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Could it be classified as extortion?
12-16-2016 01:16 PM
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I really don't get their demands to "donate", it seems they have a hard on with this. It's like they need money for them SJW programs.

I'm not sure about extortion but certainly harassment.

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Asking for a donation and suggesting to fascilitate the sale is definitely very close to extortion. In any case the troll army of /pol/ and others is upon her, she has been removed from the website of her realtor, will be interesting to follow what happens.
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That's "Get the fuck out of my town" game, plain and simple.

Real estate can be cut throat sometimes, and this Tanya Gersh lady looks like she knows what she's doing.

Look at Spencers mommy not taking any responsibility for her son either. I guess that's where Richard gets it.

She caved at the first little sign of struggle. They could have fought that.

How's he gonna create a nation of proud white people if he let's people push his mom around like that?

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(12-16-2016 03:21 PM)Kona Wrote:  That's "Get the fuck out of my town" game, plain and simple.

Real estate can be cut throat sometimes, and this Tanya Gersh lady looks like she knows what she's doing.

Look at Spencers mommy not taking any responsibility for her son either. I guess that's where Richard gets it.

She caved at the first little sign of struggle. They could have fought that.

How's he gonna create a nation of proud white people if he let's people push his mom around like that?

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I don't think she sold, according to her post in medium.

However, I find it hilarious how there are predatory Talmuds even out in ultra-White state of Montana. If any state goes White Nationalist, I expect Montana or North Dakota.

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(12-21-2016 01:00 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

So has the guy that yells "Hail Trump!" Ever read The Art of the Deal??????

His mom has a nice building that a profit can be made off of. This Tanya lady takes advantage of what is available to her and tries to snatch it. That's real estate.

It just so happens that Tanya's little hook is the fact that the building owner's son is a rabid jackass. Use it to your advantage, that's business.

This is exactly the kind of thing Donald Trump has done his whole life. Spencer is just a whiner looking for some lugenpresse.

And when someone does "air quotes" its an excellent time to punch them directly in the nose.

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Quote:WASHINGTON ― White nationalist Richard Spencer, riding a post-Trump wave of media fame, is entertaining the idea of running for U.S. Congress. He is considering campaigning for Montana’s at-large congressional seat that would be vacated by Rep. Ryan Zinke ® if he is confirmed as secretary of interior.

To be clear: Spencer is only thinking about it. He thinks “about lots of things,” he told The Huffington Post on Thursday.

But he noted that “a lot of people were calling me and saying, ‘Oh, you should do it, just do it, this is the moment.’ I’m obviously flattered.”

“I’m taking it very seriously,” he added. “It’s an exciting prospect.”

Via HuffPo...

I am not sure what his situation is -- Whitefish is basically a vacation town, there is a ski hill (Big Mountain) and a lake. Loaded with wealthy Californians and oil money from Alberta. I would assume his wealthy parents took a vacation there, fell in love with it and his dad let his mom buy some property there to fulfill her dreams or whatever. Richard probably just spends some winter time up there for skiing or maybe fly fishes, I dunno. Looks like he lives mainly in DC and grew up in Texas.

Seems like a pretty dense move to me, I don't see Montanans voting for a state outsider.
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(12-21-2016 11:11 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(12-21-2016 01:00 PM)Roosh Wrote:  
His mom has a nice building that a profit can be made off of. This Tanya lady takes advantage of what is available to her and tries to snatch it. That's real estate.

It just so happens that Tanya's little hook is the fact that the building owner's son is a rabid jackass. Use it to your advantage, that's business.

There's no way you'd say this if your own mom was attacked as part of "business" incentive of a third party. You hate Richard Spencer, we get it, but trying to say attacks against mothers is fair game is a disturbing stretch, and I say this as a man whose family was attacked because it was incentive for the media to do so.

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(12-22-2016 11:23 AM)Roosh Wrote:  
(12-21-2016 11:11 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(12-21-2016 01:00 PM)Roosh Wrote:  
His mom has a nice building that a profit can be made off of. This Tanya lady takes advantage of what is available to her and tries to snatch it. That's real estate.

It just so happens that Tanya's little hook is the fact that the building owner's son is a rabid jackass. Use it to your advantage, that's business.

There's no way you'd say this if your own mom was attacked as part of "business" incentive of a third party. You hate Richard Spencer, we get it, but trying to say attacks against mothers is fair game is a disturbing stretch, and I say this as a man whose family was attacked because it was incentive for the media to do so.

If I was the figurehead of an organization who's principals many other people find extremely offensive, i would absolutely expect there to be negative fallout my family was forced to deal with.

And yes I hate Richard Spencer, strictly because of his dishonesty. I think spinning the situation over the property as a personal attack on his mother is the disturbing stretch. I say this as a man who rents commercial properties in a close knit rural community with high property value. The state of Virginia has Spencers corporate filings at this buildings address. For his mother to deny the building has anything to do with Richard was a bad move. Maybe Mrs. Spencer doesn't understand the business?

It seems to me that with this video here, and his moms various op-eds and blog posts, these people are trying to stir up their supporters and make this a lot more than it actually is. That's the spin Richard is after.

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Shit is getting real, neo-nazis plan march on Whitefish.

http://archive.is/0rP8Y

Quote: neo-Nazi website has stepped up a campaign against the Jewish community of Whitefish, Montana, now announcing an armed march by white supremacists planned for January.

“We are continuing our barrage against the criminal Jews of Whitefish,” wrote Andrew Anglin, a neo-Nazi who runs The Daily Stormer website, in the latest of a series of articles about the situation in Whitefish. “We are planning an armed protest in Whitefish … we can easily march through the center of the town carrying high-powered rifles.”

Tanya Gersh is MIA, won't even talk to jewish media, and now the jewish organisation Love Lives Here who conspired with her against Spencer has thrown her under the bus, claiming they have no connection, when the are in fact quoted on email being part of the extortion racket.
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What exactly did the jews do? Just tell his mom that she should sell her property and denounce her son? I'm not sure how that is illegal, nor is calling for a boycott on renting from the building illegal either. Spencer could just as easily ask for a boycott on businesses he doesn't like as well.

Am I missing something?
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(12-25-2016 02:25 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Shit is getting real, neo-nazis plan march on Whitefish.

http://archive.is/0rP8Y

Quote: neo-Nazi website has stepped up a campaign against the Jewish community of Whitefish, Montana, now announcing an armed march by white supremacists planned for January.

“We are continuing our barrage against the criminal Jews of Whitefish,” wrote Andrew Anglin, a neo-Nazi who runs The Daily Stormer website, in the latest of a series of articles about the situation in Whitefish. “We are planning an armed protest in Whitefish … we can easily march through the center of the town carrying high-powered rifles.”

Tanya Gersh is MIA, won't even talk to jewish media, and now the jewish organisation Love Lives Here who conspired with her against Spencer has thrown her under the bus, claiming they have no connection, when the are in fact quoted on email being part of the extortion racket.
This is an excellent idea! This will improve the situation by leaps and bounds! I hope they carry flags with swastikas to really calm the entire situation and bring less attention to Spencer's mom! Good ol Daily Stormer, always has the high IQ solution to whatever issue arises.....
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(12-25-2016 03:36 PM)Repo Wrote:  What exactly did the jews do? Just tell his mom that she should sell her property and denounce her son? I'm not sure how that is illegal, nor is calling for a boycott on renting from the building illegal either. Spencer could just as easily ask for a boycott on businesses he doesn't like as well.

Am I missing something?
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(12-25-2016 02:25 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Tanya Gersh is MIA, won't even talk to jewish media, and now the jewish organisation Love Lives Here who conspired with her against Spencer has thrown her under the bus, claiming they have no connection, when the are in fact quoted on email being part of the extortion racket.

Yeah I spit my beer all over when I read about this in The Daily Stormer.

Its important to believe everything you read in trusted news sites like theirs, instead of those lying bastards at the Associated Press.

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(12-25-2016 04:01 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(12-25-2016 02:25 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Tanya Gersh is MIA, won't even talk to jewish media, and now the jewish organisation Love Lives Here who conspired with her against Spencer has thrown her under the bus, claiming they have no connection, when the are in fact quoted on email being part of the extortion racket.

Yeah I spit my beer all over when I read about this in The Daily Stormer.

Its important to believe everything you read in trusted news sites like theirs, instead of those lying bastards at the Associated Press.

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(12-25-2016 03:36 PM)Repo Wrote:  What exactly did the jews do? Just tell his mom that she should sell her property and denounce her son? I'm not sure how that is illegal, nor is calling for a boycott on renting from the building illegal either. Spencer could just as easily ask for a boycott on businesses he doesn't like as well.

Am I missing something?

They threathened her with protests, picketing and boycot if she didn't sell to Tanya Gersh AND make a donation from the sale to the jewish group Love Lives Here.

That's extortion.
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They threathened her with protests, picketing and boycot if she didn't sell to Tanya Gersh AND make a donation from the sale to the jewish group Love Lives Here.

That's extortion.
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No that is protesting. I do not agree with targeting Spencer's mom but lets not get hyperbolic- Extortion, defined as Intimidation under Montana Law

45-5-203. Intimidation. (1) A person commits the offense of intimidation when, with the purpose to cause another to perform or to omit the performance of any act, the person communicates to another, under circumstances that reasonably tend to produce a fear that it will be carried out, a threat to perform without lawful authority any of the following acts:
(a) inflict physical harm on the person threatened or any other person;
(b) subject any person to physical confinement or restraint; or
© commit any felony.
(2) A person commits the offense of intimidation if the person knowingly communicates a threat or false report of a pending fire, explosion, or disaster that would endanger life or property.
(3) A person convicted of the offense of intimidation shall be imprisoned in the state prison for any term not to exceed 10 years or be fined an amount not to exceed $50,000, or both.
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(12-25-2016 04:38 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  They threathened her with protests, picketing and boycot if she didn't sell to Tanya Gersh AND make a donation from the sale to the jewish group Love Lives Here.

That's extortion.
No that is protesting. I do not agree with targeting Spencer's mom but lets not get hyperbolic- Extortion, defined as Intimidation under Montana Law

45-5-203. Intimidation. (1) A person commits the offense of intimidation when, with the purpose to cause another to perform or to omit the performance of any act, the person communicates to another, under circumstances that reasonably tend to produce a fear that it will be carried out, a threat to perform without lawful authority any of the following acts:
(a) inflict physical harm on the person threatened or any other person;
(b) subject any person to physical confinement or restraint; or
© commit any felony.
(2) A person commits the offense of intimidation if the person knowingly communicates a threat or false report of a pending fire, explosion, or disaster that would endanger life or property.
(3) A person convicted of the offense of intimidation shall be imprisoned in the state prison for any term not to exceed 10 years or be fined an amount not to exceed $50,000, or both.
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Did you even read your quote?

"Sell or else we will bankrupt you through harassment" is clearly intimidation. That isn't even enough, they ask her to make a 'donation' to an unrelated firm. This is straight up mafia methods.
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Atlanta Man, if a man is convicted as a murderer, is it ok to go picket and harass the mother of that man and demand she sells her business through you or is it harassment and extortion?
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(12-25-2016 04:21 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  You said what Kona?

So you are agreeing with me?

I'm having real trouble finding the threats and extortion in those emails. It looks like a Realtor doing her job.

I've read both far ends of this spectrum. The daily stormer's reaction to a rabbi telling people to send nice notes to people involved is to bus in skinheads and give them assault weapons.

It looks like this is another case of the neo Nazis making a big deal where there isn't one. The skinheads are masters of manipulating stupid people into joining their cause. This is just a rally cry for that.

And by the way, maybe Tanya isn't in hiding, or MIA, because 1. Its the weekend 2. Its Christmas. I read the AP, and no one threw her under any bus, they just said she wasn't part of their organization.

Its the daily stormer and Richard spencers gang making it sound that way.

Ive done all my research and am starting to believe Cernovich that this Spencer guy is actually some kind of controlled opposition plant.

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(12-25-2016 05:23 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Atlanta Man, if a man is convicted as a murderer, is it ok to go picket and harass the mother of that man and demand she sells her business through you or is it harassment and extortion?

Please allow me to answer that.

If the man is the leader of a group that is pro murder and that groups corporate filings list its headquarters as that building, absolutely.

Forget she is his mother. She is responsible for what goes on on that property.

If the town doesn't want whatever it is going on in that location, they have the right to take action.

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It sounds to me like they're essentially running a scheme to drop the value of a property so they can buy it cheap. If you've got protestors driving away all the tenants then the building is worthless for the owner, just the same as if they hired gangsters to go in and burglarize the building every month until everyone moved out. The only difference with this is that they're hiding behind popular public anti-anti-semitism to pull it off legally.
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The quote you listed defines exactly what qualifies as intimidation, and protesting and boycotting do not meet this definition.
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