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(05-15-2018 10:07 AM)Saweeep Wrote:  I think you're over reacting.

Britain won't become a militantly left wing country any time soon.

Yes I can't see that happening. But I definitely can see things become more intolerable. Higher crime, deterioration of public services, sense of being in a different country completely.
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(05-20-2018 04:13 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  
(05-15-2018 10:07 AM)Saweeep Wrote:  I think you're over reacting.

Britain won't become a militantly left wing country any time soon.

Yes I can't see that happening. But I definitely can see things become more intolerable. Higher crime, deterioration of public services, sense of being in a different country completely.

I feel like this already.

People say I'm being melodramatic when I contend that "The England I grew up in no longer exists".

I'm not.
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(05-15-2018 10:07 AM)Saweeep Wrote:  I think you're over reacting.

Britain won't become a militantly left wing country any time soon.

Where did I say militant left wing socialist paradise? Where on this entire forum have I ever stated such a thing?

I believe in a slow, creeping decline which we don't notice because its hard to take notice of an inch being taken here and there.

Demographics have made a difference in politics, society, crime, the legal system, the economy and its only just beginning. For me the most accurate look of Britain in the future is what you see in the Children of Men film except without the main story.
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(05-20-2018 04:45 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  
(05-15-2018 10:07 AM)Saweeep Wrote:  I think you're over reacting.

Britain won't become a militantly left wing country any time soon.

Where did I say militant left wing socialist paradise? Where on this entire forum have I ever stated such a thing?

I believe in a slow, creeping decline which we don't notice because its hard to take notice of an inch being taken here and there.

Demographics have made a difference in politics, society, crime, the legal system, the economy and its only just beginning. For me the most accurate look of Britain in the future is what you see in the Children of Men film except without the main story.

You said "hard socialism".

To me, that means militancy as we experienced in the 70s.
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(05-20-2018 04:13 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  
(05-15-2018 10:07 AM)Saweeep Wrote:  I think you're over reacting.

Britain won't become a militantly left wing country any time soon.

Yes I can't see that happening. But I definitely can see things become more intolerable. Higher crime, deterioration of public services, sense of being in a different country completely.

In the major European cities, definitely. And to a lesser extent in the smaller ones. I don't live in a city and I'm a lot happier than I was when I did. For many reasons.

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(05-20-2018 04:45 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  
(05-15-2018 10:07 AM)Saweeep Wrote:  I think you're over reacting.

Britain won't become a militantly left wing country any time soon.

Where did I say militant left wing socialist paradise? Where on this entire forum have I ever stated such a thing?

I believe in a slow, creeping decline which we don't notice because its hard to take notice of an inch being taken here and there.

Demographics have made a difference in politics, society, crime, the legal system, the economy and its only just beginning. For me the most accurate look of Britain in the future is what you see in the Children of Men film except without the main story.

The 2011 riots resembled Children of men. 'Boring Croydon' literally looked like it was Blitzed and you had mobs with machetes controlling the centre.
That was seven years ago, imagine how much bigger it would be if something like that happened now. The police is a lot weaker and shorter now than seven years ago.
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Essentially certain groups have taken power because they are willing to use violence and cause a fuss. Their needs and desires will dominate weaker and quieter groups.

I don't want to necessarily go all MGTOW but I think women play a massive part in what we are seeing now. Speaking to girls in London is akin to walking on egg shells. I offended a normal looking girl the other day for saying how it would be good have a bear or a tiger. She gave me a lecture and became all sensitive; I mean who would want to have a relationship with someone who keeps trying to call you out on being politically incorrect.

I understand that old aged wisdom states that this was probably a shit test and one should never discuss politics when you have a first meeting with someone. But I genuinely get the impression that they see it as their moral duty to correct wrong think and they need to assess your character through your politics.
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(05-20-2018 05:20 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  I don't want to necessarily go all MGTOW but I think women play a massive part in what we are seeing now. Speaking to girls in London is akin to walking on egg shells. I offended a normal looking girl the other day for saying how it would be good have a bear or a tiger. She gave me a lecture and became all sensitive; I mean who would want to have a relationship with someone who keeps trying to call you out on being politically incorrect.

Wow, that genuinely surprised me. Move up north bro, much less of that shit here! Well, it's getting worse as more southerners are moving here! Every time I go to central Manchester, I'm quite shocked at how many non-student southerners there are.

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(05-20-2018 01:59 PM)Teedub Wrote:  
(05-20-2018 05:20 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  I don't want to necessarily go all MGTOW but I think women play a massive part in what we are seeing now. Speaking to girls in London is akin to walking on egg shells. I offended a normal looking girl the other day for saying how it would be good have a bear or a tiger. She gave me a lecture and became all sensitive; I mean who would want to have a relationship with someone who keeps trying to call you out on being politically incorrect.

Wow, that genuinely surprised me. Move up north bro, much less of that shit here! Well, it's getting worse as more southerners are moving here! Every time I go to central Manchester, I'm quite shocked at how many non-student southerners there are.

The problem is that Manchester doesn't deliver to the level of its hype.

It's more boring than Birmingham!
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(05-20-2018 04:57 AM)Saweeep Wrote:  
(05-20-2018 04:45 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  
(05-15-2018 10:07 AM)Saweeep Wrote:  I think you're over reacting.

Britain won't become a militantly left wing country any time soon.

Where did I say militant left wing socialist paradise? Where on this entire forum have I ever stated such a thing?

I believe in a slow, creeping decline which we don't notice because its hard to take notice of an inch being taken here and there.

Demographics have made a difference in politics, society, crime, the legal system, the economy and its only just beginning. For me the most accurate look of Britain in the future is what you see in the Children of Men film except without the main story.

You said "hard socialism".

To me, that means militancy as we experienced in the 70s.

Militancy as in violence? We already have that.

I am on about this;

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britai...KKCN1IL0IO

Quote:LONDON (Reuters) - Britain’s main opposition Labour Party wants to radically transform the economy, forming a Socialist society where “we’re not going to get ripped off any more”, its finance policy chief, John McDonnell, said on Sunday.

With Labour almost neck-and-neck in the polls with the governing Conservatives, who lost their majority in last year’s election, its leader Jeremy Corbyn and others are setting out their stall ahead of a new election not due until 2022.

McDonnell told the BBC that he had been talking to business leaders to offer them clarity on Labour’s policies.

“Some of them you will like and some of them you won’t like, I accept that, but there is nothing up my sleeve,” he said of his message, adding: “You’ll get a fair rate of return but we’re not going to be ripped off any more, simple as that.”

Asked about his entry in the Who’s Who directory of influential people which lists his passion for “generally fomenting the overthrow of capitalism”, he said it was a joke about beer-making.

But he added: “It’s (about) transforming our economy.”

“I don’t think there is (a difference with overthrowing capitalism) ... because I think at the end of the day I want a Socialist society and that means transforming in a way which radically challenges the system as it now is.”

He also said Venezuela, which is reeling from hyperinflation and shortages, was not a Socialist country.

“I think it took a wrong turn when (late leader Hugo) Chavez went, and I think unfortunately since then I don’t think they have been following the Socialist policies that Chavez was developing.”

Imagine this type of person in charge of your finances at the bank.
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(05-20-2018 05:20 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  I don't want to necessarily go all MGTOW but I think women play a massive part in what we are seeing now. Speaking to girls in London is akin to walking on egg shells. I offended a normal looking girl the other day for saying how it would be good have a bear or a tiger. She gave me a lecture and became all sensitive; I mean who would want to have a relationship with someone who keeps trying to call you out on being politically incorrect.

Wow, that genuinely surprised me. Move up north bro, much less of that shit here! Well, it's getting worse as more southerners are moving here! Every time I go to central Manchester, I'm quite shocked at how many non-student southerners there are.

The problem is that Manchester doesn't deliver to the level of its hype.

It's more boring than Birmingham!

Heresy!

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Newcastle's not a bad alternative to the cities mentioned above at all, it's not ideal but for finding women it's arguably the best metropolis in the UK, no guy I've spoken to has complained about the girl situation here. Source: been living here for roughly a year.
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Newcastle is one city in England I've never been to, but would like to go to. Paging Nascimento, who has a bit of a fascination for the place Smile

I've heard Jesmond, or something like that, is the place to be in that city. We'll get an AirbBnB and go on the prowl ha.

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Yes Jesmond is student central and I am a student so I know what it's like. Only problem is if you're an old folk mingling with students is harder. Also, we go home end of May because exam season is over so it's better to head there september/autumn time - everyone goes crazy. Newcastle is one of the only places where English chicks actually look decent, although I prefer the international student crowd cos you can find latinas, French, Spanish you name it.
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Was gonna put this in the Tommy Robinson thread, but I think this is a better place:





Phil, John and Joel all discussing why they got singled out for persecution.

Phil's been building his channel lately and he's become a bit of a target. This is the original video of the police intimidating him:





Phil and his mate aren't real Aryan KKK types. But still, fair game for those that would fight 'racism'.

Watch those vids. Let your blood boil.

However, I was going to let this go. I've had enough for one night. Then I see this fucking shit:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho...62316.html

Manchester attack anniversary: Police off work with PTSD a year after bombing, officer reveals


“People deal with things in different ways – a lot of people have been moved and a lot of people have struggled to come back into work.

“There’s some that haven’t come back since and will probably never come back, people who have left the police.”

The officer, who has himself been diagnosed with complex PTSD, was among the first on the scene of the bombing on 22 May last year, when Isis supporter Salman Abedi detonated a homemade bomb among crowds of Ariana Grande fans leaving a concert at Manchester Arena.


That's right. People do deal with things in different ways. Not least exercising their right to peacefully protest against those they perceive to have done them wrong.

Yet the police don't seem to think that is acceptable for some reason.

So they left the police eh? That's a shame. I hope they get the treatment they deserve and their pensions are all paid up for all the years of service they have provided. I say this without any snark or snide. I hope it all works out well for them, after being so traumatised.

Now, imagine being a mother or father of one of the little ones with their arms and legs blown off, killed, even? What do they get for being traumatised? Honest question.


The officer, who has himself been diagnosed with complex PTSD, was among the first on the scene of the bombing on 22 May last year


So diagnosed with Complex PTSD. Welcome to the club bro. Good to have you. How was that diagnosed then? It couldn't have been from a single event like that, as that is against the very definition of what C-PTSD is. What was your earlier trauma that led to this diagnosis? It's ok if you don't want to share. I'm just suspicious now of anything that comes out of the police's mouths as I have lost confidence in them.

Sure, you will say: "Oh you will be the first people to call us when you get your house robbed or get attacked on the street". Er, no, the police are the last people I would call. The police would not help me. Have not helped me even when there was camera evidence of me nearly being murdered and losing my life. I don't deal with the police anymore. No faith left in them.

So, Complex PTSD eh? I guess that's an official condition now right? Much worse than PTSD itself. Usually only suffered by hostage survivors or children from long-standing abusive upbringings (same thing).

Wow, I never knew the police were so traumatised.

Don't look very traumatised to me the ones left on duty fucking people off just to be able to report on a day meant to remember kids who were killed and maimed for life.

But Complex PTSD you say? I'd really like to know more. You are welcome to join our group. Yeah, it exists.

Phil, John and Joel got treated like absolute shit on this day. By the traumatised police.

"My pension doesn't have anything to do with you"

Yes it does pal, when you decide to skive off work all in the name of being traumatised, and trivialising and diminishing those that really suffer from this condition.

And then you send in the bully boys to shut down a few lads who were just documenting the situation for the rest of us.

You want it both fucking ways.

Well, you won't get it both fucking ways.

You are not the victims here. Stop pretending you are.

And stop letting the real victims whose kids were killed from having a legitimate voice to air their opinion in a peaceful manner.

The British Police are a fucking disgrace.

Stopping those whose children were killed from even holding one minute's silence for them, while protecting antifa shouting verbal abuse at the parents of those that were maimed that day.

Let's have this right.

The British Police are a fucking disgrace.

British Politics eh?

No wonder so many of us don't want to ponder the finer discrepancies of labour/tory.

The British Police are a fucking disgrace and something needs to be done about them.
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Interesting how the news headlines all over the u.k are always about love and ‘light’ whenever they talk about Manchester. Whenever it is Grenfell tower, which was a genuine tragedy. They all come out with the war drums and talk about the ‘anger’ felt.
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(05-21-2018 05:09 PM)Mikestar Wrote:  Yes Jesmond is student central and I am a student so I know what it's like. Only problem is if you're an old folk mingling with students is harder. Also, we go home end of May because exam season is over so it's better to head there september/autumn time - everyone goes crazy. Newcastle is one of the only places where English chicks actually look decent, although I prefer the international student crowd cos you can find latinas, French, Spanish you name it.

Really? I've no doubt the talent is better than Scarborough on a Friday night, but I would have thought that the high male competition and just being in the North would drive down the quality a fair bit. I would think the best quality is at the more upper-middle class Exeter, Durham, Edinburgh sort of places.

Look at the photos where it shows the faces of the victims of the Manchester and Grenfell tragedies. There's your answer re: media coverage
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(05-21-2018 02:02 PM)Mikestar Wrote:  Newcastle's not a bad alternative to the cities mentioned above at all, it's not ideal but for finding women it's arguably the best metropolis in the UK, no guy I've spoken to has complained about the girl situation here. Source: been living here for roughly a year.

(05-21-2018 03:00 PM)Teedub Wrote:  Newcastle is one city in England I've never been to, but would like to go to. Paging Nascimento, who has a bit of a fascination for the place Smile

I've heard Jesmond, or something like that, is the place to be in that city. We'll get an AirbBnB and go on the prowl ha.


Newcastle is a different breed than most towns and cities in the UK. There are a lot of lads with decent physiques and on-point grooming there and the women are plentiful.

A large social scene with little else to do except work, fuck and drink into the early hours.

The centre is very good and appealing when walking around.

The shopping mall in the centre has a shitload of good places to eat and some bars too.
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Sounds great!

Regarding britchard's point... I think anywhere in Britain with a large student population is going to have plenty of fit birds. The students, and the ones who stay and get a job there. With Newcastle, and probably Liverpool - they seem to spend more time on their appearance than girls in other cities (places in Essex are similar, but that style is almost TOO artificial sometimes). I guess home counties v northern cities is like Emma Watson v Cheryl Cole/Michelle Keegan, if you get what I mean. I know there's a massive class divide there, so it's probably somewhat of a moot point. I'm just doing my usual white knighting for the looks of English/British girls against the general consensus of the forum!

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London is good for African girls. Probably the best Looking Somalian/ East African girls In general live there. Nigerian girls decent also if you are into the thickness.
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Yeah Newcastle is a unique place. The look can get boring after a while and you start realising all girls look the same e.g. fake tan, showing tits or in £200 tracksuits which make them look like homeless 90's ravers. Whilst it has a popping nightlife that too can get repetitive and is a hit or miss. However, during the first 3 months living there I was overwhelmed by the lifestyle and especially abundance of girls.

Most of the English girls at uni are from rich backgrounds with suprisingly woven social circles so you might get bitch shields if you're an outsider, however I have integrated before. Many do not get approached well and there is a high competition in looks.. But honestly a lot of the guys game here is weak at the end of the day, I have not seen 1 guy approach a woman in the daytime in Newcastle, but when the alcohol starts flowing guys prowl the streets in drunken gangs. I don't want to detail this thread as it's about politics but the newcastle datasheet is very accurate, I may update it in the future but I don't want to blow my cover.
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(05-23-2018 03:07 PM)Constitution45 Wrote:  London is good for African girls. Probably the best Looking Somalian/ East African girls In general live there. Nigerian girls decent also if you are into the thickness.


I was looking up a couple of African chicks in 5 guys (the workers) when I was last down there and they weren't shy to look right back at the white devil drinking some thicc shake..
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Fuck me, I don't know if this had already been posted but:




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And if you think thats bad ^

try this;

Quote:'Fewer women should face jail' - Justice Secretary David Gauke

https://news.sky.com/story/more-women-to...y-11386673

Quote:In a wide-ranging interview with Sky's Sophy Ridge, David Gauke hints at giving more female offenders non-custodial sentences.

More female criminals will be spared jail under a new strategy to be unveiled by the government.

The Justice Secretary has given his strongest hint yet that an increased number of women will be given non-custodial sentences if convicted of non-violent crimes.

In a wide-ranging interview for Sophy Ridge on Sunday, David Gauke also blasted middle-class drug users for propping up the illegal trade.

The government's delayed strategy on female offenders, due to be published last year, will be released "very shortly", says Mr Gauke.

He said: "I think we do have to be conscious that sometimes there are different issues with women offenders than there are with men.

"A lot of female offenders, for example, are themselves victims of crime, quite a high proportion are victims of domestic abuse themselves… a lot of them are non-violent, a lot of them [have] complex mental health issues we need to address.

"I think there is a very good point in saying that of the 4,000 or so female offenders who are in custody, how many of them can be dealt with through other means?

"Non-custodial sentences are certainly something to look at, more support in the community rather than within prisons is something we have to look at. There will of course still be women who need to be in prison, serious offenders, but I think there is scope to look at that number and I think that number could come down."

More than 80% of women are in prison for non-violent offences and nearly two-thirds are jailed for six months or less. Short sentences are criticised for being long enough to lose housing or custody of children but being too short to provide an opportunity for rehabilitation.

Mr Gauke went on to criticise middle-class drug users who "have to recognise that they are fuelling the industry that is resulting in the knife crimes, that is resulting in the difficulties we have in prison".

He said: "The violent crime we see inside and outside prison is strongly linked to the drugs trade…There is a responsibility for middle-class people who take cocaine at a dinner party, that when they see a story of a 15-year-old being stabbed in Hackney, they should feel a degree of guilt and responsibility."


The Justice Secretary acknowledged the explosion in use of psychoactive substances such as "spice" in prisons.

"There has always been an issue with drugs in prisons but it has deteriorated because of these new substances. To give you an example of how it might be smuggled in, what you would get is something that purports to be a solicitor's letter - which benefits from legal privilege and so on - it's actually not, it's soaked in 'spice', and then it comes in and is smoked.

"So there are challenges in terms of preventing that coming in, but there are things we can do. We are training more sniffer dogs, we're looking at what we can do with scanners in prisons where this is a particular issue, we're training staff further on this, we're making sure there is more intelligence at a central level that can pick these things up, we're increasing the ability of downloading information from mobile phones which are smuggled in."

Re-read the bolded.

The fault of the stabbings, murders, rapes and anything else to do with the drug trade is the fault of the middle class! Laugh

When you have politicians at the helm of the UK its easy to see why things are the way they are. Cause and effect are missing here it seems.
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Another day of suffering under the pernicious influences of British Toryism.

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Quote:With people from ethnic minorities making up just 15 per cent of London cyclists, and women accounting for one in four bike riders in the city, Norman said he may introduce targets to promote diversity.

Comments seem to be 100% negative.

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Quote:Sarah-Jane Marsh, chief executive of Birmingham Women’s & Children’s NHS Trust vowed to boycott all-white interview board panels, which she claimed cause underperformance amongst black and minority ethnic (BAME) job applicants.

The article goes on to list her suspicions of a racist conspiracy. Though Breitbart add that foreign-traind doctors are much more likely to be fired for negligence.
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