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(12-20-2016 05:05 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  send them all back

yes. Who? First those who arrived in the last 2-3 years. After that, ban Islam and send everybody who won't convert also.

Islam has no place on Europe or any civilized country. They can live like the middle ages in their country, I do not care.

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This is how the Christmas market looks now at Old Town Square, Prague.
Thank you, Mrs. Merkel!!!!

   
   

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(12-20-2016 05:05 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  This is horrible , i think they need to do some more strict action. Besides dark humor and sarcasm, any ideas?

One thing I've noticed is a lot of these terror perps have priors where almost nothing was done.
AT a minimum that should end.

If you were prime minister of germany, what kind of emergency action would you do? What CAN you do?

(in detail, not " send them all back" which begs the issue ' who exactly?' everyone who says they're a Muslim? If that's your position say so )

Btw jingoistic crap like "kill liberals "just divides the civilized world, I'm liberal which means I'm against the inherent
Violation of innocents by driving a truck over them.

How many police can they add how fast?

Send all "refugees" back once Trump and Putin secure Syria. Sure, only a few are actually from Syria, but it would be more politically palatable to the public to wait for this. At this stage, the definition of "refugee" is ANYONE who arrived in Europe either illegally or as a legitimate asylum seeker.

"The war's over now boys. Good news! You get to go back home to see your family in Syria! You must be so excited to contribute to the rebuilding of your country right? I mean it's not like you have a lot to do here .... it must be such a great feeling that you can finally go back to assist your brothers and sisters in your homeland! Best wishes chaps! Oh.... you say you don't want to leave just yet? You're starting to get comfortable and you like the easy life here? Sorry, we actually have a housing shortage here so .... yeah, you gotta go. OUT, OUT, OUT!!"
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I'm surprised nobody did the usual "those pesky Buddhists" again.

And in case you're wondering, yes, it's relevant. The excuses for radical Islam (Trump's words) could also excuse violence from other groups (including Middle Eastern Christians, for example, so it isn't a race issue). However, only one group consistently makes the headlines.
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(12-20-2016 05:19 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  
(12-20-2016 05:05 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  send them all back

yes. Who? First those who arrived in the last 2-3 years. After that, ban Islam and send everybody who won't convert also.

This has the advantage of :
1) Simplicity. If you don't have papers proving you got into EU before xx/xx/xx plane ride to commandeered airstrip near Raqqa.
2) It can be softened by saying it's "temporary". Then serious vetting can be done before they're allowed back in.


(12-20-2016 05:19 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  Islam has no place on Europe or any civilized country. They can live like the middle ages in their country, I do not care.

Unfortunately I'm guessing you need a lot more dead Germans, Italians and French before you get to 70-80% agreement in the EU on that.

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(12-20-2016 05:19 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  
(12-20-2016 05:05 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  send them all back

yes. Who? First those who arrived in the last 2-3 years. After that, ban Islam and send everybody who won't convert also.

Islam has no place on Europe or any civilized country. They can live like the middle ages in their country, I do not care.

Yup.

1. Send all Muslims back who don't pass the Roosh Islamist Airport test - those who pass would not care if all mosques were closed.
2. Accept only the ones with IQs of 110 or higher.
3. Initiate full critique of Islam showing full violent Quran, violent history, violent Hadiths. Even many Muslims would be swayed to move away from it.
4. Slowly silently limit mosques, close Islamic schools, shut down protesters. Every criminal Muslim instantly deported.
5. Re-erect strict borders, move out navy to the Mediterranean, send them all back to their shores. Even if you "rescue" them, then they end in a concentration camp to be tagged, finger-printed and due to criminal entry to the EU banned for life for future travel, visa application or even vacation. The gulf states have similar joint procedures and why should Europe not do it the same way.
6. No mercy towards Jihadis. Even planning an attack gets you 30 years, doing one - 100 years in solitary.

Nothing however will be done about it.

The globalists are not PC like the SJWs. They know what they are doing.
They will blast propaganda and pump more of them into the West.
Then in the end they will either:

1) Have war with Islam and then a New World One World Government.
2) Chip everyone everywhere and then have a One World Government.

The end result is the same. They win. We lose. Muslims are the weapons for that goal. From conquerors to dumb tools - that is how they have progressed.
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If they say they're Muslim, send them back.
If they have ever non-ironically said Allahu Ackbar, send them back.
If they have ever knelt and "faced Mecca" to pray, send them back.

I could add to that list. Zel's got a good list as well.

I'm against long term storage of Islamic criminals though. Keep them around for 5 years, then execute them. Due process.
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(12-19-2016 05:24 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  That is a pretty new SCANIA truck so it makes sense the driver was hijacked.

That's right. Only candy asses drive those things.

You know what a pretty new Scania and a test tube baby have in common? Peterbilts kick their ass every time.

Try jihading this guys truck:





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(12-20-2016 05:05 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  This is horrible , i think they need to do some more strict action. Besides dark humor and sarcasm, any ideas?

One thing I've noticed is a lot of these terror perps have priors where almost nothing was done.
AT a minimum that should end.

If you were prime minister of germany, what kind of emergency action would you do? What CAN you do?
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How many police can they add how fast?

Hah! Take a look at the number of muslims in prison in France, and that's the worst of the worst. They're almost as bad as Germany because once they hit maximum saturation in lockup they literally have to turn lose the best of the worst and keep the worst of the worst locked up, unless they want to start throwing up prison camps, and what's the over under on that ever happening?

So what happens when you apply traditional law and order for every rapefugee as well as the German born muslims and Turkish immigrants the influx has emboldened?

Maximum saturation of lockup capacity. Then what? Build more prisons? How many? What's political viability of locking up 100,000 "refugees"? 200,000?

And what do you think happens in prisons packed to capacity with dangerous muslims. A bit of harmless radicalisation here and there? What are you going to do with these psychopaths when they've served their time, or you have to clear their bunks for someone more dangerous?

Asking for a "reasonable solution" at this stage is like a man who's jumped out of a plane without a parachute asking for a "reasonable solution".

There is none. There will be blood. It's only a question of who's, and how much.
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The Berlin police say they have caught the wrong man and the suspect is still at large, according a story just out in Die Welt. The mangled English in the quote below is from Google translate.

Berlin police - "We have the wrong man"

Quote:"We have the wrong man": In the Berlin police one assumes that the captured Pakistani is not the death driver. The real culprit is still armed at large.

I n the Berlin police, it is assumed that it is not to the death driver with the arrested Pakistanis. The "world" experienced this from high-ranking security cir- cles.

The allegations of the alleged perpetrator had been examined and considered to be correct. "We have the wrong man," says the Berlin police. "And thus a new location. For the real culprit is still armed at large and can cause new damage. "The capital's preparedness police and the special forces were informed.

Earlier Interior Minister Thomas de Maizière (CDU) had informed that the arrested suspect denies a complicity . According to him, he comes from Pakistan. He was submitted to Germany on 31 December 2015 and registered, said the minister. His asylum procedure has not yet been completed.
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Ban Islam, I didn't think Zel's idea was feasible but I realize eventually that will be the outcome.
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Does this mean the captured person is an accomplice of the real terrorist who is still on the run, or that the captured person is entirely innocent?

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Germany have created a needle in a haystack situation but despite the shocking situation they've caused, they need to do everything possible to track, trace and deport every migrant without records [And potentially many who have], starting with the most recent arrivals [I.E Past 3 years]. Democratic rights of otherwise law abiding citizens is the biggest roadblock to an effective plan.

Bigger picture, this isn't about playing defense.... It's about attacking, and attacking financially where it hurts the biggest terrorist states. Oil. Whether that's devaluing through alternative fuel sources or other methods is up for debate.
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(12-19-2016 03:48 PM)Mike5055 Wrote:  That's awful. I'm in Paris right now and just saw a bunch of North African guys pretty much starting a fit. Definitely did not want to be in the area.

But alas, the religion of peace...

Hey, it's a Christmas miracle! (/sarc)

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(12-20-2016 09:17 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  Germany have created a needle in a haystack situation but despite the shocking situation they've caused, they need to do everything possible to track, trace and deport every migrant without records [And potentially many who have], starting with the most recent arrivals [I.E Past 3 years]. Democratic rights of otherwise law abiding citizens is the biggest roadblock to an effective plan.

Bigger picture, this isn't about playing defense.... It's about attacking, and attacking financially where it hurts the biggest terrorist states. Oil. Whether that's devaluing through alternative fuel sources or other methods is up for debate.

Trump said "take the oil" and everyone laughed at him like it was a stupid idea. I didn't laugh and I don't think they will be laughing for long.
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(12-20-2016 08:18 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Does this mean the captured person is an accomplice of the real terrorist who is still on the run, or that the captured person is entirely innocent?


They actually arrested the guy right afterwards because someone had the wits about him and followed the Pakistani as he jumped out of the truck. He called the cops and they arrested him in the vicinity of the zoo. It was not excellent police work, but just fucking showing up where a citizen directed them to.

The police spokesperson somehow said that investigations continue and the media decided it is a good idea to confuse people by mentioning the Polish driver (who was dead inside) or claiming that they caught the false guy, because it could not have been a blessed refugee.

The media had their fingers crossed that it was a White Nationalist with Nazi tattoo, Trump hat and RooshV-t-shirt and frequent RVF member. And it would have been great if he were a white blond man with blue eyes and a convicted rapist.

But no - it was none those - a criminal Pakistani who already got arrested for sexual assaults and thefts AND STILL GOT ASYLUM GRANTED DESPITE HAVING BEEN ARRESTED AND NEVER SHOWING UP TO THE FUCKING HEARINGS!
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I recall attending Roosh's world tour event in Berlin while a huge gay parade took place in the middle of the day, naked men waiving their genitalia while nearby young children strolled with their parents.

Berlin is the most accepting city.

Germany is the most accepting country, at least concerning refugee policy. They took far more Muslims than anyone.

And this is their reward.

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Christmas market at Dresden today

This will surely solve the problem...

   

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They have to go back. There is no other solution.

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(12-19-2016 06:32 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  

The fact Trump as president elect used the words "civilized world" says a lot, you know Jeb or Hillary would never have responded to a terror attack like this.

Is way to stop the narrative of cultural relativism, that somehow all cultures are equal.
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Automated cars..decrease or increase the likelihood of such attacks?

Who is liable for the OS of those? Manufacturer or software producer? Is the driver or company insurances policy liable if the car OS gets hacked by Ahmed the clock boy?

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(12-20-2016 10:38 AM)Lucky Wrote:  I recall attending Roosh's world tour event in Berlin while a huge gay parade took place in the middle of the day, naked men waiving their genitalia while nearby young children strolled with their parents.

Berlin is the most accepting city.

Germany is the most accepting country, at least concerning refugee policy. They took far more Muslims than anyone.

And this is their reward.

To be honest with you, Dublin is not far behind Berlin in it's collective embrace of the more exhibitionistic elements of gay culture and their willingness to allow leather clad gimps and the like to shake their dildos and strap-ons all over the city centre during the various 'Pride' events that take place here (and there seems to be more with each passing year).
I thankfully missed this year's biggest Gay Pride event here, but last year I was stunned at the open celebration of depravity on display, especially with many young kids and toddlers watching open eyed.
Not only was it sordid, there was also an air of threat in the air, hordes of drunk teens and twentysomethings walking around drunk, draped in rainbow flags, sometimes berating passers-by if they looked at them with anything but a beaming smile.
Awful stuff.
And Dublin city council encourages and indeed funds this dreck.
Ok, sidetrack over, back to the main discussion!
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RE: Terror attack feared in Berlin as truck ploughs through packed Christmas market
Austrian police just prevented a Christmas market terror attack in Salzburg.

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/arti...haben.html

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Quote:25-year-old is said to have planned attack

In Austria, the authorities are investigating a 25-year-old asylum seeker from Morocco. The man is under suspicion of having planned an attack on Christmas or New Year's Eve in Salzburg.

In Austria, the police have taken a terror suspect. The 25-year-old Moroccan was arrested on Monday in a small refugee camp in Fuschl near the German border, and was arrested on Tuesday as the Salzburg prosecutor reported. The asylum seeker is therefore suspected of having planned an attack on Christmas or New Year in Salzburg.

At first the news agency dpa reported that the man was under suspicion of having planned an attack on a Christmas market. Shortly thereafter, the Agency corrected this information.

According to the prosecutor's office, the 25-year-old was determined on the grounds of "suspected involvement in a terrorist organization". The suspect was supposed to have held appropriate talks. The investigation has already been ongoing since November, when the police received "information" about the alleged attack plans.

In the case of the house search in the refugee accommodation, several electronic devices and more than 8000 Euro cash were confiscated. However, the investigators did not find any "materials required directly for the execution of an attack", as the prosecutor informed.

The suspect had come illegally to Austria in autumn 2015 and has now received a negative asylum claim.

Trial of alleged complications in Salzburg

In December 2015 two suspected members of the Jihadist group Islamic State (IS) were arrested in Salzburg. The two men from Algeria and Pakistan wanted to participate according to the findings of the investigators in the attacks in Paris in November last year. They were now handed over to France. Two presumed accomplices, a Moroccan and an Algerian, are to be held in court in Salzburg in February.

During the Islamic attacks in the French capital, 130 people were killed and more than 350 injured in November last year. After the attack on a Berlin Christmas market with twelve dead the security arrangements in Austria were increased on Tuesday.

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