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"Femininity" is a lie
Many talk as if being pussy-whipped is something new that came with "feminism". Newsflash: It's not.

I love it how the some men act as if that’s the thing that corrupted those innocent sweethearts (women), and they all turn “feminine and submissive” once they conquer “feminism”. Yeah right!

These are quotes from the fabled "Malleus Maleficarum", the medieval book on witches from 1487. Way, way before “feminism”, guys! Read and weep:

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http://www.malleusmaleficarum.org/part-i-question-vi/
http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/mm/mm01_06a.htm

Malleus Maleficarum Part 1
Question VI
Concerning Witches who copulate with Devils. Why is it that Women are chiefly addicted to Evil superstitions?

Now the wickedness of women is spoken of in Ecclesiasticus xxv: There is no head above the head of a serpent: and there is no wrath above the wrath of a woman. I had rather dwell with a lion and a dragon than to keep house with a wicked woman. And among much which in that place precedes and follows about a wicked woman, he concludes: All wickedness is but little to the wickedness of a woman. Wherefore S. John Chrysostom says on the text, It is not good to marry (S. Matthew xix): What else is woman but a foe to friendship, an unescapable punishment, a necessary evil, a natural temptation, a desirable calamity, a domestic danger, a delectable detriment, an evil of nature, painted with fair colours! Therefore if it be a sin to divorce her when she ought to be kept, it is indeed a necessary torture; for either we commit adultery by divorcing her, or we must endure daily strife. Cicero in his second book of The Rhetorics says: The many lusts of men lead them into one sin, but the lust of women leads them into all sins; for the root of all woman’s vices is avarice. And Seneca says in his Tragedies: A woman either loves or hates; there is no third grade. And the tears of woman are a deception, for they may spring from true grief, or they may be a snare. When a woman thinks alone, she thinks evil.

[…]

But the natural reason is that she is more carnal than a man, as is clear from her many carnal abominations. And it should be noted that there was a defect in the formation of the first woman, since she was formed from a bent rib, that is, a rib of the breast, which is bent as it were in a contrary direction to a man. And since through this defect she is an imperfect animal, she always deceives. For Cato says: When a woman weeps she weaves snares. And again: When a woman weeps, she labours to deceive a man. And this is shown by Samson’s wife, who coaxed him to tell her the riddle he had propounded to the Philistines, and told them the answer, and so deceived him. And it is clear in the case of the first woman that she had little faith; for when the serpent asked why they did not eat of every tree in Paradise, she answered: Of every tree, etc. – lest perchance we die. Thereby she showed that she doubted, and had little in the word of God. Therefore a wicked woman is by her nature quicker to waver in her faith, and consequently quicker to abjure the faith, which is the root of witchcraft.

And as to her other mental quality, that is, her natural will; when she hates someone whom she formerly loved, then she seethes with anger and impatience in her whole soul, just as the tides of the sea are always heaving and boiling. Many authorities allude to this cause. Ecclesiasticus xxv: There is no wrath above the wrath of a woman. And Seneca (Tragedies, VIII): No might of the flames or the swollen winds, no deadly weapon, is so much to be feared as the lust and hatred of a woman who has been divorced from the marriage bed.

This is shown too in the woman who falsely accused Joseph, and caused him to be imprisoned because he would not consent to the crime of adultery with her (Genesis xxx). And truly the most powerful cause which contributes to the increase of witches is the woeful rivalry between married folk and unmarried women and men. This is so even among holy women, so what must it be among the others? For you see in Genesis xxi. how impatient and envious Sarah was of Hagar when she conceived: How jealous Rachel was of Leah because she had no children (Genesis xxx): and Hannah, who was barren, of the fruitful Peninnah (I. Kings i): and how Miriam (Numbers xii) murmured and spoke ill of Moses, and was therefore stricken with leprosy: and how Martha was jealous of Mary Magdalen, because she was busy and Mary was sitting down (S. Luke x). To this point is Ecclesiasticus xxxvii: Neither consult with a woman touching her of whom she is jealous. Meaning that it is useless to consult with her, since there is always jealousy, that is, envy, in a wicked woman. And if women behave thus to each other, how much more will they do so to men.

Valerius Maximus tells how, when Phoroneus, the king of the Greeks, was dying, he said to his brother Leontius that there would have been nothing lacking to him of complete happiness if a wife had always been lacking to him. And when Leontius asked how a wife could stand in the way of happiness, he answered that all married men well knew. And when the philosopher Socrates was asked if one should marry a wife, he answered: If you do not, you are lonely, your family dies out, and a stranger inherits; if you do, you suffer perpetual anxiety, querelous complaints, reproaches concerning the marriage portion, the heavy displeasure of your relations, the garrulousness of a mother-in-law, cuckoldom, and no certain arrival of an heir. This he said as one who knew. For S. Jerome in his Contra Iouinianum says: This Socrates had two wives, whom he endured with much patience, but could not be rid of their contumelies and clamorous vituperations. So one day when they were complaining against him, he went out of the house to escape their plaguing, and sat down before the house; and the women then threw filthy water over him. But the philosopher was not disturbed by this, saying, “I knew the rain would come after the thunder.”

There is also a story of a man whose wife was drowned in a river, who, when he was searching for the body to take it out of the water, walked up the stream. And when he was asked why, since heavy bodies do not rise but fall, he was searching against the current of the river, he answered: “When that woman was alive she always, both in word and deed, went contrary to my commands; therefore I am searching in the contrary direction in case even now she is dead she may preserve her contrary disposition.”

[…]

But as to domination by women, hear what Cicero says in the Paradoxes. Can he be called a free man whose wife governs him, imposes laws on him, orders him, and forbids him to do what he wishes, so that he cannot and dare not deny her anything that she asks?

[...]

S. Jerome, writing of Daniel, tells a story of Laodice, wife of Antiochus king of Syria; how, being jealous lest he should love his other wife, Berenice, more than her, she first caused Berenice and her daughter by Antiochus to be slain, and then poisoned herself. And why? Because she would not be governed, and would follow her own impulse. Therefore, S. John Chrysostom says not without reason: O evil worse than all evil, a wicked woman, whether she be poor or rich. For if she be the wife of a rich man, she does not cease night and day to excite her husband with hot words, to use evil blandishments and violent importunations. And if she have a poor husband she does not cease to stir him also to anger and strife. And if she be a widow, she takes it upon herself everywhere to look down on everybody, and is inflamed to all boldness by the spirit of pride.

If we inquire, we find that nearly all the kingdoms of the world have been overthrown by women. Troy, which was a prosperous kingdom, was, for the rape of one woman, Helen, destroyed, and many thousands of Greeks slain. The kingdom of the Jews suffered much misfortune and destruction through the accursed Jezebel, and her daughter Athaliah, queen of Judah, who caused her son’s sons to be killed, that on their death she might reign herself; yet each of them was slain. The kingdom of the Romans endured much evil through Cleopatra, Queen of Egypt, that worst of women. And so with others. Therefore it is no wonder if the world now suffers through the malice of women.

[…]

And now let us examine the carnal desires of the body itself, whence has arise unconscionable harm to human life. Justly we may say with Cato of Utica: If the world could be rid of women, we should not be without God in our intercourse. For truly, without the wickedness of women, to say nothing of witchcraft, the world would still remain proof against innumerable dangers. Hear what Valerius said to Rufinus: You do not know that woman is the Chimaera, but it is good that you should know it; for that monster was of three forms; its face was that of a radiant and noble lion, it had the filthy belly of a goat, and it was armed with the virulent tail of a viper. And he means that a woman is beautiful to look upon, contaminating to the touch, and deadly to keep.

Wherefore her voice is like the song of the Sirens, who with their sweet melody entice the passers-by and kill them. For they kill them by emptying their purses, consuming their strength, and causing them to forsake God. Again Valerius says to Rufinus: When she speaks it is a delight which flavours the sin; the flower of love is a rose, because under its blossom there are hidden many thorns. See Proverbs v, 3-4: Her mouth is smoother than oil; that is, her speech is afterwards as bitter as absinthium. [Her throat is smoother than oil. But her end is as bitter as wormwood.]

[..]

It is this which is lamented in Ecclesiastes vii, and which the Church even now laments on account of the great multitude of witches. And I have found a woman more bitter than death, who is the hunter’s snare, and her heart is a net, and her hands are bands. He that pleaseth God shall escape from her; but he that is a sinner shall be caught by her.

To conclude. All witchcraft comes from carnal lust, which is in women insatiable. See Proverbs xxx: There are three things that are never satisfied, yea, a fourth thing which says not, It is enough; that is, the mouth of the womb.
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RE: "Femininity" is a lie
TL;DR - The true nature of women has always been the same. Recent developments (technology, feminism, etc) have only made it more transparent.

Solution? Always be learning Game.

If you think you're beyond Game, then you definitely need Game.
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God bless you for the TL;DR - I'll read the longer post when my wits are more about.
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Read a translated version of the Canterbury tales by Chaucer from the same sort or period.

Much of it is graft to read but it's very funny in places and full of 'red pill' understanding of women's nature.

lol there is nothing new under the sun.

Millers tale and wife of bath immediately spring to mind but it's been a while.
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Uses term "Newsflash".

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A woman can be cunning and self-interested (as all are to some extent) whilst still being completely feminine. Indeed the more cunning and self-interested a woman is, the more feminine they will be.

I'm increasingly convinced that the lack of femininity in the west is simply stemming from the wealth of the west itself. They aren't feminine because they don't feel they have to be, because they can be a slovenly pig and their life will still be quite comfortable, and because of the depressing effect high national wealth has on time preferences, and because of the gender migration imbalance that wealth differentials create.

Don't get pissed OP, just accept facts of life and respond accordingly.
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(01-10-2017 06:30 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  I'm increasingly convinced that the lack of femininity in the west is simply stemming from the wealth of the west itself.

Explain Japan then.

Japan has been rich for a very long time, and their women are still very feminine.
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The difference is that they have attached a value to their culture and work to preserve it.

We have not.
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Oh look, a witch hunter! Get the pyre ready and burn all the women he hates because he can not have them!

Seriously though, this is when bitterness meets too much red pill.

There have been manipulative women for as long as there have been weak men. If you wanna quote the Hammer of the Witches, might as well go as far as the Bible. Samson was a champion and a fucking dumbass who let himself be duped by his own fucking woman. Then you have Sarah who submits unconditionally to Abraham even when he strays.

If femininity is a lie, masculinity is also, by that logic. If Adam told his bitch not to eat the fucking apple and obey the damn rule. Feminine women need masculine men to exist, when men are weak then women rebel.

Femininity is pretty damn well and alive when girls clean my house without me asking, sewn me scarfs/clothes for the winter instead of buying the shit, taking care of me when I'm sick, etc.

In contrast, it is certainly dead when the men dress like faggots and prefer to talk about their feelings, and when the nation-state abandon religion and culture for globalism and consumerism.

Instead of burning the unvirtuous women, maybe learn how to keep them in check and bring the best out of them? Or pack up and leave where things are better?

A woman's love and devotion are among the best thing a man can experience in his life, but Im pretty sure those who earn that aint ass deep in bitterness.

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Men have known since the beginning of time that women are controlled by emotions and require firm masculine presence to be disciplined. Feminine energy needs to be directed at loving, caring, and nurturing a man/family/home.

OP is misguided and honestly sounds like 'spergy shit looking for a reason to dislike women and possibly his difficulty dealing with them (speculating here).

Feminism was/is a socio-political movement that led to subsequent generations of men and women being programmed to believe that women (and men) do not have a natural and defined role in society. This was primarily brought on by prolonged prosperity in the West. We reached a point in our society where women did not need men as they were making their own money, buying their own shit, paying their own rent/mortgages, and able to raise children on their own thanks to plentiful government aid and favorable child support and custody regulations.

In current day Western world we see a climate where women do not need to be married, have children, or have a man provide for her. Society has let women run amok while no longer having a proper avenue to direct their feminine energy. Modern young women have been programmed to believe children are gross and burdensome, men are harmful potential rapists that are to be feared, and settling down and raising a family is shameful and willful denial of a fun and exciting life of careerism, consumerism, and pet-ownership.

What we are seeing is a clash of biology and learned behavior.
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(01-11-2017 09:17 AM)killjoy Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 06:30 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  I'm increasingly convinced that the lack of femininity in the west is simply stemming from the wealth of the west itself.

Explain Japan then.

Japan has been rich for a very long time, and their women are still very feminine.

It's a good point, but there are a few differences that are restraining the wealth-induced effect. I'd say the most significant is the immigration limits. The West both has wealth and no immigration limits -- so men pour in. Japan is very restrictive on immigration, so you don't get imbalance effects. Also, just anecdotally, what immigration there is seems more balanced -- I don't think I've ever seen a filipino man there, but I've met many filipino women and sons and daughters of filipino women.

I also don't think a woman can have a good life in Japan unless she is sexually competitive. Go to the red-light districts in Japan and you will see shops which just have walls covered with pictures of women on them. Businessmen in Japan will even go to soaplands as part of business meetings (basically a soapy brothel). They also have a huge porn industry. Some people estimate that 1 in 200 Japanese women have done porn. And look up the discography of a famous Japanese porn star -- really echos the joke "can't go back to mere Penthouse anymore". They commonly have DVD rooms on high streets -- without going to much detail, it's a place where Japanese salarymen go to a booth to 'relieve themselves' with a box of tissues and a DVD. Normal Japanese women have to compete with all those sexual outlets to get attention.

So counterbalancing forces I guess.
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^ Interesting.

Quote: In current day Western world we see a climate where women do not need to be married, have children, or have a man provide for her. Society has let women run amok while no longer having a proper avenue to direct their feminine energy. Modern young women have been programmed to believe children are gross and burdensome, men are harmful potential rapists that are to be feared, and settling down and raising a family is shameful and willful denial of a fun and exciting life of careerism, consumerism, and pet-ownership.

What we are seeing is a clash of biology and learned behavior.

Right on target, General.
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OP This smacks of someone who's never "known" a feminine woman

Yes women are imperfect (as are men). Learning to recognize, understand, embrace, exploit and even enjoy those defects is the difference between being a sexually fulfilled modern man and an incel / MGTOW /frustrated chumpoid

This forum is about being the former

And by the way... "Newsflash": There were woman-hating fags in 1487 as well

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Is OP a virgin?

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Going to reply when I see Papaya Tapper has it nailed, as usual.
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Being cunning and self-interested are feminine qualities. Biology dictates women be socially intelligent and focused on self-preservation (and consequently the preservation of their offspring). Men evolved to be larger, more dominant, driven to succeed, and surprise surprise focused on the preservation of their tribe. Women evolved to operate on opposite sides of the same struggle. They are smaller, more charming, socially intelligent multi-taskers.

Sorry OP, someone sold you the disney fairy-tale and you bought it. You're now experiencing buyers remorse. Don't hate women for their nature, that is silly. Take responsibility for your failures and work to better yourself.
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Tying Dalaran's post to Japan, as I understand, enough top guys there are still masculine enough to keep the women more in check.

As I recall, when a Japanese woman gets married, her employer (usually men) will encourage her to quit, in the classically subtle Japanese way, of course.

That being said, until recently, Japan had the lowest birth rates in the world (now surpassed by Germany, even with immigration). Not sure how feminine (or masculine) that is (how can it be feminine to not want and have kids?)
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(01-11-2017 04:01 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  Going to reply when I see Papaya Tapper has it nailed, as usual.

I believe he prefers the term "tapped".
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