I'm Touring The United States! Starting in June, I'm conducting private events in 23 American cities. Click here for full details.

Post Reply 
The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
Author Message
PharaohRa Offline
Chubby Chaser
**

Posts: 537
Joined: Dec 2016
Reputation: 4
Post: #426
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
(06-30-2019 06:06 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Because, and you can apply this this to every form of resistance to globalism you like, when the Left does it then it gets a pass, and when the Right does it then the full weight of every multi-billion dollar state security apparatus comes down on them like a ton of bricks.

But yet the Right still persists. Red-pilled and Right Wing thinking is more persistent than ever. When even soccer moms know that the Mandalay Bay shooting is a false flag event or the average normie has doubts about Israel's sincerity with Iran, things are not as they seem

(06-30-2019 06:06 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Even marching in a protest isn't safe anymore. Charlottesville demonstrated that when white protesters get attacked by black protesters and defend themselves then they'd better hope they lose because otherwise Trump's DOJ is going to put them in jail for 4 years minimum while the MSM will run fawning sympathy pieces for whichever black guy bit off more than he could chew.

Jesus (I know, I am using him as an example) sacrificed himself on the cross because he believed in what he believed. When he did so, the perception was that he was worse than a criminal, but in the long run, his viewpoints won. Andrew Anglin's site is still safe and stronger than ever because he and a crew of dedicated hackers believe in what they believe in and are stronger as a result. Vox Day, Nicholas Fuentes, the /pol posters, the anons and others persist because of belief. They know what they are getting themselves into but choose so because they know what they do is for the greater good. Money to them is not their motivator, belief and faith are. There are individuals who are willing to make sacrifices because they make the choice.

In this line of thought that you have, you want to march for a cause you believe in without harm/risk to yourself. This is the normal viewpoint for many human beings. However, it doesn't work that way because you must be willing to take the risk to get the reward. Most human beings are risk adverse so they will go with the flow but the risktakers who took the risk (going against the narrative) to get the reward (changing the narrative) win by changing the narrative and sacrificing themselves so others know.

(06-30-2019 06:06 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  If you want to make sense of the political landscape of the West then you have to stop thinking you live in an independent Republic (or whatever). If instead you bear witness in the presumption that you live in an Israeli occupied state then suddenly everything becomes crystal clear. It all begins to make sense. Pretend you're a Frenchman in Nazi occupied Paris and the idea of going to a protest for French nationalism suddenly seems like lunacy. Accordingly you will now understand why attending a protest for American nationalism in America means that you're going to get your ass kicked and then you're going to be thrown in jail because someone from an anti-American street brigade stubbed their toe kicking your teeth in.

This environment does not stop patriots and revolutionaries from fighting the good fight. They know the risks and adapt as necessary. Their persistence pays off in the long run. Unlike you, these are not selfish people who do what they do.

(06-30-2019 06:06 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  It will make sense to you immediately that even a world class hacker would be a fool to go up against the Left, because what he's really attacking is the occupation, and those guys have trillion dollar collective budgets and access to resources you cannot imagine. What's more, they don't even need to catch you red-handed or gather evidence. If you suck at it they catch you and you go to jail. If you're good at it then you get black-bagged and get a one way trip to Guantanamo Bay.

Premise your resistance on the assumption that you live in Israeli occupied territory, or you will place yourself in grave danger for no net benefit whatsoever.

Leonard, you, Simeon and the other black pillers do not fully understand human nature and psychology. You view things under your your lens because of how you interpret the world using your experiences rather than seeing the big picture and considering historical events and how human beings react to present stimuli. If every human being had your views, then all of humanity would still be living in absolute slavery under Medieval conditions. Also, I think your impatience for wishing the Collapse to happen/waiting for a savior has warped your sanity and the sanity of Simeon and other black pillers.

Black pillers also seem to fail to understand the following:

1) The whole world can be against you but people are motivated to do things for the greater good of all in spite of the odds
2) People are not always motivated to do things for money/fame/recognition, etc., but they do things because it is right thing to do
3) You can have the largest army in the world/the best spy network/the best connections, etc., but you cannot put out the revolutionary spirit. It is always a matter of when it bursts
4) For every action, there is an opposite reaction. Stop alt-media sites on the regular web? Fine, they will adapt and use decentralized platforms or spread memes out in meatspace.
5) Everyone hates authority and wants to be a rebel
6) Everything always falls apart when the worst happens until it doesn't (bubble mentality)
7) A centralized state (the current Left wing deep state) will struggle to stop a decentralized state (the current Right wing revolutionaries) because a centralized platform is designed to win against another centralized platform. Decentralization has millions and millions of cells and you cannot stop them all. A centralized platform cannot beat this (even if they can control the narrative)
06-30-2019 10:08 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like PharaohRa's post:
Dismal Operator, Lost in Transfiguration
Leonard D Neubache Offline
Innovative Casanova
*******
Gold Member

Posts: 10,880
Joined: Mar 2016
Reputation: 203
Post: #427
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
So how's the struggle for white sharia going then?

Taking the God pill is the antidote to the blackpill, but the haters will accuse you of blackpilling anyway while they wallow in their impotent political misery.

Let me know when you strike a valiant blow against the machine.

The public will judge a man by what he lifts, but those close to him will judge him by what he carries.
(This post was last modified: 06-30-2019 11:30 AM by Leonard D Neubache.)
06-30-2019 11:25 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes Leonard D Neubache's post:
KnjazMihailo
PharaohRa Offline
Chubby Chaser
**

Posts: 537
Joined: Dec 2016
Reputation: 4
Post: #428
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
(06-30-2019 11:25 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  So how's the struggle for white sharia going then?

Taking the God pill is the antidote to the blackpill, but the haters will accuse you of blackpilling anyway while they wallow in their impotent political misery.

Let me know when you strike a valiant blow against the machine.

That rabbit thinking of yours is not going to help you be closer to God. Making change does not mean becoming a public spectacle, but rather focusing on your immediate environment and being a positive influence to yourself and others so they can spread it out. One of the tenements of self-improvement is to overcome apathetic/entropic thinking and focus on what you can do to make things better for yourself and others.

Taking the God pill (or White pill as I like to call it) does not mean that you hide in your hole like a little cowardly rabbit praying for the end/a savior. It means you accept that God is the orderkeeper of the multiverse and you accept that everything is as it is for a reason. You then do your part to rebuild your community to reestablish God's order. For example, you start small by reaching out to those who are similar to you and you build friendships and communities. You then encourage other to do the same. This takes time but the key is that men should encourage others to do the same and hold steadfast and not be tempted by external forces to deviate from the path. Think like a wolf and not like a rabbit. R/K selection theory thinking comes into play here.

Also, revolutions and narrative changes take time and they span across multiple lifetimes. The machine is designed to beat 1 or a few leaders but if everyone is a leader in their own right holding steadfast, the machine falls! For example, Christianity was started by rebel Jews who embraced a new path, did not want to be perceived as cowardly gammas and were willing to make the sacrifices happen to meet their goals. They knew that their efforts would span multiple lifetimes but they were willing to make the sacrifices necessary. They started small and over time, it grew big because they stuck to the path. In the end, Christianity and its principles were adapted and the old hedonistic, degenerate and deviant ways were discarded as trash. Yes, other events happened but Christianity won out because it stuck to God's order and did not deviate from it.

Perhaps if you read my responses more clearly you can understand where I am coming from. Samseau at least has the right mindset and understands the mentality even though some of his approaches are way off base.
06-30-2019 12:06 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like PharaohRa's post:
Syberpunk, MusicForThePiano
Easy_C Offline
International Playboy
******

Posts: 3,848
Joined: Oct 2014
Reputation: 28
Post: #429
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)


07-01-2019 11:10 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
VNvet Offline
Recovering Beta
*

Posts: 234
Joined: Feb 2019
Reputation: 2
Post: #430
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
(06-30-2019 10:08 AM)PharaohRa Wrote:  3) You can have the largest army in the world/the best spy network/the best connections, etc., but you cannot put out the revolutionary spirit. It is always a matter of when it bursts

5) Everyone hates authority and wants to be a rebel

7) A centralized state (the current Left wing deep state) will struggle to stop a decentralized state (the current Right wing revolutionaries) because a centralized platform is designed to win against another centralized platform. Decentralization has millions and millions of cells and you cannot stop them all. A centralized platform cannot beat this (even if they can control the narrative)

3, 5) These premises aren't even true. People don't naturally hate authority, what demographic are you using? Teenagers? How would civilization work if everyone hated authority and always wanted to be a rebel?

7.) Decentralized cells are absolutely terrible for fighting a centralized force in real life. It makes a good movie plot, but it does not work well in reality. There's a reason the elites have been destroying the family unit and communities to create millions of societal atoms.

The main point here is that revolutions are never a bunch of peasant guys, who don't even know their neighbor, getting pissed off and taking over the government. It's always an elite group of people at the top rallying a community of peasants to overthrow their ruling oligarch class or secede from the ruling oligarch class. This is why literally every revolution has had a "For the people..." ethos.
07-02-2019 12:17 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 4 users Like VNvet's post:
Handsome Creepy Eel, Leonard D Neubache, ilostabet, robreke
Easy_C Offline
International Playboy
******

Posts: 3,848
Joined: Oct 2014
Reputation: 28
Post: #431
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
Quote:7.) Decentralized cells are absolutely terrible for fighting a centralized force in real life. It makes a good movie plot, but it does not work well in reality. There's a reason the elites have been destroying the family unit and communities to create millions of societal atoms.

That's completely wrong. My observation from the front lines was that the main reason the Taliban is more effective than US forces is that they are extremely decentralized. What this comes down to is organizational agility: highly centralized organizations are generally unable to react in a timely manner to problems because they rely on lengthy analytical, planning, and approval cycles to implement new courses of action. It's not that decentralized cells are terrible for fighting a centralized force, but their decentralization is the only reason they succeed.


I've personally witnessed it take upwards of a month for the US military to go through the approvals and reviews needed to launch an operation with artillery support against a forested area, removed from any village, where every nearby local leader assured us it was only populated by Taliban and we had suffered casualties.

By contrast the Taliban, due to operating in individual cells where each leader has full autonomy, is able to react to events within a matter of minutes or hours. This means that the only thing the US military does effectively is return fire after they're already being shot at.
(This post was last modified: 07-02-2019 08:32 AM by Easy_C.)
07-02-2019 08:31 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 3 users Like Easy_C's post:
rpg, BBinger, Richard Turpin
Leonard D Neubache Offline
Innovative Casanova
*******
Gold Member

Posts: 10,880
Joined: Mar 2016
Reputation: 203
Post: #432
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
Who's living with electricity and running water, while not contantly living in fear of being shot or bombed?

The "successful" Taliban and the rural folk surrounding them or the "unsuccessful" citizens of the major metropolitan areas?

Who has access to health care and communications? Who isn't likely to get shot in the head by a sniper or hit with a 40mm bofors round from an AC 130 because he had the audacity to carry a rifle in dangerous territory while herding his goats?

The definition of "successful" is tricky. "Has not yet been disbanded" is a pretty low bar to set, particularly when it's not certain that the fight hasn't been brought to a standstill simply to keep those MIC contracts coming in and the goyim warriors in bodybags coming out.

The public will judge a man by what he lifts, but those close to him will judge him by what he carries.
(This post was last modified: 07-02-2019 08:55 AM by Leonard D Neubache.)
07-02-2019 08:48 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes Leonard D Neubache's post:
KnjazMihailo
ilostabet Offline
Chubby Chaser
**

Posts: 472
Joined: Jun 2017
Reputation: 18
Post: #433
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
I was reading through the last few posts and I want to side track a bit because I just see it so often here, just slipped through nicely within the paragraphs as if it's a given and couldn't possibly be part of the basic indoctrination package: the boomer civnat libtard myth that the Christian Middle Ages were a horrible nightmare for the general person - the dark ages (queue french horn ominous tones!).

Classic forum member Quintus Curtius wrote a nice article about the medieval serfs.

Read through the article and tell me how you are somehow freer, more dignified and less taxed under democratic republics than under a feudal lord.

"oh, but there was no social mobility". Do you know anyone who can rise to the oligarchs' circles? Sure, now you can be a second level serf and reap some material benefits of their poisonous plan by becoming a politician, an academic or a famous actor/musician (and probably take it up the butt to be let in, what a joy). Pretty much everyone else, with a little more money here and a little less there, is in the same boat of having no mobility. Is ascending to ruler really the most important thing in life? Do you try to take over the pilot's place in the airplane? The problem is not rulers, is which rulers, and what kind of rule. And in the Middle Ages, the rulers were known, they had a personal relationship with their subjects. Now, you don't even know their names.

It is telling that the worse aspects of the middle ages, the things everyone thinks of as being horrible, were all taken from later sources, not contemporary ones (such as Droit du seigneur or Prima Nocte, as it came to be known). History is written by the victors, and the victors in this case were the luciferian, anti-elitist, anti-God liberals - who proceeded to paint themselves as bringing about 'Enlightenment' and everything that came before as 'dark'.

Quintus is a lot more moderate than myself and more balanced and humble for sure, so he doesn't go all the way - but I must. Call it youthful intellectual incontinence. Maybe it is. But I'm so tired of these misconceptions, that perhaps my zeal in going full on to the other side can be excused - or at least understood:

The truth is we have objectively less rights, less freedoms, less leisure time, less order, less beauty, less charity than the lowliest serf ever did - we also have migrant invasions, fag pride, opioid addiction, family dissolution and all the rest of it. The only measure by which we are objectively better off is in consumer goods and material comfort - and if you haven't realized by now that these items the oligarchs sell you serve more as a distraction from their totalitarian rule over you, to pacify you into retardation, I don't know what to tell you. Besides, most of us spend the majority of our lives working in unnatural conditions to afford these comforts. By all other measures, spiritual, emotional, intellectual, artistic, we are dwarfed but by what our ancestors built and maintained in the middle ages.

For all the anti-left talk on this forum there's a lot of under-the-skin egalitarianism - exemplified by how often the word 'elites' is thrown around to refer to the psychopaths who currently hold power over us. If you really are anti-left, you have to shed those last indoctrination items of the modern egalitarian worldview and realize you were lied to - about everything, and first and foremost about the civilization that preceded our own. Do not be deceived: it's not the same. They replaced it. Replaced every good thing about it with plastic, figurative and literal.

I'll leave you with one of my favorite songs from the period, so 'dark' were these ages that they produced some of the most beautiful music ever imaginable - not complex, not fancy, just beautiful in its simplicity and that lifts your spirit up to God:




«Spring brings cherry blossoms to comfort you, the summer stars, the harvest moon in fall, and the powdered snow in winter. All of these things, and the promise of them, is what makes sake taste so good. If the taste is bad, it comes from you.»

Seijuro Hiko
07-02-2019 11:21 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 12 users Like ilostabet's post:
Leonard D Neubache, kruger41, BBinger, VNvet, MusicForThePiano, aeroektar, Enigma, TigerMandingo, 911, scorpion, BlueMark, Richard Turpin
Easy_C Offline
International Playboy
******

Posts: 3,848
Joined: Oct 2014
Reputation: 28
Post: #434
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
(07-02-2019 08:48 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Who's living with electricity and running water, while not contantly living in fear of being shot or bombed?

Neither. They're all living in fear of being shot or bombed.

Quote:The definition of "successful" is tricky.

"Managed to make the world's most expensive and highly equipped military give up and retreat to a few major fortified outposts" is pretty successful. And that's what a bunch of 90-IQ, illiterate goat herders managed to pull off.
07-02-2019 12:58 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 5 users Like Easy_C's post:
kruger41, Renzy, Leonard D Neubache, KnjazMihailo, Yatagan
MusicForThePiano Offline
Beta Orbiter
*

Posts: 148
Joined: May 2019
Reputation: 3
Post: #435
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
Truthfully no one wants a civil war but the puppeteers. The illegals don't want it, whites don't want it, blacks don't want it, the liberals may want it but will hide and cry during the fighting and the surviving ones will complain ad nauseum when the fighting stops, the fags certainly are no fighting force, so I imagine instead of clear cut racial / religious / cultural lines, it will be the first ever free-for-all in human history. Yes just like a fucking video game multi-player set up, except everyone will turn on everyone. That is the direction it is heading.

The counter to this is to start implementing ideas in peoples minds that will not make them kill someone over a loaf of bread if the stores go empty, to not try to cut off someone's tongue because they say something that offends them, and to not raid neighborhoods to steal random shit because they feel like it.

In the MSM sphere, its all anarcho-tyranny, all a subversion of law and order and values of justice to exonerate criminals and punish law-abiding folk. In reality I can guarantee you that this is not the orwellian presence the media paints it as. If the entire USA was anarcho-tyranny, most of us wouldn't have time to post on this forum, let alone even talk about high and abstract philosophical ideals, we'd be fighting for our very lives.

One idea is permaculture, or taking an interest in growing things, in agriculture. Everyone should be able to grow their own vegetables in their backyard. As a matter of fact, if you doubled the alleged earth's population to 15 billion or more, you could fit every single man woman and child onto a single acre of land in Texas and the rest of the world would be void of humans, completely empty.

To the millions of angry city thugs that survive off of government aid, the only solution for them is to break the chains the government laid on them by becoming their own men. Most of them will not make it if the power goes off within the first few weeks. Many innocent families will perish if this civil war boils to the brim, and I would like to avert it in as many area as possible, if I could make a difference.

Whether stalling the ZWO agenda, or pushing it back, either one causes them to work harder, and the longer they work to push it, the more people wake up, the more bullshit is called out, and the less people lose control of their fates.
07-02-2019 10:38 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 3 users Like MusicForThePiano's post:
Leonard D Neubache, KnjazMihailo, It_is_my_time
Easy_C Offline
International Playboy
******

Posts: 3,848
Joined: Oct 2014
Reputation: 28
Post: #436
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
I don't think they do want a civil war. They know they're completely fucked if that actually happens; their only chance is to continue the slow boil. I wouldn't put it past them to start an external conflict in order to prevent this.
(This post was last modified: 07-03-2019 08:27 AM by Easy_C.)
07-03-2019 08:27 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 4 users Like Easy_C's post:
It_is_my_time, Leonard D Neubache, Handsome Creepy Eel, VNvet
VNvet Offline
Recovering Beta
*

Posts: 234
Joined: Feb 2019
Reputation: 2
Post: #437
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
(07-03-2019 08:27 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  I don't think they do want a civil war. They know they're completely fucked if that actually happens; their only chance is to continue the slow boil. I wouldn't put it past them to start an external conflict in order to prevent this.

I'm not sure an external conflict would fully prevent it. A WWII-scale conflict may push things too far, especially if an Iranian sleeper cell does an EMP attack or something similar.

Not saying this would be a full blown civil war, but larges portions of the US could become ungovernable if the US is in a total war scenario.
(This post was last modified: 07-03-2019 03:12 PM by VNvet.)
07-03-2019 03:11 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Leonard D Neubache Offline
Innovative Casanova
*******
Gold Member

Posts: 10,880
Joined: Mar 2016
Reputation: 203
Post: #438
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
I think it would depend on how brutal and convincing the inevitable false flag attack was that precipitated the whole conflict.

9/11 didn't paint a rosy picture about how easy it is to dupe the public into accepting vast, authoritarian changes to their society and the deaths of thousands of soldiers in a foreign meat grinder.

Increasingly the only point of outreach these days is to inoculate people against government lies so they don't blindly support the next neocon murderfest. Resistance to the Syria bullshit was heartening and so is the current resistance to the push for conflict with Iran. Perhaps no false flag has arrived because the elites know that public awareness has reached critical mass.

The public will judge a man by what he lifts, but those close to him will judge him by what he carries.
(This post was last modified: 07-03-2019 10:51 PM by Leonard D Neubache.)
07-03-2019 10:47 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 4 users Like Leonard D Neubache's post:
Richard Turpin, Handsome Creepy Eel, VNvet, MusicForThePiano
Richard Turpin Offline
Wingman
***

Posts: 723
Joined: Nov 2017
Reputation: 7
Post: #439
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
(07-03-2019 10:47 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I think it would depend on how brutal and convincing the inevitable false flag attack was that precipitated the whole conflict.

9/11 didn't paint a rosy picture about how easy it is to dupe the public into accepting vast, authoritarian changes to their society and the deaths of thousands of soldiers in a foreign meat grinder.

Increasingly the only point of outreach these days is to inoculate people against government lies so they don't blindly support the next neocon murderfest. Resistance to the Syria bullshit was heartening and so is the current resistance to the push for conflict with Iran. Perhaps no false flag has arrived because the elites know that public awareness has reached critical mass.

Yeah, the current (and ever-growing) lack of trust in the media must be a real headache for them. They've relied on it for so long and it's proven so useful time and time again. But now ...? People simply don't believe what they are hearing anymore. How many dead kids do they have to show!?

Predictably, they are doubling-down (you should see the anti-Brexit hysteria in the UK media), but that's not working either. Where do they go from here? Complete stewardship of the media? To the extent where alternative media access gets criminalised? It might be cooking the frog too quick for their liking, but they have to do something, control of the msm is their biggest ace.

‘After you’ve got two eye-witness accounts, following an automobile accident, you begin
To worry about history’ – Tim Allen
(This post was last modified: 07-04-2019 09:05 AM by Richard Turpin.)
07-04-2019 09:01 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 3 users Like Richard Turpin's post:
Leonard D Neubache, VNvet, MusicForThePiano
Easy_C Offline
International Playboy
******

Posts: 3,848
Joined: Oct 2014
Reputation: 28
Post: #440
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
Well...that’s part of the problem. They’ve significantly damaged their ability to justify war.

I know for a FACT that the US had a ground invasion of Syria planned. That didn’t work because they were still desperately trying to gin up support for an invasion when Russia got actively involved. By that point it was too late with them not being ready for World War 3

You can see that now where they’re trying like hell to pull it off with Iran and it’s failing. Only a few boomer idiots seem to believe it from my sample.


Now with Russia there’s a lot more momentum...BUT only Democrats would believe it, and I’ve found most of them back down very quickly from suggesting military action when you ask them what the appropriate US response should be if sanctions fail.


I wouldn’t ever underestimate the power of their propaganda but the American psyche is now almost pathologically distrustful of authority and extremely paranoid across the board, so it’s an uphill battle to say the least to convince anyone to fight in this war.

I even think that given Russia’s overt embrace of Orthodoxy as a social system and strong anti-homo stance would mean that in the event of war the US would see significant defections.
07-04-2019 09:21 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 6 users Like Easy_C's post:
Leonard D Neubache, kruger41, It_is_my_time, Handsome Creepy Eel, VNvet, MusicForThePiano
Leonard D Neubache Offline
Innovative Casanova
*******
Gold Member

Posts: 10,880
Joined: Mar 2016
Reputation: 203
Post: #441
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
We can but hope...

A lot of us noted that back in 2016 that many people who didn't really like Trump as a candidate voted for him anyway simply because they hated the MSM with a passion and were committed to supporting whoever the MSM campaigned against.

For the elite, maintaining narratives in future is going to depend a lot on astro-turfing alternative media that sits just to the left or right of the main narrative in order to simulate there being voices that are at least somewhat dissenting. There's a huge segment of the population that are simply never going to go back to trusting the MSM.

The public will judge a man by what he lifts, but those close to him will judge him by what he carries.
(This post was last modified: 07-04-2019 10:50 AM by Leonard D Neubache.)
07-04-2019 10:49 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 3 users Like Leonard D Neubache's post:
kruger41, beta_plus, Richard Turpin
AWright Offline
Recovering Beta
*

Posts: 210
Joined: Sep 2015
Reputation: 4
Post: #442
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
It's difficult to say what it will be the catalyst but I think the right wing being essentially win another national election post 2024 will wake a lot of people up as to what is happening. Asking what the future holds is similar to asking how the world would look like in 1800 in 1750.
07-04-2019 12:20 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Belgrano Offline
True Player
*****
Gold Member

Posts: 1,772
Joined: Mar 2011
Reputation: 35
Post: #443
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
(07-02-2019 10:38 PM)MusicForThePiano Wrote:  As a matter of fact, if you doubled the alleged earth's population to 15 billion or more, you could fit every single man woman and child onto a single acre of land in Texas and the rest of the world would be void of humans, completely empty.

Did you do the math on that?
07-04-2019 12:47 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 3 users Like Belgrano's post:
Handsome Creepy Eel, ChefAllDay, HermeticAlly
Easy_C Offline
International Playboy
******

Posts: 3,848
Joined: Oct 2014
Reputation: 28
Post: #444
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
(07-04-2019 10:49 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  We can but hope...

A lot of us noted that back in 2016 that many people who didn't really like Trump as a candidate voted for him anyway simply because they hated the MSM with a passion and were committed to supporting whoever the MSM campaigned against.

For the elite, maintaining narratives in future is going to depend a lot on astro-turfing alternative media that sits just to the left or right of the main narrative in order to simulate there being voices that are at least somewhat dissenting. There's a huge segment of the population that are simply never going to go back to trusting the MSM.

For example, a certain "podcaster" who pushes the psychedelic drug agenda so hard that it's become a meme mocking him, repeatedly hosts CIA agents on his show, and has been called out by other members of the community for being a witting CIA asset.
(This post was last modified: 07-05-2019 05:56 PM by Easy_C.)
07-05-2019 05:54 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 6 users Like Easy_C's post:
kruger41, Leonard D Neubache, Handsome Creepy Eel, BBinger, VNvet, MusicForThePiano
Bazzwaldo Offline
Chubby Chaser
**

Posts: 256
Joined: Nov 2014
Reputation: 7
Post: #445
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
(07-04-2019 12:47 PM)Belgrano Wrote:  
(07-02-2019 10:38 PM)MusicForThePiano Wrote:  As a matter of fact, if you doubled the alleged earth's population to 15 billion or more, you could fit every single man woman and child onto a single acre of land in Texas and the rest of the world would be void of humans, completely empty.

Did you do the math on that?

I did a back of the envelope calculation and came up with the following:

Number of complete people you cloud reasonably fit in one square meter =5
Meters in one square mile = 4046.86 meters
People that can reasonably fit in one square mile = 20,234 people

The global population is roughly 7,716,141,983 people (and counting)
Double the population is 15,432,283,966 people
Out by a factor of 762,679.41,
If you considered this as layers and took the average height of Asia, South America and USA (1.6517m) and stacked the worlds population(times 2) in an area of 1 square mile you would have a stack of people 1,250.77km high
In fact if you were to concentrate twice the world’s population in one area, we and the future we’s would need 762,663.38 square miles
That would be all of
Texas (268,820 square miles)
California (163,695 square miles)
New Mexico (121,589 square miles)
Oklahoma (69,899 square miles)
Arizona (113,998 square Miles)
And 52.4% of Louisiana (51,840 square miles)
07-08-2019 01:09 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes Bazzwaldo's post:
Handsome Creepy Eel
The Black Knight Offline
Alpha Male
****

Posts: 1,329
Joined: Aug 2015
Reputation: 83
Post: #446
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
A little back and forth I'm having with someone in the travel forum. Relevant to this thread since it's about the destruction of conservative strongholds by coastal libtards (the original thread is about Tennessee - a strong GOP state that is now a hot place for libtards to move to) and what I think the trigger for USA separation should/could be. Copy/paste below:

Link: https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-28879...pid1998639

***

(07-07-2019 12:08 PM)FullThrottleTX Wrote:  What's a "conservative city".
Most conservatives I know prefer living out in the country with their families - or at the very least, in the burbs. When someone says a "conservative city", I can think of only a handful of places where there is perhaps a strong military presence. For the most part, I wouldn't want to live in any of those places. Even Boise, Idaho is pretty liberal, look at the election results. Look at Utah. Mormons are way more conservative than protestants, but SLC is a rabidly left wing globohomo nightmare. My conservative family is mostly from Tennessee, but they don't go anywhere near Nashville proper.

What you're looking for just doesn't exist.
Knoxville, I've been there years ago... it's a college town with a strong hipster element. It's always leaned left. I don't perceive it to be a place where most people stay after graduating college due to the lack of jobs. Most young people that hang out there smoke a ton of weed.

Some of the most liberal people I know in Dallas are not the Californians that are moving there, but the locals... Nonetheless, even in Dallas, the epicenter of California/NY emigration, we have plenty of conservatives here in the burbs. Doesn't take much to find them.

And just throwing this out there, if you're in the game why would you want to live in a place where most people are settled down and raising families which pretty much describes most Southern cities except New Orleans and Atlanta...

You are right in the sense that in the USA at least, urban areas trend more liberal. Always has been the case during modern history.

However, places like Colorado, Idaho, North Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia that were once solid red/lean red places are now shifting towards purple or even blue now due to mass emigration from one-party libtard failed states like NY and CA. As the states become less red, the checks and balances on the worst tendencies of the liberal cities within red states start evaporating and we start to see cities go Full Libtard with no brakes to stop the madness train.

Eventually, the state goes solid blue and it's virtually impossible to turn the ship around. Between the lost of control at the state level AND the mass influx of outsiders with no respect for the local culture and customs (and no sense about WHY they left their beloved libtard homes), THAT'S when the wheels REALLY start to fly off. It can happen very fast once certain conditions are met.

California and what has occurred there over the last several decades is a great example of what I'm talking about: Always had liberal cities but the overall state populace kept shit in check. But between Reagan's amnesty in the 1980s and the corrupt federal courts blocking of 1994's Proposition 187 (blocked illegals from using public services, voted YES 60 to 40% by Californians!! - crazy to imagine now), the overall state populace lost control to the libtards and the great downfall begun. In short, the inmates took over the insane asylum, people of lesser means and power jumped ship, and everything ultimately up in a unrecoverable death spiral.

If you live in a red state that is seeing a huge influx of libtards, a repeat of California is a very real risk given the historical evidence, the state-to-state emigration data, and the current trends regarding demographics.

Today, Tennesee is very ripe to get the Californication libtard treatment. No income taxes, low property taxes, affordable homes, and it's becoming the hip place like Austin and Texas overall was in the 2000's. And who's got the money and jobs right now that every money grubbing state can't resisit? BIG TECH. Amazon for example just suddenly became the 1st or 2nd largest private employer in Nashville with their announcement of their OPS center there or whatever it was. In the 2000's, Austin was welcoming all the Big Tech/coastal money and NOW, we seriously talk about about when Texas will vote blue in a Presidential election. So ask yourself:

How long before Tennessee scraps its statewide anti-sanctuary for illegals law?

How long before Nashville is covered in shit and the homeless are allowed to run amok?

How long before the cost of living skyrockets because the libtards impose NIMBY building restrictions that prevent market demanded real estate development?

How long before we are talking about Tennessee being a purple state in Presidential elections?

So while no real deal true conservatives cities have largely existed in most of modern day America, there are PLENTY of nice cities (with liberal leaning populaces) in solid conservative states that are now on tracked to be destroyed by the libtards. Personally, I think the best deals in America (especially for single guys) is living in liberal leaning cities in solid conservative states. A lot of people feel that way. Remember when everyone RAVED about Austin in the 2000's? They said: "It's liberal... but it's Texas liberal." Now? Not so much. Too expensive, too many homeless, too crowded, too many libtards, etc. At the same time, you got tards like Beto almost becoming US senators. THAT's a consequence of too many libtards flooding Austin and overall Texas too fast with no controls.

That same story is playing out all over numerous red states right now at various levels. It' generally always ends the same.

Unfortunately, there are zero mechanisms in place in the current USA framework to stop the aforementioned. If I could wave a magic wand and go back in time a bit, I would have quotas on how many registered democrats from NY and CA were allowed to move into certain GOP stronghold states. But... this country now can't even agree on preventing foreign invaders from coming in and stealing from native citizens so it's basically hopeless at this point in the long run.

The last hope now is that some true MAGA super based governor in a very red state will rebel against the union for valid reasons that other states can rally behind. A good example would be to refusing to accept refugees and illegals into their towns by a libtard federal government. And I mean real deal refusal; like blockades and mass deportations by state LE and national guard with no regard for the federal governments preference or opinion.

This is why I say the only way this gets fixed is via USA separation in the end. Sad but that's how it is.
07-08-2019 01:32 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 6 users Like The Black Knight's post:
Renzy, Leonard D Neubache, Handsome Creepy Eel, HermeticAlly, DJ-Matt, Enigma
Leonard D Neubache Offline
Innovative Casanova
*******
Gold Member

Posts: 10,880
Joined: Mar 2016
Reputation: 203
Post: #447
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
Cities have always attracted degenerates but like TBK says, it's a question of the saturation level of degenerates to decent folk. Blue states seem to have mostly tipped that saturation level beyond anything you'd want to live or work in if you had morals that weren't negotiable.

Meanwhile, spreading awareness of what californication will do to red states is something that will push the needle on speeding up the inevitable dissolution of the greater Israeli empire. It pays to remember that none of this will happen legally. It will start with good old fashioned hyper-hostility towards blue-state newcomers and end in large scale boycotts of blue-driven businesses, eventually evolving into places like Starbucks being burned out and un-repentant progressive newcomers being heckled flat out across the state line. You'll know that the brakes on this have really been played out when local and state law officials simply cease investigating it in any meaningful way.

Unfortunately when you have democrat administrations parachuting hundreds of Solmalians into formerly nice, conservative districts then you realise that there's simply no polite way left to deal with the situation.

Getting seriously ugly and illegal is your only option other than complete surrender.

p.s. It should go without saying that the window of opportunity to cement yourself in a future conservative-only location is rapidly closing. These places have always been traditionally polite but also set a high bar for being included in the community on anything but a superficial level.

In time it could be the case that renters coming from blue states simply have an almost impossible time finding landlords that will give them a lease, and as things deteriorate further real estate agents are going to be politely told not to sell to out of state buyers if they want to keep all their teeth.

The public will judge a man by what he lifts, but those close to him will judge him by what he carries.
(This post was last modified: 07-08-2019 12:06 PM by Leonard D Neubache.)
07-08-2019 11:55 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 3 users Like Leonard D Neubache's post:
Handsome Creepy Eel, VNvet, DJ-Matt
Leonard D Neubache Offline
Innovative Casanova
*******
Gold Member

Posts: 10,880
Joined: Mar 2016
Reputation: 203
Post: #448
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
Laugh3

I used to post stuff like this in the JQ thread but now it seems more appropriate to simply post it here.

[Image: hatewhitey.jpg]

The public will judge a man by what he lifts, but those close to him will judge him by what he carries.
07-09-2019 02:20 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like Leonard D Neubache's post:
Handsome Creepy Eel, ilostabet
Dusty Offline
Innovative Casanova
*******
Gold Member

Posts: 7,657
Joined: Jul 2013
Reputation: 79
Post: #449
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
(07-09-2019 02:20 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Laugh3

I used to post stuff like this in the JQ thread but now it seems more appropriate to simply post it here.

[Image: hatewhitey.jpg]

Michelle Goldberg?

Sounds Irish.

Take care of those titties for me.
07-09-2019 09:42 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 3 users Like Dusty's post:
Leonard D Neubache, Monty_Brogan, DJ-Matt
MusicForThePiano Offline
Beta Orbiter
*

Posts: 148
Joined: May 2019
Reputation: 3
Post: #450
RE: The path to Civil War 2 (USA)
Looks like a RL meg griffin with stupid atheist haircut, of course its a special, what else? Michelle, I would leave the race baiting to your male tribe members, your female brain obviously doens't understand the effect of boiling the frog too quickly has on the goyim that could mess up the entire operation! Your elders have worked for centuries on this plan, there is such a thing as kvetching too much.

Americans wouldn't be at each others throats if there wasn't some kind of virus dividing and conquering them.
07-09-2019 05:42 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread: Author Replies: Views: Last Post
  Is South Africa on the path to becoming the next Zimbabwe? RexImperator 729 119,714 06-08-2019 11:31 PM
Last Post: Simeon_Strangelight
  USA Civil Unrest (Esp California) Thread Samseau 549 186,327 11-06-2018 11:09 PM
Last Post: Emancipator
  The GOP Civil War Samseau 118 23,065 01-07-2018 08:13 PM
Last Post: Enoch

Forum Jump:


User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)

Contact Us | RooshV.com | Return to Top | Return to Content | Mobile Version | RSS Syndication