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RE: Inside/Outside Sales Datasheet
A sass company that I know of has a bunch of sales openings in the DC/VA area. They go to a lot of trade shows, so view it as day game/cold approach practice.

https://www.indeed.com/m/viewjob?jk=cd1c...5&dupclk=0

Just tell them you will grind harder than anyone else. Hopefully you’ve done some athletics or something competitive that you can showcase.
(This post was last modified: 01-11-2019 04:20 PM by elite_pimp.)
01-11-2019 04:12 PM
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RE: Inside/Outside Sales Datasheet
I got a job. Pay is standard SDR base + commission (amount has been discussed before). OTE seems extremely achievable, great benefits, I start next month.

Advice for interviewing:

-Apply to every position, you never know
-Think about any prior experience...and relate it to the company
-Really think about ANY sales or public speaking experience, and use it in the interview
-Research the company thoroughly before the first interview, it pays off
-Read EndsExpect's post (and this entire thread)
-If you haven't done phone sales, work on your tonality a bit. Speak clearly, confidently, and with energy, this will go a long way.

I'm excited for what's to come. Here's to making this thread the next oil sands thread Wink Cheers

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01-18-2019 01:47 PM
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RE: Inside/Outside Sales Datasheet
(12-05-2018 09:08 PM)ChicagoFire Wrote:  Totally agree, can't put it any better. +1 I'm not stupid but over the years I could have used my sales skills to put myself into better financial positions. Why keep working at [low paying job] when you can market yourself as a salesman and make even more money?

I'm an introvert too. You just put on a performance but at the end of the day you just want to get away from it all. I will say some people really annoy me when they talk about stupid stuff like how much food they should order....I just cook food bro I don't know how much your fucking family eats. This extends to other introverts too probably.

Just don't let it be a limiting belief where you must be extroverted to sell. Might as well just sit at home and play video games at that point.

(12-05-2018 07:51 PM)Nolimitz Wrote:  Working in a boiler room/sales environment the past couple months has been a big wake up call for me.

Many problems in life can be boiled down to lacking the ability to sell. Not fucking the women you want? Learn to sell. Not making the amount of money you desire? Learn to sell. Your lack a quality group of friends? Learn to sell.

That being said, I do believe sales comes more naturally to some than others. I am naturally an introvert. Having to cold call every day has awakened me to many issues that I was unaware of. Things like tonality, rapport, volume, and pacing are all key aspects of selling (and any interaction for that matter) that I have been completely oblivious to. I am a bit monotone to be quite honest.

Can anyone learn to sell? I believe so. Is it much harder for some than others? Absolutely.

I'm an introvert who's always been fascinated by sales and business. I always had the limiting beliefs that I would never succeed so I never tried, unfortunately. I would like to read some books on it to learn more, even just to get some of the benefits of the sales mentality even if I don't do it as a job. I have never seen myself as a people person, so I went the trades route in life, but I have always longed for a sales life (IE not getting dirty, being less location dependent, still making 100K+).

Side question: How much does the praeto principle (80/20 rule) play into sales? I have talked about sales jobs to guys I know, and it sounds like 20% or less of salesmen making 80% or more of the money, with the bottom 80% just getting by to starving.
01-19-2019 11:42 AM
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RE: Inside/Outside Sales Datasheet
(01-19-2019 11:42 AM)Hypugamy Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 09:08 PM)ChicagoFire Wrote:  Totally agree, can't put it any better. +1 I'm not stupid but over the years I could have used my sales skills to put myself into better financial positions. Why keep working at [low paying job] when you can market yourself as a salesman and make even more money?

I'm an introvert too. You just put on a performance but at the end of the day you just want to get away from it all. I will say some people really annoy me when they talk about stupid stuff like how much food they should order....I just cook food bro I don't know how much your fucking family eats. This extends to other introverts too probably.

Just don't let it be a limiting belief where you must be extroverted to sell. Might as well just sit at home and play video games at that point.

(12-05-2018 07:51 PM)Nolimitz Wrote:  Working in a boiler room/sales environment the past couple months has been a big wake up call for me.

Many problems in life can be boiled down to lacking the ability to sell. Not fucking the women you want? Learn to sell. Not making the amount of money you desire? Learn to sell. Your lack a quality group of friends? Learn to sell.

That being said, I do believe sales comes more naturally to some than others. I am naturally an introvert. Having to cold call every day has awakened me to many issues that I was unaware of. Things like tonality, rapport, volume, and pacing are all key aspects of selling (and any interaction for that matter) that I have been completely oblivious to. I am a bit monotone to be quite honest.

Can anyone learn to sell? I believe so. Is it much harder for some than others? Absolutely.

Side question: How much does the praeto principle (80/20 rule) play into sales? I have talked about sales jobs to guys I know, and it sounds like 20% or less of salesmen making 80% or more of the money, with the bottom 80% just getting by to starving.

Pareto principle is extremely pronounced in lower tier sales: life insurance, real estate, multi-level marketing, mortgages, etc. You have guys making multiple millions but the average guy is lucky to make $50k.

The only sales jobs that you should pursue have a high median income. The two best are enterprise technology and medical device. Anything else is a risk that isn't worth it.
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