American women are still objectively worse and Germany doesn't have Zimbabwe levels of infrastructure like the US does. Germans are also less plebian than most Anglos.
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(08-24-2017 07:40 AM)Nowak Wrote:  Which industry are you in? Don't expect to make a lot of money like in the states, look into various regional newspapers and websites of the companies themselves.

This website is good for looking into the corporate culture/benefits work related stuff

https://www.kununu.com
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Cheers man.

I'm in healthcare (physical therapy) and currently based in another European country. It's not high-income but I'd like to compare to my current country, also German taxes are lower than where I am.
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(08-05-2017 04:44 PM)shotgun Wrote:  
(06-02-2017 10:21 AM)Mr.Carry Wrote:  In Hamburg and Koln we couldn't enter in any nightclub or pub. Everytime that we tried to enter the bouncer would stop us. Meanwhile we could see turkish-like people freely entering. By that time I thought it was somekind of racial discrimination since I'm latino.

Not uncommon to see Latin / Southern European looking guys being denied entrance in clubs in Germany, while the groups that are viewed as minorities get in more often than not. I do wonder why that happens.

I've ssen them also get shitty with British on weeknights esp if they think its a big group slipping in in 2s and 3s. (Turkish door staff). Its a fucking incredible nerve and basically asking for people to kick off with them.

I mean the place has the worst case of SJW-ism going with it being Rapefugee Central these days. Yet Europeans (of many types) in clubs are treated like this.

Europe really is going to shit. (A British Jewish guy was CONVICTED recently for saying he didn't want to use a Muslim optician in a store!)
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I love to take a piss on ze Germans but they sure get high levels of pure spite here. Chill, fellas!

@Darian :
The salaries are high comparatively. The benefits such as Healthcare have degraded over the years but again, comparatively speaking they are solid.
Food and booze are quite cheap (beer is great, even though my personal favorites were Belgian trappists).
The trade offs, assuming you've gone past the absurdly high requirements for *legal* immigration are that a HUGE part of your income goes into taxes.
And Gods forbid you break the slightest regulation whether intentionally or not. Alles in Ordnung muß sein still applies to local people, and how!

I haven't been there in a while so I wouldn't know about the sociocultural sjw paranoia atm but I would advise to take what you read on the web with a pinch of salt.
Kirdiesel and Parzival are very good references, the former has lived there for a while and is American while the latter is an actual German and they can give you a more in the ground view of the situation.

Finally, if you are into nature. Germany has not only some of the most beautiful forests and rivers but they are also among the cleanest.

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(08-24-2017 07:41 AM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:  I HATE Germany with a passion.

I've been there numerous times for extended stays; Frankfurt, Berlin, Munich etc..along with some smaller cities - Leipzig etc.

It's a shit hole, the Women are below average, and there are WAY too many foreigners.

For the price you pay in Germany, you would expect a lot more.

I wouldn't say I hate Germany with a passion. But one can't deny Germany is a pretty boring bland place though.

Other than Americans who have not overcome the "OMG I AM IN EUROPE" shock, and military US personnel who rave about how amazing Germany is (Eventhough most get to be stationed in the middle of nowhere and never really get to know the real Germany). I must admit I never met that many people from Europe who like Germany.

Europeans of other nationalities tend to overlook Germany when talking about sexy nationalities, or fun places to visit!

Not sure Germany is seen as cool.

I don't even think German women are on great demand anywhere in Europe!
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(08-24-2017 02:57 PM)manuel-86 Wrote:  
(08-24-2017 07:41 AM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:  I HATE Germany with a passion.

I've been there numerous times for extended stays; Frankfurt, Berlin, Munich etc..along with some smaller cities - Leipzig etc.

It's a shit hole, the Women are below average, and there are WAY too many foreigners.

For the price you pay in Germany, you would expect a lot more.

I wouldn't say I hate Germany with a passion. But one can't deny Germany is a pretty boring bland place though.

Other than Americans who have not overcome the "OMG I AM IN EUROPE" shock, and military US personnel who rave about how amazing Germany is (Eventhough most get to be stationed in the middle of nowhere and never really get to know the real Germany). I must admit I never met that many people from Europe who like Germany.

Europeans of other nationalities tend to overlook Germany when talking about sexy nationalities, or fun places to visit!

Not sure Germany is seen as cool.

I don't even think German women are on great demand anywhere in Europe!

This statement is correct. The other guys are just mouthing off.

The BEST thing about this country is the Economy/Ability to make money. The girls come second. Fun comes third or even lower. Come to Germany to make money first and fuck girls second. As long as you keep that in your head youll be fine.

For girls I think you can get a better deal elsewhere.... ALTHOUGH there are some really hot girls here. I don't think the average girl here is hot but as I have said 5000x there is quality to be had IF YOU KNOW WHERE TO LOOK.

I'm not sure what you guys are seeing in Eastern Europe but you aren't going to walk down a random side street here and see a 8 or 9 standing around in high heels and short skirt during the day with a clean opportunity to open. You have to inherently know where to be and where they hang out.

I have NO trouble finding hot girls (although not exactly my type) and honestly I have pretty decent standards.

I don't game or visit many other German cities much (I prefer to be in the Netherlands when i have the chance for quick travel) so I can't talk about the amount of foreigners in other cities but Cologne does not have many compared to many other places in Western Europe I have been. Belgium and the Netherlands have WAY WAY more.

Its VERY German here and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

I think one of the best places to look for salary data in Germany is gehalt.de but unfortunately the data is in German and you'll have to translate it all.

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(08-24-2017 07:41 AM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:  I HATE Germany with a passion.

I've been there numerous times for extended stays; Frankfurt, Berlin, Munich etc..along with some smaller cities - Leipzig etc.

It's a shit hole, the Women are below average, and there are WAY too many foreigners.

For the price you pay in Germany, you would expect a lot more.

Yeah German women are terrible. Probably the worst in Europe after British and Belgian women.
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RE: 6 Years in Germany - From the perspective of a black guy
(08-24-2017 07:41 AM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:  I HATE Germany with a passion.

I've been there numerous times for extended stays; Frankfurt, Berlin, Munich etc..along with some smaller cities - Leipzig etc.

It's a shit hole, the Women are below average, and there are WAY too many foreigners.

For the price you pay in Germany, you would expect a lot more.

I always have to wonder about those kind of statements - so let's assume you have been there involuntarily (say extended business trips that required you to stay). Why wouldn't you look for another assignment or somehow else circumvent staying? For sure I'd try to avoid having to go to a place that I absolutely can't stand.

Shit hole because of...? There's a lot going wrong in Germany, yet the quality of life is high up compared to many other places (in my opinion anyway).

Lots of immigrants? Yes. If that's a major concern one would be better off to avoid most Western countries though.

manuel-86, our culture is fairly different from the rest of Europe and that's mostly rooted in our history. It's a bit of either you can accept it or you can't, there's not much room in between.

Womenwise there's hundreds of places that are better, hands down. Overall quality of life however is only beaten by few places in the West.
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